Israel, radical Islam and the EDL

Annunziata Parker-Tomkinson

Are you referring to the French-owned energy supply company EDF (Électricité de France)? My, how jolly intriguing. I'm afraid the Hebrew press is slightly thin on the ground in these parts, do tell us more Martin. Go on, you know you want to!

Maj-Gen Wilmhelm von Korpsdorf

Ve haf not French electricity since 1955. But it vas continuous not, like French food supplies also. Also we haf not ze Jewish Chronicle since 1933. EDF I sink to patagonia vent. Maybe Paraguay where also no electricity.

Archibald

Interesting article. I'd not seen the comments of the Searchlight chap anywhere, it's unfortunate that this small but important step wasn't seen as more newsworthy. Perhaps if he'd burned a Koran and a load of poppies while urinating on a war memorial, our fantastic press would have taken more interest.

Ricky

During the push to Berlin, the Red Army encountered an SS Division made up of Bosnian and Arab Muslims, wearing the usual black Waffen SS regalia. Syria was an active ally of the Nazis as was the Muslim Brotherhood in Eygpt. The Grand Mufti, Haj Muhammed Amin al-Husseini of Palestine - an avowed Judeophobe - was Hitler's personal guest in Berlin throughout WWII. Many escaping Nazis from the death camp personnel or High Command found a place of welcome in Jordan, Syria and Yemen in the post war period, assisting Arab nationalism and weaponry. "Mein Kampf" is required reading by all Hamas operatives and their Covenant is the most antisemitic document in decades.

Fundamentalist Islam has more than just flirted with racism, Nazism and repression.

It's here with us, right now - in a town near you.

ps

http://pragmaticsedition.wordpress.com/2010/11/17/answers-from-muslims-against-crusades/

Interview with Muslims Against Crusades. They exist because of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Funny how the ruling class pretends otherwise.

AY

ps -
no they exist because ruling class pretends that war in Afghanistan isn't really a war. Otherwise, these enemy infiltrators would be treated properly.

Patricia Shaw

It is plainly naive to detach Israeli Extremism from Islamic extremism.

Islamic Extremists perceive their 'Axis of Evil' as the Knesset, Rosen and Kohr's AIPAC/Neocons and Blair.

If they weren't radicalised before, they see the constant war mongering, boxing in of Presidents, torpedoing of Final Status negotiations, Lebanon 2006 and Cast Lead - and hey presto.

A calculated win win of course, because the ensuing violence gives rise to Islamophobia, a deliciously blood curdling right wing mantra and excellent excuse for further warmongering and peace denial.

Only problem is the fall out and collateral damage.

In their video the 7/7 Bombers specifically mentioned their Brothers in Palestine.

PuppetMaster

@PS, Muslims against crusades may have only existed since the Iraq war, but of the 29 muslim invasions of Christian Europe since the founding of Islam, we can be pretty sure that many of them were opposed to us as well.
It might also be worth remembering that the crusades didn't just happen, they were an attempt to reconquer Christian lands after the muslim invasion. In other words it was Islam that attacked Christianity first, not the other way around.

Linda Smith

Extremism? or mainstream? I hope all commenters will be watching Panorama on Saudi-backed mainstream extremism education in Britain tonight on BBC1.

Hillary

Martin, where does the EDF come into all this? Patricia Shaw. Predictably, your name crops up whenever the word Israel appears in any blog here. You seems to have a very naive view of history and your dislike of Jews is almost palpable. If you really believe that Islam is only militant because of and since the "Knesset" was formed then I suggest you trawl through your pre-PC history books and read how Islam has treated Jews throughout history. Doesn't make for very nice reading.

Tintagel

@PS Muslims Against Crusades is reinvention of Islam4UK and Al Muhajiroun, both of which have been banned in the UK under anti terror laws.

The agenda and of these and other extremists didn't suddenly spring to life during the first or second Gulf war. As other posters above have pointed out, Islamofascism has long history going back many decades.

MaxSceptic

"In their video the 7/7 Bombers specifically mentioned their Brothers in Palestine."

What are Pakistanis - even 'British' Pakistanis - doing in Palestine?

As for Peter Beinart's comment about Israeli policy affecting him for better or for worse: tough titty. I am pretty confident that the 6 millions Israeli Jews are not going to formulate existential policies based on how it affects the pointless and impotent existence of some timid, self-loathing diaspora 'ASHamed Jew'*.

* ©Howard Jacobson.

Andy Gill

Searchlight have at last realized that Islamism=Fascism and found the guts to say so.

Hopefully this will encourage others on the left to do likewise. Perhaps they can start by taking on the fascist Saudi schools who are preaching filth in this country.

Patricia Shaw

MaxSceptic

Its the Muslims, Stupid

Anthony Aloy

Dear All

The Government of Israel has already signed the Road Map and agreed to a Palestinian State, which included a settlement freeze. This has been enshrined into international law. The 4th Geneva Convention applies to all occupied land including East Jerusalem (that is why the extended freeze proposed by the US is to include that half the city).

Regarding the association of Muslim forces within the Nazi army, I would like to remind people that there were extremists on all sides including those who hung British soldiers in the 1940s, bombed the King David Hotel, murdered Count Folke Bernadotte and associated with the Axis Powers.

God bless you all.

Daniel Lionsden

What is courageous about searchlight's decision, pray? Surely an "anti-fascist" is supposed to be courageous by its very nature? Although "anti-fascism" in the West has long taken the easy option of attacking supine white targets while ignoring far worse examples elsewhere. The "courage" of searchlight and "anti-fascists" in general has suddenly appeared only after it is apparent to them that EDL is garnering support from gays, lesbians and blacks ie those who are usually their core supporters. In other words, Mr Bright, this apparent courage is nothing more than cold calculating cowardice.

However searchlight still have a long, long way to go. While it is commendable that searchlight is edging towards sanity by mildly criticising Islamic "extremism" (though as has been pointed out this is note extremism but mainstream Islam) the comparison with the EDL as 'two sides of the same coin' is odious. The EDL is actually doing the job the principled left should be doing, upholding the Western enlightenment, the rights of women and gays, etc against a militaristic and totalitarian ideology. The EDL are actually the anti-fascists now.