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Lloyd Evans reports on the latest Spectator / Intelligence Squared debate

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Big names at last Tuesday’s Intelligence Squared debate. Our beaming chairman Adam Boulton called on Will Self to propose the motion that America has lost its moral authority. In his sharp black suit, Self glared at us like an undertaker whose hearse has just failed its MOT and rattled through the sins of ‘the paternalistic superpower’. America guzzles up vast quantities of nature’s resources. It has a ‘systematically biased corporate media’ and a justice system ‘where 25 per cent of black males are either in jail or on bail’. He produced a killer statistic to highlight its oligarchical political system, ‘The re-election rate for congressmen is 98 per cent.’ An exhilarating speech full of flashes of surly wit. For the opposition, Simon Schama questioned Self’s figure of 98 per cent which, were it true, would mean the Senate could not have changed hands in 2006. Exuding sunniness, Schama reminded us that millions of Americans were ‘flocking to the polls to express their nausea’ at George Bush’s ‘eight aberrant years’. The genius of America’s system was that it carried within it the permanent prospect of ‘collective self-regeneration’. This mission would be seen through ‘by President Barack Obama’. An engaging speech whose theatrical flourishes were subordinated to facts.

John Gray, the political historian, interpreted the motion in terms of America’s readiness to use torture. ‘This is the litmus test of civilisation.’ Martin Amis made an ornate, funny and searching speech that began by describing American morality as ‘a work in progress. And it’s uphill work.’ America isn’t content with being feared and respected; it wants to be loved too. The troops that liberated Baghdad expected sweets and flowers and ‘dancing in the squares’. He accounted for this by listing America’s long history of humanitarian intervention around the world. Yet America’s cumbersome position as ‘the hegemon’ overshadowed its gentler side. ‘Power is a monster. Every time it rolls over in its sleep it creates tidal waves that flow through villages.’ As the world grew ‘more polarised and more weaponised’ we would need ‘American generosity and self-belief’. He looked forward to Obama’s victory in November. ‘A slave president. Think how that would reconfigure conceptions of America.’ Loud, hopeful applause.

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JimW

June 9th, 2008 5:49pm

It's always fascinating to rad about anti-Americanism in Britain. Hatred of Americans will not go away simply because the US elects a very weak president like Obama. You will simply find another reason to hate us. It is a sport, and one that anyone can play.


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