Saint Obama? Not quite...

James

"Another much-trumpeted Obama reform was to introduce “net neutrality” laws. Far from being neutral, the rules hugely benefited web giants such as Google and Amazon."

I wish people wouldn't write about 'net neutrality' when they don't have a clear understanding of what it means.

I can only assume that Obama was informed by more learned people and quietly backed away from such a daft concept.

That paragraph could easily have been replaced with the far more pressing issue of the NDAA and indefinite detention without trial or charge.

Axstane

From what we see and read and hear Obama is a shoo-in since the Republican candidates for nomination are all so very flawed, puzzingly so.

In a nation of 300-million people are they really the best that can be found or is just a matter of money?

Right On

Obama in "easy ride from the press" shocker.

We can look forward to a hilarious repeat of 2008 when John McCain, about as moderate a politician as you'll find was painted as an lunatic extremist whilst Obama was given messianic coverage.

I think again you need to stop positioning the Republican field as "hopeless" there are a series of also rans who can't beat Obama and there is Romney who is polling ever better against him.

Romney - Obama will be exceptionally close and will most likely come down to Ohio, Michigan and Colorado.

Nicholas

He'll get the black vote again but it won't be racism.

harry

yeah you run through a bunch of well-worn conservative smears against obama, your problem is that americans have started to see through them.

on healthcare obama faced shrill opposition from the republicans and even right-wingers in his own party. they would never have accepted a public option. so he struck a deal with the healthcare industry that he wouldn't introduce a public option in exchange for their support on the rest of the bill. that's savvy negotiating. as a result 30 million americans will get coverage and the democrats passed a bill they've wanted for 50 years.

looking at the big picture, obama's failing has been on the economy. and considering the hospital pass he got from bush it's hardly surprising. coffee house is happy to blame labour for UK economic woes for the foreseeable future so i hope they give the same courtesy to the republicans. american voters certainly will.

Right On

@ Axstane - the Republican field is relatively weak due to the 2006 wipe out, and due to many thinking they have a better chance in 2016. All that said every Primary race I can remember had a weakish field, all that matters is that it creates a viable candidate and in Romney they have that.

@ harry - that's a pretty daft analysis. The charges against Obama are that 1. he spent an age on his healthcare plan (which remains a mess) when the economy was all that was important. 2. He rammed through a massive stimulous that did nothing to drive the economy 3. His presidency for 3 years has been 100% focused not on improving the country but on his profile and re-election.

After running as a post-partisan uniter he will run for re-election with an ultra-partisan, cynical and negative campaign - so much for hope and change!

RMH

He will win as his opponents as they stand are easily beatable.

Vulture

No-one has yet answered this:

If liberal Mitt Romney lost to old McCain last time round ( he did) and McCain went on to lose to Obama ( he did) why does anyone think that two-time loser Romney will win this time round?

The logic of Romney's candidature escapes me. It's a helluva long time since a liberal Republican won the US presidency.

Tariq

Whoever the lucky individual is, the Republican nominee will be forced to campaign on the Tea Party's platform of radical cuts to taxing and spending. Obama won't have to lean very far left at all to seem reasonable and rational by comparison (and as he's repeatedly demonstrated, he isn't the left-wing radical the TP shrilly insists he is). His reversals on various issues dear to liberals won't matter to most voters and render him immune to Republican attacks. One in three Americans now lives in or near poverty: that's the only issue in this election.

Verity

Harry, you may not have learned to make capital letters in school yet, but on the computer keyboard, if you look to your right, you will see an oblong key with an arrow point upwards and another key to the right that reads: Block Letters. Hold either of these down while you hit the first letter of the first word in your sentence. Evens trolls and morons can work these two keys.

I guarantee that no one read your post.

fergus pickering

Obama is no friend of ours, possibly because he believed all the crap his wastrel father told him/

Swissy J

And he also promised he would shut down Guantanamo within his first year. We're still waiting - so are 171 prisoners who have never been charged with any offence or brought to trial.

fergus pickering

Perhaps, Verity, poor Harry has only one hand.

Verity

Fergus Pickering -- Agreed. He is very nasty piece of work and rabidly anti-British per his father. His family/tribe in Kenya are a bunch of wastrels, as are all the ones managed to sneak into the US. The illegal immigrant aunt and uncle,in Baltimore (why Baltimore?) who have been on the taxpayer teat (public housing and food stamps) since sneaking in, and have been served deportation orders two or three times, yet are, I believe, still rooted. There are a couple of brothers in the US illegally and working illegally ... one of them in a liquor store.

His family were anti-British during the Mau Mau manifestation.

The first official thing he did as President was send back to Britain a bust of Winston Churchill that had been a gift to our greatest ally from Britain. He is absolutely writhing with hatred, which is why he made common cause with FBI's former Number One Most Wanted, William Ayers. Leader of The Weathermen bombers. His campaign for the presidency was kicked off in the Chicago living room of William Ayers and his wife/cohort Bernadette Dohrn. It is also widely said that Ayers wrote his autobiography, "Dreams of My Father" for him. As vicious a crew as you could possibly wish for.

His half brother is called Obongo Obama. I think he's the gay one who would have come out of the closet if only he had had a closet.

I have seen Obama's Indonesian school registration (it's on the net) and under Religion, "Muslim" had been ticked. This isn't at all necessary in Indonesia, which is not a Islamic Republic.

This is the man, who, when a candidate for the Presidency of the United States, said the United States has 57 states.

Also there is an old aunt in Kenya somewhere who remembers Obama being born in her village.

Voter

Prediction - Obama will be sworn in for a second term in January 2013. No contest.

Voter

@ Verity. Ridiculous - Obama has even published hisbirth certificate. He was born in Hawaii which makes him an American.

fergus pickering

Voter, that will probably happen, but he remains a nasty piece of work, a snooty 'intellectual' and a liar to boot. As to birth certificates, I don't know, but I distrust official pieces of paper. Verity may be right. Why not? What makes your piece of paper better than hers?

Verity

Voter - "Obama has even published his birth certificate!" Oh really? Where is it? Outer Mongolia?

The Obamarama has not published his birth certificate and indeed has gone to amazing lengths to keep it hidden ... even risking his bid for the presidency.

One reason he was so keen to have McCain as an opponent was that McCain was born on a US Naval Base in Panama, but naval and other US military bases are considered to be American soil. But Obama clearly had some idea of conflating this with his own unexplained circumstances. Just as he conflated his religion when he returned to the US from Indonesia on an Indonesian passport. (He later applied to an Ivy League for a Third Worlder grant. I think it was Harvard, but can't remember.) If he had been born in Hawaii, which had been accorded statehood at the time, why would he have applied for a Third World grant and where would he had got the Indonesian passport?

James

"I have seen Obama's Indonesian school registration (it's on the net) and under Religion, "Muslim" had been ticked. This isn't at all necessary in Indonesia, which is not a Islamic Republic."

That would be the same school record that names Honolulu as his place of birth, wouldn't it?

Verity

My point about Obama travelling back to the United States on an Indonesian passport is this: His mother had married an Indonesian and they were living in Jakarta. When her son was old enough to have his own passport, all she had to do was go down to the American Embassy, in Jakarta, with some photos in the required size and ... his BIRTH CERTIFICATE and he would have been issued a passport of the United States of America. The best passport in the world.

But she didn't. Hmmmmm.

Instead, she got her kid a Third World passport. Passing odd, that.

So Obama came back to, supposedly, the land of his birth on an Indonesian passport.

Verity

Obama's passport Part Deux.

So he "returns" to the United States on an Indonesian passport. Later, he applies to an Ivy League, can't remember which one, for a grant as a "third world student".

Hmmmm.

And during his very bizarre presidential campaign, he claims to have visited "all 57 states". As we know, the US has 50 states, the last one to join being Hawaii. Date of birth seems to be a bit dodgy. Was it before or after Hawaii became a state, which was in 1959. Obama was supposedly born in 1961. Of course, he has no proof of that. If he had been born two years earlier, he would not be a natural born American citizen - and you have to be a natural born American to run for the presidency.

Verity

James writes: "That would be the same school record that names Honolulu as his place of birth, wouldn't it?"

What is recorded in the school records in Jakarta was information supplied by Obama's mother. He may well have been born in Hawaii, but two years before Hawaii became a state, meaning he would not have been elible to stand for the presidency of the US. US territories, like Guam, for example, and like Hawaii was before it became a state, are not part of the United States of America.

My personal theory is that Obama was probably born in Hawaii, while it was a territory, two years before it became a state, and was thus ineligible to run for the presidency.

Kevin

The canonisation of any politician is a straightforward matter. It merely requires the gagging of the Devil's Advocate. Who is more able to issue a gagging order than someone in government? So it is that whenever the character of Obama is discussed, his diabolical failings are simply glossed over. Take, for instance, the following quote from a statement by Obama in the Illinois Senate in 2001:

"whenever we define a previable fetus as a person that is protected by the equal protection clause..., what we're really saying is, in fact, that they are persons that are entitled to the kinds of protections that would be provided to a -- a child, a nine-month-old -- child that was delivered to term. That determination then, essentially, if it was accepted by a court, would forbid abortions to take place. I mean, it -- it would essentially bar abortions, because the equal protection clause does not allow somebody to kill a child".

Note the Freudian slip - Obama refers to a child carried to term as "a nine-month old" child, which of course it is, though a child's age is traditionally calculated from the moment it first becomes visible.

And note the purpose of this evil statement. To paraphrase it: "The equal protection clause does not allow somebody to kill a child, so we must withhold that protection when we want to kill".

Clear Memories

At the end of the day, he's still a descendant from Africa, a continent that has yet to produce a capable leader.

He is the most decisive President the USA has ever produced, both at home and abroad.

As the best-selling bumper sticker says;

"You voted him in to prove you weren't a racist. Now vote him out to prove you're not a f**kin idiot"

Axstane

Verity

You do love to run on with your obsessions don't you?
Hawaii statehood arrived in August 1959. Obama was born in August 1961.

You may wish to join the conspiracy theorists and Birchites that he has a fake birth certificate, et al, but please don't take the rest of us also to be fools - we can count.

I don't give a fig for Obama or any American President since Reagan but I do care for facts.

Please revert to your normal posts where you recycle your anti-Cameron epithets.

Frank P

Melanie's summing up here does it for me:

http://melaniephillips.com/a-fearful-symmetry

What with that and Mark Steyn's latest piece in the Orange County Register, it's tempting to return to my computer-free zone until next November. Looks like a dire year ahead.

Frank P

Fergus Pickering (6.45pm yesterday)

Or perhaps the other one is constantly employed in onanistic pursuits, given the content and style of his post. At his age it wouldn't be unusual.

fergus pickering

No, I like it better when Verity gives Obama both barrels.

Verity

Axestane - You do miss the point, don't you?

You say Hawaii became a state in 1959 (correct) and Obama was born in 1961 (hmmmm. My point ... my entire point, clearly expressed, was ... was he? Does his birth certificate say 1961 or 1958?

We don't know. There is some compelling reason that he refused to produce it.

Verity

Axestane - If you are not concerned that the president of the most powerful country in the world is not legally in place, what would it take to concern you? There are plenty of very sound Americans who are concerned about Obama, and who he is beholden to, for getting into the White House. For sure, he did not get there legitimately. Why would he dice with his chance at the White House if he had an unexceptional birth certificate to produce?

Less of the ad hominems, please.

Verity

James - "That would be the same school record that names Honolulu as his place of birth, wouldn't it?"

Do you really think the school in Jakarta, 40 years ago, would have asked to see his birth certificate? They would have written down what the parent told them ... and probably still do, as is the case in most places.

Obama is sly. He was a Chicago "fixer".

Noa.

Working people frequently ask retired people what they do to make their days interesting. Well, for example, the other day, my wife and I went into town and visited a shop.
When we came out, there was a cop writing out a parking ticket. We went up to him and I said, 'Come on, man, how about giving a senior citizen a break?'
He ignored us and continued writing the ticket.
I called him an “a--hole” .. He glared at me and started writing another ticket for having worn-out tyres.
So Kate called him a “s--t head”. He finished the second ticket and put it on the windshield with the first.
Then he started writing more tickets. This went on for about 20 minutes. The more we abused him, the more tickets he wrote.
Just then our bus arrived, and we got on it and went home.

We always look for cars with "OBAMA 2012" stickers.

Verity

Noa - ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!!

Verity

Noah - You have given my American friends a good laugh. Thanks!

Clear Memories

For the good of the planet, we need to be rid of this Muslim apologist Indonesian-African. I refuse to add the last leg of the tag as he clearly hates America.

As I stated earlier and nobody has challenged, there is no such thing as a capable genetically-African leader. This man does not have the ability or the stature to (effectively) head up the free world.

For a start, he's an adherent to Islam, which literally means submission and that doesn't sit well with freedom. He's a socialist - and we all know the greatest wilderness on the planet is the space between a socialists ears. Like the rest of his breed, he's bone idle - never has a President spent so much time on the golf course. And he's stupid. How many states are there in the US? If it wasn't for the fawning media, you'd realise just how stupid this man is.

The greatest disaster facing the world in 2012 is not the Mayan calender, nor the collapse of the Euro, not even the (hopeful) annihilition of Iran by Israel but the possible re-election of this useless, divisive white-hating buffoon.

Archie

All I know is that it took him an awfully long time to produce this "birth certificate" after people started clamouring!