It was an honour to write the Spectator politics column this week. You can find my thoughts on the collaspe of Labour morale here.
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peter campbell
May 15th, 2009 8:33am Report this commentthe labour party is now in the hands of satan they have turned against the people, and all that is good regarding family and moral values ? they will be severly punished at the elections ....vote UKIP
Susan Hill
May 15th, 2009 8:43am Report this commentWho wants to save it ?
mac
May 15th, 2009 11:16am Report this commentAn 'honour' to write the column?
Ok, then, it was an 'honour' to read it.
Your party was shamelessly used by Blair to achieve power through spouting circus-ring, populist soundbites and he was followed by a second-rater whose student politics hatred for the Opposition - not his risible claims of regard for the country or hardworkingfamilies - have determined his every move. Your party has reaped its just desserts for its sheeplike collectivism under the thrall of the New Labour charlatans.
I know that you left - or were ejected from - the sheepfold for telling some home truths. Socialism has no liking for those who do not stick rigidly to the party line, so I wish you the best of luck if you seek to be listened to in the process of recalibration that the Labour Party so desperately needs.
mark
May 15th, 2009 11:21am Report this commentIf you think that New Labour becoming the third party is a 'danger' then you are just as out of touch as are the majority of Labour MPs.
logdon
May 15th, 2009 12:00pm Report this commentBeyond redemption. Britain has had enough of this venal party whose alliance is not towards Britain but their own pocket's, self interest and parliamentary seat and the privilege which comes with it.
Watching the DT video of Malik talking about the 'tattered' rules of the Green Book made me wonder if he could understand English.
Last night Dimbleby read out the last page of those rules. In the interest of the constituency being the main thrust. How on earth is a special chair and a monster TV going to affect that?
His total lack of any repentance said it all and the reversion as always to spin made me feel quite nauseated.
Giving money to worthy charity? What charity, some zakat which will end up in |Palestine?
This is not good enough. We know it. The masses know it. Seeemingly it's these overpromoted Labour porkers who still, mired in their culture of taking us and our money for a ride who refuse point blank to accept it.
Ian C
May 15th, 2009 12:15pm Report this commentAgree Martin. They either get rid of him and have a hope of a future or they die with him at the wheel. Simple choice, really.
I was surprised that Diane Abbot last night said she thought he should not be removed now. It shows the extent of the denial when one of his biggest internal critics thinks there's still a gain to keeping him until an election.
What that position denies is that the 4th June results will have any effect. Cuckoo land!
Richard Abbot
May 15th, 2009 12:56pm Report this commentSurely the Labour Party died years ago? In 1981 they gave up being a serious contender for government with Bennites and SDP defections. There has been no serious and honest left of centre alternative since.
But what about New Labour? Tony Blair was the best PM the Conservatives never had. New Labour was a clique, a cabal, the worst thing to ever happen to politics in this country. More devious, more dark, more slippery and more incompetent than any previous administration. The full truth will never out about this terrible era in our country. New Labour died when Tony Blair resigned. That the polls place Brown Labour as less popular than Michael Foot kind of proves the point.
If you are left of centre the only possible home for you now is the Lib Dems. The ashes of New Labour and Brown Labour must be scattered far and wide so they can never, ever, recover.
And Cruddas needs to join the Lib Dems if his talents are ever going to be applied to government
Hawkeye
May 15th, 2009 1:20pm Report this commentMartin - Labour is not worth saving. Hold their head under water and keep flushing. Eventually they will slide round the u-bend of history.
robert
May 15th, 2009 1:37pm Report this commentMartin, do you now want to register your disappointment that a politician of the "stature and integrity" of Shalid Malik has been "dragged into" the expenses scandal?
Wily Trout
May 15th, 2009 2:25pm Report this commentIs that like '24 hours to save the NHS'?
The Boy of Pigs
May 15th, 2009 8:27pm Report this comment"the [labour] party stubbornly sticks with the devil it knows out of a misplaced sense of loyalty.
It is not for me to say whether the Labour party should ditch Gordon Brown..."
I think you just did Martin.
Nitnurse
May 15th, 2009 8:56pm Report this commentListen Martian, if you started now and put your mind to it, in three weeks time you could knit yourself a lovely cardigan.
You might laugh now but when november's winds are a howling round your velux, chances are you'll count me as one of your very closest.
Northpaw
May 15th, 2009 9:00pm Report this commentRichard Abbot.
"If you are left of centre the only possible home for you now is the Lib Dems."
Ibiza's still open isn't it?
Sam Armstrong
May 15th, 2009 10:15pm Report this commentWhy save it? I am having a great time watching the slow car crash. We have suffered long enough and now it's time to watch the final scene, the implosion. Fun!
hadrian
May 15th, 2009 10:37pm Report this commentI get incensed constantly reading that voting UKIP will be a mere 'protest' vote! Not that Protest is a bad thing but many of us would vote UKIP anyway out of resolute resistence to increasingly state and supra-state oppression and messianic politics. This is why Labour is currently imploding- its raw socilist promises as ever fail and disappoint and folk tire of the resultant empty platitudes. Of course it is a tendency endemic in all politics I think so the other parties, even the ones opposed to bloated statism, do not go uninfected by this failing. As ever a healthy dose of cynicism or realism about the limits of politics and what it can achieve does not go wrong!
Should Brown go? I think I understand Diane Abbot's reservations- it's getting just too uncomfortably close to the next election and anyway I never underestimate Broon's blunderbus ability to survive- though even I doubt he'll recover from this one.
Steve.W
May 15th, 2009 11:21pm Report this commentWily Trout – You are correct, this idea, this sort of saying began with “five minutes to midnight”? I can't do the German but have heard how Adolf Hitler would say such a thing in an absurd urgent tone, almost a shriek, during a speech.The sort of person who traditionally voted Nulabour upon hearing “Three weeks to save the Labour Party”, will now say “who gives a ***k.” Calling the bluff like this won't work, not now.
Stephen
May 16th, 2009 1:06am Report this commentDeath of the labour party is the best thing that could happen to Britian.
John
May 16th, 2009 10:48am Report this commentGlobal warming?
Think of the recent BBC Ice melting propaganda, then look up what the sattelite data actually shows:
http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/extent/AMSRE_Sea_Ice_Extent.png
Global warming comes from the same scam factory that is New Labour/Socialism
logdon
May 16th, 2009 11:48am Report this commentThe myth is busted. The cover is blown. Labour is now a partisan, bitter, greedy and lying husk of an organisation which has betrayed it's roots irredeemably.
One time champion of the working class and honest distributist values, it has descended into a finger wagging moraliser lead by venal champagne socialists who toss off phrases like the 'court of public opinion' without the slightest idea of what that means.
Well, we've seen that very 'public opinion' this week and they don't like it. Not one bit. Quelle surprise?
It's not just the stupendously and sordidly diverse grubbiness of the greed, (I mean 40” TV’s, home cinemas, glittery toilet seats and tampons, come on,) but the hypocrisy of these uber sermonisers who would see us all in hair shirts whilst they prance in their subsidised ermine.
This week has been the equivalent of Poe’s allegorical Masque of the Red Death. Whilst all around succumbed to the plague of recession and hardship the glitteratti of our political world danced their merry jig, sealed in and secure from the depredations the rest of us face.
Now the first stage of infection is hitting them and the wailing and gnashing? We were only obeying orders. Yeah, right, sunshine. We’ve heard it all before and now it’s time to face the real music.
That symphony of retribution will arrive in June with the crescendo arriving sometime next year.
I can’t wait!
Martyn
May 16th, 2009 12:08pm Report this commentI hope the Labour party sticks with Brown it will ensure what we all need a massive Labour loss at the poles. Their legacy starting with Brown the chancellor, the rape of billions from pension funds resulting in todays shortfall and a requirement to work untill we die on the table, the weapons of mass destruction that cost thousands of Iraqi, British, American and European lives not to mention Billions of pounds in a war fund, massive deriliction of fiscal duty ensuring the worst recession in living memory and then blaming Thatcher after a decade in power, an immigration policy that has let anyone in regardless of whether there is a job for them or not putting huge strain on a faltering NHS and benefit system. If it all wasnt so serious I could fall off my seat laughing.
GET THESE IDIOTS OUT NOW!
AndyLeeds
May 16th, 2009 8:58pm Report this commentI agree with Stephen - the death of the Labour Party would be a great blessing.
hadrian
May 16th, 2009 10:37pm Report this commentMartyn- What a great post!
Mind you, one gets maybe over cynical to the point where one agrees with an old colleague of my father's who used to bluster-
'Vote for them?! You must be joking, it just encourages the b*****ds.'
Michael Booth
May 17th, 2009 10:02am Report this comment" Flash.... wahah.... Saviour of the Universe (percussion bit, then soundtrack) Flash, Flash, I love you, but you have only three weeks to save the Universe)..."
Great film - seems we are living it, but the ending is not going to be as happy.
Travis Bickle
May 17th, 2009 10:12am Report this commentA "Labour" party that has consistently penalised the working man (to the benefit of scroungers, freeloaders and cheats) doesn't deserve to survive. End of story.
Kevin Taylor
May 17th, 2009 2:13pm Report this commentThree weeks to save 'New Labour'. Why bother? Nothing but a bunch of self-serving scum who deserve nothing but the dole queue, the sooner the better
Percy Filf
May 17th, 2009 5:09pm Report this commentlogdon.
glittery tampons?
"Because you're worth it"
Rhoda Klapp
May 17th, 2009 7:13pm Report this commentThree days gone, how are you doing?
Let's just imagine I'm going to post progress queries every three days, and things are only going to get worse. Then I won't need to do it.
Edward
May 17th, 2009 9:37pm Report this commentDear Martin,
The "... collapse of Labour morale..." ?????
With respect... Who gives a toss ?
What's more important (and relevant) is the collapse of the electorate's morale.
In those comparatively innocent days of 1997, when Blair swept to power on a "whiter than white" manifesto, we, the electorate, were gullible enough to believe such propaganda.
And the Tories gifted it to them. It was easy.
Not so now.
After recent troughing revelations, the Conservative Party (assuming they are the main "Opposition" Party), cannot even claim ANY such moral high-ground as Labour did successfully in '97, and therefore cannot hope to be swept into power on anything other than a cynical public who hope they might at least be voting for the "least worst party".
And that is truly where we find ourselves.
Sad, but seemingly the case.
Even the leader of the opposition - and leaders should lead by example, shouldn't they ? - has been rumbled by his own wisteria-gate.
They've all lost credibility despite their posturing.
If we accept that there is "right" and there is "wrong", it is extraordinarily patronizing to expect the electorate to believe that within Parliamentary circles there is a "sort-of-right" and a "sort-of-wrong".
Why do we continue to indulge in playground politics when the Nation is at risk as never before in peacetime ?
I grant that there is a certain satisfaction to be had from Labour's collapse of morale, but surely there are more urgent matters to be addressed.
Like "electability". And who has it ?
Sorry to say, but if I would trust any "political" opinion, it comes not from Westminster, but from the likes of Boudicca, Simon Coulter, Martin N.W. Kent and Stanislav the young Polish plumber as well as quite a few others.
More sense comes from cyberspace nowadays than either Westminster or the political correspondents dangerously close to the piggery.
Bilderberg anyone ???
Occasional Ostrich
May 17th, 2009 11:04pm Report this commentI'm still puzzled, days after this blog, as to why ANYONE should WANT to save the labour party.
Bob
May 18th, 2009 3:25pm Report this commentPlease do not bother
cuffleyburgers
May 18th, 2009 4:17pm Report this commentA very good article Mr Bright.
However a coupe of points need to be made - Labour hasn't been the party of the underdog since they were captrued by the Bennites, and rendered unelectable. I suspect that before that there was a genuine desire to help working people, unfortunately, Labour, having always been hopelessly economicaly illiterate and intellectually in denial, failed to realise that Socialism, communism, and even Blair's famous thid way are just alternative forms of slavery.
The theory that the govenerment knows best, cares more and should be in charge of the economy has been tested to destruction (as thouh that were necessary) by Brown, so I suppose we should thank him for that.
Regrettably Labour's support will never vanish there will always be a constituency of people who fall for the idea of socialism, and middle class well meaning useful idiots as well as the substantial client state Brown has bought himself with our money.
What we can hope is that the terms of the debate move on to lower taxes, less central goverment (including from Brussels) and a return to the primacy of the individual.
Fergus Pickering
May 18th, 2009 6:49pm Report this commentIsn't it TWO weeks to save the Labour Party now?
Steve.W
May 31st, 2009 2:37pm Report this commentOnly a few days left now.
Rhoda Klapp
June 8th, 2009 3:57pm Report this commentThree weeks is up. How did it go?
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