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PCC adjudication on Rod Liddle's blog-post 'Benefits of a multi-cultural Britain'

20 August 2005

Mr Oli Bird of London complained to the Press Complaints Commission that a blog posting on the Spectator’s website, published on 5 December 2009, contained inaccurate information in breach of Clause 1 (Accuracy) of the Editors’ Code of Practice.  

The complaint was upheld.

The piece under complaint was an entry on Rod Liddle’s regular blog for the Spectator’s website.  It said that “the overwhelming majority of street crime, knife crime, gun crime, robbery and crimes of sexual violence in London is carried out by young men from the African-Caribbean community”.  The complainant said that was not the case and pointed to statistics produced by the Ministry of Justice (MoJ), which showed that in the area covered by the Metropolitan police force, the majority of arrests for notifiable offences were of white people.  In categories defined as ‘violence against the person’ and ‘sexual offences’, black people made up 32% of arrests.  58% of arrests for robbery were of black people but that was not an ‘overwhelming majority’.  The MoJ statistics did not give specific figures for knife crime or gun crime.

The magazine provided some evidence to substantiate the figures: a BBC report, which quoted an Inspector in the Trident Unit of the Metropolitan police as saying that ‘for three out of every four shootings…in London, the victim and the perpetrator are from the black community’; a Daily Mail article, which reported that ‘124 out of 225 under-18s legally proceeded against for knife offences in the past three months are from the black community’; and a Sunday Times report which stated that ‘71% of people accused of mobile phone theft were black…’ It said that blogging was a conversational medium in which readers were able to disagree with the writer’s opinion immediately, as had happened in this case. In that sense, the piece as a whole had been written by the columnist and those who had commented. In addition, it had published a separate blog by another author in which the accuracy of the claim was called into question.

Adjudication

The Commission recognised the magazine’s argument that the nature of a blog post is often provocative and conducive to discussion. The blog in this case – which had been clearly attributed to the columnist – had certainly provoked considerable debate.

However, the magazine had not been able to demonstrate that the “overwhelming majority” of crime in all of the stated categories had been carried out by members of the African-Caribbean community.  It was difficult to argue that the sentence in question represented purely the columnist’s opinion, which might be challenged.  Instead, it was a statement of fact.  As such, the Commission believed that the onus was on the magazine to ensure that it was corrected authoritatively online.  It could not rely merely on the carrying of critical reaction to the piece. The Commission upheld the complaint under Clause 1 of the Code.

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Herbert Thornton

March 29th, 2010 9:45pm Report this comment

WHAT NEXT? Is it soon going to be a crime to write, speak or even think truths - as, for example to state that the Press Complaints Commission is a subversive body and part of the Politically Correct Conspiracy to extinguish free speech and discussion? Britain and Canada seem to be racing neck and neck to achieve that goal first.

And here's another truth - there is only one party that does not aim to smother Britain with immigrants so that it will evolve into a combination of the Balkans and Lebanon - complete with endemic, violent, religiously inspired unrest. And that Party is neither the Labour nor Tory Party - nor is it the Lib/Dems or even UKIP.

Britain desperately needs to revive and restore western civilisation - and the only Party dedicated to doing that is the BNP.

djw2009

March 29th, 2010 10:13pm Report this comment

Is 32% of the population in Great London black? It think you will find it is not. Blacks are overrepresented to an extraordinary degree in violent crime, but London is still a majority-white city and so Liddle should have said "over-represented" rather than "a majority".

Clearly this is politics - and the existence of bodies to "adjudicate" on such issues is chilling. I am sure the PCC is made up of people who are fully aligned in every view with our multi-culturalist establishment and who would welcome the reduction of English people in London to a minority of the population. What right do such spongers, such quangocrats, have to adjudicate?

djw2009

March 29th, 2010 10:19pm Report this comment

Note the MoJ - an Orwellian name for a government department - did not give figures for gun crime. How convenient. The TV documentary Murder Blues, (BBC1, Directed by Roger Graef, 14 September – 28 September, 2005) showed that 70% of gun crime in London is by black youths (see http://www.guncrime.org/race_ethnicity.html).

Fraser, you did not defend this point adequately. The PCC is not interested in the truth - they are interested in enforcing state ideology. To simply say "the MoJ did not provide figures on gun crime, so we must drop that point" is absurd. The MoJ most certainly DOES have figures on that, whether they choose to publish or not, and newspaper reports of serious crimes are clear in their verdict of black criminality.

Sam Davidson

March 30th, 2010 12:42am Report this comment

Rod, the bastards can censor you, but they can't stop you being right. And what's more, whatever perverse power trip they may enjoy right now, it will never stop them all being petty, sweaty, pointless fascist/Stalinist quango-wollahs.

Long live Liddle!

Austin Barry

March 30th, 2010 7:32am Report this comment

Now that the Pedants’ Complaints Commission has squeaked its politicaly correct censure, we can all be statistically reassured that the drab streets of Bidonville Inner London, and even the concourse at Victoria Station, can be safely negotiated without fear of gangstas, inter-community stabbings and muggings. Happy days.

Anth

March 30th, 2010 9:08am Report this comment

Take it like a man, Ron. The chilling truth behind your hype desperately needs saying - but accurately. The decision was right ; you must use your massive influence with wisdom. Check your facts carefully next time you need to thump on the table. But please keep thumping.

M. Rowley

March 30th, 2010 9:11am Report this comment

Just another device to try and close down any sort of honest debate about race which doesn't meet with multiculturalist norms.

logdon

March 30th, 2010 9:49am Report this comment

And we're supposed to believe crime stats pushed out by this lot?

Even they admitted not too long ago that er, adjustment and methods of collating altered the outcomes. And a politicised left wing, PC and diversity obsessed Police Service doesn't help either.

I await similar rulings on the BBC especially when Israel is the subject.

Neather showed how these people steamroller facts and deceive.

OK when they do it and usually lie their way off the hook. Not so for a 'right wing' publication and website.

Keep up the good work. I know whose side I'm on.

Minnie Ovens

March 30th, 2010 12:05pm Report this comment

If this is what the PCC was established for then God help any free speech left in Great Britain.
Does anyone trust anything coming out of Straw's "Ministry of Justice"?
I think it might be an idea if they also have Ministry of Justice Complaints Commission and a Parliament Complaints Commission which would effectively shut both of those bodies up for good if the same biased rules were applied.

Cajetan

March 30th, 2010 2:22pm Report this comment

Time to use the Freedom of Information Act, Rod. Since so many people's perceptions match yours, it's time to put this issue to bed once and for all.

I've just watched the BBC lunchtime news where some talking head from the Guardian (I think), called upon to comment on the adjudication, blatantly misrepresented your statements. That should be good enough for a complaint to the PCC and thereafter some restitution?!

Stuart Seacole Smith

March 31st, 2010 10:50am Report this comment

For some reason the link to this essay is dated 2005 - perhaps the MoJ/ PCC somehow got some advance notice through Jack Straw's crystal ball of darkness.

Anyway, it looks like the PCC adjudication is quite narrow, dealing as it does with only a portion of the crimes that most people would consider violent. Also, while pointing to some shortcomings in the details of the phrasing and formulation of the problem in the blog, it in no way counters the overall thrust of the now infamous goat curry post, which anyone with even half a brain anyway understood was meant as a provocative comment to get debate going.

So it seems that the PCC have chosen to hold this blog to a higher standard than others, which I can only assume is a result of their own biases and prejudices. No doubt they'll now seek to widen and deepen censure of all opinion and debate of which they disapprove. Which I think is pretty worrying for most of us, and no doubt a source of considerable satisfaction for those of a thought-police bent.

Barbara

March 31st, 2010 8:08pm Report this comment

Again we see the results of PC and the laws this government have passed to erode free speech, I agreed with the article and within the inner cities life is like this, perhaps they do not live near one to really know? There is however, a sinister outcome to this, free speech, and jounalists who try to speak it through articles may find themselves often coming up against stupid complaints made by some who are within the criteria of an article. When one cannot express ones self freely in society, by print or word of mouth one has to question what our country and society as come to. Well we know, its now almost a communist country, where collective thinking and actions are rife, and if one disagrees then either the thought police or agencies stop one from acting freely. We only have the choice to change things every five years, so the next election is very important indeed, if we fail to get rid of this totalitarian government we will be lost so we must vote for those who will change things, our freedom depends upon it. So for me Ukip is our light to freedom and I urge all to vote for them enmass, its our only hope.

Vettekulla

April 3rd, 2010 8:02pm Report this comment

Does this mean that if a blog reports verbatim lies by politicians, the blog can be reprimanded/censored but not the politician?

Patricia Shaw

April 6th, 2010 2:50pm Report this comment

Free speech is one thing, inciting racial hatred is another.

Liddle aside, Phillips is the Spectator's achilles heel.

Giving time and space to such provocative extremism lays the Spectator's protagonists open to much greater charges than those brought against it by the PCC.

KevTem

April 6th, 2010 6:32pm Report this comment

Surely good journalism is about challenging and not reinforcing popular stereotypes and prejudice?

Liddell could have argued that there is no comment ever made as to why the majority of paedophiles, football hooligans, armed robberies, burglaries, major drug barons are white. Colour is only used against the outsiders or minorities. When its the dominant group committing them it is just another crime, no reflection on the no any particular group or the native British. His comments/observations were not helpful in any case without the the PCC ruling

Ben Bouckley

April 9th, 2010 12:43pm Report this comment

Good thing too. There's a lot of bluster and Little Englander nonsense being spouted by 'True Blues' on the Spectator site, but surely the point is (in a multi-cultural society) you need to be careful what you say in such a prominent position. Especially when the statistics don't substantiate your point.

Bloggers and columnists have a wider social responsibility under the PCC editors' code -- posts like Liddell's are one of the reasons why people are drawn to extremist parties like the BNP, misguidedly in my view.

Moreover, I think Spectator readers are missing the point here: a critical adjudication from the PCC means that the Spectator simply has to print an apology and a retraction. As it was, the services of free speech were served by Liddle saying what he wanted to in the first place. It's not as if he's been hung, drawn and quartered. Precisely the sort of extreme violence that racial hatred could provoke.

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Ralph Musgrave

December 4th, 2010 1:11pm Report this comment

While I agree with the thrust of Liddle’s remarks, the PCC were right to point out that Liddle should have got his facts right.

It is actually not too difficult to write an anti-multiculturalism piece while sticking to the truth. I.e. the truth is that multiculturalism is bo**ocks. For example I recently Googled the words “fraud convicted”. Unsurprisingly the Mohameds,Islams and other non-British surnames were over-represented by a factor of about five to one.

As to the internet based attempts at emptying my bank account (and that of just about every other UK citizen), 90% of these used to emanate from Africa. Thought this particular con has spread to a small extent to other countries in the last three years or so.

As Herbert Thornton above points out, the BNP is the only party concerned about the future of Western civilisation. The degenerates and w*nkers who vote for the Lib/Lab/Con trick are not bothered about civilised values.

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