Farage scolds Europe's wrecking crew
Jonathan Jones 12:01pmIn his cover story for last week's Spectator, Fraser described how the Frankfurt Group – which he dubbed 'a new EU hit squad' – has begun imposing it's will on Greece and Italy. In the European Parliament on Wednesday night, Ukip leader Nigel Farage made the same case against them – and quite forecefully, too:
It's now going viral, with over 75,000 views so far.



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Terrible But True
November 18th, 2011 12:18pm Report this commentIt may also prove of interest, given that what scoots around the social media world (esp. twitter) is the only 'true' measure of public interest that some media pay attention to, which out there suddenly decides this may need to be pondered at length before publishing, or needs editting first, or a colourful commentator to put in context for us.
Vulture
November 18th, 2011 12:20pm Report this commentAs Dave Chamberlain goes to Germany to fawn on Frau Frumpel I think Nige fits the Churchill role quite well.
I see that the German finance minister Wolfgang Schaubele has now ordered us to abandon the pound and adopt the Euro.
This is getting serious: the Germans are running amok ( or in Schaubele's case, rolling amok).
How much more of this crap do we have to take?
Russell
November 18th, 2011 12:22pm Report this commentMr Farage, much as I can't stand the man, provides an excellent attack on the unelected overpaid men in Brussels whose wages we pay.
I susoect a large majority of the British public would support an out of EU campaign if they got a chance of seeing and hearing both Farage's and Hannan's speeches, but unfortunately the BBC and Sky will refuse to show anything which 'risks' us getting out of the EU.
Any bets on how many labour/Tory/LibDem MEP's there will be after the next EU elections? Very few hopefully. Perhaps the only way this government will listen to the electorate is if UKIP wipe out all the main parties MEP's.
Jez
November 18th, 2011 12:41pm Report this commentBRAVO!!!
dave sargeant
November 18th, 2011 12:45pm Report this commentVulture - I just hope that David Cameron does not come back with a little piece of paper declaring that economic peace has broken out in our time as It would probably mean capitulation for GB.
If we experience riots because of the problems to come it may be well to remember what took place in Russia in 1917. There had been months of marches for differing causes than a final five days when three hundred years of history was overturned.
The initial Arab spring is now over, in the interim this has brought more persecution for certain groups. IE. Christians and women.
I hope we get a referendum in or out, not sure we will though. Civil war in European states could bring this about but at what cost. German and French intervention needs to be ended right now. David, to coin a phrase. "Your country needs you".
Jonathan Woolf
November 18th, 2011 12:46pm Report this commentAt what point will the Tory backbenchers honour their principles and tell Cameron to stand up to Europe or resign? He'll do anything for a quiet life and his comfy government lifestyle so not as if you'd have a great battle of principle with the man.
Better still, leave the tory party en masse and get properly behind Farage.
Peter Tree, they are not even alowed to be.adwell
November 18th, 2011 12:47pm Report this commentHe gets one point wrong, though. In the Napoleonic democracies (i.e. most of Europe) it is normal for ministers not to be members of parliament. In France, they are not even allowed to be. The point in those countries is for parliament to monitor and approve/reject the actions of ministers. The UK muddies this clear separation of powers be making ordinary MPs into ministers.
Nicholas Hallam
November 18th, 2011 12:50pm Report this commentIt's all right. Mr Korski has spoken to a lot of Italians who are quite happy to see the end of "bunga bunga" politics without anything so unpredictable as an election.
Eric demi-bee
November 18th, 2011 12:50pm Report this commentMr Farage's points are undermined by all this 'German dominated Europe' nonsense.
There are indisputable arguments against the euro and the EU itself, but to imply some sort of intentional German economic takeover of Europe is absurd, inflammatory and unhelpful.
Dennis Churchill
November 18th, 2011 12:51pm Report this commentFarage is very good ,no wonder the Main Stream Media, particularly the most influential broadcast media ,starve him of publicity.
Percy
November 18th, 2011 1:01pm Report this commentI've always viewed Nigel Farage as a proper Tory, unlike the plastic ones we've been lumbered with.
His real problem is that he leads a political party that seems to be mainly made up of rabid swivel-eyed loons. I sat in a train full of them from Victoria to Eastbourne when they were all going down for their party conference. I think most of them would have considored the fact that they had managed to get in the correct part of the train before it split in Haywards Heath as a major personnel achievement.
RocketDog
November 18th, 2011 1:05pm Report this commentMaggie
Same old argument
Dissident from groupthink 'consensus' on anything = mad or racist
I should take the time to read Peter Oborne's pamphlet 'Guilty Men' (and women ....)
Greenslime
November 18th, 2011 1:06pm Report this comment@ Maggie
Your comments re Farage are so tribal I worry that you braincell may die of loneliness. I don't know him, although I did meet him once and him seemed a nice enough human being. He believes strongly that the UK should rule itself. Personally I would ask, what is wrong with that? Whether you agree with him or not, he is entitled to hold that view and it is not rascist to do so. Germans (as are all the other countries in the EU - and as they are from each other) do things differently from us - I have lived there, it is a great country and I love a lot of their customs and national quirks but not all. Farage will know this because his wife is German.
Branding someone a rascist just because they have a different view from you about foreigners is just such crap! Have a little think before you start attaching labels to people just because they say something that you disagree with - otherwise, they might just stick one on you saying 'bigot' or 'dickhead'. You intolerant twat!
Hexhamgeezer
November 18th, 2011 1:06pm Report this commentLucid and passionate, straight from the head and the heart. I would pay good money to see him, Hannan, and davennick in a televised debate. (Hannan without being 'whipped' o'course)
Tony
November 18th, 2011 1:24pm Report this commentMr Farage is actually speaking the truth but as we can see its too shocking to comprehend in this society that people seem to deny it.
What is worse is that as you can see the eurocrats are in another world; oblivious to the suffering in Europe under their hand. Mr Farage is one of the only politicians there and in the UK that had a normal job before becoming a politician.
Lastly the issue on Germany; again people deny it because it would be too shocking to comprehend; its happening. The Germans because of their economic stature can tell people what to do. Angela Merkel didn't want the referendum in Greece so the Eurocrats had him removed and like in Italy, made sure a eurocrat was in charge.
This is the beggining of the end and if we do not act now our futures and that of our children will be enslaved in austerity and euro blue tape.
RocketDog
November 18th, 2011 1:29pm Report this commentPercy
Your comment about UKIP members being generally the sort of people unable to tie their own shoe laces may be inferred of the political class in general
However, the point about UKIP is that it is now attracting support from people who are exercised about low standards in public life, as evidenced by our current political class and their collusion with the EU
My local UKIP candidate is a retired military officer and barrister. I saw him go through a local planning committee like Farage went through the EU bureaucrats in the above clip. My local Conservative councillor thinks that Europe is a good thing. He would, because he is a fat surveyor who wants to get on in life. Good eye for the trough. I know which one I will be voting for
Mary C
November 18th, 2011 1:36pm Report this commentOh dear, I'm quite ashamed to be British when I see an arrogant, rude, ignorant fool like Farage (farago is more appropriate). The war ended 66 years ago - just get over it and move on. Germany is not an enemy. BTW I lost an uncle in the war and another uncle and my father both spent 6 years in the armed forces in the Second World War - they were both strongly pro European because they saw it as a way to avoid future wars.
Holly ......
November 18th, 2011 1:39pm Report this commentFarage can think the UK should rule itself as long as he wishes, but until UKIP does a lot better on their election results,
yesterday's results being no different,
despite all the blathering, he's howling at the moon.
If only the electorate would see the error of their ways and vote UKIP, we could have the longed for 'IN' 'OUT' referendum, we are told umpteen times a week, we are all gagging for.
The votes cast by the UK voters DOES NOT tally with the 'We demand a referendum NOW!'
brigade.
We quite happily continue to do the same over & over again in the vain hope the leaders of the three main paries will change
and, then cry with woe when we get the same refusal......OR
Maybe we don't really want any real change,
or Farage or UKIP come to that?
I honestly DO watch the results for UKIP & until they improve massively us Lab/Lib/Con
'sheep' will not jump on our own accord.
wrinkled weasel
November 18th, 2011 1:40pm Report this commentMary C. You will eat your words when the new Enabling Act is ratified.
Read your history. Hitler did not start by gassing Jews.
Paul Hughes
November 18th, 2011 1:44pm Report this commentThe gang of four couldn't even look at him. Bravo Mr Farage! I'll renew my membership tonight.
Verity
November 18th, 2011 2:02pm Report this commentMaggie - You would appear to be someone with a fairly inadequate IQ and I don't want to be cruel, but I would be most obliged if you would quote one ... that is one single one ... piece of proof that Nigel is a racist. (Not that I think being a racist is all it's cracked down to be, but I am baffled that you should ascribe this characteristic to him.)
Enlighten me please, on the workings of your mind that motivated you to so dub Nigel, who, I suspect, having a high intelligence himself, would judge people on their intelligence, ability to grasp a point and ability to act rationally, rather than their race.
Please give one instance of this hero's "racism" and oblige.
(You didn't add the saving clause "in my opinion" but stated it as fact, which could leave you vulnerable to legal issues.)
Do have someone responsible check your posts before you press Send.
Verity
November 18th, 2011 2:09pm Report this commentJonathan Woolf - Re Dave, "He'll do anything for a quiet life" ... I think you have tragically misunderstood our prime ministerial hen's arse.
He doesn't want a quiet life. He wants the bustle and self-importance and major money (in a hard currency, so pounds, US dollars, ren bin mi) of being admitted to the top table in Brussels.
alexsandr
November 18th, 2011 2:10pm Report this commentSir Humphrey: Minister, Britain has had the same foreign policy objective for at least the last five hundred years: to create a disunited Europe. In that cause we have fought with the Dutch against the Spanish , with the Germans against the French , with the French and Italians against the Germans , and with the French against the Germans and Italians . Divide and rule, you see. Why should we change now, when it's worked so well?
Hacker: That's all ancient history, surely?
Sir Humphrey: Yes, and current policy. We had to break the whole thing [the EEC ] up, so we had to get inside. We tried to break it up from the outside, but that wouldn't work. Now that we're inside we can make a complete pig's breakfast of the whole thing: set the Germans against the French, the French against the Italians, the Italians against the Dutch. The Foreign Office is terribly pleased; it's just like old times.
TomTom
November 18th, 2011 2:16pm Report this comment"As Dave Chamberlain goes to Germany to fawn on Frau Frumpel I think Nige fits the Churchill role quite well."
You clearly have not read Churchill's adulatory letters to Mussolini then ?
Verity
November 18th, 2011 2:17pm Report this commentMary C - Did all the ignorant attention seekers who didn't even know what they were protesting, and crapped and peed in the aisles when they "occupied" St Paul's Cathedral, make you "ashamed to be British", or is it just the acute, articulate, highly intelligent patriot Mr Farage?
Pot Head
November 18th, 2011 2:18pm Report this commentOur unelected House of Lords & Head of State have more impact on my life than a few unelected officials in the EU.
Verity
November 18th, 2011 2:20pm Report this commentMary C - Who sent you?
Halcyondaze
November 18th, 2011 2:23pm Report this commentNigel Farage deserves ALL our support. He's been villified by all the main "snouts in the trough" parties - but he tells it like it is and he just doesn't give up. This is clearly a man or principle, patriotism and backbone - three qualities sadly lacking in the Tory party and non-existent in Labour or the Lib Dums. For heaven's sake let's send a message to these smug people! We're sick to death of seeing our country dismantled by politicians who are utterly contemptuous of the electorate they're supposed to serve. Vote Farage!
Top Dog
November 18th, 2011 2:24pm Report this commentFarage has shot himself in the foot here and messed up a good opportunuity for his cause.
Rocket Dog and Greenslime:
I have no idea of Maggie's views but I can tell you mine: I'm as Eurosceptic as you like. And I've quite liked the idea of UKIP as the Conscience of the Conservative Party that's been floating round - apart from the euro-issue, in standing on manifestoes which actually believe in ideas like sound money, libertarian free market principles and a sense of tradition.
Maggie, whatever her views, is spot on that Farage should have used this speech to praise Germany at the expense of the socialistic practices of southern Europe - indeed the UK. Where I disagree with her is that I don't think he's a racist obsessed with the idea of the Fourth Reich. He just sounds like it here.
Cheap grandstanding, Farage. Silly boy.
Peter From Maidstone
November 18th, 2011 2:35pm Report this commentTop Dog, you are clearly not a Eurosceptic.
TrevorsDen
November 18th, 2011 2:35pm Report this commentRocket Dog - then you had better get prepared for another labour government.
Schaubele has not ordered us to do anything and he cannot. Persisting in fantasies is no solution.
Farage may well say what right has anyone to interfere with say Greece. But Greece signed its way into a monetary union and thus signed away its sovereignty. The Euro was a daft idea imposed by daft people on a bunch of people who were daft to accept it.
The trouble with people like German finance ministers is that they talk about centralising fiscal government but they themselves refuse to pay for the consequences of their own folly.
Germany seeks to impose austerity on everyone except Germany. Germany benefited from the Euro and now Germany should pay up for the troubles of this monetary union.
Duyfken
November 18th, 2011 2:37pm Report this commentI should like to couple my approval of our Nige's plain-speaking with pleasure to find Verity back in good form.
Helen Jasper
November 18th, 2011 2:47pm Report this commentEvery word Nigel said is exactly what every Right minded Person in Britain thinks, so how long will it take before it's shown on the BBC, why hav'nt they responded to such a Spectacular Debate.
Jon Stack
November 18th, 2011 2:54pm Report this commentHe's doing us a great service by being so blunt and confrontational. Thanks to the pro euro interest of most of our media (hang heads in shame for that, BBC) we would never get to see anything in the European parliament if it weren't for Farage's mischievous bombast and Hannan's overtly High English eloquence. True to the spirit of EU 'democracy', the parliament Is, however, just a very expensive talking shop.
Dennis Churchill
November 18th, 2011 3:02pm Report this commentalexsandr
November 18th, 2011 2:10pm
An element of truth but Sir Humphrey works for the Anglo-American department rather than the British.
Top Dog
November 18th, 2011 3:03pm Report this commentDear Peter,
I'd have us out first thing tomorrow morning. I'd do it first and ask questions later. That Eurosceptic enough for you?
But I'm not a xenophobe. And as such, if Germany manages her economy better than us, I say - well done. I would like to drag us up, not Germany down.
Now Peter, are you a Eurosceptic or a xenophobe?
Vulture
November 18th, 2011 3:03pm Report this comment@ Tom Tom:
I am getting a little weary with your self appointed role as an expert on Germany. Its all you ever post about and you are becoming a bit of a bore.
FYI : I spent seven years living and working in Germany and Austria, speak the language, and am a historian specialising in affairs Teutonic.
I am well aware of Churchill's benign attitude towards Italy and Mussolini. But we are talking about Germany.
Since the downfall of Rome Italy never was nor ever could be a threat to Europe and freedom. Germany was and is.
To quote the great man on Germany: 'The Germans...always at your feet or at your throat'. They have been on the ground since 1945. They are at our throats now.
RocketDog
November 18th, 2011 3:08pm Report this commentTop Dog
The basis of your (and Maggie's)hypothesis is that Germany is virtuous while the Southern states aren't
I would beg to differ. I believe that Germany is in the position that it currently occupies for a number of reasons, not least amongst them being collusion with France against the interests of the UK
Robin
November 18th, 2011 3:11pm Report this commentI think Even the docile electorate are waking up to whats happening to their wages,savings,jobs by Quantative easing to Strengthen the Overvalued @toilet currency'uro. UKIP right on Single currency,right on Mass immigration,right on decimation of Fishing,Farming,Manufacturing eg thrales taking QE2" refit order from britain, recent siemen's getting London Underground order from bombadier,shameful behaviour by gorgon Osbourne,as shameful as New liebour;s betrayal of rover workers' in april 2005.
Mary c*** you should read a book NATO has kept peace in Europe since 1949; EU caused war in 1995 Croatia,when Kohl recognised his wartime allies,yes dont mention the war or facts in your case, UKIP is the Wave of the Future,not Overpaid,sclerotic lib-lab-con Political Class!!
Peter ohagan
November 18th, 2011 3:15pm Report this commentAbout time someone had balls to tell it how it is the Germans tried twice before to take over Europe and we all know what happend their
Top Dog
November 18th, 2011 3:38pm Report this commentRocket Dog,
Unravelling and explaining economic performance is pretty challenging in this format, but I would say, as a snapshot, that Germany's ecomonic strength is more than anything else down to a culture of excellence - one might also say elitism - from school through to university, technical edcucation and business. This tends to create a postive feedback there is a climate of capital reinvestment rather than spending. (See Correlli Barnett's books.)
They have, of course, done very well out of the Euro, which has had the effect of keeping their currency artificially low. But this, I would argue, is secondary to what has been going on in their real economy.
Germany has of course acted in her own interests. More fool us if we have colluded in it. I congratulate them but want us to raise our game.
lescam
November 18th, 2011 3:39pm Report this commentI enjoyed watching this clip, because it was good to see Farage, who I admire, speaking his mind, WITHOUT BEING INTERRUPTED, by some Leftie BBC presenter, after every other sentence. When do we ever get to hear sound common sense like this, uninterrupted every few seconds? Well said, Nigel, and good on you. Wish Dave "Big Society" Cameron had a quarter of your patriotism and commitment.
Verity
November 18th, 2011 3:40pm Report this commentDuyfken - Thank you kindly. But I never went away. My posts were suppressed. Others have been observing the same phenemenon with their own posts.
Barbara
November 18th, 2011 3:45pm Report this commentGreat stuff - and so is his book, 'Fighting Bull'.
What is so wrong with wanting to govern ourselves? We did it for long enough.
The Old Man
November 18th, 2011 3:45pm Report this commentSadly, too many "Champagne Socialist" Blair supporters are now holding high positions in our media, which is stopping Farage get the air-time he deserves.
Although many will object to his forthright manner, there is no question that many of his complaints over many years have been well-based. Moreover, too many of his observations, which I must add, came at a time before Europe was in a mess, are now coming to fruition.
I do not agree with all of Nigel Farage's comments, nor do I vote UKIP, But there is no question, he has been a lone supporter of the UK and a champion of democracy in Europe for well over a decade.
Countries should leave the Euro and the EU, individual peoples should be made responsible to solve their own problems in their own way...and if we can help we should...But as a Sovereign nation, free of foreign laws and dictates.
fergus pickering
November 18th, 2011 4:00pm Report this commentI'm a xenophobe. I think these foreigners, particularly those contiguous to the river Rhine, WANT WATCHING.
PayDirt
November 18th, 2011 4:02pm Report this commentGood Lord, this Farage chap seems to caused much shit to fly on these pages. Myself I haven't seen the clip, can't really be bothered, does he say anything new or what I may not guess?
Verity
November 18th, 2011 4:24pm Report this commentPay Dirt - "Myself I haven't seen the clip, can't really be bothered, does he say anything new or what I may not guess?"
You bothered to tap out these words and post them why?
Boudicca
November 18th, 2011 4:32pm Report this commentMaggie
November 18th, 2011 12:
My opinion of Nigel Farage is so low I’m not inclined to waste my time watching or listening to him....
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Yours is hardly an opinion worth reading then is it.
ex-Tory Voter
November 18th, 2011 4:38pm Report this commentWay to go, Nige! Tell it like it is! It's noticeable that they were squirming as the truth hit home. As for Maggie above, how closed-minded and blinkered is that attitude? There's none so blind as will not see. Mary C - I'm ashamed to be British (actually, I'm not British, I'm English) when I see how a once proud country has been reduced to such poor standards by importing dross and dumbing down education. I've met Nigel Farage; he's personable and talks sense. He is a true conservative, unlike the Heir to Blare (sic).
Boudicca
November 18th, 2011 4:40pm Report this commentIt's just as well we have Nigel Farage to speak up for the UK and democracy, because the Chamberlain we have in No.10 certainly won't do it.
Over 100,000 hits now and still rising.
Vote UKIP to get our country back.
Adrianne
November 18th, 2011 4:50pm Report this commentPot Head - obviously you live up to your name or else you would realise that the unelected House of Lords and Head of State have absolutely no effect on your life, but the decisions of the (unelected) EU Commissioners impact on every detail of your daily life. Ever stop to think about light bulbs, health foods, Working Time, Human Rights, weedkillers, orange juice, bottled water, abbattoirs, insecticides? These are but a few out of the many things which have been changed in accordance with directives from the EU.
I wouldn't think HM has interfered with your personal life in any way whatsoever.
However now, thanks to the EU I can no longer buy pork chops with kidney attached, sodium chlorate for the garden, good old fashioned light bulbs I can actually see by, just to give you a flavour of why so many of us are sick to the back teeth with being dictated to by the EU.
TrevorsDen
November 18th, 2011 4:51pm Report this commentThis blog like many others is only interested in generating foot traffic and as far as advertising revenue goes a lunatic foot trafficker counts as much as a sane one. More so as they will continually return to the smell of their own mess. The Speccy even has a holocaust denier rambling on a few threads back.
But for whatever reason you will not get sane debate. Just pathetic invective - and really the Chamberlain wing collar letter and Munich toss is all a bit overdone. But then if you have no argument whats left.
Rocket Dog
November 18th, 2011 5:12pm Report this commentTrevors Den
Yes. That is what the fat conservative candidate said
Top Dog
Agreed on most points. However, you forgot to mention their protectionist attitude towards their own industries and the predatory practices that this last allows them to visit on the industries of others
PayDirt
November 18th, 2011 5:13pm Report this commentVerity, you answered my question, thanks.
Frank P
November 18th, 2011 5:16pm Report this comment"But then if you have no argument - what's left?"
Probably your comment of 4.51pm, Trev. As for foxes smelling their own holes - you keep coming back, sunshine. So can't you find a better one?
Frank P
November 18th, 2011 5:28pm Report this commentMary C.
We can't 'avoid future wars', can we? That's what they are - future wars! What we must do is to strive to make sure that we are prepared for them and, more importantly, strive to win them. That not only applies to gunpowdery/nukey ones but trade ones, too. Get your head from under your apron, mother Mary. Cameron makes Chamberlain appear positively bellicose by comparison.
disenfranchised
November 18th, 2011 6:04pm Report this comment@ex-ToryVoter....
maggie and mary c. what can you say? girls will be girls!
they hate any sort of conflict, or dare i say, aggression, even if it's in the form of nigel farage forcefully pointing out to our EU tormentors that they are enemies of democracy. i speak euphemistically, of course, as i wouldn't want to upset the sweet things even more.
but we need, desperately need, to face up to the fact that hard times need hard men, and not the namby-pamby, fully-feminised twerps we have "running" the three "main" parties.
nigel farage for PM. i'll say it again. nigel farage for PM.
the country needs to get used to reading and hearing that, over and over, and over, again.........
he's our only salvation.....
disenfranchised
November 18th, 2011 6:10pm Report this commentand thankyou for this excellent video, jonathan jones. you and nigel have made my day.....
Ghengis
November 18th, 2011 6:40pm Report this commentThere is no doubt that a speech from Mr Farage sorts those that have lost the plot from those that hav'nt.
Noa
November 18th, 2011 6:45pm Report this commentHear hear Vulture and Boudicca
Let us put the lie to the false smear of rascism against Nigel Farage and UKIP here and now:
*ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTmcMrUohzI
Verity
November 18th, 2011 6:48pm Report this commentFrank P 5:28 pm. - One of your best!
Paydirt - How old are you, dear? Do you feel sly and clever?
A true soldier of the Left. All innuendo, mud-slinging, infantile essays at sarcasm, and no substance. Or, as they say in Texas, all hat and no cattle.
Barbara
November 18th, 2011 6:50pm Report this commentAbolutely wonderful, an Englishman with guts to stand up and speak for freedom and democracy. I just hope the British people give this man the chance he deserves to walk into parliament here and wake all of them up. Learn them all how to speak honestly, for us the people, and for the UK. He is a reincarnation of Churchill, and how we need him, cometh the hour cometh the man! He's here folks, just give him your support.
RocketDog
November 18th, 2011 7:06pm Report this commentTrevors Den
That is what the fat conservative said
Top Dog
You forgot to mention the protectionism that forms the bedrock of their predatory practices. Otherwise agreed
Sacre Bleu
November 18th, 2011 7:30pm Report this commentAdrianne, Slight diversion from the main theme but there is no problem in buying sodium chlorate in 2.5kg tubs where I am; 40 minutes from Toulouse. If the French don't like a regulation then they ignore it. I think it disappeared off the shelf very briefly 2 or 3 years ago but it was back on the shelf very quickly so go kick somebody.
Could have something to do with making bombs perhaps?
Edward McLaughlin
November 18th, 2011 7:34pm Report this commentBravo Mr Farage.
The sight of these muppets writhing in their seats is worth paying for.
When they start rifling through their papers with such assiduous nonchalance, you know the old sphincter is set to puckering.
They don't like it uppem.
John David Barnett
November 18th, 2011 8:30pm Report this commentThere's a rogue apostrophe in the first para. I refuse to read further until this has been corrected.
Salisbury
November 18th, 2011 8:42pm Report this commentWhat pervades Nigel Farage's speech is the eternal question: is it better to be well-governed by somebody else, or badly governed by ourselves?
It is very clear where Mr Farage stands on that question and although not a supporter of his, I do admire the strength of his conviction on the matter. I wonder, however, whether it is his romantic faith in democracy, or simply his visceral hatred for Van Rompuy et al, that brings him to the absurdity of defending Berlusconi, who crippled the Italian economy, or Papandreou, who clearly couldn't rescue Greece. Faith in the voters is a fine and noble sentiment, but what do you do when the voters return governments capable of wrecking not just their own countries but bringing down the rest as well?
This is not a plea for rule by bureaucrat - an idea against which I instinctively recoil. But you cannot pretend the dilemma does not exist. What would we be saying I wonder, if the financial markets (and it is the markets ultimately, not the dictators of Berlin or Brussels) had chased Gordon Brown from office?
If nothing else, the eurozone crisis has shown that markets and economics are infinitely more powerful forces than politics, This is why the likes of Mr Farage might make for good spectacle, but not for good judgement.
Vernon Butcher
November 18th, 2011 8:53pm Report this commentWell said Nigel - we all seem to be sleep walking into a European Superstate dominated by Germany and their lapdogs France
Vernon Butcher
November 18th, 2011 9:05pm Report this commentWe seem to be sleep walking into a German Superstate. We have to fight this but all eurosceptics MUST unite - we have strength in numbers.
Peter From Maidstone
November 18th, 2011 10:28pm Report this comment135,000+ views of this video. It will never be mentioned in the MSM though. How do we ensure that Farage is heard on TV and in the press?
MairT
November 19th, 2011 1:55am Report this commentI tried to post the clip on Sky but so far...nowt! Am I surprised? Been a follower of Nigel Farage for years.........the only man that has balls in the politcal arena
Trev
November 19th, 2011 2:07am Report this comment158,555 now,not bad for only a couple of days viewing.Personally it speaks volumes to me,as i know it does for the majority of people of this country.But hey,i'm sure the media will soon find a way to put a stop to that little train of thought.
gram64
November 19th, 2011 4:50am Report this commentFarage is magnificent. No other politician is able to so clearly and forcefully articulate the concerns of the increasing number of Eurosceptics in Britain and, indeed, Europe. He's got a huge number of fans in the U.S., too. Farage for P.M. He'd certainly be the only genuine People's P.M. we've had since Churchill.
Santorum
November 19th, 2011 7:02am Report this commentPeter from Maidstone
Are you serious!? Farage is never off the TV. He gets exposure well beyond the strength of his party.
It's a great bit of rhetoric from Farage. I don't agree with much he says, but the squirming from the Commission is a delight.
fergus pickering
November 19th, 2011 11:08am Report this commentSalisbury, you have faith that this lot of nobodies who have never done anything in their miserable lives will do better. I have not
Scott
November 19th, 2011 11:16am Report this commentSalisbury, the point he was making is that Greece and Italy now have un-elected officials. It should be up to the people of these countries to decide who governs them, NOT UN-ELECTED OFFICIALS IN BRUSSELS. The whole problem with the EU is the people who run the show do not have to answer to any of the electorate. Wrong, wrong wrong. We have have an opportunity to boot them out if we aren't happy!
Ghengis
November 19th, 2011 11:22am Report this commentMr Farage stands for democracy concisely, without room for misunderstanding he addresses those responsible for a clear breach in democratic principle. Would that more politicians do so when plying their trade.
Jimdn
November 19th, 2011 1:04pm Report this commentPlease maggie and mary c., how does installing 'commissioners' in Greece, Italy further the cause of European peace? I should really have thought this likely to promote conflict, but please would you like to defend this? By the way, I happen to believe that peace in Europe was due to i) Nato, and ii) the impossibility of war when nations have nuclear weapons, not the presence of the EU, though the EU has been harmless enough in the early days.
Verity
November 19th, 2011 1:57pm Report this commentSpeccie chaps - Can you please change the number of viewings posted below the video from 75,000 to the current figure? I believe there have been around another 75,000 viewings since this post went up.
Ghengis
November 19th, 2011 3:37pm Report this commentV - it may be a chapess?
Noa
November 19th, 2011 4:06pm Report this commentIf you think Farage is "misunderestimating" the threat just have a look at what that old street fighting commie Joschka Fischer and the German Europhiles are cooking up in Germany for a united europe.
www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,797626,00.html
Verity
November 19th, 2011 6:03pm Report this commentGenghis - You can use "chaps" as an inclusive even if there are women in the group.
Esteemed editors, you are still stalled on "75,000 viewings". It is now 215,000. Almost quarter of a million people have tuned in, of their own free will, to watch this video and send links to their friends and families. I am predicting 250,000 by the end of Sunday. That is one hell of a lot of potential UKIP switchees in one swoop.
Halcyondaze
November 23rd, 2011 2:01pm Report this commentGO NIGEL! A brilliant speech. Despite the desperate attempts of the Lib/Lab/Con to smear and bully this man into silence he stands up and tells it exactly how it is: a man of principle, bravery and determination. If only the Heir to Blair and idiots like Ken Clarke had a fraction of this man's gumption! Spread the word for UKIP.
Simon Mabbutt
November 27th, 2011 12:33pm Report this commentThis is an excellent response from Nigel. I have been a Conservative supporter all my life like many friends and family and will now be voting UKIP.The Conservatives have broken their promise re a referendum on Europe, become soft on Immigration and soft on Crime. No different from Labour. It is time for UKIP. Well done Nigel. Keep it up.
mac rutherford
November 28th, 2011 7:12pm Report this commentWell done Nigel, all the pussy footing around that our goverment does, giving huge sums to Europe because we have to, even though we so obviously can't afford it, the lack of a promised reforendum on Europe, which most sane people want out of, precisely because we are now ruled by these unelected morons who are telling us what & how we should be doing in OUR country! VOTE UKIP in the next election.
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