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Obama and Brown

James Forsyth 3:08pm

At some point, dire poll ratings begin to undercut a Prime Minister’s standing on the international stage as other leaders decide that there’ll be a new PM along soon so there’s no point in investing that much in the relationship. Gordon Brown appears to have already reached this point if Barack Obama’s comments are any guide. Here’s what Obama said in an interview broadcast on Sunday:

“The objective of this trip was to have substantive discussions with people like President Karzai or Prime Minister Maliki or President Sarkozy or others who I expect to be dealing with over the next eight to ten years.

It's important for me to have a relationship with them early, that I start listening to them now, getting a sense of what their interests and concerns are”

Now, you can say that Obama just forgot the PM. But his omission from the list shows that Obama thinks there is no political upside in the US from name-dropping Brown.

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fulcanelli

July 21st, 2008 3:19pm Report this comment

At last there's a plus side to something Obama has had to say.

Liz Brown

July 21st, 2008 3:29pm Report this comment

are there any more clouds with silver linings?

David C

July 21st, 2008 3:42pm Report this comment

Interesting photo.
For whose benefit was it taken?
Is there another picture with the subjects swapping sides?
The effect is to have Brown 'closed off' from the viewer, with his arm across him, and Obama 'open' to the viewer.
Subconscious messages, true, but all the more powerful because they come in 'below the radar'.
The photographer who posed this must have known.

Verity

July 21st, 2008 3:50pm Report this comment

Or perhaps, as with the Olympic torch, Brown tol Obama he could come to No 10, but he wouldn't touch him.

BTW- I note that he didn't mention Angela Merkel either, she who said, re permission for using the Brandenberg Gate for self-glorifying grandstanding, "Not just nein, but hell nein."

He didn't mention the Irish prime minister either. The Irish Americans won't like that. Has there ever been a less competent,less experienced candidate for president of the United States?

romeoechohotel

July 21st, 2008 4:04pm Report this comment

'...next eight to ten years'?

He is aware he's only allowed 2 terms, isn't he?

Verity

July 21st, 2008 4:54pm Report this comment

romeoechohotel - "He is aware he's only allowed 2 terms,isn't he?"

Hmmmm ... too tough to call. For someone who wants to be the chief executive officer of the richest, most powerful country in the history of the world, Obama seems to be a little shaky on numbers.

Do you recall, during the Primaries, he told a reporter he had visited "all 57 states"??? And on another occasion, he said he had visited "all 48 states plus Hawaii and Alaska." (This from someone who was born in Hawaii a few years after it became a state.)

Tom

July 21st, 2008 5:25pm Report this comment

Sarkozy??? How long is he going to be there? His poll ratings are about as dire as Brown's.

Carla

July 21st, 2008 5:29pm Report this comment

What happened to our 'Special Relationship'? We'll miss Bush when he is gone, remember the saying you don't know what you've got till its gone!

FACT

July 21st, 2008 5:33pm Report this comment

Tom, Sarko will be there till 2011/2012. You're right though he is not that much more popular than Brown.

fulcanelli

July 21st, 2008 5:41pm Report this comment

There does seem to be this presumption, in the media and the Democratic party itself, that his win is a foregone conclusion. I would love to be there if and when he loses the election. However, one of the problems is that McCain continues to make numerous gaffes and errors of his own. He seems half asleep most of the time. Are these really the two best candidates that they could find? It's a pretty sad reflection on the state of American politics.

Obama's messages and posturing just don't ring true to me. There is something about him that makes me cringe.

fulcanelli

July 21st, 2008 5:44pm Report this comment

Carla

Our 'Special Relationship' is only special when it suits and serves the interests of the Americans. They really don't give a damn about anybody else. The recent changes to the future visa waiver scheme are yet another example of this point.

The Happy Carbon Footprint

July 21st, 2008 6:25pm Report this comment

The "special relationship" is a wishful figment of the British.

Britain cannot get over it that after 300 years at the top, we're not the most powerful nation any more. We should be on our knees with gratitude that the title was taken over by the nation with the least imperial ambitions in history, and whose mind-boggling power is used,in the main, for benign purposes.

They have an absolute right to protect their borders, especially as Britain is now flooded immigrants from very primitive societies with a Dark Ages attachment to an alien belief system.

Sally White

July 22nd, 2008 12:18am Report this comment

Obama is sure to be the next president. He's already the frontrunner. Please help support him. VIsit WHYOBAMA08.org!!

fulcanelli

July 22nd, 2008 2:21pm Report this comment

Sally White: 'Obama is sure to be the next president.'

That's what worries a lot of people!

He's inexperienced, incompetent, and naive to say the least.

Marian C

July 22nd, 2008 6:48pm Report this comment

The arrogance of Obama! he's making an awfully big assumption that he's going to be the President.

If he's shaken hands with Brown, then he's doomed for a start; everything Gordon touches turns to doggy doo.

Obama is just as delusional as our glorious leader and would appear just as inept.

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