Rod Liddle says the case of Fata Lemes — a Muslim woman who claimed her dignity had been ‘violated’ by the dress she had to wear in a cocktail bar — is sadly typical of a crazy institutional structure that kowtows to every conceivable outraged sensibility
A Bosnian Muslim woman, Fata Lemes, has just won £3,000 from an employment tribunal because the Mayfair cocktail bar in which she worked required her to wear a red dress in the summer months. She said this was humiliating and made her feel ‘like a prostitute’ and ‘violated her dignity’ and therefore she refused to wear the dress. She complained and won her appeal.
Yes, it’s one of those cases again — the sort of thing the left insists never happens, is all made up in Paul Dacre’s evil factory of lies. The red dress Ms Lemes was required to wear was not in the least bit revealing, incidentally — less revealing than the slinky t-shirt worn by the woman on her Facebook site, apparently. I assume Fata is now busy applying for jobs in a pork pie factory, or a dog pound, or a synagogue, and keeping in touch with her lawyers. There’s another thing about working in a cocktail bar which might make Mohammed, pbuh, a bit twitchy. Can you work out what that might be? Hmm, let me think.
The details of this case are a shade more nuanced than usual, because Fata is a Bosnian Muslim woman rather than a full-blown Hessian-sack-over-the-head, burn-the-infidel middle eastern or Indian subcontinent Muslim woman. Bosnian Muslims, we were repeatedly assured while we expended British lives and money to liberate their country, are really friendly and don’t wear veils or any of that strange business — you’d hardly know that they are Muslims at all!
Perhaps the Bosnian interpretation of the Koran, then, is ok with alcohol but is nonetheless severe about couture. I don’t know — this is just a guess made in an attempt to excuse Fata Lemes. It may even be the case that Fata was undertaking a social experiment to see just how gullible and stupid her adopted country could be — I mean, they went to war on our behalf and gave me a home and an education while they did so ... I wonder if they’d be so daft as to give me a large amount of cash for refusing to work somewhere because I claim that my sensibilities have been infringed? Now, I wonder what sort of job would involve my Muslim sensibilities being infringed on a fairly regular basis? Got it! — a cocktail bar in Mayfair! And meanwhile, for my part, I wonder how Fata would have got on in front of a Serbian employment tribunal, a panel consisting of Ratko, Radovan and Arkan.
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Anthony Price
June 18th, 2009 7:59am Report this commentOne exception is that of a White Male hounded out of employment by sexist harassment by women. I write from personal experience of this. A 'Beacon College' which is in fact a cesspit of corruption, incompetence and waste, spared no expense - several tens of thousands of public money to organise a campaign of lies, presented by expensive specialist lawyers rather than take disciplinary action against the female staff who carried out the criminal harassment.
GaryO
June 18th, 2009 8:58am Report this commentThe three flights of stairs I have to climb up to get to my office on the second floor are all turning to the left at the landings. This has made my personal life a misery and I am now suffering from an underdeveloped right arm and brain – as result of which I cannot bring myself to finish off the wooden flooring to my lounge and fitting a new shower curtain rail. My wife believes that this constant turning to the left when climbing up them stairs has also had a severe effect on my political leanings not to mention the havoc it has caused to my sexual, shall we say capacity of innovation, which has resulted in her going to the Caribbean on her own to recuperate.
I demand compensation.
GaryO
June 18th, 2009 9:00am Report this commentDear Anthony Price
Can I have your (previous?)job, please.
Regards
GaryO
Bill Corr
June 18th, 2009 1:14pm Report this commentRod rightly says that these panels are frequently composed of guilt-ridden self-hating white liberals and the incurably insane, 'New Statesman' and 'Guardian' readers are often to be found among them.
Solution: Have randomly-selected juries instead. The bummer about this spiffing wheeze is that juries are frequent composed of people barely literate enough to take the juror's oath.
Or - far better - have unfoolable old reform-school headmistresses, prison wardresses and retired policewomen on the panels, with powers to inflict worthwhile punishments on those wretches who come forward with meaningless claims.
For my own part, I genuinely feel physically ill in close proximity to the obese but in several past employments I've simply had to put up with it.
M. Hill
June 18th, 2009 3:16pm Report this commentThe police are racist - against white people. White people demonstrate legally for one day and one of them, Ian Tomlinson, is murdered by police. Tamils demonstrate legally for 70+ days and the police don't touch them.
A. MacAulay
June 18th, 2009 4:02pm Report this commentPoliticians, who per definition suffer from a special personality disorder, should be compensated for no longer being able to compensate their inner deficits and wonky self-esteem by stealing the stamp money. After all, they just want to be loved and when mummy punishes them with withdrawl, then cash always helps to dry their tears.
N
June 18th, 2009 5:11pm Report this commentIt's too bad we live in a "sue happy" society. You got fatties suing fast-food chains because "they made me fat, i shouldn't be responsible for what i eat". Or you have handicapped people who sue building owners because the buildings aren't "handicap accessible" even though when the building was built that law wasn't in effect. Now you tell us about women's "faith" be impugned upon despite evidence to the contrary (the more revealing facebook pics). We should take all these people out into the country and give them a good beating for being so stupid, wasting out time, and ruining the world (i call first swing!).
EyeSee
June 18th, 2009 7:22pm Report this commentAw Bless. I wrote about a view I hold on homosexuality and it doesn't make it past the (expenses?) censor. But Rod's view is OK; the approved view presumably. Or am I writing this to myself too? I like Rod most of the time, but he still does have the left liberal 'answer-first' every so often. You know, the I'm just right, OK school of thought.
Louise
June 19th, 2009 6:36am Report this commentRod has every right to be angry at the double standards displayed by the Fata Lemes case and institutionalised “kowtowing to every conceived sensibility.” But don’t use those views as a vehicle to tout racist sentiments.
Just because Rod points out the bigotry on every side doesn't make his own comments any less bigoted. What has all this stuff about the war, or the bit about Serbian employment tribunals got to do with the issue?
John Thomas
June 19th, 2009 12:57pm Report this commentRod has lots of unpleasant things to say about Lillian Ladele, but does he seriously believe, would he seriously argue, that Christians are NOT discriminated against, in our society, say by the MSM and those in power? No? Well if he was one, and on the receiving end, he certainly would know the reality.
David Miers
June 19th, 2009 3:18pm Report this commentIn reply to M. Hill
June 18th, 2009 3:16pm
The Tamils are - in fact - demonstrating ILLEGALLY, which makes the lack of official response even more outrageous. Can you imagine what hould happen if they weren't a 'minority' group?
Nick Ray
June 19th, 2009 3:46pm Report this commentPlease note Mr Liddle, Christian faith does not insist that 'sodomites' automatically burn in hell. You are creationg a straw man to knock down. Ezekiel 18;32 God is not willing that any should perish. The fact that some more extreme believers might say this should not be used to discredit the rest of us. Nick Ray
paul gilboy
June 19th, 2009 8:03pm Report this commentare you sure that is not made up, i'm sure that you have to bring a specific allegation to a tribunal. Im sure its not up to the tribunal members to advise one party to change the basis of their claim in order to win. hardly seems impartial
J.W. HARDIN
June 20th, 2009 1:23am Report this commentIn the spirit of frugality which will follow the next election, could we stop the CRE being a goveernment agency and make it a registered charity. Then the people who support it can put their money where their mouth is.
Pedro
June 20th, 2009 5:52am Report this commentOn the other hand, Rod, you might have an irrational prejudice against racists and homophobes. Or is hatred of racists and homophobes never prejudice and always OK? Perhaps it depends on the century and the zeitgeist.
cath
June 20th, 2009 3:15pm Report this commentGood article. I have a grievance as it happens. An atheist, I'm increasingly upset by ubiquitous displays of religious twaddle. I'm also increasingly pressed not to be religion-'phobic'. Why would I not be fearful of religions which are totally irrational and often specifically anti-women as well as generally anti-democratic? As this climate of supernatural rubbish is widespread on the net, and I have to use the net for my work, I think I'll sue my employers for exposing me to emotional harm. It's clearly their fault that I'm offended. Could be worth a few thousand quid from what I hear.
T'owd Bagger
June 20th, 2009 5:44pm Report this commentGiven the ever increasing number of DOFs Displace Old Farts)being freed from te toil of employment by Gordon(to be laid off himself within the year, but on better severance terms than the rest of us), the solution opens before us. DOFs can be gainfully employed to staff the Employment tribunals, using their experience to make the sort of ill adjusted non politically correct decisions which will result in cocktail waitresses being required to be duly and erogenously dressed freeing the present incumbents to preach and practice gender politics in the marbled halls of the DSS. A side benefit will be the resurgence of the Guardian's circulation through their ever increasing self righteous swell of indignation and protest at the increasing injustices perpetrated by these loathsome middle aged males. There's an opportunity for you to take the lead on this,Rod, before the start of Millwall's football programme incubates your seasonal paranoia and despair in all personkind. induces !
By way of postcript, if the Tamils feel so strongly about recent events in Sri Lanka the option is open for them to protest there. This will free the valuable protest space they currently occupy for those more deserving groups currently suffering real prejudice and persecution, such as MPs, Labour Lords, Quangocrats and those many Doctors who can barely find the time to visit their patients or run their second Mercedes.
Kevin
June 20th, 2009 7:17pm Report this commentI suppose Rod cries "bigotry" if Christians oppose any immoral acts between two consenting adults - such as gladiatorial combat.
"Yeah, fatuous Christian bigots, if you don't like it you can get sacked from another job by a different pro-immorality employer. And if you don't like that, you can get prosecuted as a self-employed person for failing to provide services that facilitate immorality. Like you don't have a choice!"
A. MacAulay
June 22nd, 2009 6:59am Report this commentKevin must mean, "consenting Gladiators in private", whereby the preferred Christian version is non-consenting (being slaves) Gladiators against, if not free at least hopeful of martyrdom, Christians in public.
But seriously, Kevin wasn't there something somewhere about "free will"?
MikeF
June 22nd, 2009 11:09am Report this commentYou started off well but then faded a bit this time Rod. It was disappointing to see you bandying the word 'bigot' about. It is an ugly term and much more to the point one that has been leached of almost all worthwhile meaning though its use as a general purpose term of abuse by the 'left-liberals' for anyone who disagrees with them on just about anything.
In all probability the term is beyond rescue but if you are going to use it then a fairly strict definition is required. I would argue that the essence of bigotry is active suppression of or harassment of or violence towards other people for no other reason than what they believe. It isn't simply holding beliefs that run contrary to the liberal consensus - in other words the facile and self-righteous way the word is used in, say, The Guardian.
Now I don't see that you can accuse this registrar of bigotry if that is the definition of the word. She hasn't tried to stop other registrars from officiating at gay civil partnership ceremonies or interrupted them when they have taken place, just said that in all conscience she does not feel she can officiate at them. It is a fine point - but if 'bigotry' is an appropriate word to describe her attitude what is the right word to describe, say, the actions of Peter Tatchell when he interrupted a service in Canterbury Cathedral?
gerry
June 22nd, 2009 4:18pm Report this commentThe cocktail bar should have appealed. Miss Lemes posted a far more revealing pic of herself on a social networking site.
A. MacAulay
June 22nd, 2009 6:01pm Report this commentMs. Lemes can present herself, through the medium of her choice, in any candid pose, revealing any intimate detail of her person, if it is of her own free will. Indeed, it may be an expression of her artistic soul and is therefore sacrosanct before all altars of taste and sense.
It is the coercive nature of a capitalistic employer/employee relationship that stands here revealed and judged. Ms.Lemes was put in a humiliating situation because she needs the money. She might put on the red dress to attract a beau if she could afford it, a situation that should shame us all. 3000 smackers is the least we can do.
She deserves her own TV game show as recompense. We can call it "Opportunist Knocks".
Martin Macguiness
June 24th, 2009 12:57am Report this commentFurther to A. MacAulay's comment that Ms. Lemes deserves her own TV game show "Opportunist Knocks", surely given all the criticism of her this should really be "Opportunist Knockers"?
sandfly
June 24th, 2009 7:23am Report this commentThank Gaia for the Bill of Rights - now we can all be rich... if we're inventive enough.
Jenny
August 28th, 2009 11:42am Report this commentTribunals are corrept - end of story. If you have a brain dont bother - the judges who preside really hate it if you know more than they do - which is not difficult as they dont have a single one between the lot of them.
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