So how much do you really like The Smiths, Dave?
Sebastian Payne 2:38pm
David Cameron's love of The Smiths has been tested numerous times, in the press, in person and at PMQs. But today, there's new dimension to the saga. Johnny Marr, the group's former guitarist,
has announced he will delight fans and reform the band - but only if the Prime Minister steps down:
As a dedicated fan, it's certainly a tough call for Dave to make. Heaven knows, he must be miserable now.'We won't be reforming this week. Maybe if the government stepped down. If this government stepped down, I'll reform the band. How's that? That's a fair trade, isn't it? I think the country would be better off, don't you? I'll do it if the coalition steps down.'



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Nicholas
March 1st, 2012 2:50pm Report this commentOur Parliament and our Prime Minister has come to this? I suppose it is inevitable in the melding of politicians, celebrities and the media into a kind of hegemony, an elite that robs ordinary people of their voice or pretends to speak for them.
Robson
March 1st, 2012 2:53pm Report this commentHe should stick to playing jangly guitar riffs - spoken like a true champagne socialist
Percy
March 1st, 2012 3:01pm Report this commentPerhaps Johnny Marr would give Dave a pair of the limited edition Ray Bans he is currently flogging, the old sell out!
REPay
March 1st, 2012 3:04pm Report this commentOur journos love the celeb stuff because they are walk on players in that world...(The Smiths are the most overrated band though Marr is an excellent guitarist. I suspect Dave is really a Floyd and Genesis fan but was advised to sound more contemporary on DID to his youth...it is at least more credible than GB claiming to like the Artic Monkeys.)
telemachus'
March 1st, 2012 3:04pm Report this commentGordan would never have stood for this. He was not only a sound economist but of impeccable Presbyterian Morals.At last I can agree with the 2.50 poster even if I am wished ill elsewhere.
toco
March 1st, 2012 3:05pm Report this commentIt is a fundamental mistake to return to the party having left and finding your previous night's hosts with massive hangovers,picking up the broken glasses and staring numbly at the wine stained carpets.So Mr. Marr I counsel you not to return and just accept that your particular party is over.
Jeremy
March 1st, 2012 3:10pm Report this commentI hope to God 'The Smiths' don't reform. I grew well and truly sick of their precious miserabilism long before the eighties ended. And I don't want it back, thank you.
And since when did these flimsy celebrities morph into great political philosophers? Since never, that's when.
Axstane
March 1st, 2012 3:13pm Report this commentSome of us are a bit sick of bumptious rock musicians and two-bit comedians sticking their entirely uneducated oars into political debate.
Do any of us care if the Smiths are reformed or abolished or disintegrated?
Should politicians announce that they agree with the policies of all aged rockers, punks, druggies or whatever claim to fame these "celebrities" have? So, sod off Mr. Marr or Maher.
DavidDP
March 1st, 2012 3:28pm Report this comment"Gordan would never have stood for this"
No, his favourite band was the Arctic Monkeys, if I recall. Not sure if that was stated in the Pier Morgan TV interview or from another interview before that.
ed Lebanon
March 1st, 2012 3:37pm Report this commentOne suspects that a certain Steven Patrick Morrissey would have some further, even less likely demands of his own before a reformation took place. The Smiths were the greatest British band since the Beatles and, like that band, they split up at the height of their powers and popularity. Don't sully the legacy, chaps.
Axstane
March 1st, 2012 3:38pm Report this commentTele
"Gordan" was a great fan of the Arctic Monkeys he told us. But then he knew more about them and the History of the Labour Party in Scotland than he did of economics.
Keith
March 1st, 2012 3:48pm Report this commentCameron should just have said that the Smiths embody all the qualities that Conservatives applaud: through a combination of hard work, initiative and free enterprise they've made a huge amount of money in the music industry. They may not like the Conservatives but the Conservatives have no reason not to like them.
idle
March 1st, 2012 3:57pm Report this commentThis may be the only good reson for Cameron to remain in power. Christ, the Smiths were awful. Marr was a reasonable guitarist, but like U2, any hope for the rest of the band was dashed by a ludicrous frontman who could neither sing nor pen a lyric.
Tiberius
March 1st, 2012 3:59pm Report this commentThe term guitarist is synonymous with some element of musicianship, so why it is applied to someone from the Smiths goodness only knows.
David Ossitt
March 1st, 2012 4:07pm Report this commentI see that one of the house trolls (the one without a capital letter to his name) is still attempting to catch the unwary with the same bait as he invariably uses.
It does get very tiresome.
I never liked Morrissey in the past; now I detest the man.
Biggestaspidistra
March 1st, 2012 4:13pm Report this commentLet Blur (and Noel G.) be a warning to the Smiths.
Master Cobbett
March 1st, 2012 4:34pm Report this commentI'm rather tired of respectable magazines and papers giving space for the vacuous political posturings of people like this Marr individual ( honestly I can claim never to having previously heard of him). to hear what that guitar stumming creep, something Waters, things about the Falkland Islands and Mrss Thatcher put me in a bad enough mood this morning, and now this. Please Spectator people if you are going to provide us what musicians think of matters political, then make sure that they have someting interesting to say--and some intelligence to support what they're saying. Have you ever observed just how utterly stupid a grown man looks when he is playing the electric guitar in public .
smell the glove
March 1st, 2012 4:36pm Report this commentI've got a better idea. Why cant the vastly over-rated, preening, millionare, retire and give someone else a chance? Hasbeen. This goes up to eleven!
SJH
March 1st, 2012 5:13pm Report this commentLet's not forget the ludicrous and cringeworthy claim by Gordon Brown that he was a fan of the Arctic Monkeys, none of whose songs he could name.
What a woeful man.
The present Prime Minister's tastes are genuinely pop culture. Which I also find dispiriting.
Andy Carpark
March 1st, 2012 5:26pm Report this commentDavid Cameron is a man of many talents. He not only plays air guitar, he also used to play the drums - on biscuit tins. The records suggest that these were his main youthful interests apart from climbing (and perhaps even pulling) greasy poles.
salieri
March 1st, 2012 5:39pm Report this commentJ'en ai marre? Qui est-il, quand il est chez lui? Bien je jamais. Frappez une lumière. Epierrez les corbeaux. Soddez cela pour un jeu de soldats.
At next week's PMQ: the Prime Minister declares a secret passion for Stockhausen...
Andy Carpark
March 1st, 2012 6:00pm Report this commentsalieri - Regardez le Cameron. Je crois qu'il souvent frappe le singe - comme onaniste professionel, hein?
Mirtha Tidville
March 1st, 2012 7:10pm Report this commentWho the hell are these Smiths....never heard of em...
Yosemite Sam
March 1st, 2012 7:38pm Report this commentWho are the Smiths? Do they have any connection to the great Bessie Smith?
WIlliam Blakes Ghost
March 1st, 2012 7:49pm Report this commentWho cares what some aging rock luvvy has-been thinks anyway. Within the ranks of the parasite classes, celebrities and those in the entertainment business are truly at the bottom of the food chain.
Jon Stack
March 1st, 2012 8:11pm Report this commentIt's clear now that we need far reaching and fundamental reform of the Smiths. Thanks for the offer johnny.
salieri
March 1st, 2012 8:22pm Report this commentParking Pratique:
J’ai l’impression que notre Premier Ministre ne vous plaise pas trop. C’est à cause de son inconstance politique ou de ses prétentions populacières?
Quoi qu’il en soit, mon ami, ayez donc pitié du singe. Il est peut-être professionel, lui aussi. En revanche, en ce qui concerne la culture (ou pour mieux dire son manque de culture) rappelez-vous du mot de La Rochefoucauld: Rien n’empêche tant d’être naturel que l’envie de le paraître.
HFC
March 1st, 2012 9:49pm Report this commentsalieri. Sept sur dix. Vous devez prêter plus d'attention à la grammaire et à la syntaxe svp. Mais bons sentiments que je partage.
TrevorsDen
March 1st, 2012 10:57pm Report this commentSo musicians and comedians and other artists have veto over who likes their act?
Dimoto
March 2nd, 2012 12:11am Report this commentOne Marr poluting the air waves is more than enough.
Tron
March 2nd, 2012 12:38am Report this commentPretentious, moi?
telemachus'
March 2nd, 2012 6:53am Report this commentGordon liked the Arctic Monkeys because of the album "Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not"
Dave of course is all things to all men like Tony
Sir Everard Digby
March 2nd, 2012 7:07am Report this commentSo,the political classes and their media happily listen to a few (and I use the next word advisedly) 'celebrities' and believe it enhances their credibility. I have news for them - they would have far more credibility if they listened to the wider population.
Do they seriously think that Parliamentary time is best served discussing this irrelevance? Or was this a meeting of the Bovine Scatology committee?
Sebastian Payne
March 2nd, 2012 9:07am Report this commentFor those who are wondering who or what The Smiths are, see the last link in the post. Should you give a good impression of the PM's favourite band.
salieri
March 2nd, 2012 10:05am Report this commentHFC:
Sorry, can't help it, I shouldn't even have started it and Tron's rebuke is fair comment - but what grammatical or syntactical errors lost me your three marks? Surely you don't object to the subjunctive?
Jeremy
March 2nd, 2012 11:44am Report this commentTrevorsDen:
"So musicians and comedians and other artists have a veto over who likes their act?"
You make a good point. For all of their drug-addled socialist posturing, I have never yet known one of 'em to turn down my money.
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