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Saturday, 8th October 2011

Cat-flap, day five

James Forsyth 3:02pm

‘Cat-flap’ is the story that just won’t go away. A report in today’s Guardian claims that the whole story may have been lifted from a speech made by Nigel Farage, the leader of the UK Independence Party. One colleague of May’s tells the paper that "Not only has Ms May been caught out making up stories about the Human Rights Act for cheap laughs, she has been plagiarising her clap lines from the UK Independence party."

In the grand scheme of things, this is hardly the most serious charge. There’s just enough truth to the cat anecdote for May to have some ground to stand on and most Tories, understandably, want to see the Human Right Act scrapped.

But the trouble that May has had over the cat claim does illustrate something about the changing nature of party conferences. With fewer and fewer activists attending, there is less reward to playing the traditional conference game of serving up crowd pleasing lines. I suspect ministers will be a bit more cautious with their rhetoric next year.

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David Lindsay

October 8th, 2011 3:30pm Report this comment

Since David Croft is dead, why is David Cameron holding on to Mrs Theresa Slocombe and her imaginary pussy?

strapworld

October 8th, 2011 3:37pm Report this comment

Memo to Mrs May,

Some sugestions for next year's conference speech, (if you are still in office).

Have you heard the one about Ken Clarke? He ate an hamster!
What about Eric Pickles?
He ate Ken Clarke.
And David Cameron?
He just eats his words.

They should go down well and get you a few headlines.

RKing

October 8th, 2011 3:51pm Report this comment

Jesus!! Is the political scene so dead and dried up that this really makes the headlines???

There has to be something else to talk about!

Dimoto

October 8th, 2011 4:02pm Report this comment

Labour don't have policies, don't really have much interest in politics.

But they love tittle-tattle and the royal hunt for the sleaze.
Working with the Guardian and it's band of civil service informants, that's their only activity really.
Red has just beefed up his tittle-tattle unit, it's a redefinition of what "opposition" means in 2011.

Plenty more of this stuff to come.

And they can always count on other journos with too much time on their hands to re-cycle their drivel.

daniel maris

October 8th, 2011 4:09pm Report this comment

What do you mean "just enough truth". The judge clearly stated in his summing up that the purchase of a cat was evidence of the genuine nature of the relationship and the genuine nature of the relationship provided the defence against deportation under the "family life" provisions of the treaty.

Please - don't go along with the liberal fib on this.

If politicians are expected to read out court judgements, there will be more of their audience asleep than normally is the case. Obviously politicians have a right to caricature on the basis of truth, otherwise there can be no political debate.

Dennis Churchill

October 8th, 2011 4:16pm Report this comment

Why were the extracts from the judgement published by the Daily Mail not posted on Coffee House?
Unless the Mail misquoted the judge May seems to have got it right and Clarke got it wrong.

fergus pickering

October 8th, 2011 4:17pm Report this comment

But what she said was, in essence, TRUE. She didn't make it up. The first judge brought the cat into it and it does illustrate that family life can be absolutely anything. I can't help seeing a strong misogynistic thread here to go with the gay-bashing on Rod's thread. Clarke's always been anti-woman himself since the time he did his best to keep them out of the Oxford Union, but you don't have to follow him down that road. Repeat after me - who was the greatest Prime Minister since the war?

toco

October 8th, 2011 4:29pm Report this comment

No wonder this nation has become a laughing stock!A serious economic crisis beyond anything we have encountered in recent times,Libya,Afghanistan and high youth unemployment to name but four truly major issues yet The Spectator and those sad people providing comments get worked up over a complete non event.Apart from the sad people aforementioned who on earth cares!

Bluebottle

October 8th, 2011 4:56pm Report this comment

Hasn't a fundamental point been missed?

Doesn't the case illustrate the absurdity of the Yuman Rites Industry, when highly paid Yuman Rites lawyers (courtesy of the taxpayer)are actually arguing that the ownership of a bloody cat is a point of such importance that it needs to be brought to the attention of a High Court Judge (or is it Appeal Court-even worse) and that Judge considers that the feline in question is worthy of mention in his judgement?

M'learned and honourable friends practising Yuman Rites remove their common sense when they put their bloody wigs on.

Dennis Churchill

October 8th, 2011 5:02pm Report this comment

daniel maris
October 8th, 2011 4:09pm
The judge is said to have even mentioned the weight Canadian law gives to pets...
None of my posts ,with extracts from the judgement ,were put on the Coffee House blog—strange.

David Lindsay

October 8th, 2011 6:02pm Report this comment

If this Government were not Blairite to the core, or even if it faced the equally Blairite "Opposition" that the media are still throwing a tantrum at the failure of their attempt to appoint, then those media would have screamed into oblivion a Prime Minister who belonged to an organised club dedicated to committing criminal damage and assault, a Chancellor who snorted cocaine while frequenting sadomasochistic prostitutes, a Murdoch-appointed Education Secretary whose one and only policy has sunk without trace and who used to be the hired help of apartheid South Africa, a Health Secretary who wants to abolish the NHS by abolishing the statutory responsibility that is the essence of his own job, a Defence Secretary whose Special Adviser is a foreign agent of a foreign power and who himself uses his position to do dodgy deals with or on behalf of his best mate, and now a Home Secretary who prefaces her made-up stories with, "I'm not making this up". Among many, many, many others.

But nothing could be more Blairite than barefaced lying, brazen cronyism and corruption, always putting American (and Israeli) interests before British ones if the latter are acknowledged to exist at all, wanting to abolish the NHS, close ties to the totalitarian regimes of yesteryear, donkey-daft gimmicks giving expression to an insane hatred of most schools, wholesale dependence on Rupert Murdoch, sexual deviancy, illegal drug use, forcibly rubbing ordinary people's faces in one's own grandeur, and generally being incompetent even at being obnoxious. So this utterly Blairite Government is safe.

Verity

October 8th, 2011 7:11pm Report this comment

Toco 4.29 ... Although I mildly agree with a couple of your points, you write "Britain has become a laughing stock."

A laughing stock among who? Who are these people in other countries keenly seeking out news of Britain and laughing at it?

Not the Americans, who have a vast enough country of their own to worry about. Not the Canadians, ditto. In fact, this would include the whole of North, Central and South America.

OK, the Russians? Ummm ... nyet. The Ozzies and Kiwis? They have their own crises on the other side of the Equator.

The French? The Swedes? The Greeks? The Portuguese? All doubled over with laughter at Britain?

This is one of the stupidest statements that the provincial minded posters on this site make and it always baffles me. Do you honestly really imagine that people in other countries follow the doings of the British Parliament?

Who are these people?

In2minds

October 8th, 2011 7:17pm Report this comment

"I suspect ministers will be a bit more cautious with their rhetoric next year".

All of them, including Clarke?

Baron

October 8th, 2011 7:32pm Report this comment

Bluebottle, sir, you are so right it pains.

Mr L

October 8th, 2011 7:36pm Report this comment

Even if the cat story wasn't literally true, the fact remains that it was appallingly plausible. The Labour Government gave the activist judges and other lawyers (Cherie Blair among them) an opportunity to cock a snook at the public. How does the Human Rights Act benefit ordinary law-abiding citizens?

Yes, thought so.

William Blakes Ghost

October 8th, 2011 7:40pm Report this comment

The changing face of conferences? If politicians are preaching to lobbyists and journalists you may as well call them zombie conventions for all the substance you'll get out of them!

Magnolia

October 8th, 2011 8:17pm Report this comment

The media are picking on this lady because she is a conservative woman.
Imagine if Bossa had got up and said something about a pussy!
Everyone would have fallen about laughing and, if questioned about the authenticity of his comment, he would have just passed it off as artistic licence in order to cheer up the troops and that the principle was right anyway and everyone would have shrugged their shoulders and just smiled.
There is a pro-EU witch hunt out to get Mrs May and I for one hope that she's not for turning.
We need more grey haired cabinet ministers with grown up children because they are the ones who can give the job 100% of their time and wisdom.

Andrew Fletcher

October 8th, 2011 9:59pm Report this comment

May just doesn't seem up to the task

Haunted, needy, weak, desperately looking for applause in the hall

She is frankly embarrassing and will be disappeared in the first reshuffle

daniel maris

October 9th, 2011 1:01am Report this comment

Mr L -

But Teresa May's comments WERE literally true and Philip Woolas (her oounterpart in the previous government) has confirmed that what she has to say about the way judges frustrate attempts to defend our country are true.

What more evidence do you want?

Dennis Churchill

October 9th, 2011 12:33pm Report this comment

daniel maris
October 9th, 2011 1:01am
Yes the extracts from his diary are in the Sunday Mail.
The HRA has just made the judiciary too powerful and is being used by them to impose their political ideology.
A huge problem as they will hide behind “independence of the judiciary” when attempts are made to curb their power.
And it is when as this situation is too exploitable to continue.

TGF UKIP

October 9th, 2011 1:28pm Report this comment

"One colleague of May's tells the paper" with that colleague now fingered by Guido as Huhne. See Guido's story at order-order.com

Dimoto

October 9th, 2011 4:27pm Report this comment

Andrew Fletcher:

Lot of unfounded assumptions there.

May is one of the best qualified ministers to run a big department. She is a poor media performer.

What do you want, a competent minister (in a complex and difficult department), or just another slick, media "star"?

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