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Brown tells Sarkozy that he'll plough on with ratification regardless

James Forsyth 12:54pm

Mark Mardell has just reported that Gordon Brown has phoned Nicolas Sarkozy and told him that he would continue with ratification even if the Irish vote no. One wonders what part of 'no' these people don't understand.

Brown is in a total pickle here. The Irish no is going to revive anger in this country about being denied the referendum that all three political parties promised us. Brown's personal ratings are about to take another battering.

Hat Tip: Open Europe 

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Tina

June 13th, 2008 1:00pm Report this comment

But is Cameron going to stand up to Brown on this or are the conservatives totally distracted by all the Davis nonsense.

Pete

June 13th, 2008 1:05pm Report this comment

Just shows what he, and Labour, really think of democracy!!!

Eurosceptic

June 13th, 2008 1:18pm Report this comment

Disgusting, but I am not going to count on David Cameron standing up for us voters.

Pete

June 13th, 2008 1:23pm Report this comment

Browns attitude shows why David Davis is right and that we should all be worried.

cuffleyburgers

June 13th, 2008 1:28pm Report this comment

The final confirmation (if 'twere needed) that Mr Brown has completely lost his marbles.

David C

June 13th, 2008 1:29pm Report this comment

Brown understands 'No' but he's not interested.
He probably thinks the Irish Referendum was a 'Stunt' or a 'Farce'.

Democracy - just something for the 'common people'.

Tiberius

June 13th, 2008 1:34pm Report this comment

Cameron will continue to oppose the Treaty, and this issue will now come back to the fore, which is just where the Tories want it, not least because it keeps the pygmies at the Sun off their backs.

Brown will renew his self-destruct tendency (10p tax, botched election, u-turn on the referendum) by ignoring the Irish vote which is going to reignite this matter in the eyes of the electorate.

Steve Garner

June 13th, 2008 1:36pm Report this comment

Well there you go then. It looks like David Davis is absolutely right about this Government being authoritarian.

Travis Bickle

June 13th, 2008 1:52pm Report this comment

The new definition of Democracy seems to be making decisions on behalf of the public because they can't understand the issues.

Rather similar to dictatorship really.

Kevyn Bodman

June 13th, 2008 1:52pm Report this comment

The Davis resignation is not nonsense.
If Cameron can't deal with the Irish 'NO' at the same time as the Davis case then he shouldn't be offering himself as a potential PM.
Get Hague in front of the cameras, yesterday he moved up from being the 2nd best member of the Shadow Cabinet.

It is essential to confront Brown on this.And there is no excuse if Cameron and his team don't do it.

Dave B

June 13th, 2008 1:53pm Report this comment

They can't do that surely? If Lisbon fails in one country, it fails in all. Isn't that how it goes?

Perry says - Pah!! To Prudence

June 13th, 2008 2:04pm Report this comment

What a stupid little twerp!

However, provides yet more grist to DD if he chooses to use it. Will he though?

Would DC? No, really, - would he? Or is it all just words?

David C

June 13th, 2008 2:11pm Report this comment

Ah, young Dave B. The things you have to learn...
Nip across to guido's and have a look there.
It's in the Blog Roll, lad.
Make sure you don't come back with any nasty language; this is a respectable blog.
Off you go.
And be careful!

Paul

June 13th, 2008 2:13pm Report this comment

The Sun is in a bit of a bind now. Opposing David Davis (and supporting Gordon brown) but virulently anti- Europe (thus opposing Gordon Brown).
How delicious
best all round if they stick to Big brother politics from now on.
Well done the Irish

Rob

June 13th, 2008 2:18pm Report this comment

If they do this then it is obvious to all that integrity and democracy are not on the agenda and Britain should be removed from this shambles immediately. The fact that Pennywise is smack bang in the middle of it means he needs to go now and take that despicable party with him.

TomTom

June 13th, 2008 2:23pm Report this comment

Brown cannot allow "false consciousness" on the part of the proletariat to stand in the way of the dictatorship of the proletariat.

Only by following the Will of The Vanguard of the Proletariat can the disjoint between popular perceptions and historical necessity be reconciled.

This is the mantra which races around Brown's grey matter, that he must ignore the vox populi and pursue historic necessity and objective reality

Nicholas

June 13th, 2008 3:08pm Report this comment

Kevyn Bodman: "The Davis resignation is not nonsense. If Cameron can't deal with the Irish 'NO' at the same time as the Davis case then he shouldn't be offering himself as a potential PM.
Get Hague in front of the cameras, yesterday he moved up from being the 2nd best member of the Shadow Cabinet.

It is essential to confront Brown on this.And there is no excuse if Cameron and his team don't do it."

Spot on. I am disappointed in the Tory response to this and DD. They just don't seem to fight - which is probably why DD has done what he has done.

TomTom: "This is the mantra which races around Brown's grey matter, that he must ignore the vox populi and pursue historic necessity and objective reality"

Well he was quoting the (alleged) vox populi on 42 days so he seems to want his cake and eat it. Or should that be swill rather than cake?

The Laughing Cavalier

June 13th, 2008 3:35pm Report this comment

The Irish Justice Minister, Dermot Ahern, conceding defeat for the Irish government in a 'No' vote, said "A referendum is the essence of democracy". What, one wonders are the chances of McNumpty taking heed of this singular truism?

DW

June 13th, 2008 4:06pm Report this comment

This result is one Cameron can exploit. Go for it Dave.
Let the Tories be the party that stands up against authoritarianism. This is the mood of the moment (c/f Davis).
Wow, what a week for Westminster. What will the Sundays go on at the week end?

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