Labour need a message but not Ed's one

Nicholas

I suspect that the message most reasonable and mature people are waiting to hear is that there will be less government not more, although no doubt a rather stupid class of people have developed under New Labour who want to be treated like children and bleat "something must be done" about every media hysteria-fest.

OT but I do find it incredible that a cabinet of two brothers, a husband and wife, too many Scots and a lot of Brown sycophants can be anything other than unhealthy. Who the hell does Ed think he is, lecturing people in this country who have more experience of real life, are older, wiser and have seen more Labour governments than he has seen General Elections on what government they should have. The disconnect between New Labour and the country is complete. This prat thinks only in terms of a government imposed with ideological objectives rather than governing by the will of the people and implementing policies voted for in a proper manifesto. New Labour are making it up as they go along.

Vlad the Impala

It was, I think, Ronald Reagan who said the 9 most troubling words in the English language were "I'm from the government, and I'm here to help". Along with "This one is different" (a personal favourite)

Verity

No "new challenges" have arisen since 1997. Islamic terrorism was around in 1997 and has been since the late 70s. So that's not a "new challenge".

All the other problems we have seen over the past 11 years were caused directly by socialism - social engineering, state control, and tractor production.

He's talking socialist garbage.

Faceless Bureaucrat

Verity speaks the truth...

Ann

And, Nicholas, a PM who has no mandate from the people and who comes from another country.

Verity

Vlad The Impala - Cute name.

But isn;t it a bit pretentious to write, "I think it was Ronald Reagan ...", when this is one of the best known quotes in the Anglosphere and we all know who said it? In fame, it even ranks ahead of George Bush noting in a public address, "I know how hard it is to put food on your family."

Water

I stopped reading the article at this point "The next election, according to Miliband, is "absolutely winnable...".

Verity

Why is everyone in Westminster called Ed?

Frank Pulley

Nicholas (1.29pm)

I was thinking very similar thoughts but could never have found such a withering and economic way of phrasing it, so thank you! Let's hope their apparatshits draw it to their attention.

Ian C

The only narrative that the Brown Gov't has is: "It was my turn to hold the gadget" followed by "right, what do I do now?" and "what happens if I presss this button?"

Nobody told him that he was meant to understand the controls he was holding before he picked them up.

dearieme

His brother is the more famous Pipsqueak Rubberband. So what is this obscure chap aka?

Liz Brown

If that is the sort of crap that this idiot comes out with, it is no wonder that we never hear/see him. I pray he is put back in his box

Anthony the Sensitive

Ed Milliband and his new challenges Huh! What about my new challenge. I have to work with Anthony the Sensitive who hates all politicians and anything to do with feely touchy. So Ed: here's a challenge for you. Win Anthony's vote. Bring back hanging (when bang to rights), hammer people who commit violent crimes against the person, start doing the right thing by hard working tax payers and stop pandering to the druggies and ner' do wells and start spending the spare dosh on people who deserve it, like MS sufferers and pensioners. I agree with Anthony myself and would add that you could sort out this expenses scandal while your at it. So stop worrying about the Labour message. Your dead ducks if you are not going to do something positive between now and the next election.
Hmm! I think you are gonners anyway. So Ed forget everything I said and get yourself off to the job centre.

John de Finchley

My favourite Reagan quote is, re big government, "Don't just do something, stand there."

Gingersdad

What the country really needs is an end to the 'professional' politician. So many of the people in the 'top jobs' have never actually had a proper job that it's not really surpising that they know beggar all about running country/business. And if we are to be absolutely honest, neither the tories or lib-dems are any better. An end to the party system would be a great start. It breeds patronage and corruption. Labour might even back that in their current bankrupt state. And Ann, your comment regarding the PM coming from another country is, at best ignorant and at worst racist. All MPs are entitled to aspire to the highest office regardless of their constituency. Start making rules regarding where the PM must come from and you hasten the end of the union. Of course, maybe you want that.

Verity

Ian C, who writes: "Nobody told him that he was meant to understand the controls he was holding before he picked them up."

No one told him, or anyone else on that ship of fools known as the current cabinet, that it is the people who are in control, and he is their servant.

Verity

Gingerdad - The minute I read the word "racist" in your post, I stopped reading. I know a trite, lazy mind when I see one.

joanna wippet the slow

The picture sums it up nicley.

John

Water, what do you expect from these useless, deluded amateurs?

Water

Quite so, but wasn't it Ginger's'dad? For he might not be Ginger, God forbid, sharp one, quite so.

Ann

Quite so, Verity. This &^%$ calls me 'racist' because I object to my country being governed by someone from another country that has its own laws which my country's MPs are powerless to change, but whose MPs can change my country's laws. Usually that's called colonisation. Trite, lazy mind doesn't begin to describe it.

Austin "Ed" Barry

Verity, yes, we're all called "Ed" because that was the name of the talking-horse "of course".

Verity

Ann - You go, girl! Because you are grounded in facts and our own soil. That we have defended against the likes of Brussels (Hi, Napoléon! Looks like you won after all! Never mind that silly old Duke of Wellington and our brave men! Centimetres, kilos and all that!) But not on the battlefield - defending our country. But in the corridors of Brussels to which Edward Heath ceded our country. And also Tony Blair and Gordon Brown.

Traitors.

Edward Heath never got dealt with. Why not? Because those coming along afterwards thought the ceding of our ancient sovereignty to "Europp" was a good idea? They bided their time throughout Margaret Thatcher's administration.

Why not? There would be an opportunist coming along on the next bus.

The betrayal of my country is mind-boggling.

Water

Quite so, what a &^%$ (or maybe he is the &^%$) I very much agree Ann, you can't have that now, what a poor use of such a term. For 's'low, trite and lazy doesn't begin to describe it, as I have said all along England... all these Ed's spoil the broth (or at the very least create it).

Water

"Water, what do you expect from these useless, deluded amateurs?" not much, based on their past actions (and their shambolic present state) I just like mocking them (as do most) and watching their supporters reel, hence why I “stopped reading”. Just a network of aged boys, who never grew up, and Harridans, it seems, a lot of the time.

Marian C

Ann; here here, totally agree with both you and Verity's comments