Mandela on Mugabe

Ann

Oh, this sad little man has finally found his voice? What a joke he is.

Fabio P.Barbieri

Very diplomatic, but the content cannot be missed, especially as he associates it with the murderous assaults on Zimbabwean refugees in South Africa. He is attacking the victimization of Zimbabweans by their own government and by South Africans. Thank God for that, it was needed.

Augustus

Only God can remove him - remember?

Frank Pulley

As I said on another thread, they've wheeled him out of the geriatric ward to denounce his comrade, because none of the current incumbents want to put the boot in. Even then it was something of a tepid imprecation. "Lack of Leadership!"

Lack of f*****g leadership?? Since when did wholesale murder, mayhem, rape, pillage, corruption, vote rigging, intimidation, torture, and tyrannical insane meglomaniac ranting get dealt with by an indictment for 'lack of leadership'?

Dib! Dib! f****g Dib! It's not cricket, Sir (rtd) Robert! He'll be accused of farting in church if you wait long enough for his African bretheren to deal with him. Did we need yet another example of the complete impotence of the United Nations as a peace keeping force?

Stop all aid and freeze all his assets abroad. And prosecute any multinational that invests in Zimbabwe while he is in power.

Chris

The feet of clay of this man continue to flake and crumble when the heat is turned up.

No-one can deny his importance to the demise of apartheid. But why is Mandela so lionised? Remember - in view of the Spectator's cover this week and Anthony Gormley proposals for the fourth plinth, that there were those who were seriously advocating (I believe Comrade Leninstone was among them) that a statue of Madela be placed in there. Outside South Africa House perhaps - but as a cornerstone of our national public space?

His speech could just as much be interpreted (by those such as Mugabe) as an attack on Tsvangarai's leadership. The words' Robert Mugabe' are conspicuous in their absence in this condemnation.

Remember Mandela's myopia when it came to Winnie and her necklace proposals not to mention her connections to the 'Mandela Football Team' - a murder gang?

An important figure - undoubtedly. A collosus on the world stage? I'm not convinced.

And why does he keep on coming here to be fawned over by Sting et al? Can't they do this in Johannesburg?

THX1138

Ann- Why don't you loose your voice who would care?

Mandela strides the world people listen he spent 27 years in jail for what he believes in and you make snide "oh so clever " little comments on a hardly read blog, how sad is that? What a joke you are.

I enjoy this blog & put up with a lot of abuse from you lot with good humour but sometimes . Ahh what's the point enjoy your hate it's probably the only pleasure you get.

mckenzie

Ground breaking speech. That should do the trick.
I could never imagine me going to Africa, it just has no appeal. Somebody just walked over my grave.

Brad Brzezinski

Rather a pathetic condemnation from the man who repeatedly insulted George W. Bush and Tony Blair: no foresight, committing a holocaust, all for oil, racist etc etc.

THX1138: Mandela has his limitations. He has exhibited them so thoroughly as to cast a pall on his achievements, especially as South Africa too, is a dismal mess and becoming worse by the day. You're allowed to be disappointed in him. I am.

Ann

Mr Numberplate, you are living in a delusional cloud if you think that I'll stop posting just because a sad nonentity like you doesn't like what I have to say.
I notice that you keep coming to this blog. It's you who is the joke. And you can't read, little man.
Mandela is an idiot. His 'political' pronouncements on a whole range of subjects exhibit ignorance and blinkered stupidity. X number of years in jail are quite irrelevant here.

Rex Burr

How long will we have to wait for serious condemnation of events in Zimbabwe from our fellows in the rest of Europe, with whom we are supposed to share a common foreign policy.

Nicholas

There will be a ghastly jamboree by the BBC and the pop posse. Meanwhile Africa remains a dysfunctional continent full of, with one or two honourable exceptions, corruption, dictators, murderous regimes, warlords, tribal warfare, brigandry, poverty, injustice and famine.

So much better since the nasty old colonialists left.

THX1138

Ann- What entity are you? All you are is a spiteful blog bully on a far flung corner of the interweb.

Chuck Unsworth

Mandela is merely a pathetic figure, now being used by second rate politicians to further their own particular aims.

He is a spent force. He's hardly even a cypher, these days. Times have moved on, the old regimes have been replaced by the new.

The reality is that the hopes and dreams of many South Africans have also been ground into the dust by the venality and sheer incompetence of the Mbeki 'government'.

john kamau

Ann,

I am genuinely curious. Why do you hate Mandela so much?

Nicholas

Travel out of Dagenham much?

The rest of you. As you were.

CG

The term fart arse comes to mind after this latest speech by the 'world's favourite statesman'

Nicholas

John Kamau: Never been in Dagenham in my life but have been all over the world so that trite little comment of yours is meaningless.

CG

John Kamau - I don't think that anyone here hates Mandela. What they dislike is the sycophancy which is displayed towards him, far more than his achievements deserve.

Augustus

Quite right, Mandela was one of the more malleable blacks, tempered, no doubt, by a lifetime of reading behind bars. But it was de Klerk who eventually turned the key, and set him free. I say, eventually, because for a long time the place was crawling with Cuban mercenaries recruited by the ANC.

Frank Pulley

It is utterly contemptuous that hordes of British people are gulled by, and have canonised, a Marxist who has encouraged other Marxist tyrants in the African continent to rip off their own people more comprehensively than any colonialist regime that preceded his plastic sainthood. Great age and cunning stoicism in stir is not worthy of plaudits, it was inimical to the West in general and to SA in particular.

Mandela is a milch cow for the pop industry, luvvies in general and an icon for the socialist rabble that (for the time being) rule this fast declining country. Hyde Park tonight was a sordid demonstration, to the rest of the world, of the weakness and gullibilty that has beset a once great and benificent empire. And for such a jamboree to happen on a day when one of his tyrannical and evil comrades demonstrated to the world the weakness of Western civilisation by a dastardly act of piracy: the murderous theft of a nation, is despicable. Wake up you British lemmings, you're on the edge of a cliff and it's crumbling.

Frank Pulley

I should have, of course, used 'contemptible' rather than 'contemptuous' in the first line of my last comment but in a way, both adjectives apply, even though the latter is (rather like me) obsolete.

Lin W

Does anyone remember the 'Church Street Bombing ' ? Nelson Mandela approved this & told black children to burn down their schools....There are more atrocities but there are just too many to name. The world has forgotten just exactly what Mandela did.......