Labour's depressed MPs

Silent Hunter

Ah Good!

Some cheerful news for a change.

:O)

crown

If Glasgow East goes to the SNP then there must be a good chance that Gordon Brown's own seat is not safe. I cannot believe that the Labour party is so spineless that they cannot remove a leader, expecially as the knife weilder would be likely to be out of a job in 2 years anyway.

John

A collapse brought on by ZanuLab hubris and failure to understand that Brits don't tolerate tinpot tyrants. Couldn't happen to nicer slimeballs.

Paul B

More lucrative careers in business??? Surely no business would be foolish enough to employ misguided x Labour MPs, what added value would they bring. I hear the country is short of fruit pickers at present , due to the pound against the Euro.

cityboozer

"try to", "try to", "try to"

David C

Amazing.
These people are not even going to fight and so they doom their own party.
If they cared so much for their politics and their Party then as a last resort, they could call a vote of no confidence in the Prime Minister.
As the Ultimate Act, they could get off their backsides and physically evict Brown from No.10 - throw his belongings into the street!

(OK perhaps not. But how about a march by the PLP down to No.10? Barely a march goes past without some MP tagging along. Will they not band together to march for their beliefs?
Gesture politics I agree, but what a gesture! That would certainly make a public statement -imagine Labour MPs at the centre of cheering crowds). The saying is 'Desperate times call for desperate measures' or 'better to go out with a bang than a whimper'.

Yet their tragedy is that centre-left politics will not disappear. There will always be an opposition in a democracy, but it won't include the Labour Party.

mike

"If you want to get a sense for how demoralised Labour MPs are at the moment read John Kampfner in The Telegraph today" and to get a sense of how happy Labour MPs are read The Daily Mirror.

John de Finchley

"They know that something terrible is afoot: the collapse of centre-Left politics"

Bit of a nonsequitur there, surely?

mitch

And we should care because..... ?

Hugh

James, at the back of my mind is the thought that it is beneficial pensionswise to MPs to leave before being sacked by the Voters. Is there any truth in that?

TGF UKIP

What I haven't seen yet but daily expect to see is an article by someone prominent on the Labour Left saying basically that what is required is a massive cleansing defeat to drive a stake through the heart of New Labour.

The argument, which appears to me a valid one, is phoenix and ashes. Defeat on a 1983 scale or greater would certainly be seized on by the unions and a probable majority of constituency members as conclusive proof that the New Labour game of being pink Tories had failed completely and that Labour must return to its socialist roots.

With the right and suitably charismatic and media friendly Leader (why does my mind keep flicking back to Livingstone) this course could see Labour revitalized as an electoral course surprisingly quickly. Disaffected constituency members would return, the unions would provide major infrastructure and financial backing for what would be their party again and a Real Labour Party could count more than ever on the solid support of its best friend, the BBC.

emily

and the south east Regional organiser Powers has confirmed to close friends that the next election will be his last..

Ian C

Who can blame them? - we are all witnessing the ultimate demonstration of the futilty of socialism and its consequent death knell. It is killing itself off by its own self-defeating actions and the denial that there is any such thing as a 'unintended consequences'. The intellectual bankruptcy of the 'we know better than the voter' left is now being realised by the senior deputies of its last exponent in government.

Nicholas

The most delusional aspects of Lefties (like mike) are that:-

a) They believe the majority of the public support their views, even when the polls say otherwise; and

b) They still believe they can win the next GE (viz. Diane Abbot) because of their innate belief in their own moral superiority, the innate wickedness of anyone who dares to speak against them and the idea that they and only they have a right to govern.

That is probably why some Labour MPs are happy - or it could be the result of their managing to defeat expenses reform aided and abetted by 33 "progressive" government ministers.

I don't distinguish between the "centre-Left" (Lefties who pretend they are less extreme than they really are) and the real Left (Lefties who are subversive Trotskyites but pretend they are socialist idealists) because they are all as bad as each other and it will be a great day for this country when the Palace of Westminster sees the back of the last of them and we can get back to a truly British Liberal vs Conservative dialogue and reinstate the glorious Age of Reason. This of course will mean that a proportion of the Conservative Party will need to move over to the Liberals.

Because the fall of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact did not directly involve the British, those Lefties with a starry-eyed view of the hammer and sickle have continued to thrive here, especially as the cloaked protagonists for social engineering and "progressive policies" under the barmy auspices of the New Labour Experiment (1997-20??). That in itself was a basic re-invention of German national socialism (the closest political ideology I can think of to describe the propaganda obsessed, authoritarian, official-creating, pseudo-socialist cant of New Labour) with a hefty dose of anally-retentive circa 1960's East German statism for good measure. Both regimes involved cabals of arrogant self-serving degenerates indulging in an orgy of power for its own sake perpetrated under a thin veneer of socialist idealism. Very New Labour.

They have infested the mass-media, infected the civil services and connived at a population boom in local government through the creation of weird jobs worthy of the pen of Jonathan Swift.

Societies evolve, they are not manufactured by the Stalins and the Maos, a historical lesson that seems to be lost on Herr Braun and the other Lefty chumps in his ruinous cabinet.

damon

There's one reason why they might not. Don't ex-MPs get better financially rewarded if they lose their seat rather than simply stand down. In which case you are more likely to see them standing but hoping to lose to enable them to cash in. This hurt the Tories in 1997 where too many MPs saw the pay-off on the wall

Liz Brown

All together now "Awwwwwwwww diddums"!

Verity

"... the collapse of centre-Left politics."

The only place you find centre-left politics in Britain is the Conservative Party.

Labour is old-style communism, with the state poaching on the role of the parents (they're going to start forcing "sex education" on four year olds in nursery school; they've already done away with fathers at the benefits end of society - examples of trespass into families are legion) so the children will grow up loyal servants of the state.

Fergus Pickering

Heavens! I feel a song coming on.

Little Lefties lurk in cupboards,
Or they skulk beneath the stairs.
You will never see them singly
For they congregate in pairs
As they talk about affairs:
Chatter-chatter, mutter-mutter,
Waffle-waffle, mumble-mumble,
Every little lefty nutter
With his little lefty grumble

Silent Hunter

It is worth pointing out that the 'supporters of New Labour' are very thin on the ground.

Just look at any blog; and the majority of the posts are vociferously anti Labour.

Even the Labour Blogger websites (the ones that allow anti Labour comments Hah!) have a fair chunk of anti Labour comments.

With any luck.....at the next Election, Labour will effectively cease to exist as a political party; heralding in a change of the tired old politics of Toffs & class warefare.

If we're really lucky, we might even get a PR voting system and be able to call ourselves a real democracy.

Marian C

The more naffed off they are, the happier I am

Tina

Labour are depressed, oh didums, not! The whole FU****G country is depressed under this government.

Jo

It does seem the centre left is collapsing all over Europe. Think Italy, France, Germay, Sweden, Swtizerland etc. If Cameron and the Tories can't capitalise on this at the next election they don't DESERVE to be in government.

Jessica

This contradicts Diane Abbott. On last nights This Week she said 'I think we will be the largest single party after the next election'.

Paul Pinfield

"Labour is in for a long spell in the wilderness"...

This is the consequence of their actions.

GOOD!

Max Kaye

Miserable weather - but the thought of depressed NuLabour MPs has cheered me up no end.

Silent Hunter

Jessica:

Is that the same Diane Abbott who castigated parents for not sending their kids through the state education system but then chose to educate her own kids in a private school?

Do people really take this woman seriously?

Does anyone believe a HYPOCRITE?

Steve Prentice

The sooner the New Labour Party and this Union ends, the better. I am reading these posts in a state of disbelief.
'Centre left'
'communists'
'lefties'
Are we talking about the Thatcherite New Labour Party?

With a little luck the Glasgow East by election will drive the final nail in the coffin of New Labour and take Scotland one step closer to an Independent(if not Socialist, certainly, left of centre) republic.

If the posters on this site believe that New Labour is a hot bed of fanatical socialists then God alone knows what kind of country England would become if you nutcases have anything to do with shaping its future.

I shudder to think.