Cameron to Georgia this weekend, Miliband to visit next week

Frank Pulley

Too late! Waste of time now; that little shite-hawk Sarkozy has already feasted off the Caucasian carcasses. It'll be slim picking for the latecomers.

Jack R

The impotence of EU foreign policy towards Russia, indicates that a fundamental re-alignment of UK foreign policy, which accords with UK national interests, is needed now.

More Tory thinking on the lines of the Bruges Group would be welcome.

Pete, Scotland

Brown, to me, sounds like a parrot chirping away in the background echoing what the important, mainstream, leaders (and the media) have already said.

He gives me the feeling that we have become bit players on the International stage. Apart that is when our troops are required to go out and fight somebody elses fight in the name of some greater cause.

I don't know enough about Cameron to trust him, but at least he is on the ball and showing some leadership. I'll give him credit for that.

David Parker

As James Forsyth comments, this is about stealing a march on Nulab. Does Cameron think that Britain's view actually matters, after we have been subsumed by the EU? Since the EU had no view of its own it is hardly surprising that the French, under their current presidency, saught to capitalise upon this.

TGF UKIP

Easy, peasy for Dave. This is just the sort of PR posturing which is the very oxygen of his being. Indeed, Dave and The Shaven Headed One will be plotting, as I write, the dramatic photo ops that Georgia can provide.

For the real Dave Foreign & Security Policy you have to go to his to his speech delivered in Berlin, of all places, a speech Charlie Kennedy would have been so proud of.

Speaking of Berlin, I note today that while Merkel spoke of the Russian invasion of Georgia as "disproportionate" she could not bring herself to use the word "unacceptable."

With Sarkozy already seeking to sell out Georgia, the Franco/German alliance is obviously alive and well.

Verity

James writes "...and several European leaders are expected there over the... ".

Would that be "elected European leaders" or members of the mid-level EU Nomenklatura?

If they weren't elected, they're not leaders.

Even if elected, I didn't vote for "European leaders" to speak for me.

TGF UKIP

PS All the same it will be interesting to see if, and how, the BBC covers the Cameron visit and how far down the running order they place it.

Be even more interesting to see the coverage if Gordon then goes and the extent to which the Beeb lives up to its Brown Broadcasting Corporation sobriquet.

Mark

Perhaps Cameron will do a reverse Chamberlain and come back waving a piece of paper saying war with Russia in 22 months time .

Blairsupporter

Could you imagine Blair allowing this country to be relegated to the backseat, no profile role Brown has allowed us to pushed into by the French/Germans? Never has the saying 'you don't know what you've got till its gone', been more apt.

Carol-Ann

Why has more not been made, in the media, of the deafening silence from the Government on this issue and the fact that we seem to outsourced our Foreign policy to the French. Good on Cameron I say, at least someone is prepard to stand up and show the world this country hasn't fallen off the map!

Get Labour OUT

Cameron is going, not on his own initiative but because the Georgian leaders asked him to go.

They liked his firm tone at his press conference yesterday and they asked him to come.

I think that puts a different complexion on matters for posters lke G and Jonathan. The rulers of the victim state request a senior opposition politician to come when the PM and FS have been conspicuous by their silence and he goes. Miliband remains on holiday; DC is delaying his to do this.

One is a leader. One is fit for office and can and does take decisions. One acts.

Tel

Cameron is absolutely right to go. If things were left to Brown and Miliband no-one could blame the world for thinking the UK had fallen off the face of the earth!

Carla

Cam to go to Tiblisi, why not? He is the only leader we have right now. Gordon is too busy planning his 1000th relaunch for September...... driving up the national debt, computers for chavs etc

ad williams

I see Cameron is back to what he knows- performing stunts.

Oscar

Ad Williams - I know it's hard for people like you to comprehend, but this is an issue that David Cameron is passionate about. When genuine belief and astute positioning come together, as in this visit, you have the makings of great statesmanship. Brown is the stuntman - and he's not even very good at that.

Pete, Scotland

I get the feeling that at the moment the Governments policies are decided after consideration of the following process:

1. Check todays headlines.
2. Quick check with latest polls and opinion groups.
3. Form a policy.
4. Leak to the media to see reaction.
5. Revise and make an official statement.
6. If it goes wrong, deny all knowledge and blame somebody else.

I think that Blair and Brown have used 'Yes Minister' as a work experience video.

Anglica

At least the victims can still aet-gaeder under the Cross of St. George - despite the noses of sarko and the euSSR/franco-germany.

As for blair - surely he and his paper flags put us where we are. b&m are--"just carrying on with the job."

[Hope you-all like my eu punctuation! I try to be fashionable.]

Albert, son of a gypsy.

It is not often I disagree with Verity but Cameron is looking far more our Leader than the discredited and hopeless Brown.

I remember how I felt during theHungarian Uprising/The Poles/The Czechs/etc etc and how disgusted i was with our governments.

Nothing changes. Bush has acted a little late but Brown? I am sorry but this man of courage - the man who tells us he wakes up ready to make the big decisions has only one big decision to make, for me, and that is to RESIGN! He has no idea of leadership. He is a coward. Or as our greatest prime Minister, Margaret thatcher, would have said
F R I T!

Silent Hunter

Blairsupporter:

Hmmmm?

Where have I heard 'that' name before.?

No..........surely not?

mitch

Is gordon under the table again or in the closet?

Nicholas

Brown and his rabble find this difficult because they all have that subconscious, Wilsonian-legacy (the former PM not the ghastly red actor) of nostalgic admiration for the hammer and sickle. These are their red flag buddies in spirit and Georgia's flag is like England's - a country which they too set out to bully, occupy and suppress the democratic freedoms thereof.

I'm rather surprised that Herr Braun and Silliman haven't offered the Russians military assistance to complete their oafish weight-throwing. Instead they have used words like "respect" in the context of the Irish "No" vote. When New Labour's national socialists talk about "respect" or "consultation" be afraid, be very afraid.

Marian C

Nicholas @ 11:17 - I totally agree; Brown, Millipede and the rest of the muppets won't speak out against Russia, why? because they are just as commie as Putin.

At least David Cameron is doing something and meeting these people face to face; not just sitting there like some prize patsy, meditating his navel like Gordon the gormless and Millipede the wannabe

Verity

Marian C - I agree that Brown and Millipede are commies.

But so is Dave, in the splendid tradition of drawing room commies. The Mitfords, Bertrand Russell, Katherine Hepburn, hundreds of other well-known names who knew better what would be good for citizens of democracies than they, the simple fools, did themselves.

The Tories have been hijacked by the hardline socialists by way of greedy cowards like Cameron and will, as a consequence, die as a party.

As it has ceased to serve us, who cares?

Marian C

Verity - I would tend to agree with you.

It would appear that the Tories' don't want to be seen as too right wing in case it puts the electorate off. However, in my opinion, it’s what a good many of electorate want to see, not this middle of the road flim flam. This government is running rough shod over everyone and everything, but where are the Tory attack dogs? The only one that has spoken up is David Davis re: Civil liberties, surely this cannot go on. If it had been the Tories’ in government then New Labour / Labour or whatever the hell they want to call themselves these days would have been screaming at the top of their voices. This lack of attack by the Tories’ bothers me, as it makes the Tories’ look very weak I appreciate that David Cameron doesn’t want to be seen as ‘Thatcherite’ as he may perceive that this may put off some voters; but that is exactly what is needed, David Cameron needs to show that he and his ‘team’ have the balls to take on Labour and to get the country back on its feet. If he doesn’t, then maybe the Tories’ may start looking for a new leader. On a personal note I would have much preferred David Davis as the leader, but alas that did not happen.