The Long March to the White House
As reported here, Camp Obama is resorting to ever more outrageous attempts to silence the questions that are mounting about the past associations of the saviour of the planet. Given the sheer volume of information that is now available and the deeply disturbing questions this all poses, the astounding reluctance of the mainstream US media to ask those questions is a scandal which has itself become a major political issue.
Thanks in large measure to the work of bloggers such as Trevor Loudon and investigative journalist Cliff Kincaid of Accuracy in Media, information has been around for the past year suggesting that Barack Obama is an integral part of a web of radical activists, whose roots go back to a clandestine Communist Party network in Hawaii centering upon his erstwhile mentor the late black poet Frank Marshall Davis, an agent of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA).
Unlike Communists elsewhere, the CPUSA fused the twin ideologies of class and race oppression. In a speech last year to mark the reception of the CPUSA archives at the Tamiment Library at New York University Gerald Horne, a member of the editorial board of the CPUSA journal Political Affairs, described how the CPUSA placed its emphasis on working class solidarity in tandem with staunch opposition to ‘white supremacy’.
In a dossier posted on the America’s Survival blog Herbert Romerstein, a former US government security investigator, records how Moscow micromanaged the CPUSA. In 1935, Moscow instructed it to establish a CP apparatus in Hawaii to develop a mass revolutionary movement there and promote the withdrawal from its territory of US forces – at that time essential for the defence of the US. This Hawaii CP network was perceived by government bodies to be a major threat to US national security.
A key figure was Harry Bridges, a CP agent and head of the International Longshoremen’s and Warehousemen’s Union. In 1948, Frank Marshall Davis came to Hawaii at the suggestion of Bridges and another secret CPUSA member, Paul Robeson. Dr. Kathryn Takara, a professor of Interdisciplinary Studies at the University of Hawaii, herself a radical poet and Obama supporter (and who takes issue with some of the claims made about Davis and Obama) wrote her dissertation on Davis and spent much time with him between 1972 and his death in 1987. In an analysis, Takara notes that he brought ‘an acute sense of race relations and class struggle throughout America and the world’ and that he openly discussed subjects such as American imperialism, colonialism and exploitation. He
espoused freedom, radicalism, solidarity, labor unions, due process, peace, affirmative action, civil rights, Negro History week, and true Democracy to fight imperialism, colonialism, and white supremacy. He urged coalition politics.
What this seemed to mean in practice in Hawaii was an attempt to suborn the cause of black people’s rights to the cause of Communism. Romerstein recounts how Davis tried to convert the National Association for the Advancement of Color People, which tried to fight off what it perceived as infiltration by Communists who it believed betrayed the cause of black people’s rights, into a Stalinist front. More details of the Marshall/Hawaii network are provided here.
As Kincaid reports, Kathryn Takara has said that Obama was introduced to Davis by his grandfather Stanley Dunham, who considered Davis a ‘strong black male figure’ and thought he exerted a ‘positive’ and significant influence over Obama during his high school years. In her view, Davis was just such a black role model for the young Obama and gave him ‘a sense of believing that change can happen’ through ‘living in a diverse world’.
The problem was that Davis believed ‘change’ could best be achieved through Stalinism.
Until very recently, Obama refused to confirm this close relationship with Frank Marshall Davis. Kincaid writes:
In Dreams from My Father [Obama’s autobiographical memoir] Obama refers to ‘a poet named Frank,’ who visited them in Hawaii, read poetry, and was full of ‘hard-earned knowledge’ and advice and who had ‘some modest notoriety once’. The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his ‘poetry’ and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just ‘Frank.’
The reason is apparent: Davis was a known communist who belonged to a party subservient to the Soviet Union. In fact, the 1951 report of the Commission on Subversive Activities to the Legislature of the Territory of Hawaii identified him as a CPUSA member. What’s more, anti-communist congressional committees, including the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC), accused Davis of involvement in several communist-front organizations.
The true identity of ‘Frank’ was confirmed by the CPUSA’s Gerald Horne, who writes of Frank Marshall Davis:
Eventually, he befriended another family – a Euro-American family – that had migrated to Honolulu from Kansas and a young woman from this family eventually had a child with a young student from Kenya East Africa who goes by the name of Barack Obama, who retracing the steps of Davis eventually decamped to Chicago. In his best selling memoir Dreams of my Father, the author speaks warmly of an older black poet he identifies simply as ‘Frank’ as being a decisive influence in helping him to find his present identity as an African-American, a people who have been the least anticommunist and the most left-leaning of any constituency in this nation.
It appears that Davis continued to be a mentor to Obama into young manhood. In Dreams from my Father, Obama relates how, just before he went to college at 18, he was warned by 'Frank' not to forget his ‘people’ and not to ‘start believing what they tell you about equal opportunity and the American way and all that shit’. Obama also cited the incident when his white grandmother was accosted by a panhandler, which shocked him because her attacker was black. It was to 'Frank' that he went for advice, only to be told:
What I’m trying to tell you is, your grandma’s right to be scared. She understands that black people have a reason to hate. That’s just how it is. For your sake I wish it were otherwise. But it’s not. So you might as well get used to it.
Despite this close early relationship with a role model and mentor who happened to be a Communist agitator and radical black activist, such matters might nevertheless have raised few eyebrows if Obama’s politics had matured with age. But he appears to have continued along this same radical trajectory – as his 20-year membership of the black power-promoting Trinity United Church of Christ would suggest. A dossier by Cliff Kincaid documents how in 1995 Senator Alice Palmer presented Barack Obama as her chosen successor and protege to a group of extreme left-wingers: William Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn and Dr Quentin Young. These were to play a significant role in Obama’s life and career. Yet Palmer was an official of a CPUSA front group; Young was accused of being a CPUSA member and having a financial connection with the violence that broke out at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago in 1968; and most notoriously of all, Ayers and Dohrn became members of the terrorist Weather Underground -- and yet have continued to have links with Obama, as outlined by Stanley Kurtz.
As Kincaid writes:
It was in Chicago that Obama became a ‘community organizer’ and came into contact with more far-left political forces, including the Democratic Socialists of America, which maintains close ties to European socialist groups and parties through the Socialist International (SI), and two former members of the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), William Ayers and Carl Davidson.The SDS laid siege to college campuses across America in the 1960s, mostly in order to protest the Vietnam War, and spawned the terrorist Weather Underground organization. Ayers was a member of the terrorist group and turned himself in to authorities in 1981. He is now a college professor and served with Obama on the board of the Woods Fund of Chicago. Davidson is now a figure in the Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism, an offshoot of the old Moscow-controlled CPUSA, and helped organize the 2002 rally where Obama came out against the Iraq War.
While Obama’s meteoric rise is hailed by blinkered liberals as heralding a brave new world of openness and transparency, not to mention peace and love, radicals see it rather differently. After Obama’s victory in the Iowa caucus CPUSA supporter Frank Chapman wrote to the People’s Weekly:
Obama’s victory was more than a progressive move; it was a dialectical leap ushering in a qualitatively new era of struggle. Marx once compared revolutionary struggle with the work of the mole, who sometimes burrows so far beneath the ground that he leaves no trace of his movement on the surface. This is the old revolutionary ‘mole,’ not only showing his traces on the surface but also breaking through.’
Not surprisingly, therefore, this underground ‘mole’ has been backed to the hilt by American Communists. In 2004, the Chicago Communist Party backed his successful campaign for the Senate, as the People's Weekly reported:
Activists from Illinois were immersed in the campaign to elect Barak Obama to the U.S. Senate. Obama won a landslide victory in the March 16 Democratic primary. If Obama wins in November, he would be only the third African American senator since Reconstruction. ‘This was a historic victory. It was a victory for political independence and grassroots, coalition, and issue oriented politics over the machine and money,’ said John Bachtell, Illinois CP district organizer.’
And as the Columbia News Service reported, the Young Communist League has mobilised to campaign for Obama: doubtless the Democratic Party is less than anxious to divulge to the nation this particular affiliation of these young activists who are helping it get out the Democratic vote.
In his most recent post on the subject, Cliff Kincaid reports that Obama has now acknowledged a personal relationship with Frank Marshall Davis. But in a riposte to allegations about his radical associations, his camp has nevertheless misleadingly edited an article to conceal the fact that Davis was a member of CPUSA. This is less than surprising since, as Kincaid also notes, the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee issued a report in 1956 declaring:
‘Founded in September 1919, the Communist Party of the United States of America is an organization unique in American history. It is not a true political party and differs fundamentally from all political parties in this country. It is in fact a Russian-inspired, Moscow-dominated, anti-American, quasi-military conspiracy against our Government, our ideals, and our freedoms.’ In 1982 testimony, FBI assistant director for intelligence Edward J. O’Malley testified that the CPUSA has been ‘one of the most loyal and pro-Soviet Communist Parties in the world and has unfalteringly accepted Soviet direction and funding over the years.’ The recent book, Comrade J, based on interviews with a Russian spymaster at the United Nations, documents that Soviet intelligence operations against the U.S. continued even as the Soviet Union collapsed and Russia emerged in its place.
Camp Obama might also have a few problems with this recent account in the UK's Daily Telegraph, which reported that Davis was also a pornographer and sexual deviant who was into sado-masochism and even the seduction of a 13 year old girl:
On other occasions, Mr Davis would cruise in Hawaii parks looking for couples or female tourists to have sex with. He derived sexual gratification from bondage, simulated rape and being flogged and urinated on. He boasted that ‘the number of white babes interested in at least one meeting with a Negro male has been far more than I can handle’ and wished ‘America were as civilised as, say, Scandinavia’. He concluded: ‘I regret none of my experiences or unusual appetites; for me they are normal.’
Ah yes, redefining deviancy as normality, the agenda indeed of Gramsci/Alinsky: patron saints of community organisers, apostles of deeply underground mole-like revolutionary Marxism, architects of the wildly successful undermining of western morality and society in America and Britain -- and now poised to embed itself in the White House, epicentre of the oppressive global capitalist regime, itself.
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ndm
September 17th, 2008 12:46amMelanie Phillips meant to write:
As reported [everywhere], [Team McCain] is resorting to ever more outrageous attempts to silence the questions that are mounting about the past associations of the saviour of the planet. Given the sheer volume of information that is now available and the deeply disturbing questions this all poses, the astounding reluctance of the mainstream US media to ask those questions is a scandal which has itself become a major political issue.
McCain is now sufficiently reluctant to speak to the press - it is over a month since he has done so - that the press corp almost mutinied this morning. The McCain camp are scared of allowing Sarah Palin to be interviewed by the serious press in case the American people find out she knows less about America and the World than the head of a big-city PTSA.
The biggest political issue of the last month has been the appalling judgment McCain demonstrated in selecting Sarah Palin as his Vice Presidential candidate without even minimal vetting. In doing so he insulted America. The polls are now pretty clearly showing that, outside the hard right Christianist base there is deep unease with McCain and Palin - and the polling bump she gave McCain has now vanished.
Margaret
September 17th, 2008 1:12amHard to believe that so many young Americans, and a few shallow old ones, are willing to consider this Communist plant for President.
Even if all of his associations have never been exposed in the American press, as you did, Melanie, the various sordid types (Davis, Rezko, Wright, Ayers-Dohrn, Pfleger, Alice Palmer) that have been brought to light should be enough to wake up any close-to-normal American.
Frank Pulley
September 17th, 2008 1:17amThe shimmering, simmering watershed Melanie. Beautiful!
colin powis
September 17th, 2008 1:21amObama's SUMMER of LOVE IS "Much ado About Nothing"...obama is the greatest fraud,charlaton and poseur in American History!
Sunlight is the best DISINFECTANT and the Great Pretender is decomposing before our very eyes!
Obama is the political American Idol...a creation of our trashy and malignant Hollywood culture... zight ghite....spirit of the times!
It would take the fertile imagination of Shakespeare to invent such a troubled and narciscistic character like Obama!
We are about to witness the greatest political meltdown in modern memory...a Dukakis like landslide of 15 states or less
NightShades
September 17th, 2008 1:22amMelanie-
Scary isn't it? It seems that the only real reporting we get here across the pond is from great writers like yourself and the blogs. The feeling here in NYC is that there is to many unaswered questions concerning Obama's past. Thanks, to writers like you and the staff we're able to see the other side of the man. Soldier on and keep up the good work. Cheers!..
Cordially,
NightShades
Mark Kaleokualoha Davis
September 17th, 2008 1:33amIt is unfortunate that Ms. Phillips believes the disinformation campaign conducted by Cliff Kincaid and Accuracy In Media against my father, Frank Marshall Davis. Some of the specific misrepresentations she made are debunked in the "Redbaiting Barack Obama" post at http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/Kaleokualoha/gGxdvX. For example:
- He did not believe in Stalinism. He criticized Stalin by name in his writing.
- Romerstein did NOT recount how Davis tried to turn the NAACP into a Stalinist front. Kincaid misrepresented Romerstein's research of Congressional testimony (http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/hawaii-obama.pdf) by falsely accusing my father of (a) sneaking into a NAACP meeting to convert it into a “front for the Stalinist line” (“Obama’s Red Mentor Praised Red Army”); (b) trying to take over multiple meetings of the Honolulu NAACP (“Obama Plays Reagan In Berlin, Al-Jazeera Journalist Funds Campaign”); (c) trying to take over not the Honolulu Branch, but the NAACP itself (“AP Lies About Obama’s Red Mentor”); and (d) being directly criticized by the NAACP’s Roy Wilkins (“Return of the Dupes and the Anti-Anti-Communists”). In the eyes of AIM apologists these lies may be “insignificant,” but they are VERY significant when levied against my father!
I invite Ms. Phillips, and any other person of integrity, to examine the evidence of Kincaid's deliberate misrepresentation, and to refute ANY of the specific items documented. You are welcome to post your findings as comments in the blog itself.
Zetsubou
September 17th, 2008 2:20amMark Davis has proven none of this and has no evidence to back it up.
Frank Davis is/was a commie. And that's a fact. And Obama will go down for it. Fact.
Verity
September 17th, 2008 3:51amKaleokualoha - There was some big one-worlder group in Hawaii that Obama was involved in, wasn't there? Do you have any connection to that group?
ndm
September 17th, 2008 7:06amThe Washington Post obituary for Reed Irvine, the founder of Cliff Kincaid's organization "Accuracy in Media," states:
Looks like "Accuracy in Media" - and its followers - is stuck in a groove peddling conspiracy theories to any fool willing to listen and publicize them. There are good reasons why "conspiracy" is deemed synonymous with "kooky."
David
September 17th, 2008 7:31amMark my words, next they'll be claiming political opponents require medical attention and accusing McCain of using totalitarian secret police tactics.
Oh.
Canon Alberic
September 17th, 2008 7:36amIm very disappointed by this piece Melanie. Much the same could be said about the youthful connections of many of our own politicans including say Alastair Darling (let alone John Reid): who have scarcely declared the next Soviet; and all of it seems to be enthusiastic participation in Republican smear tactics. Poor journalism, and in poor taste (especially the wierd, gratuitous and offensive sexual smear at the end - whats that to do with Obama?). I expected better from you.
Canon Alberic
September 17th, 2008 7:37amIm very disappointed by this piece Melanie. Much the same could be said about the youthful connections of many of our own politicans including say Alastair Darling (let alone John Reid): who have scarcely declared the next Soviet; and all of it seems to be enthusiastic participation in Republican smear tactics. Poor journalism, and in poor taste (especially the wierd, gratuitous and offensive sexual smear at the end - whats that to do with Obama?). I expected better from you.
Ronnie
September 17th, 2008 7:39amI've just learned that Lenin did not die in 1924 as we have all been led to beileve.
Instead, he was frozen so that he could become one of a series of mentors to the young Barak Obama in preparation for his communist takeover of the White House in 2008.
Lenin was taken to Indonesia and kept in a secret facility in the jungle until the young Obama arrived.
Its an incredible story.
Incidentally, I think you'll find that the South African Communist Party were also adept at fusing the twin ideologies of class and race oppression. I wonder why they felt the need to do that?
Dave
September 17th, 2008 7:47amI just had to pull out this quote;
"Barack Obama is an integral part of a web of radical activists, whose roots go back to a clandestine Communist Party network in Hawaii centering upon his erstwhile mentor the late black poet Frank Marshall Davis, an agent of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA)."
Oh rly?!
Roland
September 17th, 2008 8:22amDelusion and desperation! - and a really nauseating smear at the end of this crazy internet-conspiracy farrago. Shame on you.
jm
September 17th, 2008 9:21amCanon, do you not think that the LAbour Party has been carrying out a communist agenda for the last 11 years?
Surveillance of citizens, ID cards, thousands of new laws designed to restrict freedoms, state intervention in every aspect of our lives?
Seems like a communist era too me...
Ronnie
September 17th, 2008 9:24amMoving on.
Verity, would you please remind your readers why Richard Nixon resigned?
Trevor Loudon
September 17th, 2008 10:12amMark Kaleokualoha Davis is admirably trying to defend his father's name.
However he needs to confront some harsh realities.
The black US poet, Frank Marshall Davis mentored-(and I believe that term is fully justified) young Barack Obama from the age of 10 to the age of 18.
FMD became interested in the Communist Party USA in 1931 and was listed as supporting a well documented CPUSA front, the Committee for Protection of Foreign Born as late as 1973-three years after meeting Obama.
This was no youthful flirtation. FMD was in the CPUSA "orbit" for at the very least 43 years.
FMD followed the CPUSA line after the Hitler/Stalin pact, calling for the US to stay out of the European War. As soon as Hitler betrayed Stalin FMD, like communists all over the world, turned strongly in favour of the war-evening writing poems glorifying the "Victory eating" Red Army.
FMD called a fellow black Party member, Richard Wright, a traitor to the "Black/red" alliance for leaving and denouncing the CPUSA.
FMD was a confirmed member of the CPUSA in Chicago and Hawaii from about 1943 to 1956, when the remnants of the Hawaiian CP went completely underground. He was under FBI surveillance for 19 years and had a 600 page security file.
FMD was marked for arrest by the FBI should war have broken out. Like many of his comrades FMD infiltrated the Hawaiian Democratic Party, while still a confirmed CP member.
FMD was also observed by the FBI taking photos of isolated Hawaiian beaches with a telephoto lensed camera on several occasions. Interesting, when it has been confirmed that the Soviet Union ordered the formation of an Hawaiian CP branch, in order to agitate against the US military presence on the Island.
Had John McCain been mentored by a "right wing" extremist from the age of 10 to the age of 18, you can bet the US media would be over it like a rash.
Sara Palin's underwear has been well and truly rummaged through.
No aspect of her's or her family's lives are considered off limits for the US media.
Why are they far less enthusiastic about digging up the "elephant's graveyard" in Obama's closet?
Trevor Loudon
New Zealand
steve
September 17th, 2008 10:13amMelanie: Considering the way the U.S. financial sector is teetering on a precipice, perhaps you should be looking into whether George W. Bush is a Communist plant? Or maybe there's an Islamic angle to the collapse of Lehman Brothers? I'm sure if you troll around long enough on the Internet you'll find some evidence to enlighten us with.
Ronnie
September 17th, 2008 10:20amjm, in the absence of a violent revolution giving all power to the working class through their vanguard party, what you describe is a fascist police state.
Surprised you can't see the difference.
Nick Kaplan
September 17th, 2008 11:17amNdm; You say “The polls are now pretty clearly showing that, outside the hard right Christianist base there is deep unease with McCain and Palin - and the polling bump she gave McCain has now vanished.”
But since Palin was chosen McCain has gained a 15 point lead among independents and according to RCP has a +20 lead in Electoral College votes (which decide the election). The increasing desperation of your posts serves only to undermine your already weak arguments. You clearly know as well as anyone else that your hero Obama is floundering and that there are serious questions about his candidacy.
Why do you continue to delude
yourself?
Nick Kaplan
September 17th, 2008 11:25amCanon Alberic; your objection would be legitimate were it not for Obama’s continued association with communists and black power activists (e.g. Ayers and Wright), which suggests he has not given up on his boyhood fantasies. Until Obama and the MSM accept he has some serious questions to answer about such associations it is legitimate to keep raising these issues and suggesting that they should disqualify Obama from winning the Presidency.
field
September 17th, 2008 11:28amMelanie -
You seem disapproving of what Frank Davis says:
"What I’m trying to tell you is, your grandma’s right to be scared. She understands that black people have a reason to hate. That’s just how it is. For your sake I wish it were otherwise. But it’s not. So you might as well get used to it."
Given some knowledge of American slavery, and subsequent Jim Crow laws, which involved death through forced labour, rape, murder, immiseration and humiliation of millions of African-Americans, I
wonder that anyone could think otherwise. What was he supposed to say? "Oh, that was just a one-off. Black people aren't in any sense angry about the legacy of slavery. There is no race problem. You're imagining it."?
Would that have been better?
As Canon Alberic, you do seem to be employing a double standard here, being prepared to accept the youthful Communist-leanings of many UK politicians and commentators.
That said, I am all in favour of the truth of Obama's fascinating personal history being made known.
Nick Kaplan
September 17th, 2008 11:31amRonnie says “in the absence of a violent revolution giving all power to the working class through their vanguard party, what you describe is a fascist police state.
Surprised you can't see the difference.”
Fascist police State, Communist State, I’m surprised you think there is a difference.
Conservative Cabbie
September 17th, 2008 11:33amNick Kaplan - I think he might be referring to a poll by of all people, The Daily Kos. I'm sure it's a completely unbiased poll, after all it's the only poll in America that shows Obama to have had a consistent national lead over McCain and that surprise surprise, support for Palin is plummeting.
Mark Kaleokualoha Davis
September 17th, 2008 12:05pmTrevor Loudon has made some very good points regarding the radical background of Frank Marshall Davis. If his colleague, Cliff Kincaid, had also stuck with the truth, things would have been different.
Unfortunately, Kincaid apparently felt that the truth was insufficient, so he fabricated evidence, just as the Bush administration deliberately misrepresented the case against Saddam Hussein.
Truth will out.
Mark Kaleokualoha Davis
September 17th, 2008 12:09pmZETSUBOU WROTE: "Mark Davis has proven none of this and has no evidence to back it up."
RESPONSE: Please read the Congressional testimony of Edward Berman, and the AIM misrepresentation of that testimony. The proof is in the pudding.
Conservative Cabbie
September 17th, 2008 12:09pmAn excellent point from David Frum which I think liberals on both sides of the atlantic are stuggling to understand.
Asked by Lynn Sweet "If Obama is too left — as you assert — isn't Palin too far to the right for the middle-of-the-roaders?"
David Frum replied "But Palin is running as an identity candidate, not an ideological candidate".
Frank Pulley
September 17th, 2008 1:59pmPandora's jar has been opened, the contents are at work. But remember what Pandora managed to keep in the jar - hope!
Thank you Melanie. It's difficult to keep so many balls in the air when trying to juggle with so many facets of activity, when exposing subversion - your display is dazzling.
Trevor Loudon - excellent research and presentation, thank you. The hope in Pandora's jar makes me confident that the US electorate will choose wisely and realise that the 'change' of which Obama speaks is the road to totalitarianism.
Whatever the faults of the free market and global capitalism, and there are many, you only have to look to China and Russia to understand what the alternative entails - remembering of course that both China and Russia have joined the Capitalist economy without abandoning their Marxist ideology. Scary - as a previous poster remarked. Rest assured, some of the proceeeds of their capitalised gains are winging their way West to fund the undergound cells of communism throughout Europe and the Americas, and those who have emerged in somewhat flimsy camouflage as front runners for power pretending to be what they are not, are smattering their rhetoric with the code words that their comrades and puppet masters understand, to reassure them that their money has been well spent. It has taken them over half a century to eat thus far into the Western Corridors of Power; they are just a month away from their ultimate goal. Only the American electorate stands in their way. Make McCain's last stand against communism successful! And let Sarah Palin ride shotgun on his wagon. Thatb would be poetic justice considering his erstwhile suffering in their hands.
Ian C
September 17th, 2008 5:15pmThe good news in this is two-fold:
First that it will surely be very fully aired in the remaining 50 odd days. Watch the 'unassociated' advertising campaigns and blogosphere go for the kill.
Second, and most vital is the US constitution is remarkable for its checks and balances. If elected and this really is his agenda, Obama will be found out. Better that he be found out first I grant. But powerful as the President is, he will be uncovered if he even so much as attempts to implement such an agenda.
It could be a very nerve-wracking couple of years, if he does win in Nov., as he will have a Democrat Congress for that time at least.
Verity
September 17th, 2008 5:43pmIan C - I think we're in for an almighty battle to be pitched - a battle which has been in the making for around a hundred years.
Good and evil. You are right about the wonderful American Constitution. It must be the strongest document ever produced in the history of the world, and than God for it!
john doe
September 17th, 2008 5:56pm'What was he supposed to say? "Oh, that was just a one-off. Black people aren't in any sense angry about the legacy of slavery. There is no race problem. You're imagining it."?
Yes. That is exactly what he should have said. They are no longer slaves, no longer victims. It's time to drop it.
Phillip Reece
September 17th, 2008 6:04pmfeild
You are making excuses for black people I dont here Jewish people damn Germans the way radical left blacks do the US, Slavery was a long time ago, It was a great wrong that has been corrected for over a hundred years but communist black grievance mongers will not let it die, It's too useful to them as a money spinning political lever and it keeps blacks right where these Frauds and Charlatans want them, Poor and mentally Ghettoised.
By the way have you seen the Rev Wrights new house in the lily white gated community, It's Nice.
john doe
September 17th, 2008 6:13pmndm: you are suffering from the newly diagnosed SPDS...Sarah Palin Derangement Syndrome. You have all my sympathy. It must be hard on the nervous system, all that obsessive bitterness. I recommend a nice cup of tea and the Bach flower remedies,Willow, for resentment,and Sweet Chestnut for extreme mental anguish and not to mention a good heart to heart chat with a counsellor who specialises in SPDS.
Verity
September 17th, 2008 7:17pmJohn Doe - SPDS - V good! I will use it!
The Americans have made amends for slavery, by which I mean, they have done everything that human being can do. They can't change the past. They can't change the anguish. They can't change the history of individual families. But they have gone all out to do whatever is possible. They had a period of "reverse discrimation" or "positive discrimination", both of them really awful concepts, but nevertheless, they applied them for a generation until they began to be seen as counter-productive.
But the black grievance industry marches on. There's money in grievance. Ask Jessie Jackson. Ask Al Sharpton. At least they're up front. There are legions of others in the shadows. St Obama was one of the practitioners.
Lucy
September 17th, 2008 7:25pmBut But But Europe wants America to vote for Bambi! Germany loved Barry's so inspiring "I wanna be king of the world" speech. Doesn't Europe know best? I mean, look how great things are working out for them over there what with Sharia courts and similar.
ndm
September 17th, 2008 7:50pmGallup reports today:
The Palin bounce is over.
Adam Holland
September 17th, 2008 7:50pmThis column reads like some kind of sick joke. Rommerstein is not a reliable source of information on anything. He previously achieved a moment of infamy by smearing (at length) I.F. Stone as a Soviet agent. The only problem is his "source" (actually some who was misquoted by someone else) explicitly denied that the accusation was true. Romerstein has refused to recant in spite of no evidence to support his smear.
Now the old McCarthyite red-baiter has been exhumed by the totally scurrilous right wing hit machine. I assume their stench has not crossed the Atlantic, so you may not be fully aware of just how disreputable this bunch is.
Obama's grandfather wanted him to have a black mentor -- and that mentor had been a Communist 30 years earlier -- and the guy had a dodgy sex life. So that relates to Obama how? That's your whole Manchurian Candidate scenario? What a load of BS!!!
Verity
September 17th, 2008 8:44pmJust when you thought they couldn't sink any lower, Little Green Footballs informs us that the left hacked into Governor Palin's personal email account and published several emails and pictures of her family that she had emailed to friends.
Obviously, the password's been changed and pesumably made more secure now, but they obligingly took a screen shot so you can see all the people she has emailed from her personal address.
Obama and his minions are far more frightened of her than they are of Senator McCain - although Senator McCain is certainly proving an able adversary.
Concerned American
September 17th, 2008 9:05pmWith even passing friendships to people like that, Obama would be unable to pass the security clearance to be in the military. Yet, there are people out there who think he should be Commander in Chief? Mind boggling.
Concerned American
September 17th, 2008 9:06pmWith even passing friendships to people like that, Obama would be unable to pass the security clearance to be in the military. Yet, there are people out there who think he should be the USA's Commander in Chief? Mind boggling.
trevor loudon
September 17th, 2008 9:30pmMark Kaleokualoha Davis acknowledges some of my points on the background of his father Frank Marshall Davis, but still has a crack at Cliff kincaid.
In Defence of Cliff, I will say that I have no significant differences with his analysis of events. Cliff, Herb Romerstein, Max Friedman and others have done a huge amount of research on Obama and the Obama/FMD connection and have been extremely scrupulous about it.
Mark has been steadily conceding ground as we have proved point after point about FMD's communist connections.
Yes Mark still disagree's with some parts of Cliff's work, which is fair enough.
To imply dishonesty or bad faith on Cliff's part, however is not.
I have seen most of Cliff's substantial source material and cannot argue with any of the conclusions he has reached.
This is not a personality based attack on FMD or Obama.
It is a quest to determine what may have influenced the thinking of a man who may soon lead what's left of the free world.
May no stone go unturned.
trevor loudon
September 17th, 2008 9:52pmAdam Holland writes "Obama's grandfather wanted him to have a black mentor -- and that mentor had been a Communist 30 years earlier -- and the guy had a dodgy sex life. So that relates to Obama how?"
It relates to Obama this way.
As I have written above, Frank Marshall davis was linked in some way to the Communist Party USA until at least 1973-three years after meeting Obama.
Obama subsequently formed links to supporters of the Communist Party USA, Democratic Socialists of America (despite its innocuous name a marxist organisation) Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism (a CPUSA offshoot) which endure to this day.
The many thousands of members of these organisations (and the myriad trade unions "community organisations" under their influence) are campaigning hard out for Obama right now.
In a knife edge election they may well be able to tip the balance in favour of Obama and the Democrats they have so thoroughly infiltrated.
That's why Obama's boyhood ties to a communist militant are so relevant. Because it was stage one of Obama's lifelong relationship with the US extreme left.
John Birch
September 17th, 2008 10:22pmNick Kaplan: To suggest that these conspiracy theories will actually have an impact on the election results is laughable. What will have an impact is the growing economic chaos which McCain is running away from as fast as he can in the guise of a populist. As Ndm has noted, the polls have already begun to swing back toward Obama erasing any initial boost McCain got from the Palin pick.
Barker
September 17th, 2008 10:27pmExcellent and comprehensive column, Ms. Phillips. I only wish the Liberal media would not effort to suppress and eradicate this information (as they are doing and have been). The "relationships" that comprise the life, mental, emotional and (twisted) spiritual character of Barack Obama -- also his wife's -- is crooked to a point of monstrous. I appreciate you writing what you have here, though I'm sure you'll be ridiculed for doing so. Truth offends liars and the Obama Left is routinely offended by sources who write truthfully.
Barker
September 17th, 2008 10:31pmSome people fall for Communist dictators and never seem to learn from history. Obama is poised to be yet another one of those Communist dictators -- witness even his hapless Hollywood supporters asking in the media for the "devastation" of individual Conservatives (it does not get any more brutal and barbaric than that). Obama's poised to become another Communist dictator and to "change" the U.S.A. into yet another Communist-ruled disaster. Interestingl enough, his history so far reads nearly identical to that of Adolf Hitler, that other problematic National Socialist. The whole debate on the Left is which variety of Communism they prefer.
Rob-NY-USA
September 17th, 2008 11:49pmMelanie
Thank you so much for providing real investigative journalism on this election. You and Michele Malkin are the only reporters who explore the histories of these candidates and their supporters.
Max Friedman
September 18th, 2008 12:08amRe Adam Holland:
I love it when a person decides to show the world how stupid they are. Saves the rest of us from having to do it for them.
His characterization of "herb Romerstein as "not a reliable source" shows tht Holland either knows nothing about Herb (my longtime friend), or is deliberately smearing him in an attempt to discredit his over 50 years of service to America.
Herb was, as a teenager, the youngest full member of the Communist Party USA (in the 1940's), no small feat. However, being intelligent, he quickly saw thru their deceptive lies and webs of subversion, and left it. He served in Korea during the Korean War, and then as a state of New York investigator for many years.
Then he became an investigator (and unofficial CPUSA historian) for the House Committee on Un-American Activities, its successor, the House Internal Security Committee, and later on to the Senate Intelligence Committee and the USIA's anti-Soviet disinformation program.
By the way, he has an idetic memory, and this came out in our May 22, 2008 press conference which released the two reports on Obama and his ties to communists in Chicago and Hawaii.
I mentioned the name of a political organizer (now deceased) from Chicago named David S. Canter, whose friends and cohorts included Don Rose, another CPUSA-fronts member (and Chicago political-maker), who turns out to be the "mentor" of Obama's top politcal advisor, David Axelrod.
Stay with me - we can play "Seven Degrees of Kevin Bacon" for years with Obama and his friends.
At the press conference, Herb mentioned that, in sweeping away the cobwebs, the name David Canter rang a red bell. It turns out that a man by that name (David Simon (?)) Canter was a registered foreign agent of the Soviet Union, because he was importing Soviet publications and propaganda into the US (i.e. Chicago). His partner, Leroy Wolins, was also a longtime member of the CPUSA (and I testified, in 1969, about his activities in the anti-Vietnam movement).
The big question is, and so far we cannot find anything on it, is whether this David Simon Canter (the name he gave in his 1965 HCUA testimony) is the same man as David Samuel (?) Canter, the Chicago political maker, who himself was raised as a young boy/men in Russia, and whose father was an avowed Soviet Marxist.
I'm glad that Herb remembered this 1960's Canter testimony (in which David Simon) refused to provide any information about himself, including his background).
His background, what little is known, parallels that of David Samuel Canter. Could they be one and the same? Further research is needed to resolve this question, but if DSC, the registered Soviet agent, IS the same person as the Chicago politico DSC, then, HOUSTON, WE, No, the Obama Left, HAS A PROBLEM.
Internal security is a very complicated field, and Herb Romerstein is one of the best, ever. He is also a historian and writer of several key books on both American Communism and Soviet intelligence operations (One being on the Venona papers).
Re I.F. Stone, I met him, read his writings, heard him speak, and exposed him for his sponsorship of many CPUSA and SWP fronts, esp. those against Israel (Jewish Week, June 15-20, 1970). The FBI papers on him reveal him to be a Soviet asset, though ocassionally he showed a tactical independent streak. There is no doubt that he was a hardcore supporter of the CPUSA for decades, that his friends were in the DC/Md. CPUSA circle (Bloom, Henley, Gurewitzs, etc), and that he was a communist propagandist all of his adult life (See PM magazine and others he wrote for).
Several people I worked for in journalism knew Izzy and always felt that he was a member of the CPUSA, without reservations, at least during the time that they knew him.
{An acquaintance buried Bella Abzug and said the same thing about her - there is much more of a story here, but for a later time).
So, Mr. Holland - you blog was not an "Opus", musical, cartoon character, or otherwise, but it was a really cheap and typical leftist smear-job on a very honorable America, Herb Romerstein, and it was a pisspoor defense of one of America's top enemies in the so-called "media", I.F. Stone.
I prefer to associate with honorable Americans. You can defend our enemies to your hearts delight, but it doesn't make your smears smell any better.
As Obama might have said, if he had any sense, "You can put perfume on a skunk, but it is still a skunk", and your blog still stinks like one.
Max Friedman
Frank Pulley
September 18th, 2008 12:49amBarker
" The whole debate on the Left is which variety of Communism they prefer."
Exactly!
And if Obama had canvassed on even a modified Marxist ticket he would never have reached first base.
His recent political life has been at least partially covert; his past connections make him unqualified for the highest office in the World. If the President of the United States is not positively vetted, then why should anyone else be? Any candidate for entry into any of the governmental Security Services or key military positions of the Western world would not pass muster with his antecedents. Yet if he were to win this election, he would be ultimately responsible for all of the US Security Services and be Commander in Chief of the US Armed forces. He would also be entitled to be privy to much of the intelligence gleaned by those of the US allies. Which means of course that the Special Relationship would suffer even more damage than it has already, particularly if we ever get a government in the UK that can be loosely described as right of centre. All of this, added to the complete panic within the financial markets and fiscal structures of the West, must be a tremendous fillip to those whose interests are inimical to the West. I once enjoyed a film entitled, "How the West was Won." How long will it be before another film is released: "How the West was Lost." And who will produce it?
judithod
September 18th, 2008 1:23amThank you for bringing Obama's Communist dealings and supporters to light; hopefully, this article will have exposure in the U.S., although the mainstream media is obstinate about not vetting Obama. Many more questions about his personal and professional associations have not been fully probed, particularly those with Tony Rezko and Bill Ayers. Why so many Americans can consider such a shadowy, inexperienced man for the presidency is terrifying.
Mark Kaleokualoha Davis
September 18th, 2008 3:21amI have invited Trevor Loudon, Kincaid, and everyone else to refute any of the specific misrepresentations, including the false accusations mentioned above, and their silence has been deafening. I conceded that there is credible evidence that Frank Marshall Davis joined the CPUSA during WWII, but reject their most outrageous claims including the aforementioned Hawaii NAACP lies, their accusations that he was a "lifelong member of the Communist Party USA," and that "his values, passed on to Obama, were those of a communist agent who pledged allegiance to Stalin."
These are the most egregious lies of the right-wing disinformation campaign, and their fabricated evidence has been debunked in the above-mentioned "Redbaiting Barack Obama" post. Agreeing with Kincaid's conclusions despite his false evidence is like agreeing with Bush's Iraq conclusions despite his "deliberate misrepresentation" regarding Iraq.
The "Stalinist values" meme is the linchpin of their attack upon Barack Obama. Accuracy In Media and the Kincaid Brigade have gone through a lot of trouble to fabricate and disseminate "supporting evidence" for their disinformation campaign. Unbeknownst to them, FMD's son was a retired Air Force Intelligence Officer, trained in Deception Analysis by the CIA in 1989, and Uncle Sam gave him the tools necessary to reveal the true nature of their web of lies. Unbeknownst to them, he would document their deception on the Obama web site as proof of their perfidy.
So called scare quotes
September 18th, 2008 7:26amI'm curious as to why Melanie puts "white supremacy" in scare quotes. Are we to expect she'll soon be referring to "bigotry" and "racism"? Perhaps to Mussolini being a "fascist"?.
I can see as a trend it might catch on. "Anti-Semites" might adopt "the holocaust", and maybe we'll all get used to "the Rwandan genocide" and "the Svebenica (?) massacre".
Of course, timid souls might find this disturbing even insulting, and rather if didn't happen. Careful though the bullies round here might eat you for breakfast. Thought fascism, you see.
So called scare quotes
September 18th, 2008 7:45amBarker (or barking?) This is a joke isn't it? Alas I suspect not. You write
"Interestingl enough, (Obama's) history so far reads nearly identical to that of Adolf Hitler..."
Identical? try giving me even one similarity.
Before coming to power Hilter fought in a war. He led a group of para-military thugs and he spent some time in prison. Unless he was part Jewish (as some have suggested) he wasn't mixed race. He didn't have a muslim father and he didn't grow up in Indonisia and Hawaii.
So "nearly identical" eh?. Do you people ever do a reality check on what you post?
Chuckjones
September 18th, 2008 12:17pmAnd of course it continues.
Two of the prime Communist organizers in the US (from Stalinist and Maoist organizations, respectively) are working hard - through coalitions - to support Obama:
Judith Le Blanc is co-chair of United for Peace and Justice, the largest (over 1400 member organizations) coalition in the Million Doors for Peace campaign that starts on 9/20. The campaign joins pro-Obama PACs and tax exempts in developing a database of new and lapsed voters. They're trying to put 25,000 people out on the streets to develop this database. See the FAQ at http://www.milliondoorsforpeace.org
Judith Le Blanc happens to be Vice Chair of the Communist Party USA.
Tax exempts - under 501 c 3 of the IRS Code - may not engage in partisan politics, but here they are helping PACs - Progressive Democrats of America, Democracy for America (run by Howard Dean's brother) and MoveOn develop voter lists.
Also:
Progressives for Obama was co-initiated by Bill Fletcher.
He is frequently cited merely as executive editor of Black Commentator, and founder of the Center for Labor Renewal.
More interesting - and a problem for Obama I'd think - is Fletcher's prominent involvement with Freedom Road Socialist Organization (FRSO)
http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/20...reds-from-sds/
FRSO's website gives a hint as to how it operates. It acknowledges that it is trying to shed it's "mysterious" reputation.
See their FAQ at http://freedomroad.org/content/view/346/76/lang,es/
Frank Pulley
September 18th, 2008 1:23pmchuckjones
Excellent links. Tell us, are the American electorate getting any of this synthesis from the msm; or is it left entirely to bloggers to disseminate it? Are we really in dire danger of a front man for extreme Marxist groups to occupy the Oval Office? I have otherwise sane and learned friends in the US who intend to vote for him, because he's a 'Democrat' and it seems the whole electorate has become so polarised that the Dems would vote for Joe Stalin's effigy as long he was on the Dem. ticket? Tell me it ain't so, perleeese! Having been comforted by the thought that Uncle Sam is the last bastion against the Communist creep, I now fear that my diminishing days will be haunted by the spectre of a bespectacled cripple writing the game plan for the downfall of the West in an Italian prison cell between the two Great Wars. Bizarre!
fellow traveller
September 18th, 2008 4:48pmImagine! Knowing a communist when you were a kid is a very Unamerican Activity. Maybe the House of Representatives should set up some sort of a Committee to try and find all the people in public life who have associated with communists. Maybe he could appear in front of it and be encouraged to inform on anyone else he knows who also knew a communist, so they could be brought up in front of the committee too! We could draw up a blacklist of people who have ever terrorist fist-bumped with him.
I think the reason nobody's reporting this is because the media must all be communists too, so let's try and get some of them on the blacklist as well. It surely can't be because it's so laughably hysterically stupid that no one could even begin to take a bizarre smear like this seriously.
What bothers me is that if we all attempt to spread a rumour that Obama's secretly a communist we can't simultaneously try to smear him as a closet muslim extremist as well. It's so hard to work out which lies to tell these days.
Verity
September 18th, 2008 6:46pmFellow Traveller - " It's so hard to work out which lies to tell these days."
Try harder.
Frank Pulley
September 18th, 2008 6:57pmFT
If you really were a fellow traveller you would understand what the link is between extreme Islamists and extreme leftists. For example George Galloway and funny friends? Perhaps you are and perhaps you do and perhaps you still think it's a secret known only by those with whom you are travelling on the Long March. As it is you are probably a trusting soul and your real name is Rip Van Winkle. If so. go back to sleep! There are others watching your back, even though you don't deserve it.
Verity
September 18th, 2008 8:53pmRe those who hacked into Governor Palin's personal email address, here's what the story as tracked down by the always outstanding Michelle Malkin writes:
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/17/the-story-behind-the-palin-e-mail-hacking/
You'll be disappointed. It wasn't leftards, but a group of anonymous twits who hack into things and then troll around creating havoc then get fed up and leave. They're not political. They're barely sentient.
Anyway, the left didn't do it. But only because they didn't think of it.
Michelle Malkin is a right on, righteous right journalist and she investigated this all the way thinking she was on to a story.
Ronnie
September 18th, 2008 9:06pmWooaah there! I was just starting to get to grips with all the ists and isms and how really bad people could be lots of different and conflicting ists at the same time.
Are you saying that Geirge Galloway is an extreme communist islamist or an extreme fascist communist islamist?
And Rip Van Winkle! Is he a notorious entryist, fascist Gramscian islamomarxist, with double nobs on?
It is possible to over-label an enemy to the point of stupidity so for God's sake try to grow up and stop calling people silly names that don't make any sense. Its banal.
Matthew Dickinson
September 18th, 2008 10:26pmwhat is a "personal relationship"?
fellow traveller
September 19th, 2008 7:14amI don't want to call you paranoid FP, but if it's an Islamo-Communist insurrection, I don't think more than about half a dozen people in the United States would bother to join in.
On the other hand, if you want to take everyone who disagrees with you, lump them all together as the enemy, and then try to find a link between them to act as their figurehead, then you really ought to do better than an insignificant joke like George Galloway.
fellow traveller
September 19th, 2008 2:12pmSorry to post again, but a few things have ben bothering me.
1. If, for example, my pet turtle started a campaign to register voters to vote for McCain, would that make McCain a reptile by association? Join the dots, as Melanie would say.
2. What the hell are communists doing helping to register people to *vote*? Haven't they read their Lenin/Trotsky/Stalin/Marx? If there's one thing worse than a communist, it's a communist who's too lazy to have a proper revolution.
3. While I'm delighted that Frank is watching the backs of undeserving people like Ronnie and me in the face of the previously unknown but apparently imminent worldwide Islamocommunist-Obamist-Gallowayist revolution, who's protecting the rest of us from Frank? It is all most troubling.
Frank Pulley
September 19th, 2008 2:53pmFT
Yep – an ‘insignificant joke’ - he who has turned the tables on the Daily Telegraph and had some comic relief with the US Senate sub-committee (that seemed a little unprepared for his ‘evidence’); so much of a joke that nobody has succeeded in nailing him, despite many allegations levelled against him. You are no doubt right about him not having much appeal over The Pond, but he managed to persuade enough gullible souls of Bethnal Green and Bow to provide him with a seat in HM Parliament by spouting his pernicious twaddle – though I grant you, if he is an ‘insignificant joke’ he is not the first to achieve that, as about 95% of the current membership of HM Gas Works fit that loose description.
You continue with your fellow travelling, comrade, I’ll continue to march in the other direction, doing what I can to let the bystanders know where The Long March is heading and providing ammunition for those who are trying to halt it and are in a better position to use it.
Moreover, as you seem to have ignored that part of the networks that Melanie has highlighted in her recent articles – more ‘jokes’, no doubt – it seems rather a waste of time addressing a brain that has been so thoroughly washed. You keep heading for Utopia, brother (or sister). Who knows –one day it may stop disappearing over the horizon as the clouds of totalitarian fascism keep looming up to spoil the view.
Ronnie
Apologies if the irony goes over your head and the connections are a bit too complex; but keep trying, old cock. It gets easier the more you concentrate. Try the Daily Kos, you'll get that - more in tune with your mind set.
Verity
September 19th, 2008 3:34pmMax Friedman - Thanks! That was fascinating!!
Did anyone else have posts go astray yesterday? I am getting fed up with the ineptitude with which this site is run. Do they really imagine people are going to put thought and knowledge into a post knowing it will drift off into cyberspace either due to the absence of an editor, or due to the ineptitude of their illiterate techies?
I'm getting fed up with this.
Little Green Footballs typically gets 800 or over a thousand comments on any one thread, and everything works like clockwork. He even has a lot of bells and whistles where people can give one another dings for comments they very much approve of.
The carelessness with which this site is run will have one of two results: people will continue to post, but sloppily - a vague thought dashed off without regard to grammar or composition or logical thought; or they'll drift off.
Verity
September 19th, 2008 4:02pmFellow Traveller writes: "If, for example, my pet turtle started a campaign to register voters to vote for McCain, would that make McCain a reptile by association?"
No, but I'll bet you could get that turtle a slot on Jay Leno.
Frank Pulley
September 19th, 2008 4:22pmI did answer your last post FT and Ronnie's but it seems the moderator has curtailed my right to reply (or perhaps they are dealing with more important things, like promoting the Wine Club). Cheers!
Bill Corr
September 19th, 2008 5:53pmYes, Verity ! Hear bleedin' Hear!!
Total ineptitude. I wrote a long detailed post about Obama's boyhood friend "Frank" complete with dates and explaining that poor wee thirteen-year-old "Anne" was
[a]no cowering victim
and
[b] of marriageable age in several U.S. States at the time of her adventures with "Frank" and his first - black - wife, which was pre-1946.
Which makes "Anne" now at least 75.
Somehow my post drifted off into cyberspace like one of the poor lost cosmonauts whose loss the USSR space program covered up.
Ronnie
September 19th, 2008 6:51pmLittle Green Footballs said this... I was just reading on Little Green Footballs... Little Green Footballs have an all-singing all-dancing blog. Little Green Footballs sent me a birthday card. My T-shirts are all green, with little footballs on them. I'm going to the Little Green Football's convention in the Fall.
Oh my, in the land of Litle Green Footballs everything just seems...right.
Verity
September 19th, 2008 8:55pmI wrote a fairly detailed comment about Obama and his school days in Hawaii and, gosh, it never ran. Doubley suspicious as I had written a similar comment around a month previously, and that never ran either. I think Obama has a major fan at The Speccie.
Frank Pulley I have been defending your honour against cheap imitations - especially as, to my surprise, there are bloggers here who cannot distinguish between Frank Pulley and Frank Pulley's Ethnic Minorifices. (Are they really stupid enough to think it's the same poster?) I have complained to Pete.
If Pete doesn't take action, I may well take it further and complain to Little Green Footballs.
john doe
September 20th, 2008 12:17amVerity: Several of my passionate contributions disappeared yesterday and the result was a creeping disengagement.
Just off for an up-do and some rimless glasses.
Verity
September 20th, 2008 2:34amI never post off-topics. I stick to the rules. But The Wall on a Saturday is dead, and this deserves an audience with a sense of humour:
Democratic Vice Presidential nominee Joe Biden, talking to American TV journalist Katie Kouric about the Vice Presidential Debates 12 days hence, says: "It's kind of hard to prepare, because I don't know what she thinks."
Hat tip, LGF.
Bill Corr
September 20th, 2008 8:04amTo make the case for pedo-depravity [always a sure-fire headline in a slow news week!] against Frank Marshall Davis, concerning his encounters with the 13-year-old "Anne", we can begin with the account in the 'Telegraph' [there's a link in Melanie's article above] and a copy of 'Sex Rebel: Black,' published by Greenleaf Classics in San Diego in 1968 under the pseudonym 'Bob Greene'.
"Anne" - a pseudonym, naturally - was allegedly the instigator of several hot episodes of threesome fun with Frank and his first - black - wife.
This took place in or before 1946, which would make "Anne" not less than 75 now. Can some enterprising journalist of the Martin Bashir school track her down and squeeze a damning quote or two out of her concerning Obama's boyhood mentor?
It might - just - be worth enough votes to tip the scale in a really tight election!
As fans of Jerry Lee Lewis are aware, several Sates had startlingly low ages of legal marriage until quite recently; like the fictional Dolores Haze - Humbert's cherished Lolita - "Anne" was of marriageable age in quite a few States in 1946.
Ronnie
September 20th, 2008 8:45amFrank, you call those sunday school jibes of yours irony?
Concerning George Galloway, while it is certainly true that he has claimed to have some friends on the margins of the world's political life, George Galloway is nothing but a George Gallowayist. He is a talented self-publicist who likes to appear on TV but who has failed to direct those talents in a meaningful direction. To include him in your vast list of enemies is nothing short of political headless chickenism. Is everyone who says anything that you don't agree with a dangerous enemy? Another life to be scrutinised and then demonised?
The US Senate and the Daily Telegraph...please.
Thank you for watching my back, I never knew. I'll be checking shop doorways from now on. Do you wear a green T-shirt too?
Frank Pulley
September 20th, 2008 11:56amRonnie
I'll let you into a secret - btw, I would have thought a man of your wit and perspicacity would have guessed already - I'm Oona King in drag.
It's the drip, drip, drip of useful idiots (or Insignificant Jokes) as you call them, that has eroded our country and culture to the collapsing edifice that it now has become.
Verity
September 20th, 2008 2:47pmBill Corr - "Can some enterprising journalist of the Martin Bashir school ...".
Thanks for the first laugh of the weekend!
Ronnie
September 20th, 2008 5:16pmFrank, I have no choice but to take your word for it. No doubt if this was Little Green Footbals you could post a video of you spouting some silly New Labour formula with a wig on, but there we are... I hope you can keep your bitterness under control.
Honestly, guys like Galloway have got nothing to do with what has happened. That is really skirting the issue and that's what I mean by headless chickenism. He and others like him are a distraction, an entertainment and they are not and never have been a real danger to our society.
Ill considered legislation over many many years has created a fragmented society dominated by a too powerful sense of individualism where whatever is happening 'doesn't affect me'. Our ability to move forward together has been shattered. We don't support each other any more and we have completely lost our way. Policy is discussed and legislation enacted completely in a vacuum, allowing a sense of disintergation to emerge.
Worse, we just sit back and let it happen, unable to organise any kind of demonstration or opposition to even the most obvious examples of the stupidity of our authorities. When that man in North Wales was spot-fined recently for smoking in his own vehicle there should have been a riot. Instead there were a few posts on a Times blog. On another such blog one person said that people should be encouraged to vote BNP and I just wondered who people think should be charged with encouraging people to stand up for ourselves. Where is this magical force?
We sit around moaning and dreaming up the existence of spine-chiling conspiracies to explain not only our dire predicament but how we are powerless to defeat them, as they march to within an inch to the White House. At the same time, significantly smaller groups are organised and are making a lot more effective noise in places of influence and getting things their way.
It seems to me that you have a choice of continuing to waste time as Bill Corr suggests, childishly finding dirt to throw at a presidential candidate by finding a 75 year old woman who has absolutely nothing to do with him. Or you can decide what kind of country you want, stop inventing silly names for your opponents and get up off your backside and campaign for it.
I don't really care who wins the election in November, I don't think it makes much difference as long it isn't an idiot who wants to bomb even more people in countries with strange names than the current idiot.
I do know that if you really think Obama is going to nationalise everything and abolish private property in the USA then you need to get out much more or be institutionalised.
The people who have changed our country in ways that we are far from happy with did not sit around being clever on blogs.
Frank Pulley
September 20th, 2008 8:10pmAnd what did you do in the culture war (that we lost), Ronnie?
Ronnie
September 20th, 2008 10:31pmMy God Frank, why do you all think its even over yet never mind lost? There has been a retreat because the government of the day would not stand its ground for us but they will be leaving very soon, utterly discredited, totally defeated and they will not be back for some considerable time. The counter attack can begin now if people can get organised and motivated.
If a local school tries to abandon Christmas in case it offends a few people then we must kick up merry hell until they desist.
Bombard the BBC with complaints and bombard all of the press with endless complaints about the BBC until they remember how scared they were when there was a real national debate about the licence fee.
Go to MPs surgeries and build a level of pressure that will force MPs to be more representative and realise that the abandonment of our culture is a dereliction of their duty.
Fight local authority elections. Get lected by parties or stand as independents as really good people used to do. Get onto every Health Board and Police Authority and every other organisation that we can think of. And remember that it is a battle and it must be fought no matter what.
You know what Frank? Adopt the Gramscian tactics that you so like to complain about. Get back into the ring and fight the cultural war that is still going on.
Stop thinking the war is lost because it is unending.
fellow traveller
September 20th, 2008 11:26pmThank you Ronnie. A real anecdote to the hysterical craziness that takes over when blogs go bad.
Verity
September 21st, 2008 3:22amThis is really good. Here is the messiah talking to a gathering which seems to be entirely black but might be at Harvard - I don't understand - but anyway, he introduces, with great praise, Rev Wright. But what is really interesting is, this fellow who was brought up in Indonesia and later on Hawaii, where there are essentially no black people, and is a Harvard graduate, gives the whole speech in a black suth-un home boy accent. At one point, this Harvard graduate looks for Rev Wright in the crowd and says, "Whay's he at?"
It is hysterical. Do watch it. What a fake! It's a hoot.
http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?swf=http%3A//s.ytimg.com/yt/swf/cps-vfl56220.swf&video_id=qpzHQ_PC1uI&rel=1&eurl=http%3A//littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/&iurl=http%3A//i2.ytimg.com/vi/qpzHQ_PC1uI/default.jpg&t=OEgsToPDskKYOo5aYaO8Fy7jsl5MfRN3&use_get_video_info=1&load_modules=1
Tuvia Fogel
September 21st, 2008 10:30amPerhaps the most damaging development for the presidential campaign of a man who opposed the war first and the surge later is what looks increasingly like victory in Iraq. Democrats are so frustrated by pictures of families and kids strolling the streets of Baghdad that their unofficial mouthpiece, the New York Times, has descended to what amounts to an obscene nostalgia of daily bombings. Here is an example (NYT, 21st Sept.):
“The Awakening, a poetic name for paying former Sunni insurgents not to kill Americans or Iraqis, could fall apart, just as the Shiite Mahdi Army could reanimate itself as quickly as it disappeared. Politics in Iraq remains frozen in sectarian stalemate … the mountain of oil money, piled ever higher by record oil prices, may become another reason to spill blood”.
This goes beyond praying for America’s defeat – which they’ve been doing for five years – this is actually praying for more innocent Iraqis to be torn to shreds so that their defeatism will not be seen by voters for what it is.
Ronnie
September 21st, 2008 11:17amAnd Frank, here's a tip. Pack in the wise old uncle act, backside in cumfy armchair, pipe in hand.
'And what did you do in the culture war (that we lost), Ronnie?' Give me a break.
You are currently staring at the wall of a dead end. Time to retrace your steps.
Ronnie
September 21st, 2008 11:29amTuvia, victory in Iraq could be claimed when an Iraqi government spoke for and controllled the whole country. Getting tribal, religious and political violence down to 'acceptable' levels is not victory.
The country, one day, will break up. Its just a matter of when and who owns the oil. As it is inevitable then perhaps it is as it should be but at that point one of the real victors will be Iran.
The surge was not a push for final victory it was aimed at achieving temporary stability to allow a national political settlement to be achieved. I do not beleive that has happened, nor do I think it is possible.
I think you can stop cheering for a while.
Frank Pulley
September 21st, 2008 12:38pmRonnie:
I see you didn't answer my question and as the 'moderator' is spiking some of my replies to you, I shall leave you to your rants.
Verity, I did also try to respond to your touching campaign to curb the troll doppleganger - but that went down the plug hole too. Thanks anyway, but don't worry too much. If it ain't hurtin' it ain't working. And Ronnie seems to be hurtin', too.
:-)
Btw; a dear friend sent this to me: looks like our efforts are workin'.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/the_drumbeat.html
Just keep the smoke signals going to explain what the drum-beat means. More and more people are 'getting it'!
Frank Pulley
September 21st, 2008 1:24pmVerity
I just activated the You Tube link you posted at 3.22am.
Thank you. Apart from nailing the lies that have been proferred on the commentary attacking Melanie's recent posts on the 'connections', it also highlights, I'm afraid the sad gullibility of about half the American electorate, who apparently, at this moment in time, are prepared to vote for as POTUS, despite his lies concerning Rev Wright. This link should be viewed in conjuction with the following:
[sri - will come back later, when I have googled it up, my ISP software tends to dump commentary if I leave the page].
Frank Pulley
September 21st, 2008 2:13pmVerity
The link I promised, that should be viewed with the 'Harvard' address, is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3wh2XT4e8M
No doubt you've seen it already, but I hadn't and it's worth posting, again and again and ... ad infinitum (or at least until November).
Verity
September 21st, 2008 3:03pmThanks for the link, Frank P, and I'll go there after I've had a cup of tea. Probably even Michelle can't look at Obama until she's had a cup of coffee.
In the link I sent, did you not notice that he gave the whole address in a black soth'n accent? And he'd never even been to the southern states before he began his joke candidacy? He must have trained himself in the accent, which is rather louche, don't you think?
This is really serious. If a white person had done this, in "sympathy" with the black crowd, he'd have been told off soundly by the NY Times and held up to ridicule. But Obama, who, I repeat, did not grow up around black people AT ALL and, as first generation and only semi-black did not share the centuries of humiliation and pain of the slaves that he is posing as one of, and in any event has a Harvard accent, is suddenly doing a joke Step 'n Fetchit accent and NO ONE REMARKS ON IT? This Harvard educated editor of the Harvard Law Review (even if he got the job through reverse discrimination) is suddenly looking round the room for Rev Wright, to acknowledge him with lavish praise, saying, "Whey's he at?". He should have gone the whole hog and said, "Whayuh be dat homeboy? Lawsy!
Whayah y'all bin hidin' yo' good sef? Y'all stand up, now and put yo' hands togethah, heah? Praise de Lawd!"
Crowd: Hallelulia!
Thomas Sowell must have been filled with contempt. I'm going to Google him later and see if he commented.
Side issue: I see the left has made a statement that the fact that Obama's support is thinning out is proof positive of rampant racism in America. If you don't like our choice, you're a sicko and you're only pretending to have rational reasons. You are a RACIST! Anyone who doesn't vote for our boy is A RACIST!
Ronnie
September 21st, 2008 5:44pmWell Frank, everybody hurts sometime.
I'm sorry the Moderator is spiking your posts.
Moderator, would you mind...
Frank Pulley
September 21st, 2008 5:44pmVerity
Whatever camouflage he employs, whatever lingo he uses to deliver the deceipt, in the Marx is still visible and drum-beat audible. tell me what you think of the American Thinker essay when you've slurped your double shot espresso. The Wall needs your attention, too (if you haven't been there today - I'm just about to check).
Verity
September 21st, 2008 7:07pmThanks, Frank, and no, I hadn't seen it before. My goodness, that man does shout a lot, doesn't he? And all of it crazy. In his long list of grievances (real and - uh - creative) did he really say, "And ten thousand black kids who will never see a golf course!"
Surely he didn't? And, anyway, it's crazy. What about Tiger Woods?
Also, the American Government invented HIV to kill African men. Surely there are simpler and less flamboyant ways, if that is the aim of an all-powerful government? As in, a shot to the head?
And Jesus was a po' black man who lived in a country oppressed by rich white people.
No wonder Obama's nuts.
Verity
September 21st, 2008 8:42pmHere is a column on Obama comparing by American economist and commentator Thomas Sowell - right at the top of my list now that William Buckley has died.
His comments on Obama are all the more valuable because Mr Sowell is black - born in S Carolina and brought up in Harlem. Not an easy start. He didn't even finish high school, and eventually joined the US Marines, with whom he served as a photographer in the Korean War. When he returned to the United States, he got into Harvard, probably on a scholarship that the military gave returning servicemen - and graduated magna cum laude. Then he went on to get a Master's in Economics, and a Doctorate in Economics from the University of Chicago.
Not bad for a black high school drop-out from 50 years ago, eh?
He's a very astute thinker and a first ranking columnist. (The only columnist I love more is Mark Steyn. I can't help myself.)
His pieces on Obama, who he cannot stand, are all thought-provoking. Here's one published just last week. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/idols_of_crowds.html
Frank Pulley
September 22nd, 2008 1:28amVerity
Thank you for the Sowell link. A very good writer who pares his writing down to extremely lucid short essays that capture perfectly the essence of the issue he is addressing. I am reading through his list. One piece that particularly resonated with me was his March 11 post:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/the_costs_of_crime.html
He gets it! I won't offer an extract, because it needs to be read in full; he has already applied Occam's Razor to it and what's left is sheer sagacity.
Now, if he was a candidate for the next POTUS ...?!
Verity
September 22nd, 2008 2:07am"Now, if he was a candidate for the next POTUS ...?!"
No, Frank, because that is not the point. There are lots of Americans who would be better candidates than Obama, and comparing Dr Sowell with Obama just because they are both black - well, Sowell is black American and Obama's café au lait and iffy - is falling into their trap.
That's like saying the Democrats should put up a "girl" against Governor Palin. "I know! Let's get Hillary!"
Thomas Sowell is a lucid thinker with the gift of clarity of expression who is a pleasure to read. He's an economist who has a very acute eye. You cannot burden him with an ambition he does not have!
I have been a fan for years.
Verity
September 22nd, 2008 3:04amThanks for the Thomas Sowell link, Frank P. An inarguable case for locking 'em up and throwing the way the key, so it won't happen under the British/European SS.
Many American states, however, don't go with the liberal programme. New Hampshire, the abode of St Mark of Steyn is one of the few in t NE. But as you go West, you find more independent spirits and thus legislatures.
I don't know what Hawaii's stance on this is, given that the beautious and righteous Obama was born there (maybe) and all ...
Frank Pulley
September 22nd, 2008 11:22amVerity
"No, Frank, because that is not the point. There are lots of Americans who would be better candidates than Obama, and comparing Dr Sowell with Obama just because they are both black - well, Sowell is black American and Obama's café au lait and iffy - is falling into their trap."
Heh, heh, heh! Whoa! You inferred a bit too much from my short and whimsical muse of a last sentence. I was comparing the intellects, rather than conflating the skin colour. I don't care what skin colour the next President has as long as he or she is not a front for the Marxist networks in conjunction with Black Muslim and supremacist groups. Nothing that the detractors have written on Melanie's Obama posts has convinced me that her (and our) suspicions are unfounded. I suppose most Americans would say it’s none of our damned business anyway, but as our destinies are so inextricably linked, I fear it is very much our business that someone halts the incipient complete collapse of the West.
If there was an underlying thought in the question I left in the air, it was that it is unlikely that the US will ever have the chance to vote for anyone of that wisdom or integrity - black, white or hybrid. At the moment McCain is certainly the best option to halt the Long March at the very gates of the White House, but as with our choices of potential 'Leaders' over here, none of them fill my criteria for what we need to save what's left of Western civilisation.
I agree with your analysis on prison policies; found the same thing myself during my American adventures during the 70s - 90s though the turf squabbles between the various Federal, State and multiple local law enforcement and intelligence agencies do lead at times to debilitating muddles, inertia and sabotage. But overall the professional ability and effectiveness far exceeded anything we had then in Britain or Continental Europe. Though I'm out of the loop now, the straws in the wind indicate that the same obtains today. But as we know, inference can sometimes be wrong and other breezes also tweak the corn.
But now we're way off topic. Pity both your and my email addresses have changed since we last communicated that way. My apologies to other posters, but this thread is nearly done anyway, I would think?
Verity
September 22nd, 2008 12:29pmFrank P - you say there's no one to lead us, but don't discount Governor Palin, by then, hopefully, Vice President Palin, four years hence. She has the right stuff.
But I see no one in Britain.
Frank Pulley
September 22nd, 2008 1:16pmJust before this thread does peter out, I offer for your amusement this link:
http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/essays_items/obamas_employme.php
It rrrrrocks!
Ronnie
September 22nd, 2008 5:05pmGood night John Boy!
Frank Pulley
September 22nd, 2008 5:22pmVerity
Hope you're right about Sarah P. I like the cut of her jib and it would be poetic justice if the first two women in the Western World to reach the apex of politics (Maggie T and her) were of the right, given the leftist nature (overall) of the feminist movement. I suppose Golda Meier can't be discounted, but she was a one off and I'm not sure she would have been happy to be included in the phrase 'in the Western World'.
Gerard posted the interview of Sarah being interviewed by Charley Gibson (with intercuts):
http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/bad_americans/prayer_god_and.php
Worth watching (if you haven't done so already; it completely negates the twaddle and misrepresentation that the liberal press have promulgated about the interview.
Verity
September 22nd, 2008 5:27pmFrank P - That was hysterical. Thank you!
Ronnie
September 22nd, 2008 7:07pmOh, get a room!
ahad ha'amoratsim
September 22nd, 2008 10:53pm"been the appalling judgment McCain demonstrated in selecting Sarah Palin as his Vice Presidential candidate without even minimal vetting"
ndm, this particular smear has been debunked so many times that you should be emarrassed to repeat it.
Red Pill
November 26th, 2008 8:53pmI just found my way to this page today.
I invite you to "Join up the dots" on this...
http://itooktheredpill.wordpress.com/2008/08/27/a-different-911-truth/