Lunacy at the Yard

trumpeldor

Sorry melanie,nothing new under the sun !
Jihad watch from Robert Spencer detected this mole a long time ago
Thank you so much to reveal these news to a broader public though !

Byron in Wahroonga

I'd say 'mind-boggling', but I'm just numbed at the never-ending flow of stupidity that comes from those charged with defending Britain. The only way this kind of cock up can be understood is if we accept that people like Lambert are more concerned with protecting their own job, than protecting the country. Naive of me I know but will Queen Elizabeth say nothing about her government's string of disasters, in this year's Christmas message? Surely her role cannot be solely ornamental.

Robin

What else should we expect? The Metropolitan Police is no longer a "Force" or a "Service".

It is a self-serving end in itself.

concerned ex-pat

How does one articulate 'outrage,' 'beggars belief,' and other such feelings? In this case, I contend the problem lies with Lambert and others like him, perhaps even his superiors. Yet again the blame lies with the whole chain of superiors. The problem is: from who does such a chain first start?

Knowing no other link, and as Lambert is happy to try to justify this more or less sanction of future atrocities, let us take Lambert as the first cause.

An example has to be made of Lambert. He is the problem - for the UK, not Harrath. Because we have a Lambert as commander of the Police, we have Harrath.

I say, we hand Lambert.

W.B. Harris

By consensus – let the Fox govern the Hen House – brilliant idea for fools – what’s next, the Royal family marry Jihadist to try to avoid terrorist actions on Britain soil?

Matthew Roberts

So let me get this straight. If you are a member of the BNP you cannot join the police force, sorry, service. However if you are a radical jihadist you can occupy an extremely important position that could have massive repurcussions for our security. Something rotten in the state of England me thinks.

Dee Ranged

Meanwhile, MI5 and Mi6 remain obdurately silent!

Robbit

What is the matter with this country? It is like a bloody Roman farce. It is completely beyond a joke, though.

Stuart

why didn't Britain ship this jihadist off to Tunisia? Given how Muslims in the Arab world have been so victimized by jihadi terror, how can the government not support Tunisia's efforts to fight terrorists?
The failure to bolster moderate Muslims and a tolerant, patriotic Muslim culture in Britain will result in more potential jihadists- meanwhile, Lambert thinks he's so clever.

davidka

How long before, one wonders, will the UK have successfully maneuvered itself into another bloody border of Islamic advance.
a fault line just like Israel, South Thailand, Kashmir, kosovo or Aceh?
Britain will probably be the only country whose fault line was created of its own making or rather the making of its elites.
the question is why are the elites refusing to acknowledge we are facing an Islamic jihad, a religious war against the non-Islamic world.
Perhaps when some of those elites are directly affected rather than ordinary folk, we might see an acceptance of the reality.

Alan O'Reilly

I understand that Gerry Gable, of the Marxist 5th column Searchlight and a convicted criminal, has been a lecturer at Hendon Police College.

So as others have said, "What's new?"

Bill M

Maybe Lambert and Stephen Hockman should start their own consulting firm specializing in how Britain could most rapidly and effectively slit its own throat and paint the flag green. It appears they've already been successful at consulting those who currently rule.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/3523672/Sharia-law-should-be-introduced-into-legal-system-says-leading-barrister.html

phil

METHINKS-Matthew Roberts makes a cogent point here
The police who I grew up to know as my friends are beginning to do some very strange and worrying things ,am I paranoid or is Orwell back in fashion ?

btw is this man harrath the one known as Sin here too ?

Sam Armstrong

Byron, I completely agree but the Queen has been silent now for years. She barely makes the TV, it's as if she doesn't exist.

I would love the Royal Family to speak up - Charles could be very helpful - but our revolting left-wing media would destroy any sensible contributions they made to public debate.

logdon

Is the Met now fit for purpose? That purpose being the basic remit of catching criminals? Over the last few months we've seen the chicanery and off remit activity, all politically motivated from Ian Blair's complete mishandling of his Muslim officers to the raid on Damian Green. Then the intervention in the 42 day debate, spun knife crime figures and the list goes on. And on. Figure into that the basic ineptness resulting in Jean Menezes' death and the lying over the challenge before he was gunned down. I will remember to my dying day Brian Paddick's assertion on the morning 52 Londoners died at the hands of Islamic terrorists that there is no such thing as Islamic terrorism. Sidique Khan's 'suicide video ' soon disabused us, as if we needed it, of that canard. So it follows that Paddick was obviously more concerned with the image of Muslims than his job of protecting the public. His gross lie that morning has set the tone and so we witness this idiocy. Bin Laden who is still the number one jihadi hero has set it out plainly and the collected sayings and speeches are recorded for all to see in the al-Qaeda Handbook. He has declared war on the West. He advocates anything which will further the Islamic revival and restoration of the caliphate. That includes lying and treachery following precisely Mohammed's edict 'War is deceit'. So why the hell the Met is employing a known terrorist? It indicates if not insanity a derangement furthered by the most extreme form of political correctness in our very PC recent history. They all need sacking and start afresh. They are riddled with people educated in Marxist leaning social work and it seems like apprehending criminals plays a poor second fiddle to sucking up to the political masters for whom multiculturalism is the new Bible.

davidka

extremely well put Logdon, and for whatever reasons of incompetence, financial enrichment or crass ideological dishonesty, the results will be that Britain has been put on the list of world regions which are on the fault lines of Islamic bloody expansion and it is only a matter of time before the mayhem begins over here.
and yet in the FO who paid notice to the likes of Haj Amin Al Husseini when he allied with Nazi ideology and incorporated wahhabism into the Muslim Brotherhood and forecast back in the thirties what is happening in the west today?
it has always and is today plain to see.
Israel has been fighting Jihad since the thirties but the British elites are still unable to grasp that they are also the targets.

stanley Jerusalem

Back in the 50's on Hancocks Half Hour, Sid James explained how a master criminal, now safe in Spain , had escaped from Dartmoor Prison and immediately joined the Devonshire County Costabulary Special Constable's Ranks where he was employed for 4 weeks in the task of searching for himself, before making his relaxed getaway.
That was a comedy script by Ray Galton and Alan Simpson.
And now,My Lords, Ladies & Gentlemen, for your delectation, I am proud to present your own, your very own Robert Lambert who will entertain you by demonstrating his having been promoted to the limits of his own incompetence; I thank you!

Herbert Thornton

If any science fiction writer intends to compose a thriller about shape-shifting beings from elsewhere in our Galaxy mingling with us in order to subdue and replace us while appearing on the surface to be humans just like us, the plot could hardly be more bizarre than this account of the madness that has obviously been allowed to permeate our Police and Security Services. The name New Scotland Yard is obsolete. It should be called New Caliphate Yard.

Those whom the Gods would destroy they first make mad - to the point, in Britain's case, of being sufficiently mad to believe that the actual enemy is the BNP.

Byron in Wahroonga

***Byron, I completely agree but the Queen has been silent now for years. She barely makes the TV, it's as if she doesn't exist***

That's sad, but explains why the British Royal family doesn't have the same domestic respect as say, Thailand's. I'm reminded of the bystander calling to Charles II during his battle with Shaftesbury, 'remember your Royal father, and keep your hand on the Staff!' And the King's reply, delighting the crowd. She has more support than she knows, but I fear history will judge her harshly for sitting on the sideline, when leadership was needed.

Norm

If anyone seriously expects the Queen to speak out they are seriously delusional. The Monarchy is not allowed to speak on anything political at all. It's a deal made long ago to prevent the Country from becoming a Republic. Much as I think HMQ would have something sensible to say she is best off saying 'nowt'

YA

..these horrible, terrorizing, powerful Islamic feces, everywhere..

..civilization is in danger!!!..

Joe Strummer

Apparently, even the Met isn't immune from terrorist-chic, the must have for every social / ist elite wannabe.

Terry

Keystone Cops

Dixon

Logdon..."ineptness" of the police: look at how they hold their guns, defying the basic tenets of safe weapon handling. Each time some plod with an MP5 turns round he "pans" all bystanders! Ive seen it often enough on news clips at crowded places. They arent safe to be let loose with them!

Dixon

Davidka..problem is, our "elites" know that, as Quislings, they are NOT targets.

Ian Ellard

In what possible sense could you mean:

"It’s all because of this extraordinary belief by the higher echelons of the British security world that Islamist extremism is the antidote to Islamist terrorism – that the Muslim Brotherhood are useful allies against al Qaeda."?

What can this possibly mean? Do you mean, perhaps, that dialogue with the Muslim Brotherhood would be counter-productive in understanding the idea of jihad, or the motivation of 'Islamist Terrorists'? Or that the security services do it because, after all, if we bring Islamist Extremists onto our side then Islamist Terrorists won't want to blow up our side because it will be their side? Or do you just mean that Islamist Extremists (like those nasty Muslim Brotherhood fellows) are in cahoots with Islamist Terrorists (like those wicked AlQaedas)?

Who do you suppose the security services spoke to when dealing with Irish Terrorism?

To be fair to you, I reckon that if we want to get to the bottom of all this thoroughly horrid business, we should have a word with Ant and Dec. They have a much better handle on it all. They are well aware 'that what we are facing is an Islamic jihad, a religious war against the non-Islamic world.' And they don't succomb like those intelligence idiots to the ZaNuLabour, post-PC, flagrantly bananas suggestion 'that Islamist terror has nothing to do with religion.'

Quite how you leap from the proposition that the security services are talking to the Muslim Brotherhood to the conclusion that they are blind to the religious element of the threat is actually beyond me. It's nonsense.

Would it be entirely irrelevant to note that the Yard seem to be doing pretty well. What with the threat of Islamist Terrorism looming so largely over the heads of all of us and our children, I think they and the 'mysteriously silent' security services need a little praise.

I imagine they're doing alright.

Byron in Wahroonga

***if anyone seriously expects the Queen to speak out they are seriously delusional***

Nonsense, Norm. It is her duty to speak out, regardless of risk to the monarchy. But I don't think there is any risk, an appeal direct to the people over the head of an incompetent government would be received with delirious joy. As to any agreement about a republic, adding something about the last time Britain tried one would redouble the power of her message.

stanley Jerusalem

Terry
At least the keystone Cops were entertaining.

Paul

You couldnt make it up! I am still waiting for West Midlands Police to take action over C4's Preachers of Hate. Guess I'll be waiting for ever. We are little more than a banana republic today especially when it comes to the Police and of course our currency. This Government is an absolute disaster. I remember the Police during the Countryside Alliance march bashing grannies around and behaving in a thoroughly shameful manner. I dont see that in the kid glove treatment of Muslims and known Islamic terrorists. The longer this state of affairs goes on the more extreme the reaction will be reflected in my case in the party I vote for in the next election. We are sleep walking to disaster.

Archie

Spot-on, Logdon and Matthew Roberts!
Byron: once I was a rabid monarchist. No longer. That HM has meekly presided over her subjects delivery to those who don't wish them well - of whatever stripe - beggars belief and to my mind calls into question her function.

Roy

I agree Byron of Wahroonga, the Queen should speak up, regardless. The question is though; has she been so brow beaten by her stalwart ministers, and all the riff-raff at the Home Office, the media the BBC etc., that even she doesn't see through it all? . . . You could say she should!! When one sees the whole structure of the country being undermined, the whole fabric of this long standing democracy being thrown to the dogs . . . its time for some plain speaking from whomever it takes. It would be easy for me to say I’m far enough away to not worry how things develop in the UK. But the United Kingdom along with the rest of Europe and North America are the two large bastions of freedom in the world and need to be on their guard a good bit better than they are at present. Once these two blocks have that thin edge of the wedge implanted and driving, the whole shibboleth of human rights will see to it, accompanied by high fertility, the minority % shift polarity. Small distant populations will have no say as their once protectors succumb, but then their own archipelago will have been similarly infiltrated and similarly over-run with time.

steve

Ian Ellard: A very thoughtful response to the hysteria that Melanie peddles. Her frustration stems from the fact that, rightfully, Scotland Yard and the Security Service don't take her views seriously.

Byron in Wahroonga

***who do you suppose the security services spoke to when dealing with Irish Terrorism?***

He! For sheer absurdity your comparison takes the cake, Ian Ellard. Did the 'security services' give IRA terrorists a job? 'Eamonn, nice work on Mountbatten's sailboat. You're just the kind we need advice from.' Harrath is a convicted terrorist who should be returned to Tunisia to commence his sentence.

Byron in Wahroonga

****Byron: once I was a rabid monarchist. No longer. That HM has meekly presided over her subjects delivery to those who don't wish them well****

Fair enough, but I'm not giving up hope, Archie. Especially since hope is all we have left. I keep thinking of her mother: praticising with a pistol in the grounds of Buckingham Palace, and her immortal 'I won't leave without the King; and the King will never leave' quote. Surely someone raised by such a mother cannot sit out this crisis?

Lee Taylor

Londonistan indeed.

EC

Byron,

It's been done before.
eg. Gough Whitlam.
But there is no credible opposition to take over.

Neuroskeptic

Ian Ellard should be writing this column instead of Melanie.

Actually, I should, but I'd let Ian sub for me.

Pihan H

Oh! la la,

May be it is time to get help from terrorists, because they are familiar with the job, there are weird people in this country and sometimes they are doing top jobs, I don't only blame the police, we are all responsible, the sleep walking society.