Europe bubbles to the surface in PMQs

toco

A clear victory for David Cameron.It is a bit rich for Red Ed to question Cameron on the economy when he has never applied for a job not even as a paperboy.He needs to apply for a job experience position before playing with the grown-ups.

Michael

"Cameron implied that in the next parliament there would be opportunities both to repatriate powers and for a referendum"
He clearly still takes us for fools.

strapworld

On matters EU and a referendum. IF Cameron and his left wing liberal government demand a three line whip to vote against the motion for a referendum I believe that will create a swelling in the membership of parties opposed to the EU. It will also prove to everyone that Cameron dows not believe that the people should have any say whatsoever on the EU.

I do not trust Cameron and also William Hague on the EU. Both have proved to have lied to the people.

I do not expect the motion, if debated, to get a majority. There are too many A listers posing as conservatives on the backbenches. Time for a new party.

Jayu

Fraser, give a little credit to Milband. At least he is asking questions about Fox/Verity. Something both Cameron and yourself failed so miserably to do.

Peter From Maidstone

strapworld, I agree. It is time for a Real Conservative Party.

strapworld

I think conservatives should read and John Wards blog and his expose of Cameron's recent 'untruths' on land! In particular 'England'

The question has to be can we believe anything Cameron says?

Tiberius

Jayu: have you committed a Freudian slip, or is there more to the former defence secretary's resignation than we so far know?

wrinkled weasel

There are no longer many, but the few who resign on matters of principle. I would have thought that the EU issue was one of them. That a Conservative PM is intent on whipping members not to vote in favour of a referendum -which is, after all, a vote about a vote - is beyond my comprehension.

Will there be no member of the government, not one, who will take a stand and vote for what he believes in? Or shall we, as Strapworld and others assert, find that Cameron's Tories are deserted at the next election for a party that will take the will of the people seriously?

PayDirt

This is supposed EU referendum split along national lines, such that Scotland could vote to stay in EU while people of England could decide to opt out, likewise Wales, Cornwall, Brixton...

London Calling

A Freudian slip by Cameron in the House today…”power from Westminster - to Brussels” , he quickly corrected himself, although he was right the first time, the truth finds a way of slipping out on the right occasion…

PayDirt

Sorry I forgot Northern Ireland, perhaps they'd vote to be whatever Scottish majority happened to be.

London Calling

PS…
No bubbles rising to the surface on Europe in the above clip you provided James…or did they go flat?

TrevorsDen

The notion that this is a left wing liberal government is a joke.
Its a Tory LD coalition, but it is no more left wing than Mrs Thatchers first administration.

You cannot vote in out unless you know what 'out' means. This is where the out argument begins to fall apart. The EU will not go away and will still influence us when and if we are ever 'out'.

The biggest bugbear that arouses people, the ECHR, is nothing to do with the EU. We actually wrote it.

Verity

Tiberius - Thanks! First good laugh of the day!

Writeangle

The EU is fatally wounded now with multi-trillion euro debts there is no way of paying back. It always had low growth but huge areas of the EU now have high unemployment and none of the elite have any idea how to fix it because they are by nature politicians and therefore clueless about economics finance risks technology and markets- all of which you need to be excellent in to get high growth.

Hexhamgeezer

Cameron and his fellow Euroloons are utterly terrified of a debate on Europe.

While they've got the msm in their pocket there should be enough avenues available on the www to get a proper airing of the issue.

We can stop those Little Euroloons in Fortress Brussels hampering our trade with the rest of the world for a start and make a start on reducing our permanent trade deficit with the restrictive EU bloc. We can take back VAT policy (and no Tobin or similar tax), trade regulation, employment policy immigration, energy policy, industrial policy, regional policy, agricultural policy (including fisheries) re-orientate it all in the UK's interests and save billions in internal regulation.

So what if we have to comply with EU rules on trade. They will have to abide by ours.

It is striking how even the most ardent Euroloons quickly resort to lies and nebulous concepts when backing that restrictive anti-democratic regime. Or how feeble the known advantages are - Visa free travel, big fkg deal, Peace In Europe (what? without half a million US/UK tanks and soldiers it really would have been the EUSSR).

As someone once said - Bring It On

Russell

I sent my LibDem MP an e-mail explaining my position regarding an EU referendum and expressing my view that MP's who refuse to let the electorate have their say will find themselves jobless at the next general election.
Much to my amazement, my LibDem MP says he will vote for a referendum and supports a renegotiated contract.
Even Camerons seat will not be safe if he whips tories to vote against a referendum, likewise Miliband and Clegg.

Sean O'Hare

@Russel

The fact your Lib Dem MP will vote for the referendum is very interesting. My MP Duncan Hames (Lib Dem Chippenham) tells me he will vote against. It would be great if you could ask your MP t contact mine at clue him up on what demoncracy is all about.

ex-Tory Voter

I emailed my (Conservative) MP re my disquiet at the possible whip. All I've received so far is a standard acknowledgment. Since he only sent me a bland reply which effectively said no, but not in so many words, to my request that he sign the People's Pledge I'm not holding my breath that he won't vote against. This from an MP who professes to be EUrosceptic.