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Conspiracies and the holocaust

Friday, 14th March 2008

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Astonishing. I mean, really, really astonishing:

The Right Rev Joseph Devine...said parents of homosexual children faced a "nightmare".

Devine, who is Catholic bishop of Motherwell, said: "The homosexual lobby has been extremely effective in aligning itself with minority groups. It is ever present at the service each year for the Holocaust memorial - as if to create for themselves the image of a group of people under persecution."


This cretin is a bishop? It gets worse:
There is a giant conspiracy against Christian values, an agenda here.
Indeed, not just any old conspiracy but a

huge and well-orchestrated conspiracy.
Aha. As Brett of Harry's Place puts it:
Conspiracies? Fake Holocaust invocations? Yes, it's all the standard fare now to a growing sect - drawing from both Left and Right of the political spectrum - that see the world in this way. What gives?

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Tee

March 14th, 2008 1:38pm

Stephen I think you need to read 'The Hidden Hitler' by Lothar Machtan and 'The Pink Swastika by Abrams and Lively. You will then have less reason to mock. Both books are hated by the gay lobby because it exposes the paucity of their Holoucast claim.

CS

March 14th, 2008 4:04pm

Come off it, Tee. Perhaps the rumours that Heydrich or Himmler had Jewish relatives are clinching evidence that no Jews died in the Holocaust either. I think that we're all familiar with the nature of those people who claim that the Holocaust was an invention of certain groups in order to gain sympathy. And where exactly is the logic in the Catholic Church persecuting homosexuals for the sin of pretending that they are a persecuted group?

paul canning

March 14th, 2008 6:34pm

I am very please to read this Stephen. Holocaust denial takes many forms and having read the accounts of the very few gay survivors, even hearing denial is simply upsetting. Sorry, but feelings intervene, hard for them not to. It is very important that everyone, right, left or whatever reject this rewriting of history. The Nazis murdered all sorts of people, including gays.

Ray

March 15th, 2008 8:54am

Let's face it, there were quite a lot of people the Nazis didn't like: Christians, Quakers, Jehovah's Witnesses, aristocrats, liberals, socialists, pacifists, people with learning disabilities, homosexuals, Gypsies, Slavs, Jews. In fact, apart from the latter (upon whom a particularly vile fate was visited) instead of each group seeking to parade its own particular 'victim' status, let us together give thanks that this evil regime was finally snuffed out by the determination of righteous men to stand up and challenge it, whether through resistance movements across Europe and within Germany itself, or amongst the phalanx of Allied armies that rolled back its conquests.

Lee Jakeman

March 15th, 2008 7:42pm

"... it is ever present at the service each year for the Holocaust memorial - as if to create for themselves the image of a group of people under persecution." At the risk of being labelled cynical, isn't there much truth in this statement? Although I wouldn't limit myself to criticising homosexuals - I think a lot of minority groups have been playing this same card, including blacks, Irish catholics and even muslims.

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