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Wednesday, 11th June 2008

Brogan: The vote looks won

James Forsyth 10:45am

Over at his invaluable blog, Ben Brogan reports that:

The DUP are on board, Diane Abbott has been spoken to by Gordon Brown for the first time in 20 years, cash for sick miners and help for Cuba has been whistled out of nowhere, and so the vote is won. I spoke to David Davis earlier, who knows a thing or two about whipping and numbers. The 54 Labour rebels he knew about on Friday were down to 44 last night, and the DUP will support Mr Brown. At that rate the game is up.

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Liz Brown

June 11th, 2008 11:34am Report this comment

A tragic day for Britainn, our sense of decency and fair play. Those MP's who have been bought should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves but won't be because they don't know the meaning of the word. And tomorrow the Irish will vote in favour of the Constitution - a time for all decent, freedom loving people to pack their bags. But the question becomes - to live where?

VB

June 11th, 2008 11:53am Report this comment

How sad that cash for sick miners and help for Cuba can be whistled out of nowhere to save Gordon Brown embarrassment but not in their own right.

C Powell

June 11th, 2008 12:17pm Report this comment

If the DUP do vote for this wretched proposal, how fitting that it will be Northern Irish MPs who will be responsible for bringing internment (which they wholeheartedly supported in the 1970s) to the UK mainland - and how depressing for those of us who used to believe in a Britain which stood up for liberty, freedom and democracy.

Tom

June 11th, 2008 12:32pm Report this comment

Do tell us more about the cash for Cuba please

cuffleyburgers

June 11th, 2008 1:28pm Report this comment

Congratulations to Gordon Brown.

I didn't think he could do it!

But he has. He has hit a new low in the squalid tale of New labour's betrayal of the people of this country.

Give the man a cigar

David C

June 11th, 2008 1:33pm Report this comment

The '42 Days' measures will win in the Commons but will be ground to dust in the Lords.
All this to make McBean look tough and have him flash his strange, crocodile grin for the TV cameras.

And remind people just why they they regard him with such contempt.

This has ceased to be what is right in the eyes of the public.
It has become a football match.
It is tribal.
For the majority of the electorate, Brown plays for the other team.

Nicholas

June 11th, 2008 2:03pm Report this comment

Just watched Daily Politics and have to say that Kitty Ussher, Treasury Minister, speaking on 42 days, represents everything that appalls me most about this national socialist government. Her disgraceful and unprofessional demeanour towards the Tories (in the form of Alan Duncan) was almost a hate crime of the sort the government are so enamoured with (but which, of course, may be summarised as some hate being more equal than others). She resorted to the emotional sensationalism so beloved of national socialists which seeks to whip up popular feeling by demonising certain groups and communities and to those glib Labour too oft-repeated sound bites, making huge assumptions that those arrested would be guilty (which says it all really). And she was so intensely earnest, zealous and dogmatic that I thought to myself "female fanatic at Greenham Common" rather than "government minister at Westminster".

Then we were treated to Brown doing the same kind of populist rabble rousing beloved of the former national socialists by quoting out of context from Conservative and Lib Dem websites. Behind him, more of those dippy, hippy Labour women were clogging up parliamentary time with their "assertion" questions about caring, sharing and welfare counted in minorities of the thousands rather than in majorities of the millions of ordinary, decent, hard working people suffering under Labour inflicted woes

These types of people ruling us and making decisions which affect our lives. God help us.

The Laughing Cavalier

June 11th, 2008 2:42pm Report this comment

What happened to principles?

Dave B

June 11th, 2008 3:32pm Report this comment

I don't think you can take what Mr Brogan says at face value. I get the impression he parrots whatever is most convenient for Mr Brown at that moment in time.

JimBob

June 11th, 2008 4:14pm Report this comment

2 good things about this:

Might not get through the Lords.

Even if it does, it will be reversed by the Tories in 2 years time anyway

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