A woolly cross-breed on the fringe

jose garcia

ouch!!!

oliver

Be fair - at least they want to ban Sharia law...

raymond joseph douglas

Sigh,I know what you mean melanie!I suppose,to be kind,they are trying to avoid flack from PCBBC,or to be seen as "nasty"The trouble is,we need to face up to some uncomfortable home truths in this country!Even the great IDS,was downplaying marriage on radio five today!I blame the british people though.Because we,collectively are in a state of denial regarding family breakdown,the timorous tories dare not speak out!

AF - Austin

Are you kidding me? I am amazed it is that bad. Scary stuff.

Soldier on....you are vital to all of us.

Eddie

They're depraved because they're deprived?

See "Gee, Officer Krupke".

George

It's Melanie Phillips' fault.

It's Richard Littlejohn's fault.

Isn't it always?

The evidence stares these wretched people in the face and they have the nerve to moan at those who would dare point out what’s happening in our pathetic society.

john doe

nice sheep

Verity

I ran across this, a Brit who can certainly talk straight sense, on Little Green Footballs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox2-Wun2dIg

I don't know how he got a guest shot on LGF, except I know that a lot of Americans are horrified by watching Britain swirling down the pan.

Verity

In today's Telegraph, in the Comments section, there is a piece by what we good-naturedly refer to as "a writer" by the name of Liz Hunt, titled: Even Sarah Palin Knows The Game's Up.

Where this snivelling Little Englander gets her American notions from, who knows, but her intellect doesn't reach up to the top of Governor Palin's stiletto heels.

This Liz argues, from the bottom of the viper pit, that the contender for Vice President of the United States isn't fit for office because Marxist Katie Kouric has said so.

Get this, and the debate is still two days away! - "The fear in Palin's eyes means that even she knows it's over and could be exposed at the debate tomorrow night".

Liz has seen "the fear" in Sarah Palin's eyes - two days ahead of time - that even a more immediate charging moose has never seen?

If you want to read envy-laden slavvering communist drivel, here's the link: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2008/10/01/do0104.xml

Here's her toxic closing sentence: "So here's hoping her showdown with Senator Joe Biden exposes her, once and for all, as an ill-judged gimmick that grabbed the headlines but insulted (intelligent) US voters."

Why the "here's hoping"??? Why the sheer, glistening, spitting, hissing hatred?

On the strength of this, as a sentient former Telegraph reader, I've changed my homepage from The Telegraph with immediate effect.

Advertisers, please note. Another one gone.

George

I noticed, too, that when Obama's poll rating dipped, the Telegraph reported his 'private pollsters' were expecting a landslide.

But hang on, if it's private, who disclosed it? Would it be Obama's team? And why would they disclose it there and then? To regain the news agenda?

I do look at The Times but that, too, is just full of looney bins. Anatole Kaletsky's commentary on the credit crunch is just gibberish.

Ronnie

Verity, 'Why the sheer, glistening, spitting, hissing hatred?'

Why are you asking us? You are much closer to the constant expression of these emotions than the rest of us.

As for, 'Why the "here's hoping"???'. I think you'll find that most sane people still can't believe that Governor Palin could be just one heart attack away from becoming President in the next four years. Her close proximity to the launch codes is not something to be celebrated.

Where do you think whats left of the markets will go on the day that she swears the oath?

Verity

When Sarah Palin takes the oath of office, the markets will regain confidence and surge.

The crash was caused by Billary Clintons, ACORN - in which Obama Slime was such a vocal activist and there's one other organisation out to destroy capitalism, out in California, but it's another anagram and I've misplaced its name down the memory hole, but I will try to recover it today. Three things: the Clinton White House, ACORN of Obama Slime, Tony Reszko (did you know he's an Arab, too?)et Cie fame, and this California outfit. All pushing for and demanding low cost loans for falling down properties in unstable neighbourhoods, knowing the banks had no chance in hell of ever recovering that money.

Ronnie

Maybe Verity should be Senator McCain's running mate. She seems to be adequately qualified.

Neil Saunders

It puzzles me that somebody as intelligent as Melanie should give two hoots which candidate wins the next U.S. Presidential election.

Irrespective of the victor, the U.S. will still be indifferent to the outside world except insofar as it is believed to impinge upon the American national interest. It will still inflict the death penalty. It will still be overrun with firearms. It will still be run for all pracical purposes by multinational corporations with the profit motive coming first and the needs of ordinary people coming a very long way down the list. It will still - if it believes it to be in its interest, however short-term - interfere in volatile regions of the world, often against the advice of genuine experts (meanwhile embroiling its satellite nations such as the UK).

Yet the U.S is a dying nation, being hispanicised as rapidly as Europe is being Islamised. Both our continents are in the process of turning from First World societies to Third World ones, while China looks on and laughs.

Christopher Green

I went to several of the fringe meetings that Melanie mentions and I did hear a fair amount that would be expected from typical Guardian readers. Any open discussion of these subjects will always attract their type of woolly headed thinking. Many of the people who asked questions or raised points in the Q&As worked for charities and organisations already in the sectors associated with social work and welfare rather than those with influence within the party.

On the other hand, it is a very positive change in the Conservative Party that we have recognised that the “social breakdown” in society needs to be corrected and that we want to take responsibility. The dead hand of the State has been steadily infantilising the bottom 10% of society and is making inroads into the rest. To suddenly change tack and remove all of the “support mechanisms” would cause too much damage and set back the cause for reform. Families, especially those with single parents, would not be able to cope and there are often no longer the traditional extended families who would or could extend support.

The problem took decades to create and will now take decades to resolve. Politicians and governments will come and go but the do-gooders will remain a constant and so they need to be persuaded of the argument for change because we cannot simply make them go away over night.

Both Iain Duncan Smith and Chris Grayling were very good speakers, have clearly grasped what is wrong and know what needs to be done.