Reports: Osama bin Laden has been 'located'

Commondog

Meanwhile, Mr bin Laden has scarpered and has now secreted himself within the confines of Scunthorpe.

Frank

Why isn't he dead then?

Water

"If they do have substance"...though it will be a miracle if he doesn't escape once more.

James Forsyth

Folks, Sadly if you swear in your comments we can't publish them. So, please keep the language fairly clean.

Max Peasley

No1. Bin Laden died in 2001.

No2. 9-11 was an inside job.

No3. Who benefits from this timely 'story'?

Mike

No1 Max Peasly is a joke.
No2 Face it we have an enemy who wants us dead?
No3 Any democracy benefits off the abolishment of the terrorism threat that we and other countries face in this global war on the Jihad and Muslim Extremists.

openandshutcase

It's the chip on his shoulder what did it!

Paul Pinfield

No word on this story yet on their English site.

Tom

is there a link to this yet?

Water

Mr Forsyth certain posts aren't showing up on Clives blog (and their by no means rude). Do you regulate those as well by chance? My apologies for a tangential question.

Perry

Well c'mon boys, - Tally Ho!

James Forsyth

Water, No Clive does those and I'm only pinch-hitting on these for a colleague. Best, James

Water

No problem thanks James.

Sam Bowman

I take it you aren't referring to Scunthorpe, James!

TrevorH

Mr Forsyth - its a pity you cannot issue the same caution to fantasists.

Water

Absolutley TrevorH too many deluded individuals.

Hysteria

I struggle to believe that OBL offers an existential threat to our way of life - just ignore him.

I am much more concerned with the folks like al Qaradarwi (see previous CH discussion) and those who think he (and people like him) offer no threat at all.

Water

But whose saying they he does pose an existential threat Hysteria! Surley Trevor is having jibe!? As for ignoring OBL that's a bit hard when you think of who he is.

This said you have every right to be concerned about "folks like al Qaradarwi" for it's a bit concerning.

Austin Barry

Hysteria is absolutely correct. Our community-cohesion-at-any-price masters represent more of a long term danger than OBL.

Paul B

Its easy to be cynical, buts lets hope they have located him and pray for the boys and girls sent to either kill him or preferably bring him to trial. He has a lot to answer for.

Water

Barry raises a good point. Though I’ve always been a fan of cohesion (and always will be), in any good relationship all parties concerned need to be familiar with the bounds. With out a doubt the boundaries need to be defined (hence why I’m thankful for forums such as this). For cohesion can happen in a positive or a negative fashion after all and Barry’s disdain would infer the latter.

This said, there are individuals who are undeniably terrible, though the vast majority of Muslims I have come across have been law abiding citizens and very respectful of other people and their cultures/religions.

Ted Tedford

It's all very well being sophisticated and saying 'ignore him, he can't hurt us': but that is effectively what the US government and others spent years doing in the 1990s. Max Peasley's theories notwithstanding, bin Laden won our attention - made it impossible to ignore - with 9/11.

It might not be likely that bin Laden himself will ever establish a Caliphate by force, and in that sense he is not an existential threat to democracy. But however implausible the ends, the means he has chosen to pursue them are *not* ignorable. And there are millions of bin Laden-inspired people prepared to take a pop at it, including British subjects. Iraq might be AQ's best recruiting sergeant - though much evidence suggests the reverse - but the spinelessness of most western liberal governments has also given them cause to believe that their aims might not be so far-fetched. After all, why pursue by suicide bomb and armed insurgency what can be won in the law courts, with the hapless support of our self-censoring media and politicians?

Paul B

Austin does indeed raise an interesting point. If I understand him correctly, a classic example of community cohesion any price imo would be our quite ridiculously air brained Archbishop of Canterbury. Is he more dangerous than Bin Laden? In some way he is. Whilst Bin Laden will plan to literally blow us up, the Archbishop unknowingly seeks to undermines us. The erosion he and his like cause with the constant drip of their ill thought and unreasoned opinions, is without dangerous. They come in the form of a Trojan horse, apparently all reason and enlightenment, but hidden within is great danger-namely (spineless) appeasement.

So who is more dangerous OBL or the ABC, in the final analysis I would have to opt for OBL, especially if he were to obtain WMD, but Austin is right in saying (my term) appeasers do represent a grave danger to our society.

nicodemus31

If the likes of Ratko Mladic are able to evade justice in a country the size of Bosnia Herzegovina, what chance of OBL's apprehension in the Karakoram mountain range?
I'd say this "scoop" is more of a recruiting sergeant for the Republican party in the US elections, which cannot be a bad thing.

Water

Paul B absolutely I agree they can be a danger ‘if limits are not established’. But if limits are correctly established then they are a wonderful thing (for it ultimately adds to over all stability within a country).

Though I have to admit that we do need cohesion within reason but not to the extent that I would encourage Sharia law.

Northern Imbecile

Brilliant!

Track him down... do him in... take out Al Quaeda... Yeah!

Then pull out of Iraq... leave them to it... pull out of Afghanistan... leave them to it.. Yeah!

Let them have their oil... er, hmmm.... Let them sort out their own pipelines.... eh, come on?.... Let the many different cultures push for self determination.... HEY, F*** THAT!

...Sod Osama! We need to bring.. er, Democracy to these places, schools, pop idol- stuff like that- STAY THE COURSE- ALL THE WAY- WHATEVER IT TAKES!!!!

Every one sing from the sheet provided.

:)

Water

"...Sod Osama! We need to bring.. er, Democracy to these places, schools, pop idol- stuff like that- STAY THE COURSE- ALL THE WAY- WHATEVER IT TAKES!!!!" mwahah

Craig.

Who is this Osama Bin Laden? We have enough troubles of our own in South Afica.I would prefer that someone took out Robert Mugabe.

Water

"Who is this Osama Bin Laden?" worrying.

Max Peasley

No4. Elvis Presley did not die and is in fact the real talent behind the 80s hits of Milli Vanilli .

No5. The moon landings were not faked in a San Diego industrial unit, but were actual landings - ON MARS I tell you MARS. ARE YOU ALL IDIOTS!

No6. Oh dear....nurse... it's happened again I'm afraid. I did use the clenching technique, honest.

signed
Commondog

Ted Tedford

Nicodemus31: A good point, made more so by the fact that the law enforcement agencies in BiH are generally pretty effective and not as corrupt as their equivalents in Pakistan.

Ratko Mladic and Radovan Karadzic have not, however, been confined to Bosnia, and have moved between there, Serbia and probably Montenegro as well, and, if rumours are to be believed, one or both have spent time in Russia.

Augustus

Surely, all that American obsession with capturing him and killing him, for him only to receive the Grand Order of Muslim Martyrdom (with 77 virgins to boot) is too good for him? Why not just let him perish or fall down a ravine in the Karakoram mountains?

Frank Beans

This report is completely incorrect and total fiction.

Toby

Oxymoron: US Intelligence

Commondog

Augustus.

If martyrdom gets you 77 virgins, what do you think I could bag for a little recreational shoplifting?
Half a dozen maybe?

Scott

"Why is he not dead yet"

Because then the American Government would have nothing to scare America with.

Trey

OBL is a CIA asset. He is only a "figurehead of terror." The real terrorists are the NEW WORLD ORDER bunch and 9-11 was an inside job. Do some researh people!

Claudius

Um, by the very fact that they have told us where he is means that they don't have a clue surely. If there was any credibility to this claim I would have presumed that they would have had a little look see first before telling the press. Well I know I would.

SouthernGunz

No1. Osama Bin Laden is dead
No2. 9-11 Was An Inside Job
No3. Both The Moon and Mars Have Pyramids on them.
No4. Mars has cities. They are smudged out in Nasa Photo's. Research. Smarten Yourself up. Except the truth. Do not listen to the media or news for the truth.

G

Dead or Alive, Bin Laden is Just a Prop in the War on Terror:

http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2007/10/dead-or-alive-bin-ladens-prop-in-war-on.html

Alex Jones

I dont beleive this for a second. Its a bunch of lies. Bush will probably say that they captured bin laden and killed him but then theyll use some program to edit older videos of bin laden and show us that to make us beleive.

Tim

Trey... Find yourself a good spell check program.

OBL is a CIA asset. He is only a "figurehead of terror." The real terrorists are the NEW WORLD ORDER bunch and 9-11 was an inside job. Do some researh people!

Slammer

Osama has been dead for quite a few years. He is not wanted by the FBI in connection with 9/11. The FBI has never found any proof connecting him with 9/11. He's wanted by the FBI in connection with some embassy bombings. Go to the FBI's website and see if you don't believe me.

Skeptic

Bin Laden is dead. You can't get dialysis in a cave.

Voice of Reason

Bin Laden has been dead for years now. His image is being used as propaganda to continue these illegal wars.

Why don't we see ACTUAL footage fot his guy instead of still images from 10 years in the past with aduio dubbed over it?

Hoping to be a proud American again in the near future.

The American People do not want war with anyone.

BF

I wonder if they will find freezer burn on him.

Night Hawk

Hey Mike:

Max Peasley (whoever he is) is far more astute than your feeble, do as your told, flag-waving, yet unpatriotic consumer mind will ever be.

I hear the circus of mental midgets is hiring and they're looking for a leader. Perhaps you should update your resume, moron.

Dollieday

Yes, Voice of Reason. I estimate he died in early 2002 and was actually killed by al Zawahri who masterminded 9/11. Note how the phoney "new" bin Laden tries to make Palestine the focus of 9/11 when all bin Laden ever wanted was US troops out of Saudi Arabia.(Even al Jazeera recently noticed THAT)
Meanwhile, al Zawahri, who also killed Sadat over Palestine, apparently could not get bin Laden to cover up for him any more ot to do more terrorism (since bin Laden repeatedly denied personal involvement in 9/11) so he killed him in 2002 and built a plastic surgeried substitute to keep al Qaeda chummy with his "Egyptian Jihad" maniacs.

Dollieday

PS - Since the Prophet Mohammed never even went to Egypt ... even the words "Egyptian Jihad" do nothing but make a mockery of language.

Steve-o

The revelation that Bush, Cheney and the Queen of England, among other world leaders, are shape-shifting alien reptiles is much more entertaining than the "Bush brought down the Towers" theory.
I mean, do some research people, it's on the Internet! It must be the troof!

Skulz Fontaine

No Usama bin-Ladin is not! bin-Ladin is in the south of France and has been since prior to 9/11/01. EVERYONE that is ANYONE is in the south of France. Fine wine, exquisite cuisine, plush digs, and it's so close to the finer shops to be found just about anywhere. Hell, anyone that is anyone knows that.

Dave

Dem bones, dem bones, dem DRY bones.

Lamarr

It looks like SouthernGunz has it all figured out.

When they say that they found OBL, they mean that they found his remains, right?! :-)

sharpinchitown

Mike, you are hilariously ignorant. I can't even say anymore because it's really hard to type and see the screen when I'm crying so hard because of your idiocy! LOLOLOL

Hell, the FBI doesn't even list 911 as one of the reasons why Bin Laden is wanted by them.

IF HE WAS INVOLVED IN 911 WHY DOESN'T THE FBI HAVE THAT EVENT LISTED ON HIS MOST WANTED CRIME SHEET?

Dub

Let's hear something nice about Osama, for a change. Recall that this mastermind not only defeated the world's most powerful military on 9/11, but that he timed all the NYC attacks to hit prior to full occupancy, prior to 9:AM. If the early staffers hadn't been told to stay in the buildings and not leave, there'd have been many fewer casualties than the 3,000. Recall the early announcements that the hospitals expected to handle casualties of 50,000, the figure for full occupancy. So Osama is a much more decent guy than rumored. Eh?

wolfy

“Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar.”
- Around 50 B.C., Julius Ceasar.

Some occasionally stumble over the truth but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened...(Winston Churchill)

"...the great masses of the people in the very bottom of their hearts tend to be corrupted rather than consciously and purposely evil...therefore, in view of the primitive simplicity of their minds they more easily fall a victim to a big lie than to a little one..." - Adolf Hitler

“Governments do not govern, but merely control the machinery of government, being themselves controlled by the hidden hand.”
- Benjamin Disraeli, first Prime Minister of England

Guy Rugby

Mike (really GW Bush) you're an idiot. Max Peasley is right. Fox news said so in Dec 2001 FOXNEWS.COM HOME > WORLD > NATIONAL
Report: Bin Laden Already Dead
Wednesday, December 26, 2001 http://www.foxnews.com:80/story/0,2933,41576,00.html
Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader.

"The Coalition troops are engaged in a mad search operation but they would never be able to fulfill their cherished goal of getting Usama alive or dead," the source said.

Bin Laden, according to the source, was suffering from a serious lung complication and succumbed to the disease in mid-December, in the vicinity of the Tora Bora mountains. The source claimed that bin Laden was laid to rest honorably in his last abode and his grave was made as per his Wahabi belief.

About 30 close associates of bin Laden in Al Qaeda, including his most trusted and personal bodyguards, his family members and some "Taliban friends," attended the funeral rites. A volley of bullets was also fired to pay final tribute to the "great leader."

The Taliban source who claims to have seen bin Laden's face before burial said "he looked pale ... but calm, relaxed and confident."

Asked whether bin Laden had any feelings of remorse before death, the source vehemently said "no." Instead, he said, bin Laden was proud that he succeeded in his mission of igniting awareness amongst Muslims about hegemonistic designs and conspiracies of "pagans" against Islam. Bin Laden, he said, held the view that the sacrifice of a few hundred people in Afghanistan was nothing, as those who laid their lives in creating an atmosphere of resistance will be adequately rewarded by Almighty Allah.

When asked where bin Laden was buried, the source said, "I am sure that like other places in Tora Bora, that particular place too must have vanished."

billy

LOL you can't hang him for 9/11!
The FBI has no evds to tie Bin Laden to 9/11 or the Uss cole..
check out the FBI's wanted poster on Bin Laden.Why were the 9/11 (2001) and (2004) Bin Laden tapes fakes? Why no attacks since 9/11? Why did Bush say he wasn't worried about finding Bin Laden?Are you still falling for the BIG LIE?Did you know Bush jr was a movie director in the late 70's? Bin Laden is dead.Died 2001 just after he said he DIDN'T DO 9/11.Keep chasing your tails while Bush robs you blind..BAAAAAAAAK to you pens!
dead men tell no tales..

The Ninth Scribe

OMG! That's Bush for you. If he fails to score OBL as a trophy, he won't have that damned "legacy" he has screwed every country in the world up to get. So, he's talking about blasting the whole mountain range with or without Pakistan's permission? Why am I not surprised!

Josh

Reminds me of that old game "Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?" You fly to Paris and you JUST MISSED her!

This is so ridiculous.

Joe

Like all Boogie Men and things that go bump in the night, W-traitor still needs his little play toy to scare the clueless.