Swearing and shouting are underrated, says Giles Coren. Four-letter words can be immensely satisfying and extraordinarily effective
For example, after leaving the Times as a 27-year-old in a storm of four-letter words and smashed furniture, I was rehired by the editor I had rowed with when she moved to the Mail on Sunday because ‘it’ll be useful to have a nutcase like you on my side’. And the Mail pays nutcases real money, as we know.
I was horrid about Dylan Jones, the editor of GQ, in a column in 2003, and within the month had joined the magazine as political columnist. Indeed, I had never once been invited to contribute to The Spectator until, in an interview with the Guardian the other day, I said some terrible things about it and thus (obviously) scored my first commission.
Only twice in my life have I ever been truly talked about. The first time was when I won the Literary Review Bad Sex Award (‘she grabbed at his dick, which was leaping around like a shower dropped in an empty bath’). And the second was when I expressed my displeasure at a sub-editor who had removed a word (a whole word!) from my copy in a 1,009-word email whose mildest moment came when I asked the poor fellow, ‘Can’t you hear that it is wrong? It’s not f—ing rocket science. It’s f—ing pre-GCSE scansion... F—. F—, f—, f—.’
If you Google my name, references to one or other of these incidents is all you will get for the first, ooh, million pages. From the Rawalpindi News to the Inuit Intelligencer, I am world-famous as the Bad Sex guy with the shitty temper.
But I didn’t ask people to take any notice of these rare lapses of taste. The first was buried deep in a rather difficult novel, and the second in a private email to a colleague, who chose to get his revenge (quite reasonably) by leaking it. It’s just, I think, that public language has become so boring of late that a bit of directness speaks to people in ways we can barely understand.
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Junk Male
October 2nd, 2008 7:51am Report this commentSorry, Coren Junior, but you have shown yourself up for what you are - a talentless, egotistical, third rate imitation of your late father.
adam wright
October 2nd, 2008 11:29am Report this commentNo matter how you dress it up Giles, you are still a prat and a second-class writer
AndyC
October 2nd, 2008 12:20pm Report this commentNot that famous, to be truthful. Your dad was a genuine wit without ever being a pottymouth. And your sister had a doomed but valiant stab at making the best porn film ever. But you just sort of eat for a living...
David Short
October 2nd, 2008 12:26pm Report this commentI'm afraid I agree with the previous two comments.
Where would this offensive man be if he hadn't been brought up in privileged meeja north London with a well-connected father?
Teaching sociologoy in some shabby provincial comprehensive perhaps.
At least his sister has shown she can shine at international level at poker despite being a lacklustre columnist.
Her poker success earned her £500,000 in one competition, and that's her achievement alone.
Nothing to do with favours done for her father.
Frank P
October 2nd, 2008 12:37pm Report this commentBwaaahahahaha.
In the real world of course expletives have always lubricated the discourse of everyone from the age of about, well, shall we say five? As punctuation, they can be just as inventive, apposite and pomposity puncturing as well oiled polite satire or sarcasm.
By the way you lifted that last sentence of yours from at least 20 of my Coffee House posts (and 40 more variations of even more exotic versions of it that the 'moderator' spiked). But I won't claim copyright, because it is merely a self-evident truth, upon which there is no copyright, thank God.
Frank Pulley
October 2nd, 2008 12:44pm Report this commentbtw
I bet your sister is capable of the odd epithet in a put-down, isn't she? What a clever girl she is. Enjoyed her series about philology and origins, immensely.
MDH
October 2nd, 2008 2:29pm Report this commentThe earlier comments say it all, really. I was pretty appalled at Mr Coren's email, which, frankly, would have got him a punch from many of the sub-editors it's been my pleasure to work for and with over the years.
As (yet another) well-connected second-rater, I'd say Al Gruaniad was his natural home. And shame on The Spectator for printing this rubbish
Prospero13
October 2nd, 2008 5:47pm Report this commentA 'difficult novel'? Difficult to read, certainly.
Your sister's sharp yet still charming. Were you dropped on your head?
robert
October 2nd, 2008 8:23pm Report this commentYou're not "famous" for being rude, twat. You're mildly notorious for being an arrogant, pompous ass!
MartinW
October 2nd, 2008 9:22pm Report this commentEgotistical and nasty, with no consideration for others. Coren is a child having tantrums and out of control.
Hugh Northam
October 3rd, 2008 1:32am Report this commentI'm glad I have never met Mr Coren, and never will. It would tax my courtesy to have to deal with someone who congratulates himself on the inelegant and banal (not to say ungrammatical) prose he writes, enlivened only by the use of four letter words, and who fails to appreciate that the whole point of social and professional intercourse is not to give satisfaction to the person who fails in courtesy without regard to the effect on the reactions of his interlocutors. My patience with Mr Coren is, moreover, thoroughly exasperated by his ungrammatical "swearing and rudeness is a sign of ignorance". It is apparent that Mr Coren, like the grunting youths he affects to deplore, has an attention span of insufficient length to enable him to match two nouns with a plural verb. It surely a sign of the decline of The Spectator that its pages are inhabited by this piece of self-publicising drivel. It is neither funny nor persuasive. No wonder The Spectator is looking to invigorate itself with Austrlian content under the aegis of Oscar Humphries.
Ed Lancey
October 3rd, 2008 9:03am Report this commentShame your old boy isn't still around to tell you to shut the fuck up.
ian skidmore
October 3rd, 2008 10:50am Report this commentHE IS FAMOUS FOR HAVING A FAMOUS FDATHER BUT CLARLY TALENT DOES NOT RUN IN FMILIES. ANY JUNIOR REPORTER KN OWS IT IS SO MUCH EASIER TO BE RUDE IN A REVIEW THAN IT IS TO BE WITTILY CONSTRUCTIVE. YOIU DIMINISH YOUR MAGAZINE BY INCLUDING SUCH RUBBISH
sonia morris
October 3rd, 2008 10:51am Report this commentI love you, Giles Coren and I couldn't agree with you more. I'm a bit that way myself.
Steve W
October 3rd, 2008 12:26pm Report this commentIt does not say much for Mr Coren's education at Westminster and Oxford (a first in English!)that he thinks it clever or funny to be boorish and rude.
James Green
October 3rd, 2008 1:43pm Report this commentPerhaps Mr Coren measures the success of his existence on this planet by others simply reacting to him being a moron. Oh, the irony!
Tony Pandy
October 3rd, 2008 8:37pm Report this commentIt isn't your rudeness, Giles, that has made you a laughing stock. It's your pretentious self-regard for your pisspoor journalism. The "first million" Google hits, huh? The Spectator shouldn't have published this self-exonerating piece of crotch-cradling wishful thinking.
Walter Ellis
October 3rd, 2008 9:45pm Report this commentIn fact, the first reference to you on Google is your Wikipedia entry, which ends with the suggestion (probably inserted by you) that you only got your job on The Times because of your dad. I couldn't check the other eight million entries (actually 57,600 ... as I'm sure you knew), which do, admittedly, concentrate on your fouler Fowler's tendency. It must be great being you. In my case, it would be even greater as I'd be 20 years younger.
tom
October 3rd, 2008 11:15pm Report this commentComplete and utter crap by anyone's standards.
I hate this guy, he is a second rate writer and no-rate human being.
Frank P
October 4th, 2008 3:22pm Report this commentI knew that there were a few pompous prats among the Speccie readers, especially those who also scribble for a living, but by jingo! Giles, you've smoked out more than I would ever have imagined. Jealous hacks, friends of Gordon, or friends of Dorothy even - given the feline spite?
M McGregor
October 4th, 2008 3:29pm Report this commentI honestly don't see the point of printing this article, other than glorifying ill-mannered, foul-mouthed conduct. If the author is serious, it's appalling; and if it's 'tongue in cheek' it is too near the reality of modern Britain to be funny. Either way it reflects no credit on him, or your publication's editorial policy.
Obviously abusive language may be 'satisfying' at times, which is why it exists; as does 'road rage' and other forms of tantrum for the same reason. It has certainly proved to be
'effective' for people like John McEnroe and Gordon Ramsey :
but only because we live in a society which not only tolerates but actively encourages gutter behaviour of all kinds, instead of it resulting in instant disqualification.
CharlieRay15
October 5th, 2008 6:05am Report this commentI don't think it would be unfair to bracket Coren together with Joe Kinnear, the charmless and boorish temporary manager of Newcastle United.
George
October 5th, 2008 2:23pm Report this commentSounds like Frank P is on someone's payroll.
How could anyone be jealous of a loser like Giles Coren?
He's never even had a proper job, and the only work he gets is because of his dad.
Richard Horton
October 5th, 2008 2:53pm Report this comment"The excessive use of expletives is the way in which the inarticulate endeavour to be eloquent" Write out 500 times Coren. As I had to 30 odd years ago. Made no fucking diference of course.
Emma B, Cape Town
October 6th, 2008 9:37am Report this commentCome on, Spectator readers, what's your problem? Giles is funny!
Bob Grundy
October 6th, 2008 2:00pm Report this commentTwentyfive comments so far, of which two are in favour of young Corens poor effort of being, well what ? a self publisist perhaps......
Is it surprising that these two are females ?
Best all round if he got a proper job, if he can.
Vespasian
October 7th, 2008 1:38pm Report this commentWith so many in the media jumping on the bandwagon and swearing away because they're desperatly trying to prove how 'cool' they are, being original & interesting now would probably consist of not swearing, and perhaps being rude to people without using any four letter words. Coren and people like him are so tiresome: their love of swearing, makes them seem like little children discovering with glee that they can swear and mummy dosen't smack them anymore. Swearing just shows a complete lack of imagination and vocabulary. Grow up Giles, get a life...
M Taylor
October 27th, 2008 3:04am Report this commentPersonally, Giles, I stopped being a fan of yours after you stopped living next door to Victor Meldrew on that TV series you used to be in.
Lawrence
November 2nd, 2008 7:50pm Report this commentSwearing doesn't suit you Giles!
You are just a pompous London tosspot who only reviews restaurants in Kensington and Chelsea.
If you are paid to write this kind of rubbish then my name's Jonathan Ross
Belinda
November 10th, 2008 7:50pm Report this commentGiles Coren-you are an idiot.
Swearing reveals the character of a person who has low standards and a lack of common courtesy.
Giles Coren's lack of ability to find adequate words with which to express himself,leaves him to resort to swearing in order to appear 'hip,cool and oh so tough and macho' i'm sorry i'm quacking in my boots. He is not as bright as he professes himself to be.
Giles Coren,you have an over inflated opinion of your own importance,you are a prat.
So,no,you are not famous,you are infamous for being an idiot.
Alicia
November 11th, 2008 12:16am Report this commentGiles Coren...hhmmm..now let me think. I know who you are.
You're that racist bigot employed by The Times newspaper, who slurs an entire nation (no not a minority of fools who have undoubtedly had their comeuppance)no,an entire nation,by writing propogandist drivel with absolutely no historical fact to back up your bizarre claims.
Giles Coren the average 'cooking critic' getting involved in politics!!
Is The Times newspaper so low on staff that it resorts to employing a below average and mediocre cook to write for it's political pages.
MG
November 12th, 2008 2:27pm Report this commentNot only are you a prick, Giles Coren, you're showing up anyone who gives any encouragement or endorsement to your bad attitude, as a prick in their own right. You reflect badly on The Times and The Spectator.
Cameron for instance, in his party Conference speech, spoke of our broken society, and our lack of civility. Now that you mentioned him loving your rude e-mail to the sub-editor, he's in my eyes a goner, an ingratiating slime ball with no principles. I won't be voting for him. Doesn't he see that you Giles Coren are not only one of the symptoms of our broken society, but also one of the perpetrators?
Your supposedly cool, fearless, irreverent, anti-authority, and anti-PC attitude, springs merely from having been molly coddled by your unduly priveledged background, and from not having been slammed down yet.
John Bull
January 6th, 2009 10:08am Report this commentConspicuous that in your desperate, begging attempt to convince us that you might have a likeable side after all, you completely omit what you are most disliked for: your completely ignorant, probably racist remarks about our Polish friends and the Holocaust. The Poles are good people and as a Brit I'm glad they're here now and I'm glad they did more than their bit in the Battle of Britain, Monte Cassino and Arnhem. I'm totally ashamed of your inaccurate and unfair comments about Polish immigrants and their forefathers. You think you're so damn funny - nobody else does.
Giles London
January 6th, 2009 4:00pm Report this commentLook, I am bloody annoyed about this. Who IS Giles Coren? Read a proper restaurant reviewer. Come to Giles London Gets Stuffed at Blogspot. I tell the truth about restaurants. And it hurts. Plus I swear a bit.
Charlie
April 6th, 2009 6:32pm Report this commentGiles failed to mention his article about "Poles Apart". It was filled with geographical errors and lacked historical insight. The way he diminished and lied about the deaths of innocent people- Jews and Poles alike- to satisfy his lust for infamy is not "tongue and cheek" but actually quite sickly. He ought to have apologised or even better read some history books. I am only half his age but feel twice his maturity.
Paul
July 11th, 2009 7:09pm Report this commentI couldn't agree more with the last two comments. Coren's diva-style tirade shows how unbelievably petty and small-minded this man really is. Relying on lazy stereotypes such as 'an Irish plasterer' this man has all the talent, wit and social graces of, well, a second rate journo buoyed up by their own self-importance.
Paul
August 7th, 2009 12:33pm Report this commentOnly a tosser who has never had to work for anything in his life would talk like this. His reviews of restaurants are just an excuse for him to emphasise his problems with society and why no-one takes him seriously. If he was half the man his father was he would be a great man, however as it stands he is an arrogant, racist, trustfund baby. If he had even a smidgen of talent I may be inclined to take him seriously.
GW
October 2nd, 2010 12:40pm Report this commentGlad to see your piece ends on a stressed syllable - good ending too!
samuel coleridge
October 8th, 2010 1:17am Report this commentsuper-fucking-sized delusions of adequacy. but i still rekkun giles is an ok sort of twat, know what i mean...
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