Tell Brown to abandon ratification

Prentia Clove

Um... sorry to be a wet blanket, but under what system is the prime minister of the UK required to respect the result of a referendum held in another nation? Surely that is the sort of thing that anti-europeans should be, well, anti.

thomas

Under the terms of the Lisbon treaty Prentia.

C Powell

What's more when the French and Dutch voted No to the Constitution, Blair abandoned a referendum here because there was nothing to ratify. The Constitution was dead. The same is now the case with the Lisbon Treaty. It's only the refusal of the Euro-elites to understand how democracy works or their determination to ignore the law which is making them ignore this. The European project has reached the regrettabl position where people are being forced to choose between "Europe" (as currently constructed) or democracy.

David C

The Euro-elites are nothing of the sort.
It would do well to debunk this myth perpetuated by politicians that they are somehow 'better' than everybody else.

You can witness this behaviour every day of the week.
You stop a small child reaching for the sweets, only to turn around
a short time later to see the child reaching out again while they think you weren't looking.
The Eurofanatics know there are rules. Rules that were bought and paid for in blood. But they still seek to ignore them, and in doing so they imperil us all.

Frank Pulley

Why keep calling them Euro 'elites'? They are Eurocrooks!

Prentia Clove

Thomas, so the treaty (has anyone actually read the blessed thing?) states that in the event that one member state fails to ratify the ratification process in the other member states stops at that point does it? I doubt it somehow.

cuffleyburgers

Prentia

It states quite explicitly that in order to come into force it has to be ratified by all 27 signatories.

That is why they wanted to prevent us having a referendum here. Fortunately they were unable to prevent a referendum in Ireland and anyway it didn't seem to matter because they were sure the Irish would behave like good little europeans, but just to be sure back in February they did pass a motion in the EU parliament promising to ignore the outcome of the referendum, or more accurately I think they failed to pass a motion promising to respect it, which is not quite the same thing.

What that means is that ratification no longer has any meaning since the treaty by law cannot come into force.

However our self-styled lords and masters seem determined to cock a snook at the legal aspects of it, and the whole thing could get very messy.