Douglas Murray talks to the historian Michael Burleigh about his new book on the culture of terrorism and the West’s craven reluctance to confront the nature of the threat
Despite spending so much time mired in the terrorist mind, Burleigh comes up with some surprisingly hopeful conclusions. Terrorism as a tactic is, he declares, bound to fail. And as the recent death of Imad Mugniyeh shows, we’re certain to get bin Laden in the end.
But we can’t win a war against terrorism, he says, because ‘fighting terrorism is analogous to dealing with cancer. Cancer isn’t going to go away and nor is this.’ But the specific problem of Islamist terror? Can we beat that?
‘I think you can do. I think there are preventive strategies. There are things to build up your immunity or society’s immunity in this case. And I think there are a whole set of different tools in the toolkit which you can bring to bear, both domestically and internationally. I think Angela Merkel was quite right when she said Germany’s frontiers are now on the Hindu Kush.’
Reading Burleigh’s recent work I realised that here, with little fanfare, a supreme conservative-minded historian has completed a trilogy which stands as a resounding technical and moral rebuke to the Hobsbawms and Perry Andersons of his profession — a riveting history of political and religious ideology on our continent over more than two centuries.
As we finish he cites a startling confession by a former German terrorist on his murderous heyday: ‘We read a lot of books which we half understood.’ Anyone who reads Michael Burleigh could not be at such a disadvantage.
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Stephen Fox
February 21st, 2008 11:44am Report this comment'...Germany’s frontiers are now on the Hindu Kush'. Shame her soldiers aren't there too, instead of being tucked away in northern Afghanistan.
C Powell
February 21st, 2008 9:49pm Report this commentMichael Burleigh is one of the best historians I've read in a while: clear-sighted, fair and makes you look at matters with a fresh eye.
Riaz Ahmad
February 22nd, 2008 12:15am Report this commentEvery one with even an ounce of sanity knows terrorism is henious,and terrorists the devils. But people like Douglas are not interested in truth or reality, rendered blind and brain dead by vested interest. Perhaps Douglas may care to read history a bit more. He takes the moral high ground with with usual hipocricy. Of course, citizens have to be protected from the jehadi devils, but it will help the cause of decent peace loving people, if writer like Douglas start telling the truth, the evils of hipocricy, the double standards, the racket called the security council, half a century of persicution of Palistinian people. Bin Ladin is devil incarnate, but no one has a good word either for the warlords ruling USA, ready to obliterate anyone for a barrel or two of oil.
Sempronius
February 22nd, 2008 1:42pm Report this comment"Bin Ladin is devil incarnate, but no one has a good word either for the warlords ruling USA, ready to obliterate anyone for a barrel or two of oil." Dismal attempt at moral equivalence. The Americans removed a mass-murderering maniac and his despicable regime in Iraq. Look in the mirror (and a dictionary) before you accuse others of double standards and hypocrisy.
Chris Ashton
February 27th, 2008 4:12am Report this commentThis article has lightened my heart this morning. All is not lost then. Small lights of intelligence and honesty still shine in the pc smog of contemporary Britain. I'm going staight to Amazon.com to order this book.
Ian
February 27th, 2008 11:50am Report this commentIt suits Burleigh, like so many others, to elevate the small group of inadequates, psychopaths, sociopaths and utopians that inhabit every society known to history into an "-ism". But that's all these are - misguided and dysfunctional individuals. Sometimes, if they combine, they can cause a little damage. But we create far more by elevating them into an "-ism". To treat them thus is to surrender to an insidious "inevitability of gradualness" that just doen't exist, except in our febrile imaginations. We seek patterns where none really exist.
M Clyde
April 28th, 2008 1:16pm Report this commentI think that what Burleigh seeks to highlight is not the dangers posed by Islamist extremism but the craven attitude of western liberals who seek to establish some kind of moral equivalence between radical Islam and western liberalism and democratic values. It really is not so different from those in 1930s Germany who were fooled into thinking that Adolf Hitler was a bit OK, perhaps justifiable. Rough, a bully, but he had his reasons, real issues, and these needed addressing. It is the old philosophical conundrum of whether ends can ever justify means. No true liberal can do other than oppose jihadi theology and confront its Islamic roots just as no true defender of liberalism could ever be so craven as to consider Hitler a bit OK.
That there is a quietist spiritual side to Islam with a rich literature and tradition cannot be doubted, but this is not mainstream; it exists in spite of the Quran, not because of it.
The Islamists are therefore right when they say the Quran is their constitution. Read it yourself and see how often the word 'kill' is mentioned. One third of the Quran (according to Tantawi, the leading intellectual of Al Azhar university in Cairo) deals exclusively with the Jews - always in a hostile manner.
The roots of the Palestinian problem are therefore in Quranic anti-semtism.
The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Amin al Husseini was a Nazi collaborator; his grandson was Yasser Arafat. Until Muslims look critically at Muslim anti-semitism as endorsed by the Quran there will never be a peaceful or rational solution to the Palestinian problem. The problem is hate-filled ideology.
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