Brown delays ratification of the Lisbon Treaty

TomTom

"has been signed by the Queen. "

Have to do better than that I'm afraid. I doubt The Queen makes her own postage stamps or banknotes either....Royal Assent has not been given by a British Monarch since 1854.....it is The Speaker and Leader of The Lords who give Royal Assent

The Glaswegian Martin has more power to withhold Assent than the lady living in Buck House

mitch

Lets hope they get lost in the post.

Trumpeter Lanfried

My prediction: The C of A, while declining to enforce the manifesto promise will nonetheless rule that the Treaty is essentially the Constitution, purposely re-written to make it less comprehensible. In other words, the Government lied.

Liz Brown

and no doubt, he will sign it in a darkened room long after the other corrupt Leaders have fled the scene of the crime

David C

Will he have to return his 'Hero of the European Union' medal?

He'll be inconsoleable.

Ann

"In other words, the Government lied"

No! How dare you! The glorious leader MacPinnochio never lies!

Chuck Unsworth

What the hell does Brown mean 'fits in with [the Government's] timetable? Is he now of the view that the justice system is there to do his bidding?

Probably he is.

Pete Hoskin

TomTom: I'm aware of that - was just using a common expression.

Have changed it to avoid misunderstanding.

Georgia

And who is stands up for British self-determination in this sorry hole-in-the-corner treason?

Would that the Queen would withhold her assent. It would convert instantly this lifelong republican into an experiential but vocal royalist.

Hysteria

So Royal Assent doesn't actually mean HM signs it? It's just a figure of speech?

Another long held belief shattered :(

Martin Cole

Tom Tom denies the Queen has assented.

In these extraordinary circumstances she could hardly have been unaware of the travesty to be undertaken in her name as the plans were made perfectly clear in the Commons the day before the Lords vote.

A monarch could therefore have made it clear that consent was withheld pending clarification of the Irish situation and Mr Wheeler's court proceedings.

Pete

I have always thought of the monarchy as patriarchal overseer that never gets directly involved but quietly, behind the scenes, steered a steady path keeping wayward Governments in check.

The will of the people is well known and is easily tested, yet the monarch has 'allowed' this discredited Government to sign away even more of our rights and freedoms.

If we get swallowed up into a European Superstate, the questions I would like to pose are:

Why are we paying so much money to a monarchy that doesn't serve any useful purpose when it is needed?

Why are we paying so much money to a House of Lords that won't ensure that the Goverment represents the will of the people?

Why do we need all these overpaid prima donna politicians when nearly all our laws are made in the EU?

Thomas Norrell

Which part of "NO" does the British Parliament not understand about the Irish Vote on the Lisbon Treaty? It is appauling for Mr Brown or indeed anyone to even suggest going ahead with British ratification when quite clearly the resulting "NO" vote from Ireland has (as originally agreed) finished completely, the Lisbon Treaty for ALL 27 Nations. In other words, now we have Mr Brown (and others) pressing on with further ratification on behalf of the UK which has been denied the democratic reforendum promised in the Labour manifesto, and indeed promised by Mr Brown personally. At the same time, Mr Brown condems (and justly so) Mr Magabe for not allowing the Zimbabwe people their right to vote democratically. Whilst there may be some differences between these two situations, nevertheless the end result is the same - people are being denied their democratic rights. I challenge the British Government and Mr Brown in particular, to do the honest and democratic thing - accept the Irish Vote and the consequences of it and stop pussy-footing around trying to wangle other methods of further ratification reducing our British principles, law, and Sovereignty. It is a fundamental nonsense to even suggest that our Sovereignty would not be eroded by the Lisbon Treaty (or whatever other contrived name it might come under in the future). Wise up and take heed to the democratic vote of the Irish people.

john cross

what planet is brown living on
does'nt he understand what no means. as found in the nice treaty, this means the lisbon treaty cannot come into effect. the rules for ratification of lisbon treaty are clear. to change the rules when your losing is a violation of the rule of law. respect for the rule of law is even more important than fate of the lisbon treaty.
yours sincerely
j cross

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