Winston Smith's Britain

Austin Barry

The clocks are striking thirteen throughout this benighted land.

Norm

Unfortunately this is becoming the norm. I have an employee who is asian/muslim and therefore fireproof. He is a poor worker his colleagues have to cover for him but everytime I try to address the situation he plays the race card. I can't sack him and he knows it. I will never employ the like again except that would be racist and land me in more trouble with the 'authorities' so I need to be cleverer than them in future. What a way to run a business.

Vision Aforethought

This is happening everywhere. What I am about to detail is not really as serious, but relates to the shocking victim mentality of the guilty party in many given situations: The other day, I was at Reading Station waiting on a platform. A train pulled in ahead of mine. A respectable lady of about 65 walked towards the train carrying a bag and with a very large wheeled suitcase in tow. The suitcase while large, could easily be lifted onto the train by any capable male - or female if I may be somewhat respectable to the tougher sex. :-) Two railway staff were close by. This is what transpired, and I do not exagerate and wish I had documented it on my mobile phone video camera, but I was too close to the 'action'. a) The two staff (white males of about 38-43) could see she was struggling and made no attempt to assist. (I was ready to help as a backup plan.) b) She made eye contact with them, politely. Nothing! c) She then asked. They BOTH talked back to her in a manner that stunned me - and her. She said something (I do not know what) and one approached her as did the other and they grabbed her case and literally 'chucked' it onto the train throught the open door. d) As soon as they had done this, they both muttered abuse towards the lady as they quickly walked away mumbling below their breaths.

I have observed situations like this on a weekly basis and the reasons for it are a combination of the increasing aesthism of this country, Tony Blair's total lack of moral leadership (he was obsessed with money and oil), the vile me first celebrity culture that has now oozed into every orifice of our society, a focus on punishing the middle classes to squeeze them into bankruptcy through fines and persecution - 'for profit' law. And to think these people run our military who are supposed to project our values beyond our shores. What values exactly? Are we still the 'good' guys? I'm not so sure. Someone give us hope!

Ligger

Why do you think we are leaving in droves. 'The tribe that lost its head' I'm afraid. I daily await the 6am call from the thought police - but I will long gone.....

Barry Larking

The police were bound to take the course they did following a report of racial abuse. We have police force which has been charateristised at the highest levels as "institutionally racist". This is a crime without evidence. The police (and or any substantively 'white Anglo Saxon' body in the land of the Anglo Saxons) are racists by fact of being exstant. One is white and that is racist.

Yet, I find some aspects of this story peculiar; surely it would be the matter of seconds to acertain where this incident occurred – the Disabled Parking Area – and whether the complainant had a right to be there.

It does point out the wisdom of having a witness when dealing with certain contested situations. The consultant ought to have gone to the authorities directly and dispensed with the polite enquiry.

But remember: This is the country which sought to exclude the Gurkhas whilst housing and financially supporting avowed enemies of this country at State expense. They have us on the run and intend to keep matters that way.

Bruno Pontes

Oh God, you in Britain are living in 1984 indeed. What a shame.

Jeff

The obvious lesson to be gained from this episopde is to instantly report any confrontations to the police immediately too ensure that your "storey" is to be on record first.

Straydingo

One word springs to mind "Lunacy" - I respect the writers self control as if it had have been me in the same situation I think I would have had a melt down....I think it may be time to migrate back to Australia.

Roy

Another example of racialism in reverse which is more prevalent than a lot would have us believe. When it's your word against their's, we all know who's word is gospel and whose word is worth little, don't we? A sign of the times and the meek surrender of our country to a thankless foreign host.

HarleyDavidson

I feel sorry for this doctor. However, you all live in an overly politically correct world in Britain where a well intended law is easily bastardized by the very folks who often use well intended laws as a weapon. Thankfully, I am not a politically correct individual nor do I believe in social engineering by elected idiots who have little or no understanding of the society in which they live.

I am of the firm belief if foreigners want to move to my country then they darn well better understand that it is THEM who must conform to my culture and not the other way around.

Second, I don't OWE any foreigner anything. Nothing. Nada! I don't owe you respect unless YOU earn it.

Third, remember you CHOSE to move to my country to better yourself and not to recreate the conditions you just left to come here. This is a privilege and not a right.

Fourth, all and that means ALL the laws of my country apply to you should you be fortunate enough to move here. No exceptions and no excuses.

Fifth, from the outside looking in on Britain it appears you all have created a super class of Muslims, back up by the BBC, and various leftists news outlets in your nation, who have created a nation within a nation onto themselves. A world in which hate speech is the norm, bombings commonplace, mosques the training centers for various terror organizations throughout the world. Riots. Yet, no one in Britain seems to think "what have we done to ourselves?"

It is time to drastically curtail immigration, period! It is time you all changed governments. Time to renew yourselves.

FP

If it is always 'his word against yours' it is only because of the kindness of criminals that the rest of us are not languishing in prison cells awaiting interviews on false, completely trumped-up charges. What if I was irritated by a woman in front of me at the post office queue. Can I just call the police and get her arrested for the hell of it? Clearly yes.

Huldah

What a nightmare experience. And how graciously this consultant has dealt with it.

However, I feel he/she is mistaken not to insist that the police take the offences committed further. They would include lying to the police and wasting police time in addition to threatening behaviour.

Why? Because it is an offence against justice to use threats and false accusations and get away scot free. Our continuing failure as a community to confront uncivic behaviour reinforces the belief of criminals that all they have to do is bluster for long enough and they will get away with their misdemeanours, misdemeanours which threaten all our liberties and make our lives a misery.

Teachers (of which I am one) see this type of behaviour all the time; disruptive students are challenged over their anti-social behaviour. Their response - a torrent of abuse and accusations, which are then have to be taken up as a complaint, often against the member of staff. In my school, thank God, the rule of authority still holds sway but in others colleagues know all too well that challenging anti-social behaviour will involve such a rigmarole of forms and interviews - and frequently result in the perpetrator being let off by some senior colleague who is more interested in 'relationship building' with disruptive pupils than of putting themselves in a position of authority by standing up to them - that it just ain't worth it!

Go back to the police, sir or madam. Make that complaint.

Andy Gill

I would have made a forceful complaint against the van driver. At least it might have given him a few sleepless nights, and brought his behaviour to the attention of his employer. And maybe it would deter the police from making arrests when they know nothing can be proved.

If we don't stand up to these scumbags, they'll walk all over us.

Confused

There was nothing Orwellian about this incident at all.

Yes, it was a disgrace.

But a complaint was made to the police (and incitement to racial hatred, let's not forget is a crime).

The police investigated the incident, acted politely and appropriately and nothing came of it.

I can well appreciate the sense of injustice that the consultant had, but this incident does not show that we live in some sort of police state - rather the opposite.

Miv Tucker

Despite your correspondent's protestations of the police's scrupulous fairness, what's most disturbing about this is that they were there to make arrests first, and ask questions later.

Although the sergeant said it was the doctor's word against his accuser's, the police were clearly giving the accuser's word more weight.

It would be interesting to know on what basis the doctor was arrested - what he would have been charged with.

Lee Laurie

"The police were fair"....yet on "one persons word against another",they took fingerprints,DNA and photographs.Surely they should only be taken when someone is charged with an offence and,if as in this case,no one was charged why are they not destroyed.
Welcome to Winstones Britain indeed.And everyone is worried about the BNP !

Worried of Windsor

I think he is letting the police off pretty lightly here. They had a complaint from a 'member of the public' who had apparently flouted the disabled parking rules, argued with hospital staff and (presumably) the security people. Probably also has some 'form'. So, who do they go after? Right, the soft target. Don't be beguiled by a polite manner, this gent was being interviewed as a precursor to consideration of a charge. Hardly a minor formality.

ps. Most medics of my acquaintance are pretty wary of the great unwashed and with particularly good reason, in my experience, if within the orbit of the A&E department.

kiwi

I know hindsight is such a wonderful thing... it's a great pity this doctor had not been able to take a photograph (mobile phone with a camera maybe?) of the Volvo, and its anti-social occupant, clearly parked in the disabled bay - that would have been a good start for the cops to have reversed the situation, and then taken the appropriate action.

Corin

The police should have investigated first. There would have been no need for an arrest and no need to take DNA samples etc. However, it is clear that they are under orders to expand the database by all means possible. Wrongful arrest, wrongful imprisonment' (he was detaine), false accusations, wasting police time - unless you count the DNA, verbal abuse, intimidating behaviour etc. etc. Find yourself a really good lawyer and hit back - hard.

John

I strongly advise anyone in these situations NOT to attend without a solicitor and NEVER accept a police caution! These situations are happening because of the National Crime Reporting Rules imposed by the government and enforced by weak willed police officers who cannot use discretion. I only wish it had been an MP instead of a consultant, perhaps then some action in Parliament would be taken.

Ronnie

I'd like to echo what Lee Laurie and Corin are saying. Are we all to be arrested under whatever pretext, to have our DNA captured for the database?

Why was this man arrested when a simple investigation of the situation would clearly have sorted it out?

Wily Trout

The state has discovered that it's much easier and cheaper to attack the victim than the perpetrator.

Paul B

Why do the police have to arrest prior to interview? Surely they can conduct an under caution interview without the need to arrest- if the person, in this case the good Doctor, refuses to take part in the interview, then the arrest can come in. This happens a lot in Domestic case nowadays-without belittling the seriousness of domestic violence, the presumption on the police side from the anecdotal evidence I have heard/seen, is that the male is guilty until otherwise proven and normally always arrested on the say so of the female involved-without evidence or listening to the males side of the incident. This is the same with racists incidents. As a writer above points out, if the police had investigated prior to arrest, they could have reasonably been expected to discover that the male making the accusation was unlawfully parked in a disabled parking bay, and whilst this is not an excuse for him to be racially abused, must shed a seed of doubt in the police`s mind as to the cause of the incident.

The Doctor should be applauded in asking the male to move, we as a society need to become self policing if we are ever to regain a peaceful society. We rely too much on the authorities. On the other hand, the authorities need to learn to investigate situations correctly, getting the background info right, prior to jumping to pre-programmed conclusions

Familiar Clown

I am no expert on these matters, but it is obvious that this consultant became as much a victim as if he had been stabbed (though obviously not such a serious one) by the coloured man whilst speaking to him. Therefore, there should be a scheme in place which allows people in those unfortunate circumstances to add a notice to such data files which, though not removing the entry, at least allows them to explain why such an entry is there in the first place. Then any future employer checking records would be able to understand why the material was there.

Also, why can't it be made a serious offence, not a minor one, for people to use false accusations of racial abuse as a weapon, or for spite, or any other motive?

Frank P

Confused

Indeed you are! Corin has already answered your ludicrous apologist comment on behalf of the police. They had no evidence whatsoever to detain the Doctor and order him to attend anywhere; he should indeed pursue this with vigour. In fact he has been remarkably generous in not being more sanguine in the complaint, by suggesting that the police should be respected for 'the impartiality and courtesy and the fact that they will take a very serious and unpleasant accusation seriously'.

Oh really? To deprive someone of their liberty and put them through a process of interrogation (albeit 'polite') and forensic examination with no evidence other than a malicious, uncorroborated allegation is egregious behaviour.

If a person in the Doctor's position is intimidated into bending over backwards to excuse their behaviour, when he is indeed the victim of it, things have now reached a pretty pass, as Melanie implies by her excellent caption to this post. The law itself is a braying donkey in these matters, but the apparent willingness of the police to slavishly follow the dictates of a Gramsci-inspired government and turn the tables on an innocent and well-intentioned medic questioning the behaviour of a boorish Volvo driver in the curtilage of the hospital he works in, exceeds even the worst nightmare of Eric Arthur Blair and is indeed beyond belief. One wonders what EAB would think of the antics of his two namesakes who are directly to blame for much of this Orwellian idiocy. Ingsoc indeed!

Unfortunately the consultant probably has enough on his plate attempting to heal the sick and attending to his wife's illness to become embroiled in a lengthy process of biting back for the gross injustice of this incident. Thus such behaviour will continue, unabated in either its oppressive injustice or its doltish stupidity. If common sense is removed from policing, then so is its purpose and justification. It merely become an instrument for state oppression. The plummeting of esteem in which the police were once held is completely justified.

Bill M

Confused--you are.

This man claims to have politely asked a guy parked in a handicapped zone (without any visible card allowing him to be there) if he could please display a card. Apparently the man never came up with the card but rather told the gent to f-off. Though the gentleman had a valid reason to ask the man to move as his wife was disabled, he did not. What did he receive for taking the abuse from the scofflaw? Arrest, fingerprints, and DNA now permanently in the files and a brand new police record.

"...and nothing came of it"???

Back to your hole!

Matt

As Enoch predicted, it is easy to see who has the whip hand in our sociey these days.

Nuke08

It seems to me that the UK has slipped into a totalitarian without even knowing it. This does not bode well when lord Obama steals the election in November. I can see his administration seeding with nothing but thought police and inflicting similar policy here in the States. What is it that people find so welcoming in Marxism? Especially since it has brought so much misery to people. Cheers.

Tiberius

Like may half-wits, who have schmoozed their way into influential positions, MacPherson has a lot to answer for. Treason, perhaps?

Roger Thornhill

At the centre of all this something most people are taking for granted - the idea that "racial abuse" is some kind of crime outside of other abuse. Abuse is abuse. Period. We do not need the concept of it being "racial". We need an end to special cases. If that were the case, it would just be, at worse, two people abusing each other. One being a person incorrectly parked in a disabled bay and the other not. Makes things very clear now, doesn't it?

The Orwellian aspect is the Thought Police. Dividing one group from another. The database of DNA and "criminal" records.

Frank P

I have just received a call from the Thought Police who have ordered me to attend my local Police Station; apparently they have received a complaint that I described someone as a 'Volvo Driver'; a term which is proscribed by the new anti-discrimination laws and defined as a gross slur, likely to incite hatred and a breach of the peace. Should you not hear from me further, you will know that I have been despatched to the retraining camp secreted behind barbed wire in the grounds of Bramshill National Police College, designed to incarcerate and reprogramme undeconstructed police retirees who have still not seen the error of their ways and who are likely to pollute the minds of their brainwashed heirs and successors. I shall rely on Melanie to spring me (if indeed she is not already incarcerated with me). Better still, perhaps we can organise the counter-revolution from that encampment, which has been designated The Hartley Wintney Gramsci Gulag.

Aux armes, citoyens !
Formez vos bataillons !
Marchons ! marchons !
Qu'un sang impur
Abreuve nos sillons !

Joe Camel

Is it part of a consultant hospital doctor’s job to check up on who is using which parking spaces? I don’t think so.

Bruce Mclaughlin

I think that you have missed the main problem here. Supermarkets, airports, hospitals etc have all given over acres of space (the best space, naturally) to "Disabled" Parking.
Most of know that a great many "Disabled" badge holders are nothing of the sort.
The PC mindset that has created this resentment is problem and not the odd person who abuses these minor regulations.
Finally, given that we must have petty and unfair rules, they ought not be enforced by "do-gooding" members of the public.
As on who would move Heaven & Earth to help the disabled, it ought to be apparent just how broken our culture of Petty PC rules is.
There are simply too many rules and too many "minority" interests in Britain.

Paul B

No its not a consultants job to check on up on who is using (lawfully) disabled parking bays. Rather its the duty of us all, to keep an eye on these matters, and to attempt rectify these quality of life issues at the earliest opportunity.

I hope no one ever parks across your driveway or garage and blocks you in, or that you should ever have the need for a disabled parking badge Joe Camel,- your post reveals much a lack of common empathy on your behalf.

Helen

Confused - you certainly are.

Dropping litter is also a crime but you don't see police chasing everyone who does so.

We live in a country where the police often don't attend urgent 999 calls on things like violent crime (I've had first-hand experience) yet here they are running after this. So what's different?

There was no criminal damage or violence alleged, just 'He said this...' and this somehow leapt to the top of the police priority list.

Alleged violent crime - forget it. Alleged theft crime - forget it. Alleged vandalism crime - foget it.

Alleged thought crime - the full power of the law descends. That's the difference. It's the only crime in Britain that counts - everything else comes off second.

Conservative Cabbie

Roger Thornhill

Spot on. Surely a crime is a crime regardless of the motivation. If I beat someone up because I'm a turd, is that any worse than beating someone up because they are gay or a different ethnicity. I don't believe so.

We all need to fight this creeping totalitarianism before it gets out of hand. To the streets! (Or write a letter to your M.P. if your reserved like me.)

Frank P

Joe Camel

Seems it is easier for a Camel to go through the eye of a needle than to get the point!

... which is ... that whatever the merits or otherwise of the challenge over the parking place, the altercation did not reach the point that the police needed to intervene in any way shape or form; it was none of their business (private premises for a start) and the (Volvo) car driver (we've all met 'em, haven't we) should have been told that by the police and advised with an imperative that was only just short of the one he himself issued to the consultant. Now that would have been common- sense policing.

Worried of Windsor

Frank P.

Not all Volvo drivers are bona fide, you know. I had a Volvo once and got a call from the local police to enquire as to its whereabouts. I told them it was outside the window. Strange, they said. As it was also outside there's, in the station yard. Seemed it had been cloned and it was only because a young constable had spotted mine and its doppelganger but a mile apart that the criminal's ruse had been foiled and he arrested. Just goes to show, even Volvo drivers can be miscreants these days.

Ron Todd

Vision Aforethought

Aithiesm has nothing to do with it. I am not religious and I have helped many people with bags on trains.

Anybody that has worked in the manufacturing industry in this country will have seen the racism card played.

Paul

Roger Thornhill nails it.

JL Carter

Joe camel makes the point,'Is it part of a consultant hospital doctor’s job to check up on who is using which parking spaces? I don’t think so'. That statement shows how we have abrogated all responsibility to a few uniformed individuals to tell others when the law is transgressed for fear of the consequences of doing it ourselves. People have been kicked to death, because people like Joe Camel believe that nobody, and I mean nobody, has the 'right' to point out to them when they have transgressed. A cop hardly has the right, and certainly not a fellow citizen - that's why they respond with such vitriol & often semi-justify such violent or abusive over reaction. The rest of us scatter in fear of telling offenders, and in desperation we turn to those few in uniform who get paid to do it, and then react angrily and in frustration when they are not present on the spot to do our bidding.

Geoff M

I too have seen false allegations. After about 3 years of mentoring an Asian employee, who consistently failed in her duties, was called into a "disciplinary" meeting, by her female manager, to formally talk about her failings and try to grab her attention with the intent to improve her performance through training, support and effort.

This was met by accusations of racism, bullying and sexism.

The manager was subjected to a "trial" and, without my intervention, would have been denied professional support whilst the employee had the full backing of her union. The HR department meanwhile hid under their desks !

Fortunately truth will out and the claims were found to be false and the employee left.

So to did the manager and I (the finance director). Neither of us could entertain working for an employer that was so cowardly as to fold up when any of the "..isms" were shouted out.

It seems to me that the racism in the above case is directed towards an indoginous Briton. This is acceptable in the UK now.

The UK disgusts me - I now live in France !

Many thousands are now leaving - taking their capital, talent and patriotism to countries that value us.

Herbert Thornton

This isn't anything new. Many years ago on a visit back to England - around 1966 I think - I remember stopping at a petrol station somewhere in the midlands or south east. My car windshield was really dirty & I asked the attendant if there was a squeegee or something that I could use to clean it. His response - not a single word. He just picked up a dirty rag and threw it at me.

That was only one example. I left with the impression that a lot of people were surly, sullen, rude and resentful, with large chips on their shoulders.

Now I read that some districts have become what are called No Go areas.

From everything I read and hear, it sounds like more and more parts of the country are becoming No Go areas.

Even worse, both of the two main political parties seem determined to ignore the problem, to do absolutely nothing to remedy it, and are indeed determined to deny that any problem exists.

Joe Camel

Paul B and Frank P,

I fully agree with everything that was said in the posts prior to my own. The driver of the other car is evidently a liar and a coward and ought to be prosecuted for wasting police time. They do these things better in Illinois, it seems. Have a look at this news item from a recent issue of the Chicago Tribune:

“A Muslim student who said a masked gunman assaulted her after he wrote anti-Muslim slurs in a women’s restroom at Elmhurst College has been arrested for filing a false police report, officials said today. [. . .] Elmhurst Police Chief Steve Neubauer said officers had cited Safia Z. Jilani, 19, of Oak Brook, on a single count of filing a false police report. Filing a false police report is a Class 4 felony, punishable by one to three years in prison.”

In the present case, the police themselves caused further disruption and harm by going after the doctor in the way they did. There was a cartoon a week or two ago (in the Speccie, I think, though I can’t be sure) making this very point: it shows a policeman making trouble for an old lady whose dog had, as they say, “fouled the footpath” while unobserved behind his back a hoody is calmly going about his stabbing business.

Both the other driver and the police officers were, of course, guilty of very much worse behaviour, each in his own way, than the doctor himself. However, none of those earlier posts drew attention to the fact that the doctor’s action was evidently, in my reading of his account, that of an officious jobsworth. The doctor had not been prevented from parking in an available disabled space: the Volvo was occupying an adjacent space, he says, not the space the doctor would otherwise have occupied himself.

I would contend that overzealous enforcement of the rules governing reserved parking spaces is as symptomatic, in its minor way, of Orwellian Ingsoc as overzealous enforcement of the rules governing racist attacks.

paul

We have commited demographic and cultural suicide in this country. When you ride on the back of a tiger you never know when you can get off. One thing is abslutely certain and that is that Enoch Powell was right all those years ago. Forget rivers of blood he was warning of the effects of mass immigration and one group being subjugated by another.Wait till the next election and you will be surprised at the weight of votes for so called extremist parties

groovy times

Police priorities are based on the easiest way to meet their arrest quotas. Police, like the other public services have been politicised over the last decade by Brown's Stalinist mindset of making public sector workers accountable by target setting. The result is our public services are now run by corrupt beauraucrats and number-crunching apparachniks who care only about meeting those government imposed targets and making sure it all looks kosher in the virtual world of graphs and numbers. So what do we have - police cautioning someone for riding a bicycle on the pavement while the criminal class are conveniently ignored. Someone like our good doctor is another successful arrest statistic, because a caution is an admission of guilt after arrest for a criminal offence - and that's what the sychophantic mandarins who run our schools, hospitals and police stations care most about - meeting government imposed targets.

anne

My son had a knife put to his throat by a pakistani youth (man in his twenties)and my son was racially abused by this man. He lives a few doors away from us. Police response - take a guess!! nil Colour of my son - guess. Plenty of white witnesses not interviewed. Asian man who did not witness the event gave a pack of lies and guess what - beleived. What a wonderful world!!

logdon

This so called 'racism' stuff is really getting out of hand. I was just in a supermarket electrical dept when a man of Pakistani appearance and robes tried to buy a mobile. The girl refused and off he went in some sort of semi tirade. She still refused and after a while he left. Intrigued I asked what it was all about and it seems that they buy them and fiddle with the Tesco network chip then resell them in Pakistan. The detail eluded me but what didn't was her comment as to how the race card comes up time after time when this sort of situation occurs. Now it just so happened that she was Chinese, so as she quite markedly pointed out, he couldn't pull that one. So it seems that if you are not of native British appearance it's an own goal, however if you are of Chinese extract (or I guess anything other than white) you can challenge. What the hell is going on? This is Britain, for God's sake not some banana republic yet judging by the above story being of Anglo Saxon appearance is now a disadvantage.

logdon

"It is time to drastically curtail immigration, period! It is time you all changed governments. Time to renew yourselves."

On this note I see Phil Woolas is backtracking like the slippery sidewinder he is on immigration. So much for that little canard. I wonder who had the 'word in his ear'?

Straydingo

This post is slightly of topic but I had to share this link with you all:

http://tinyurl.com/5b2xr8

Its no wonder why the art of debate is no longer practised....as the left have solved all the problems of the world so whats the point.

Daniel

I have lived out in the South Western suburbs of Sydney all my life, and the number of racial incidents , many I have seen(Including racially motivated gang bashings), has been staggering.
The odd thing is that, nearly all of these incidents involve people of certain ethno/race groups of non english speaking background.
Even my sons primary school(99% non english speaking background), has had constant problems with racism(Against students and teachers).
Yet, these incidents are never shown by the media.
Had any of these incidents involved whites(students or adults, of english speaking background), the media would have went into a feeding frenzy.
We have had a massive cover up taking place in Australia for over thirty years.
If this continues(Cover and spin by the authorities), we will more than likely experience more incidents(Cronulla), like that which transpired a few years back.
Sweeping these problems under the carpet is folly, indeed.

Nicholas

The arrest seemed heavy handed and unnecessary. The police have adopted ludicrous operational procedures where it seems anyone accused of anything is immediately arrested and treated as a criminal before any preliminary enquiries are made. That is unacceptable but they seem completely unaccountable.

Even more unacceptable is the retention of photographs, fingerprints and DNA of an innocent person.

This has got to be stopped. Labour have a lot to answer for. They have turned this country into a madhouse.

Norm

Just to clarify a point. A private car park that is open to the public as this hospital car park was is considered public space and subject to the Heighways Act for the period it is open. Just the same as a shopping centre car park. It's only when the centre closes that it becomes private land again.

JJ

Wow. Even if he had called the guy names, since when is that an arrestable offence?

Paul B

Straydingo- Thanks for the link. I think you will our find our Mels is on the case about left wing thought plod academia and has already locked horns with them on more than one occasion. Have a look through her blogs achieves, it will be worth your effort

Hayward Maberley

Mr Pulley.
Who would have thought that you were so full of revolutionary fervour.
C'est magnifique, mais fâchez vous vos compagnons du droit extrême avec ces mots?

Dora

I used to be a member of two unions, but it was witnessing situations such as those spelt out by various posters here that made me jack in both memberships.

If you're white, culturally, you're second class and prejudiced against.

And this useful idiot was paying for the privilege. Not any more.

Juanita C Porter

This poor fellow got it all wrong. In this day and age, you never confront someone. Just go straight to the authorities, let them do their job.

James Hodson

My sad admission is that I quite enjoy watching police, camera, crash, arrest programmes on whatever cable channel they happen to be broadcast. They probably make me morally superior somehow.

I have noticed in these programmes that the more aggressive sort of copper refers to the public as "civilians", and I find this quite disturbing.

One of the founding principals of the police was that they were supposed to be civilians - ie non-military.

It also seems to me that the police are now becoming so non-judgemental (the most heinous crime in our PC world) that they have lost all sense of what is right and what is wrong.

david of currumbin

Straydingo
http://tinyurl.com/5b2xr8
your article in the SMH is certainly one that should be read by Melanie.
Certainly it brings meaning to the expression by Gramsci of 'the long march through the institutions'.
and how surprising to see it appear in the SMH a bit like reading it in the Guardian really.
It is a huge problem which has worsened throughout decades and is now a form of entrenched tribalism. The same kind of thing also infects the BBC and tribal dissent is swiftly punished.
Possibly the police have taken this in too and hence the attack on the poor doctor.
woe betide if you are not on the list of officially proscribed victims.

Justice?

My niece has been subjected to bullying and verbal abuse by her neighbour for over two years after refusing to obey orders not to use a car parking space on a public road. The neighbour is a nasty liar who happens to be from the Ukraine. As well as depositing waste in my niece’s garden and throwing it over her walls overnight, the neighbour has cameras and floodlights pointed at my neice’s house and has repeatedly summoned the police and anti social neighbour team after making false accusations of harrasment against my niece. Over that time, my niece was advised that she was not allowed to install her own CCTV to collect her own evidence, and the authorities did nothing to have the neighbour’s removed. She was told that she should log the incidents of bullying and collect the evidence by other means. The bullying culminated in my niece being charged with racist abuse (words) after she challenged the neighbour while she was deposting food waste by her gate. I have never heard her using anything like the language or phrases she was alleged to have used and she absolutely denied using them. The following day, leading up to her being charged, this vulnerable and sweet woman, who spends her time with her aunt and granny and walking her dog, was arrested around midnight, searched, swabbed and imprisoned overnight . Right until the case reached court a year later, the woman continued to harass and bully her. Neither the police nor the local neighbourhood teams would do anything to help my niece. The police warned that should she drop so much as a piece of litter outside of the neighbour’s house, it would be treated as racist and threatened to DNA test an apple core later found in the neighbour’s garden which she summonned them to investigate, accusing my niece of throwing it. My niece told them that she would be happy for them to do so, knowing it was nothing to do with her. Only my niece and neighbour appeared in court as witnesses to the alleged racism. There were no other witnesses to the altercation and no other evidence. In court, the neighbour performed well as "victim", invented more lies on the witness stand, changed the details of the statement she had made and as "a credible witness" in the words of the magistrates, had my niece convicted of a hate crime.

Byron in Wahroonga

Moonbattery.com posted an amazing list yesterday- people who've faked hate crimes to advance themselves, or score points. Just as in this case. Here's a link:

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2008/10/safia_jilani_jo.html#comments

Neil Saunders

Madness, sheer madness!

All of us, years ago, who saw this coming and tried to warn against it, were laughed to scorn or at least patronised and told to lie down.

The problem is that political correctness has been institutionalised in precisely the way that MacPherson claimed (falsely) that "racism" was (according to the tendentious definition offered in his Report), and none of the mainstream parties has any intention of unravelling it.

Things will get far worse before there is any prospect of their getting better. I believe that we shall see the breakdown of civil order in this country because of the toxic combination of uncontrolled mass immigration and political correctness.

Lee Laurie

Where is "Phil" when you need him/her with his/her faith in politicians?
I still can't believe that anyone,even in a Britain gone pc crackers,can be finger printed,have their DNA taken and when no charge is made the aforementioned aren't destroyed !
In the "old days",I believe,that finger prints were only taken where they could be of use in finding the culprit of a crime....surely not the case here...and if the person involved was not charged the finger prints were then destroyed.Now it seems that not only are they not but a persons DNA is taken and kept.For what reason ?
If the "public servants" running affairs in Britain wish to keep a DNA data base then perhaps a good start could be made with collecting the DNA of every illegal migrant,or whatever, who is shown the door.Will it happen?Don't hold your breath.......that would be terribly non pc wouldn't it.
No wonder there are conspiracy theories about.

Eric The Red

Britain has gone mad.This guy was jailed for two days for revving his car up "in a racist manner". I hear NZ is looking good these days.
http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2007/10/racist_enginere.html

Neil Saunders

I might add that this sort of lunacy is inevitable in a society where key public policy is shaped (often in great secrecy) by unrepresentative, unelected, unaccountable organisations such as Stonewall, Common Purpose and the Evelyn Oldfield Unit.

It would be interesting, for example, to know how many Common Purpose "graduates" are in the upper echelons of the Constabulary concerned.

MikeNZ

why didn't the police check with the hospital security before "arresting him"?
surely,that would have given corroboration of his story.
or
do they just go through the motion to garner dna samples?

Nicholas

JJ: "Wow. Even if he had called the guy names, since when is that an arrestable offence?"

Since the Serious Organised Crime and Police Act 2005 which made ALL offences, no matter how trivial, arrestable thus triggering powers to obtain DNA, other other intimate samples, fingerprints and photographs of those arrested, to be retained forever, regardless of whether they're charged with or convicted of an offence.

More here:

http://www.magnacartaplus.org/civil-liberties/attacks.htm

Read it and weep for what was once a bastion of democracy, individual liberty and freedom.

Peter J Lusby

I am deeply sorry for the distinguished medical professional, not for this experience, but for his having succumbed so completely to political correctness that he can assert that he finds racism "in any form... disgusting."

Let there be no misunderstanding. Diversity does not enrich a culture, rather it is a cancer that eats a culture away from within, until it ultimately destroys it. Bigotry, prejudice and intolerance are the white corpuscles in the bloodstream of a culture. Their role is to prevent, or at least slow, the invasion of alien ideas, attitudes, values and traditions. A culture which outlaws these natural and beneficial defence mechanisms has signed its own death warrant. Those who tells us that we must embrace diversity are asking us to commit cultural suicide. Beware of them. Their motivation derives from a belief, a certainty even, that our culture has nothing worth preserving, and that it must give place to something different, usually of their own design.