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Tuesday, 10th June 2008

Obama's VP List

James Forsyth 10:48pm

Obama’s VP vetters, including the embattled Jim Johnson, have been up on Capitol Hill talking about possible picks. First Read reports that the names discussed include Jim Jones, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, John Edwards, Evan Bayh, Kathleen Sebelius, Ted Strickland, Mark Warner, Tim Kaine, Jim Webb, Bill Nelson, Jack Reed, Joe Biden, Chris Dodd, Tom Daschle, and Sam Nunn. Now, we can’t be certain if the eventual choice is on that list—there are lots of obvious reasons for not talking about everyone you are considering. But here, as with the McCain BBQ, is Americano’s guide to the pros and cons of the names on the list.

Jim Jonesformer Nato Supreme Allied Commander

Pro: A Marine combat vet with an impeccable military record and from a swing state to boot. Would shore up Obama’s national security creds and deal with any patriotism deficit on the ticket.

Con: Huge risk to throw a political novice into the heat of a presidential campaign—look at how Wes Clarke crashed and burned in the 2004 Democratic primaries. Second, does anyone know his position on hot-button domestic issues? Finally, would picking Jones draw attention to Obama’s own lack of foreign policy knowledge?

Hillary Clinton, former first lady and New York Senator

Pro: It is a unity ticket

Con: Having her on the ticket, would undercut Obama’s entire message.

John Kerry, 2004 defeated presidential candidate and Senator from Massachusetts

Pro: Foreign policy expert who has served. He’s already been through national campaign—so no surprises—and having Bush’s opponent on the ballot would keep people talking about Bush during the campaign which would boost the Democrats.

Con: There were a lot of reasons he lost in 2004 and an awful lot of them had to do with him personally.

John Edwards, 2004 defeated VP candidate and former Senator from North Carolina

Pro: A white Southern male would offer a neat racial and geographical contrast to Obama. North Carolina is one of the states that Obama is keen to try and take from the GOP and the native son factor could help with that. Plus like Kerry, he’s already been through a presidential campaign so thoroughly vetted.

Con: Didn’t do much for Kerry in 2004, he made no discernible difference to the ticket’s performance in North Carolina. Like Obama he has no executive experience and a thin record of accomplishment in the Senate, this would allow the Republicans to attack this as a ticket of two inexperienced pretty boys.

Evan Bayh, Senator from Indiana, previously the state governor

Pro: A moderate, a Clinton supporter and from a purple state.

Con: A bit wooden and his hawkish statements on Iran would sit oddly alongside Obama’s pledge to meet with them without preconditions. Also as a key Clinton surrogate will have said things about Obama’s policies that will make easy Republican attack ads.

Kathleen Sebelius, Governor of Kansas

Pro: Female, which should prevent any erosion in the Democrats’ advantage among women following Hillary’s failure. She’s won in a heavily-Republican state and comes from the continental US state where Obama has family ties, he’s going to need to emphasise his link to the mainland lest a childhood that involved growing up in Hawaii and Indonesia allows him to be painted as somehow ‘other.’

Con: Sebelius is caught up in a row over Catholic politicians who support abortion should be allowed to receive communion—not a helpful issue for the Democrats to have rear its head during the campaign considering how hard McCain is going to be trying to peel off the ‘Reagan Democrats.   
 
Ted Strickland, Governor of Ohio

Pro: In many ways the perfect choice, a Clinton supporter who is governor of a—if not—the key swing state with an appeal to precisely the kind of downscale voters that Obama has such trouble reaching.

Con: He’s ruled himself out in Shermanesque fashion,

Mark Warner, former Governor of Virginia

Pro: Phenomenally popular in Virginia, a key Obama target state. He has business experience and centrist credentials to offset Obama’s more liberal record.

Con: He’s currently the Democratic Senate candidate in Virginia so picking him as VP would probably meaning foregoing the Democrats’ opportunity of picking up this seat. Also, has no national security experience and his decision not to run in the primaries—having dipped several toes in the water—raised questions about his hunger.

Tim Kaine, Governor of Virginia

Pro: The incumbent governor being on the ticket would surely boost its chances in this state. Plus, Kaine’s missionary work would help the Democrats close the God gap.

Con: No national security experience and very little general experience. He’s also opposed to abortion, which could cause trouble with certain female elements in the party who are still angered by Hillary’s defeat and the way the Obama campaign treated her.

Jim Webb, Secretary of the Navy under Reagan and now a Democratic Senator from Virginia

Pro: A Vietnam vet, a Republican turned Democrat and a proud Scots-Irish American—it looks like the ideal match on paper. Add in, his early and strident opposition to the war in Iraq and the fact he’s from Virginia and it all seems perfect.

Cons: Webb is not suited to not being the lead act and he chaffed at the disciplines required of being a Senate candidate so who knows how he would cope as a national one. Also, Webb said rather some rather offensive things about women when he was opposing them being admitted to the Naval Academy while his fictional oeuvre contains some passage that could cause some embarrassment.

Bill Nelson, Senator from Florida

Pro: Would make Obama competitive in this state.
Con: No executive experience and wouldn’t help Obama with the downscale white voters he needs to win over.

Jack Reed, Senator from Rhode Island

Pro: A vet who is now a respected voice on military affairs in the Senate and voted against Iraq.

Con: No executive experience and a voting record that is as liberal as Obama’s.
 
Job Biden, Senator from Delaware

Pro: Knows foreign policy backwards. Plus, his bio will resonate with those beer track voters Obama has had trouble reaching.

Con: Gaffe prone: bound to put his feet in it really badly at least once during the campaign.

Chris Dodd, Senator from Connecticut

Pro: Experienced, successful legislator,

Con: Again, no executive experience and a liberal voting record. Also, might be a bit too Washington establishment for the ‘change’ ticket.

Tom Daschle, former Senate Majority Leader

Pro: Daschle has played a key role helping Obama ever since he hit the national stage so the chemistry would be good. Also, he is a plausible president.

Con: His wife is a lobbyist which doesn’t quite fit the reformist Obama message. Daschle is a smart tip for White House Chief of Staff, though, or Health and Human Services.

Sam Nunn, former Senator from Georgia

Pro: A Southern, white male centrist would provide the ticket with balance. On top of this, he’s a recognised national security expert.

Con: Would he be prepared to be an attack dog? His vote against the first Gulf War could also be problematic.

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obamaobserver

June 10th, 2008 11:47pm Report this comment

Whoever it is, he/she has got to get their mind focussed on the fact that the senior boy himself appears to be running as a cross between Jesus and King Canute.

Verity

June 11th, 2008 1:11am Report this comment

11:57 pm Interesting that you propose so many governors. I think he will stay away from them because he has no executive experience in government or the private sector and they would eat his lunch.

On the side, having been born in Hawaii two years after it became a state, Obama, about a couple of months ago referenced that he had visited "all forty-eight states and Hawaii and Alaska". A bit eerie.

Also, his background is much too exciting. Plus his family on his mother's side, were slave-owners generations ago.

Verity

June 11th, 2008 1:34am Report this comment

obamaobserver - No, the exact opposite of King Canute. Canute's ministers believed he had power over everything and he couldn't persuade them otherwise - that he was just a person. So he took them down to the shore and commanded the tide to go back. When it kept surging forward, the very wise and interesting Canute said, "See?"

But Jesus Christ I can give you. Because if Canute was well aware that he couldn't order the waters to recede, Obama seeks to persuade his followers that he can walk over them.

Benjamin

June 11th, 2008 3:52am Report this comment

Other cons.

Sebelius is the front-runner in my book but there is always the female thing that will piss off some of the Hillary dead-enders. Expect her to be a no-go if some of the bitterness is still there then (Obama does not want to be perceived as taking Hillary-lite or something)

Sam Nunn is a no-go because of his tremendously offensive anti-gay record.

Craig Strachan

June 11th, 2008 4:13am Report this comment

Jim Webb is the best bet. I disagree that he always needs to be the lead act - he's ex-military and so understands the need for subordination. His (by now quite old) comments about women in the military could be a bigger problem, especially if you buy that Obama really needs to mend fences with women voters "because he beat Hillary". But I don't think that at all. A candidiate with Obama's appeal - articulate, good looking guy, with certain feminine (or maybe that should be metrosexual) qualities, well-positioned on women's issues - is going to get womens votes.

Obama's real problem is with blue collar and rural whites in an arc of territory from western New York, through the Ohio Valley, western Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Kentucky, Tennessee and on into southern Missouri and Arkansas. Basically Appalachia and the areas of its cultural spillover. Jim Webb - born in Missouri of Scots-Irish heritage, a self-described Reagan Democrat and a keen gun owner - can help Obama out with these people.

Plus Webb's national security credentials rival McCain's, with the useful wrinkle that Webb was right on Iraq where McCain was wrong. And Webb's sponsorship of a latter-day GI bill to give better benefits to returning war veterans is making McCain squirm.

Besides, all the others you mention, with the exception of Hillary Clinton, are just too damn boring.

Curmudgeon

June 11th, 2008 9:52am Report this comment

Hillary's chances went from slim to none with the re-emergence of Paula Jones and Gennifer Flowers. The Guardian has a piece on this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/11/clinton.usa

Jones is the best bet - totally destroys McCain's national security advantage.

Old Hack

June 11th, 2008 11:33am Report this comment

As interesting is who McCain picks.

Ganpat Ram

June 11th, 2008 11:33am Report this comment

Obama's failure is certain.

It only remains to be seen whether it will be in 2008 or 2012.

His politics of vague slippery rhetoric is exactly the recipe for disaster in government.

Government is about hard decisions. Obama specialises in fudging the issues, with the enthusiastic help of an inane media which seems drugged on the idea that the US has to have this crooked grinnning Chicago politico as President for some mystic racial healing.

Like all mystical solutions, there will be a hard waking up.

If he gets into the White House, Obama has to withdraw pronto from Iraq to keep his cred with his feckless groupies.

But that will leave Iraq to bloody chaos and shame him forever with the broad US public.

Or he stays in Iraq and loses his followers.

He has to spend hugely to keep his followers.

That will throw the economy even further into the pit.

Or he cuts spending and loses his followers.

These are merciless dilemmas, and Obama with his tenth-rate inspirational rhetoric will be stuff of brutal jokes before long if he wins.

So it will be Hillary or Gore in 2012.

Ian C

June 11th, 2008 3:21pm Report this comment

If this really is the whole list then it reads as Webb (smartest move - ex-GOP and momentum behind him in Virginia, which Obama needs to win) or Jones (national security - but a soldier politician?) and a long shot for Sebelius (women and a Rep. state). Webb is surely the safest choice.

Craig Strachan

June 12th, 2008 10:33pm Report this comment

James Carville floated another possible VP pick today - Al Gore! (Carville would have him as VP and "energy czar").

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