Rumble in the Commons

Pot Head

Look's like a case of too much Top Totty...

MilkSnatcher

Labour road-testing their Scottish referendum campaign

MilkSnatcher

Labour and the Tories testing their Scottish referendum campaign on each other.

Kittler

Anyone know of any other workplaces that have bars for the amenity of the staff?

Vulture

Joyce is an ex-army officer. Any soldier who joins Labour after what they did to our troops is either a traitor or a careerist - or both.

Mudplugger

Kittler.....
You missed out the adjective 'subsidised'.
An even rarer workplace benefit.

Peter From Maidstone

Why are the bars subsidised when our MPs already receive a large salary and expenses?

Andy Leeds

So this Labour thug seems to think he can use violence within the Palace of Westminster. Will spineless Ed do anything ? Like expelling this thug from the Labour Party ?

2trueblue

Why indeed do we have to subsidise our MPs in any way? They are a very spoilt lot and disassociated from the reality we all endure. Whatever happens to them when they go to Westminster I do not know, but they then have a separate mind set and we become irrelevant.

Douglas Carter

Reuters are reporting that Joyce has claimed his wife was actually driving his forehead at the time, and that she is responsible for the incident.

francbanc

And these are the people they want to run us... "See you Cammy!" *bosh*

Ghengis

Why is it that I am not in any way surprised, I have been long convinced that they are all nowt but pigs fighting at a trough.

Austin Barry

Given that that a disproportionate number of MPs are unstable sociopaths, many of them Labour and Scottish, is it wise to make discounted alcoholic beverages readily available?

At least we can now see why Cameron wants to raise the minimum price of booze.

In2minds

Fighting for Scottish independence I suppose?

David Ossitt

Kittler

“Anyone know of any other workplaces that have bars for the amenity of the staff?”

The police station in Stockton upon Tees had a private police officers club above ‘the shop’ as it were.

Mind it was many years ago.

I had been giving information over a fraud that I had discovered at one of the stores that I was in control of, after I was invited to have a drink.

If memory serves I paid, but not being a member had to hand the cash to one that was.

David Ossitt

Austin Barry

“At least we can now see why Cameron wants to raise the minimum price of booze.”

The masters can drink heavily subsidised booze, whilst the rest of us are to pay extra by having totally unnecessary price rises for political reasons.

Drake

Vulture - I agree with you but the point you miss is that he left the Army at the start of the New Labour project as a chippy ex-ranker moaning in the Fabian Society about glass ceilings; he actively helped out with the application of Gordon Brown's dead hand.

Tragically, what you said about Labour now applies to the conservatives; they are delivering far worse damage to the Armed Forces than Brown ever did. I predict the usual suspects interventions but this is a political choice they have made and has little to do with the absence of money.

If you are concerned about the Armed Forces and Defence then neither mainstream party offers a crumb of comfort, thanks to Cameron's lightweight view of the world and his flipflop wearing, out of the box, "strategists".

MikeF

No surprise that the perpetrator is a Labour MP. These days that is the Nasty Party.

In2minds

Too many bars in the HoC perhaps? How about converting a bar into a prayer room, or would that start another fight?

Noa.

"Joyce, who spent 21 years in the Army, in 2008 became the first MP to claim £200,000 expenses in a year.

In 2010, he resigned his post as Shadow Northern Ireland minister after failing to provide a breath test following a mystery road accident".

Well, in his defence the Falkirk electorate obviously considered this remarkable man to be a fitting representative of their mores and values.

Mac

Eric Joyce is no stranger to drink. Perhaps they should call time on drinking alcohol at Westminster - too many lager louts as well as Tories.

Mac

Perhaps it is a new drinking game - sink a pint - head butt a Tory - sink a another pint - head butt another Tory.

The trouble is that there is only one Tory in Scotland, so its a game that can only be played at Westminster.

Wilhelm 1

Labour bar room brawler Eric Joyce has had a massive chimp out, he's released his inner chimp. It's taken 20 years but I knew it would happen and he would finally get his comeuppance.

This labour creep is a real nasty piece of work. Typical Scots Labour apparatchik, careerist, opportunist, climbing the greasy pole, will say and do anything for his own advancement and instant gratification.

This Eric Joyce sleazeball came to my attention a couple of years ago. Joyce spent 20 years as an officer in the British Army. He left the army and said that they were all '' racists, bigots and sexists.''

So why did Joyce stay in the army then for 20 years then if he knew all this ?

This slimeball also cut the money for soldiers who were injured in Afghanistan.

Joyce is the politician with the highest claim for expenses in one single year £200,000. When he was furnishing his house he bought some paintings £ 1000 and billed the taxpayer for it.

Wilhelm 1

Part 2

Joyce spent £50,000 on traveling expenses, he must have bought the Flying Scotsman.

Last year he was done for drink driving, so he's a drunk and probably alcoholic. A REAL SCUM BAG.

ellis000

In any private company, subsidised or free refreshments would be considered by HMRC as a benefit in kind. The subsidised, or free amount, would be assessed as net of tax and the tax element would then be added on at the marginal rate costing the private organisation an additional (approximate) 70%. It's the rulers what get the pleasure, it's the taxpayer what gets the pain.

Wilhelm 1

Eric Joyce is just another labour sewer rat who's crawled out of the gutter.

He actually has his whole SNOUT in the expense trough, completely shameless, Plus he's a ginger, which is not a good look.

Cynic

"At least we can now see why Cameron wants to raise the minimum price of booze." Only for the masses, Austin. One has to get one's priorities right.

McClane

I see no talk of an MUP for MPs. Just for the rest of us. Like smoking in pubs, banned for us in our bars, allowed for them in theirs. They're on a different planet.

Kennybhoy

Kittler on February 23rd, 2012 8:40am:

Off the top of my head and xcluding those with separate social club type facilities, only HMAF.

Kennybhoy

Puir Wee Wullie on February 23rd, 2012 2:35pm:

"This slimeball also cut the money for soldiers who were injured in Afghanistan."

In point of fact he did no such thing. It was the MOD tried to do so. Joyce very publicly dissented.

Must try harder Maister Wullie!

Dimoto

Note to Hoskin:

Unprovoked GBH is not a "rumble".

Most of the papers have gone with this "jocular jock, (bit of a character) on the booze, gives Glasgow kiss to a bunch of evil Tories" line.

Major Plonquer 1

This is nothing more than a scenario that is played out across Scotland daily. I think it's excellent that the Labour Party are staying in touch with the people they represent.

Wilhelm 1

Kenneth puts up the Nuremburg defense

'' Eric Joyce was just obeying orders ''

That's what they all say, kid. Nice try, but no cigar.

Joyce head butted one MP, threw another MP across the room and punched another MP in the nose.

He looks like a chronic alcoholic to me, what I want to know is , is everyone in the British Army, well, you know, bonkers ?

Peewit

Wilhelm, what's the British Army got to do with it? He's a Labour MP. He parted company with the Army a long time ago and, from his side at least, not on great terms.

He has clearly been turned into a thug by Parliament and what I think this shows is there needs to be a minimum price per unit for alcohol especially tailored to MPs.

They will have to show ID wherever they go; Scottish MPs carry an automatic weighting factor of an additional 50% over all other MPs. Not forgetting Aidan Burley of course who will be subject to a lifetime ban under the new MPAMPS (MP Alcohol Minimum Pricing Scheme).

Frank P

Kittler

February 23rd, 2012 8:40am

"Anyone know of any other workplaces that have bars for the amenity of the staff?"

Scotland Yard used to have, don't know if it's still there - it was known as 'the tank'. And it was subsidised - to a degree.

Wormwood Scrubbs prison - same. Probably other nicks, too. A few hospitals that I knew of. Staff clubs and pubs exist all over the shop, surely? Be fair, man. Don't let one stroppy Scot close down the social life of the nation.

As Tom Jones would say, "It's not unusual".

The Ghost of the Cameo Parkway Kid

Eric Joyce is our king, he chins Tory's

Noa.

"Joyce head butted one MP, threw another MP across the room and punched another MP in the nose."

The man definitely has qualities which will appeal to the general public.

daniel maris

Judging by their tactics in Afghanistan and Basra I think Wilhelm may be right to ask the question.