Why the immigration cap isn’t biting — and why that is good news
Matt Cavanagh 3:31pm
The government’s official advisers on immigration, the Migration Advisory
Committee, have today published a
report into the restrictions on skilled migrant workers from outside the EU. Turns out that the much-vaunted ‘cap’ on skilled workers has only been half taken up — with numbers likely to be around 10,000 against the cap of 20,700 — and that this is offset by the high
numbers of workers, around 30,000, coming to the UK on ‘intra-company transfers’. (These transfers are designed for multinational companies wanting the flexibility to move their
employees around the world: the example used by the Committee’s chairman today was of ‘Japanese auto-engineers testing cylinder-heads made in Japan’ for cars being assembled in
the UK.)
There are three reasons why the cap isn’t being fully taken up. First, employers are getting round it, to some extent, by those intra-company transfers. Second, some employers are being put off even applying, by a combination of the cap and the more onerous application procedure. And the third reason — probably the most important in terms of overall numbers — is that many employers simply aren’t hiring at the moment anyway due to wider economic conditions.
The fact that the cap is not being fully taken up should not be a surprise (see pp.6-7 here). It does however place ministers in a bind: they like to refer to it in their private conversations with employers, to prove that their policy isn’t hurting business; but they haven’t tended to to refer to it in public, since it makes it look like their flagship policy hasn't actually been very effective. In fact, even if the cap had been brought into play, it was never very significant for the government’s net migration target, since it only covers around 3 per cent of total immigration (or 8 per cent if you include intra-company transfers).
Moreover, even before the coalition came to power, the medium-term trend in immigration for work was falling, as this graph from the ONS shows:
This graph covers immigration from inside and outside the EU. Work immigration from outside the EU, the subject of the cap and the government’s other restrictions, fell even faster, by 40 per cent between 2005 and 2009, as the previous government reacted to the increase in immigration from Eastern Europe, and made immigration from outside the EU for work (in the words of the Committee’s report) ‘significantly more selective’. In this context, the further reduction of around 4 per cent in 2011, which the Immigration Minister Damian Green was keen to draw attention to last week, is fairly small.
Nevertheless, it is very important to get this policy right. Even if the cap and other restrictions haven’t had a major effect on numbers this year, they may become a significant drag on growth when the economy picks up again; any further reductions would certainly be unwise. The Committee’s report does note that ‘to be fully confident of [work migration from outside the EU] making a proportionate contribution’ to hitting the government’s net migration target, there would have to be further reductions either in the cap, or in intra-company transfers. But it also notes that, given the small size of the cap, and the current take-up, the necessary reduction could be ‘economically damaging’, as well as reducing tax revenues; it therefore recommends leaving the cap as it is.
I suspect ministers will accept this recommendation — though they may be tempted to restrict intra-company transfers, as the MAC chairman hinted today (and in line with my predictions at the turn of the year). Before they do so, however, they should read the separate report published by the MAC today, by NIESR, which looks at the employment of skilled migrants from outside the EU in strategically important sectors, including aerospace, pharmaceuticals, telecoms, engineering, electronics, and computing, as well as financial services. The report finds that these migrants, most of who arrive on intra-company transfers, are making a disproportionately high contribution to skill levels in these parts of the economy. It also finds that, while they may sometimes be competing with workers already here, they are more often complements rather than substitutes: they enable companies to build teams of experts with complementary skills (including languages and knowledge of overseas markets), and they are also used to help overseas firms set up new businesses here, creating jobs and economic output.
The overall implication of all today’s reports, taken together, is clear. Ministers should stop targeting skilled migrant workers in pursuit of their net migration target simply because it is the easiest kind of immigration to control. Not only is it a relatively small and declining category, but it's also the kind of immigration which the public are not that bothered about, and one which makes a major contribution to our economy — as well as a net positive contribution to employment for those already here.
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mattghg
February 28th, 2012 4:01pm Report this commentMinisters should stop targeting skilled migrant workers in pursuit of their net migration target
So what policy/ies should they adopt in order to try to hit their own net migration target?
Fergus Pickering
February 28th, 2012 4:08pm Report this commentSelf-evidently, keep out more of the unskilled and idle. We have plenty of them home-grown.
Framer
February 28th, 2012 4:16pm Report this commentAll fine and dandy Matt, except you fail to mention that intra company transfer (ICT)workers are exempt from paying national insurance contributions (employer and employee) which is why there are so many. This gives them a huge advantage over local labour. The government claims not to know or care how much revenue is lost but with 30,000 seconded to the UK last year on a median "salary" of £40k, the employees NIC would have been £3,770 and the employer's NIC would have been £4,387 i.e. about £8,000 in total. 30,000 times £8,000 = £240 million of lost NI contributions from such non EEA workers on ICT visas.
Mudplugger
February 28th, 2012 4:16pm Report this commentNo 'immigration cap' can ever work so long as we have no control over those coming from other EU states.
Anyone care to estimate the inflow of Greeks, Portuguese, Spanish, Italian and Irish over the next 5 years, all availing themselves of our 'open-Europe' benefits ? It will make the trickle of Polish plumbers look like a village tea-party.
Michael
February 28th, 2012 4:26pm Report this commentOf course most of the 'intra company transfers are Indian programmers being sent here, paid in India, for short term contract work that used to be done by us Brits. But let's not let that unpleasant fact get in the way. I suppose they bring their families with them. I wonder whether they all go back again when the project finishes?
Chris
February 28th, 2012 4:46pm Report this commentThe cap is probably not biting because it knows a mixed metaphor when it spots a leopard of a different stripe.
Roughyed
February 28th, 2012 4:51pm Report this commentA more typical example of ICT would be: 'Indian IT staff brought into this country to replace British staff by Banks and other large corporations who want to take advantage of the NI and tax breaks on offer'.
Halcyondaze
February 28th, 2012 4:53pm Report this commentFor heaven's sake, people don't care about small numbers of carefully vetted skilled immigrants being allowed into the country for work purposes.
What people care about is the vast swathes of people coming over from Africa, India, the Middle East etc with no skills and no ability or desire to contribute a jot other than to, by sheer weight of numbers, put our people and culture into irreversible retreat.
This was deliberately inflicted on us by Labour and Cameron's contemptuous left-wing Conservatives are doing nothing to turn the situation around.
Vast swathes of London and our major cities are now completely overwhelmed. We're seeing the rise of no go areas like Tower Hamlets in London. And this will spread steadily outwards to the smaller towns and cities in the coming years.
Those with the money to do so will quietly flee (the very same ones who inflicted this upon us by stealth and deceit). The ones left behind will watch helplessly as their country is steadily and violently over-run while they face prosecution and ruination if they dare to object.
How did we ever let this happen?
ejoftheweb
February 28th, 2012 4:54pm Report this commentFergus - on the whole, idle and indolent furriners tend to stay back home. You need a fair bit of drive to migrate. Personally, based on the staff I've taken on, I'd employ a migrant over a local anywhere in the world.
Frank P
February 28th, 2012 4:57pm Report this commentNeather
perdix
February 28th, 2012 5:07pm Report this commentFramer is right. The ICT system is a scam operated mostly by Indian IT companies which seriously undercuts UK workers. And yes,Matt, what do you say about Neather,the policy comment on your Labour friends'objectives?
Jez
February 28th, 2012 5:10pm Report this commentNeather.
Arthur
February 28th, 2012 5:20pm Report this commentPeople on inter-company transfers aren't taking jobs from people who are already here; if the transfers weren't allowed, the position wouldn't be filled at all, and it's possible that companies would think about reducing their presence here altogether. No, it's the import of unskilled workers to do work that the unemployed could do, that causes the most anger here. That, and a reluctance to clear out the illegals here already.
Rhoda Klapp
February 28th, 2012 5:47pm Report this commentI don't think I noticed the bit about why it is good news. It is a pretty poor argument for somebody who one might suspect of liking any kind of immigration to pick on the least objectionable kind and put up a weak defence of it. You know fine well what the problem is with immigration. You all do. Now face it with proper arguments, or keep schtum. Don't give us this guff that recovery is stalled because we can't get enough foreigners in to look after us, and do all those difficult jobs. It would be nice if we had rules that said if you can't find a Brit, hire a foreigner, rather than the other way round.
whatawaste
February 28th, 2012 6:00pm Report this commentWhat Rhoda said. If these immigrants are so skilled just imagine how well placed UK firms would be if all the British directors. chairmen and Chief Execs were replaced by their counterparts from Mumbai. Oh whats that? No takers! Quelle surprise...
TomTom
February 28th, 2012 6:02pm Report this commentWhy can't we choose our Government Supplier like a Utility ? I would like to choose a different Administrative Supplier and reject my Local council and Central Government ? Surely if we can import Indians contractors to work below UK terms we should be able to opt out of taxes and social; charges to a Government which does not believe in its own policies ?
Nicholas
February 28th, 2012 6:10pm Report this commentOn your graph I can't see the category for "to rub the right's nose in diversity". How many immigrants were brought here on your advice to the New Labour regime in order to do that?
It worked, btw, I've had my nose rubbed in diversity long and hard.
Boudicca
February 28th, 2012 6:17pm Report this commentWell said Halycondaze.
'We' let it happen because people believe there is no alternative to LibLabCON.
There is and they should try voting for it. UKIP.
Swiss Bob
February 28th, 2012 6:18pm Report this commentWell I've never sworn before on the Speccie blog but there's always a first.
You can FUCK RIGHT OFF.
As has been pointed out, ICTs mean European IT workers on the dole while the banks receive a subsidy, like they fucking need it.
Do you think that European workers, with kids, a home, a car etc can compete with young single Indians, who pay sod all tax, contribute nothing to the economy, have their accomodation provided, eat communal meals etc.
PISS OFF!
Ian Walker
February 28th, 2012 6:44pm Report this commentIn IT at least, there are big Indian companies that bring unskilled people over here on ICTs, undercutting the native skilled people. They use the substantial profits to pay for heavy lobbying to keep the status quo, hence the toothless MAC report today.
See ICTAbuse.org
Ostrich (occasionally)
February 28th, 2012 6:59pm Report this commentSwiss Bob 28th, 6:18pm
Oh you are angry, Bob!
So am I.
Halcyondaze
February 28th, 2012 7:16pm Report this commentWell said Boudicca.
I will be voting UKIP and I will be encouraging everyone I come across to do the same. Farage is an absolute hero - perhaps our last chance.
I say this as a former Conservative voter - utterly disillusioned with Cameron and his new breed of leftist careerist wolves wrapped in false blue sheep's wool.
The new Conservative Party is just as bad as Labour. From the buffoon Ken Clarke to the slow-witted Matthew Hancock to the egomaniac groupie Louise Mensch - all feasting and fiddling while the country burns.
AAE
February 28th, 2012 7:35pm Report this commentFurther to Halcyondaze, in 94% of London's primary schools, white kids are in a minority.
daniel maris
February 28th, 2012 7:50pm Report this commentAll ist klaar as they used to say on League of Gentleman -
This is from Matt Cavanagh's CV:
"Before joining IPPR in 2011, Matt worked as a special adviser for the Labour government between 2003 and 2010, in the Home Office, the Treasury, the Ministry of Defence, and finally in the Number 10 Policy Unit from 2007 to 2010."
Why on earth would an allegedly patriotic journal employ someone like him to wave the flag for a continuation of the mass immigration policy pursued so successfully by Labour?
The political elite in this country, led by functionaries like Cavanagh, are waving goodbye to the people...
The only people you can trust on this subject are Migration Watch.
Swiss Bob
February 28th, 2012 7:52pm Report this commentOstrich, given what the Tories said about IR35 and ICTs before the election and their subsequent betrayal (Must be a lot of Margaret Morans in the Tory party) I have come to the conclusion that Labour are right, the Tories are scum. It should of course be needless to say that Labour and the LibDems are also scum.
rosie
February 28th, 2012 8:20pm Report this commentHalcyondaze: we let this happen because
1)we are polite and don't like to make a fuss
2)we have the BBC and the Guardian pretending they are the public voice
3) not enough people voted for Michael Howard when he offered to do something about it.
4) Brown and his friends knew immigrants can be got to vote Labour in blocks.
Nicholas
February 28th, 2012 10:59pm Report this comment"Why on earth would an allegedly patriotic journal employ someone like him to wave the flag for a continuation of the mass immigration policy pursued so successfully by Labour?"
Because the Editor is partisan and pro-immigration. But not partisan or pro-immigration enough to tackle the scandal of Neathergate from any perspective. It's a kind of softly softly partisan and pro-immigration approach, personified by this disingenuous propaganda. The Spectator, judging by the number of prominent lefties now being given oxygen in its pages (as if they need that), has gone to the dogs. Two of its last bastion writers of the real right have been shoved into the back pages behind the adverts, to be reached and read only by the determined. And many of the lefties writing are not even identified as such.
For a true journal of the right you need Standpoint. The Speccie has become centre grounded and "balanced", which these days means trotting out lefty propaganda in greater measure than any traditional conservative prose. You can't really blame them though, even the Conservative Party is playing that game. "Modernising" it's called.
daniel maris
February 28th, 2012 11:33pm Report this commentIs one not allowed to refer to Matt Cavanagh's career with the previous Labour Government on this site?
Wilhelm 1
February 29th, 2012 12:04am Report this commentThe Logic of Black People Explained
http://whitelocust.wordpress.com/morality-and-abstract-thinking-how-africans-may-differ-from-westerners/
A very revealing article.
Gedaliah Braun holds a PhD in philosophy and is the author of Racism, Guilt, Self-Hatred and Self-Deceit.
Anyone interested in reading his book can purchase it in PDF format at the AR website, AmRen.com.
Wilhelm 1
February 29th, 2012 12:09am Report this commentGedaliah Braun’s book ” Racism, Guilt and Self Deceit.”
This is what it says on Amazon.com
” In 1976 I left America to teach philosophy in Ibadan, Nigeria. I made some remarkable discoveries. First: African blacks were not uptight about race; and second: it was obvious to them that whites were ‘cleverer’ and they made no bones about it.
It is whites who feel guilty about this and blame themselves for black failure. Shrewd blacks use this ‘guilt’ to blackmail, browbeat and bamboozle whites.
This sham anger is a principal weapon of psychological warfare. It is used by women against men, blacks against whites, homosexuals against straights and islam against the West – though always with the help of the (alleged) wrong-doers.
The psychology here is:: Since our enemies hate us, we must have done something wrong; perhaps if we are nice to them they won’t hate us so much. In fact however, such appeasement always fails because it shows weakness and breeds contempt.
Without ‘guilt’ the con game of sham anger wouldn’t work. Unless Muslims saw a willing victim, their ‘rage’ wouldn’t exist because they would know that it would fail. ‘Guilt’ is the glove into which the fist of ‘anger’ fits.
Racial guilt and the consequent unwillingness to speak honestly about racial differences has led directly to the ultimate disaster of a Muslim president who hates America.”
Wilhelm 1
February 29th, 2012 1:02am Report this commentWhere ever African immigrants go in the world whether it's America, Detroit, New Orleans, Los Angeles, England, France, Holland, or Haiti. Africans bring anarchy, mayhem, chaos, riots and the society is destroyed.
They are a triple threat, High Crime Rates, High Birth Rates, Low IQs
If we lived in a truly multicultural society, How come I don't see native Americans on the bus ? but I see Africans.
Why is it I don't see Australian aborigines in my local supermarket ? but I see Africans.
Why is it I don't see New Zealand Maoris in my neighbourhood ? but I see Africans.
It seems that Native Americans, Australian Aborigines, New Zealand Maoris are proud people and don't want to leave their native land. On the other hand one has to presume the African is a parasite and a free loader. Why else are they here for ?
Why do you think immigrants come to our country in the first instance ? because we're a bunch of mugs and suckers, easily manipulated and conned do gooders,
The Liberal, Labour philosophy seems to be " If people are friendly they must be OK.'' I think the Trojan Horse is friendly, see how friendly it is in 10 years.
Our towns and cities have become ghetto's full of crime, which is the logical outcome of The Third World Invasion
Ps. There is only ONE reason to to leave a country, it's the same reason RATS leave a sinking ship, Hey, I wonder why the Swiss don't immigrate to Somalia ?
Ruby Duck
February 29th, 2012 1:26am Report this commentArthur
February 28th, 2012 5:20pm
"People on inter-company transfers aren't taking jobs from people who are already here"
Indeed. In most cases the contracts to supply IT labour were in place 10 or more years ago.
They denied a hundred thousand or more youngsters the chance of training in IT/telecoms, depressed the earnings of those already in the business, and drove highly skilled British contractors abroad.
What I really can't figure out is how it's cheaper to employ three of them where we used to make do with one bloody-minded hard-drinking Brit.
Malfleur
February 29th, 2012 1:54am Report this commentNeather - Nelson
Antidote: http://www.coffeehousewall.co.uk/
daniel maris
February 29th, 2012 2:16am Report this commentWilhelm -
Your usual pathetic nonsense. If I had been around here in 100AD I would have said "It's obvious these Romans are clever than us."
Had I been around 1500 years later -in the age of Bacon, Shakespeare and Marlowe - I doubt I would have said the same thing...
Feel free to supply a racial rationale for that...
Colin Cumner
February 29th, 2012 3:50am Report this commentAfter visiting Britain last summer, in the midst of the London riots, I can well understand that the subject of mass immigration into the country raises such ire among Spectator readers. It borders on criminality that the former Labour Government allowed the unchecked influx of migrants, legal and illegal, into Britain, resulting in enormous social and infrastructure pressures arising from their lack of action. Sad, too, to see that the present Government is so slow to act on the issue. It is therefore of no surprise to me that the more radical parties of the Right are attracting increasing support among the indigenous population and I am sure that if I still permanently lived in the UK, I would be included in their number.
Wilhelm 1
February 29th, 2012 5:05am Report this commentI wish the lame stream media would stop using the words '' immigrate '' and '' immigration.'' The correct term is '' coloniser '' and '' colonisation.'' Europe is at war ( the African muslim invasion ) yet Europeans don't even realise it !!
There is two outcomes to mass immigration
A. Do nothing, let it continue and the white man WILL become a minority in his own country.
B. Vote UKIP, BNP, EDL and things WILL start changing overnight. I vote UKIP, I can go to my bed every night with a clear conscience and say '' I've done my bit.'' I can't do anything more.
I suspect A will prevail because Cultural Marxism is now the state religion where it's a crime to voice an opinion on a tram and the media has a chimp out when Saurez doesn't shake hands with a black football player.
The people are now so paralysed with fear, they're afraid to speak out about anything. So England is going to go the same way as the Ancient Romans, Greeks, Aztecs, Inca's and Mayans.
Archie
February 29th, 2012 7:23am Report this commentThis article is an unbeatable example why I'm not to be found much hereabouts anymore! Hard to believe that the likes of Mark Steyn once flourished here. If I wanted this fucking shite I'd read The Guardian.
Dave Mitchell
February 29th, 2012 8:32am Report this commentWell said Halcyondaze. Couldn't have put it better myself!
Wilhelm 1
February 29th, 2012 8:41am Report this commentMaris
Did I grant you permission to address me ? In the highly unlikely event that I would, kindly address me as Sir until I say other wise. I am not REMOTELY interested in your justification for excusing Black criminal behaviour. Good day. And with that, you're dismissed.
Ps. Those who don't know about Dan Maris, this joker supports African immigration out of vanity “ Mirror, mirror on the wall, who’s the most open-minded of them all ? ”
It’s a beauty contest for bored liberals who use immigrants as a mirror to reflect their own inflated egos, a sport where they can nurse their vanity in the mistaken belief that denigrating your own cultural heritage is a sign of goodness and lack of prejudice.
And that's Maris to a T.
Colin Cumner
February 29th, 2012 8:51am Report this commentARCHIE - hang in there my friend. The allure of the Left (for those who succumbed to it) is fast fading now throughout a good deal of the Western world, thus proving there is a God after all.
Halcyondaze
February 29th, 2012 11:05am Report this commentWilhelm - as ever you have the courage to say what few others will. I don't agree with everything you say - but you are to be commended for your bravery.
Like you I will be voting UKIP from now on.
As for the Spectator - well it's clear what's happening here. It's in the grip of the same ilk that now infest the Conservative Party - weak, Cameron-adoring, arse-kissing leftists. The very fact that so many of it's readers are so disappointed and appalled by it should surely say it all. But just as Cameron so contemptuously ignores his voters, so the Spectator contemptuously ignores its core readership.
Where are the principled articles on the scandals of the EU, immigration, law and order, the deliberate destruction of Britishness etc? All we get is this tripe from the likes of Cavanagh which would be better placed in the Guardian.
I recommend everyone here to read STANDPOINT and sign up to the brilliant Melanie Phillips website. There is a journalist who tells it like it is - and the Spectator let her go...
Mr Danger 1
February 29th, 2012 11:05am Report this comment"Do you think that European workers, with kids, a home, a car etc can compete with young single Indians, who pay sod all tax, contribute nothing to the economy, have their accomodation provided, eat communal meals etc."
I know who I'd hire, and it isn't the angry racist.
Swiss Bob
February 29th, 2012 11:24am Report this commentMr Danger,
You can piss off too with your pathetic smear (must be a Labour party member).
M62
February 29th, 2012 11:32am Report this comment" I know who I'd hire and it isn't the angry racist"..........No you'd hire the cheapest option & sod Britain's young talent..... Exactly why we are where we are now, make sure your pockets are lined before any other consideration.
Fergus Pickering
February 29th, 2012 11:39am Report this commentIt all depends what bit of Britain you visit, Mr Cumner. There are very few black or Muslim people in Scotland for instance. The Government sent a few up there about ten years ago but they buggered off sharpish. Come to that I can walk about Canterbury and the first black face I see will probably belong to a public school boy or a student. On the other hand if I travel south for about fifteen miles and get to Dover, another picture entirely. Inner London is full of foreigners, always was, but you can stroll about Wimbledon or Eton and Riverside and... why it might be fifty years ago, except much nicer.
Rhoda Klapp
February 29th, 2012 11:46am Report this comment"they buggered off sharpish"
Fergus, is that a sly reference to the Glasgow anthem 'Cod liver oil and the orange juice' or a mere coincidence.
Halcyondaze
February 29th, 2012 11:50am Report this commentFergus Pickering -
Sorry, but that's crap about Scotland. Have you been to Glasgow or Edinburgh lately? Have you seen the large and growing Muslim populations in those cities - even having the audacity to be taking over the shops that sell traditional Scottish tartan and memorabilia? The same thing is happening in every town and city. Of course there are still places where you don't "see a black face" (as if this is somehow de facto a terrible thing!) but those places tend to be ever-decreasing enclaves for the hypocritical rich.
Nicholas
February 29th, 2012 12:18pm Report this commentMr Danger 1 - nasty. But typical. It's exactly the attitude that has brought us here.
Watch and learn as these unlimited immigration policies mature and even people like you, and your family, are affected by them. I can assure you that you won't have to be racist then to be angry about them. Unfortunately 1 and 1 do not yet add up to 2 in the minds of the politicians responsible. So that those advocating mass immigration are also somehow worried about future burdens on the NHS, on infrastructure and on food and power supplies without, apparently, connecting the two issues. We live on a relatively small island with a large and relatively dense population. The provision of future power is already a challenge. The transport infrastructure is already crap. Food creation resources are already being diverted under subsidy to green energy. We have already seen the first manifestations of sectarian tension and violence. A marginalised and alienated immigrant youth population is already succumbing to extremist agitation. But you carry on cramming more people in as fast as you can. You'll learn.
Angry racists will be the last of your problems then, pal.
Sylva
February 29th, 2012 12:22pm Report this commentAgain I am baffle with some of these bullshit articles and comments on immigration.
The simple truth is efficiency of labour is the preoccupation of any employer. Hope it makes some sense.
Secondly the ability to carry out duties which works hands in gloves with efficiency is very much absent amongst the Brits.
So no employer even British employer will dare waste their energy and put their enterprise at risk by employing Brits whos efficiency lies on numerous coffee breaks, cigarette smoking and calling off sick to destroyed their empires.
Employers will go for foreigners who in some cases might be cheap and efficient. Than expensive and inefficient.
So stop whinging and up your game so as to compete in the employment market
It doesn't add up...
February 29th, 2012 12:49pm Report this commentOnly 30,000 here on ITC visas? I think not: that's just the number who are here on LONG TERM visas - i.e. over 1 year. There are plenty more who are shunted in and out on a rolling annual basis who escape being measured by the statistics. That's before we look at the abuse of student visas for similar purposes.
Archie
February 29th, 2012 1:19pm Report this commentNicholas: you forgot to mention water shortages. Perpetual hose pipe ban, anyone?
Ken Lorp
February 29th, 2012 1:26pm Report this commentAt first, we thought this would be a problem for our business, but we got around it by setting up companies overseas to employ the skilled graduates we needed. Then we discovered that they were better and harder working than a great many of the people we employed here, so we started sacking our UK employees and growing the overseas businesses more. As overseas tax rates and regulations are significantly lower than the UK, we're saving a lot of money in the process! This really is a win-win for a great many UK businesses as long as you know how to harness it.
Wilhelm 1
February 29th, 2012 5:50pm Report this commentHalcyondaze
Thanks for that, did you you read the article ?
'' The Logic of Black People Explained '' by Gedaliah Braun
Wilhelm 1
February 29th, 2012 6:08pm Report this commentThe Barclay Brothers who own the Spectator, they love multiculturalism and mass immigration, they love it soo much they've done everything to live as far away from blacks and muslims as possible. Some people might say there hypocrites.
They live on Brecqhou near Sark. Check out their castle on the internet which they recently built.
peejay
February 29th, 2012 9:07pm Report this commentSo, "immigrants make a major contribution to our economy."
Can someone therefore please answer this simple question:-- How on earth did we manage to be one of the wealthiest countries in the world before Labour introduced mass immigration in 1998?
peejay
February 29th, 2012 9:28pm Report this commentSo,"immigrants make a major contribution to our economy".
Could someone therefore answer this very simple question:-- How did Britain manage to be one of the wealthiest countries in the world before Labour started mass immigration in 1998?
Please give me a logical answer -- I won't hold my breath though.
peejay
February 29th, 2012 9:40pm Report this commentSo "immigrants make a major contribution to our economy".
Can someone therefore please answer this question rationally:-- How on earth did Britain manage to become one of the wealthiest countries in the world before Labour introduced mass immigration in 1998?
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