America slides into the sewer

Laura

I don't think America's Jews really care, Ms. Phillips. Most of them voted for Obama, and most of them identify as Democrat and American. The liberal agenda trumps all for them. They are like Tel Aviv, transplanted en masse in the United States. Their Jewishness is incidental, and perhaps a perk that allows them to have a nice place to winter on the Mediterranean.

Ellien

We must put pressure on our governments to boycott Durban II. I recently had the opportunity to add my name to an on-line US lobby, but does anyone know of one which is up and running in the UK?
I am reading Nick Cohen's What's Left (recommended on this blog) which is strengthening my conviction that Israel, and Jews, are serving as scapegoats yet again for untold numbers of injustices around the world, including the economic crisis we are in. The Arab world pays lip service to concern about the welfare of Palestinians. In Eastern Syria, the Times writes, there are hundreds of stranded Palestinians, living in makeshift tents, who fled from persecution in Iraq, only to find that Syria does not want them, and, what's more, is preventing UN aid from reaching them.
While the world focuses its grievances on Israel and on trumped up charges against Jews, dictatorships, totalitarian regimes, appalling injustices and crimes are committed throughout the world unhindered. Dare I hope that Mr. Obama is planning to change things from within? Could he really be that naive? Or does Melanie have it in a nutshell?

Plectrum

"Israel ASKED Obama not to attend"

Oh puhleeze. I could have accepted requested. Since when is our President answerable to Israel?

Carl

So Israel might actually have to behave responsibly and curb excesses, in the knowledge that big brother might not bail it out?

And this is a bad thing?

JES

How right you are Melanie, indeed a disturbing development but not wholly a surprise. Obama is a socialist and as such an instinctive appeaser. He is running scared of Iran, calculating that abandoning Israel will be less damaging that facing up to Islamic fundamentalism. Once again the UN shows itself corrupt, biased and blind to reality. I fear the world will soon come to regret the coming of this ‘Saviour’, not least when Israel is backed into a corner and has no other option but to take unilateral action against Iran, the resulting consequences we can only imagine.

Nick in Virginia

"When will America’s Jews become fully aware of the dangers of President Obama?"

A great question, and I wish I had the answer. Many of my Jewish friends and I are stunned by the level of Jewish support for this fraud in the last election.

Some people just refuse to learn.

Tas

Don't take any notice of what Obama says.

Just pay heed to what he does.

Bill M

This president is an embarrassment. He is a terribly poor leader. He's a novice. He is a fascist. He is nefarious. His mission is more so. From the sewer of Chicago politics, a racist "church" and street organizing he came, and that is where he will take us.

There are people on my block who still proudly have their Obama/Biden yard signs up. They are either totally naive and continue to buy into empty rhetoric or they are knowingly committed to the destruction of Israel and the support of a fascist U.S. government. Am I being to extreme? Perhaps. However, it does look like things are moving in that direction. I can't think of one Jewish friend who didn't vote for him. I don't get it. The guy wants to see Israel bulldozed. In fact, I am absolutely positive he would be thrilled if Israel no longer was on the map. He sees Israel as a headache and nuisance. There's no question about that. The LA Times needs to release the video of Obama's comments about Israel.

We will lose the degree to which we now enjoy free speech, and we'll cave to Islamist threats and demands much like the constables on the run last week. We will be a drastically different country in four years as Obama continues to seek to neutralize (neuter) our international influence and level the playing field to where we are no longer a superpower but a begging nanny state.

He's going to change the agenda for Durban 2? Unclench those fists? Yeah, right.

Change for the worst with no hope for the future.

Bill M

"When will America’s Jews become fully aware of the dangers of President Obama?"

Actually, Melanie, I would submit that the majority of Jewish people here really don't care as much as you or others may think. Most see Israel as Palestinians do. I think the Christians here give more of a serious rip about what happens to Israel than the majority of Jews do.

Michael B

Barack Obama: a coruscation of rhetoric masking a lack of weight and balance. As to how prominent that still developing theme becomes during this political and media-enamored administration remains to be seen. That it's already prominent and likely decisive, there is zero doubt.

(And the photo, Ban Ki-Moon as cartoonishly miniaturized talking-head featured below the grandiose spectre of the UN's symbolism and above the profoundly mendacious "human rights council" title is a perfection of condensed, tragi-comic self-parody. A prime-time cartoon series, featuring the disembodied talking heads of Ban Ki-Moon and Barack Obama, each with outsized and permanently attached symbolism and titles, has enormous truth-telling and entertainment potential. But we're all to imagine otherwise.)

Dave M

"It says the Palestinians are the victims of Israeli oppression, implies that Zionism itself is racism, and calls for the end of Israeli sovereignty over Jerusalem"

There's a problem I've seen coming a long way off. If we assume the doctrine of multiculturalism arose in the U.S. (as an offshoot of Civil Rights), how is the U.S. going to be able to defend Israel ideologically in the future? That is the whole idea Jews have an ancient history in their own and, therefore, a right to live as a sovereign state, based on nationalistic identity may become alien. I say this because multiculturalism as an ideology doesn't understand the concept of national identity, cultural identity and, to some extent, cultural history. Mulitulturalism holds there is really no such thing as race and all human beings are identical. The entire ideology is both unscientific, absurd and demonstrably incorrect, but nevertheless, the majority of people take it as gospel. In the same way people used to believe the world was flat and not spherical. Just as millions of East Europeans believed in the dictatorship of the working classes and total economic equality.
Has anyone noticed how the world is one again becoming bipolar, divided between nationalists and multiculturalists? The multiculturalists merely wish to see some kind of global order, without borders, based on tribalism, vague universally applied ideas on equality and multiethnic governments. Going against this you have countries such as China, India, Japan, Russia and, of course, Israel. Then you have the U.S. the U.K., France and some other European countries that are building purely immigrant societies. Thus, the problem is as multiculturalism swallows up American and European society and makes it far more diverse than even 20 years ago, Israel is going to be less understood. Even more so if Arab populations and interests increase in the U.S. as we've seen take place in the U.K.

ellspeth m

I guess that Carl doesn't remember the Palestinians dancing in the streets in celebration of the September 11 attacks. Has Israel ever threatened the west?

ahad ha'amoratsim

Plectrum, that's amusing. Please look up "ask" in your dictionary. Then look up "request". Now I see what Melanie means when she laments the low state of British education.

joeblough

Any attentive person could have predicted this at any point in the presidential campaign.

jim comfort

This change in policy by the Obama white house is scary. They have overruled the State Department. Those of us who voted for Obama feel betrayed, and most American Jews do not understand the change in American policy. Looks like Israel and those of us who support it are in for a long seige.

Adam

"When will America’s Jews become fully aware of the dangers of President Obama?"
Ms Phillips really is a scare-monger par excellence.
Perhaps she should spend more time on the disasterous, apartheid policies that Israel has been pursuing of late.

Dan Schwartz, Sayreville, New Jersey

I'm still taking a "wait and see" with President Obama, despite the presence of Susan Rice and Samantha Power, and Here's Why:

Rahm Emanuel.

During the whole mess with Illinois Governor Blago selling the appointment to the Senate of Obama's old seat, it was "Rahmbo" who was protected, and not thrown under the bus.

Lee Jakeman

The sign above the gates of Auschwitz read "Arbeit Macht Frei" - "Work makes you free". I suppose they'll be telling us next that this was all about "Human Rights".

gary ashton

the israelis also asked kevin rudd not to attend the conference but i think mr. rudd is keen for australia to play a bigger role in the UN so he will probably attend.
let's face it no one cares about israel or the jews, they don't have the money or the oil that the west needs so badly. the only thing they provide is what they have always provided, 'a scapegoat' for the spineless.

G

Bill M. No, you are not being too extreme. I think you've got it in a nutshell.

Alex Bensky

I voted for McGovern, about which I am embarrassed, and for Carter twice, which is one of the things I ask God to forgive on Yom Kippur. I broke with a lifetime's habit and voted for McCain last fall and I haven't seen anything to indicate I made a mistake.

The attitude towards Israel is dangerous and I'd say that even if I weren't a Zionist--I'd support Israel even if the Israelis were Vietnamese...or Taiwanese. It bespeaks an attitude towards the west and its enemies, a willingness to curry favor with those who want to destroy us and to give the cold shoulder to our allies.

James Hovland

The Zionist extremists can not continue to hide behind the 'antisemitism' accusation. It doesn't work anymore. We get it now, we understand the scam, and we're not putting up with it any longer. It doesn't make any sense at all to keep telling the Jews that the world hates them when it's not true. Jews ROCK! We have some issues to address with Zionism and Israel but it doesn't have anything to do with being Jewish, and we're not going to let the extremists drag all the Jews into it anymore. Stand up for the Jewish people, and attend 'Durban II', if there is any real "antisemitism" going on there, it needs confronted, and you can't do that by not going.

HarleyDavidson

American Jews claim Obama promised not to attend Durban 2. Well, it looks like those American Jews just got a harsh reminder exactly what an Obama promise is worth. Heck, it looks good on them but on the other hand with congressional election in two short years this should be a very interesting election knowing full well conservatives will be shoving Obama's empty promises down his throat every moment of every day. Real interesting. Could even change the make up of the entire congress.

Now, Obama can do as he wishes at Durban 2. Even go as far as declaring Israel a none state. Who's gonna turn that piece of paper into action against Israel? The Arabs?

With an estimated 400 plus nukes at Israel's disposal there wouldn't be an Arabic state left on earth. Obama's America? You gotta be plain stupid if you believe a brutally overused military force with soldiers suffering now from 5&6 deployments would even think of using their military against Israel is pure insanity. Israel is no Iraq and its soldier and air force are as good as anything America can put on the field especially with an already over stretched military as it is today.

Who's left? Britain? France? Germany? Each in range of Israel's 400 plus nukes? Are you nuts?

Israel has already anticipated such a shift. The right is the power block in Israel. Furthermore, Lieberman, an ex-Russian is in Russia for a "vocation" but that "vocation" is a whole lot of behind the scenes movements where Russian looking for a renewal on the world stage has been given a gift and in a radical shift I see a Russian checkmate brewing against Obama every step of the way.

India, another nuke power, already angry at America's dumb Kashmir statement have already told the Obama regime to but out of their business. Indian just happens to be Israel's largest military supplier at 8 billion. China, another nuke power, is also Israel's military customer.

So, relax. American politics itself will put Obama in his place. Elections have a way of doing just that.

In the end paper is just that, paper! Politics does indeed make strange bedfellows few stranger than today's in Obama's world. Presidents however come and go but the vast majority of Americans will always support an Israel. Therein lies Obama's downfall because all the warnings given about the real Obama is not only being proved absolutely true but even more radical than imagined. Yep, two years before elections where every promise Obama made is back on the radar again. How sweet is it!

Margaret

Forget not that those Christians seek to return the Holy Land to the Jews in order for them to be perfected and thus can be welcomed into Heaven, a situation reverently desired as it will be followed by Armegheddon and the Last Days, ending with the Resurrection. For more details, search Bill Moyers.

An American

Bill M,
You left one very important fact out...Obama is Muslim.

Both his father and step-father were Muslim...His Muslim Kenyan half-brother and relatives state that Obama is Muslim as does some Muslim world leaders. Once born a Muslim...always a Muslim. Obama was born and raised a Muslim...and although he claims he is now a Christian, there are no baptism record stating that he has been baptized and has accepted Christ as his savior. Obama's Muslim religious training has taught him that should he reject Allah, his soul would face eternal damnation.

Since leaving Wright's political black-power church...he hasn't set foot in a church...he was only there for political aspirations and those have been fulfilled.

When the time comes...he will be on the side of his Muslim brothers, even if it brings about a nuclear holocaust for Israel...

This man is a total deceitful fraud...he is nothing the American people believe him to be.

Kanuck AMG

Our Prime Minister, Stephen Harper (Canadian) has been very firm since taking office nearly 3 years ago on our governments position concerning Israel. He has stated very clearly on many occasions that Israel has a right to defend herself, and he has backed it up by standing with her at the UN and not participating in the Durban2 conference.
But it really is as you stated Laura, Canadian Jewery are traditionaly Liberal, and this is how they vote.
I was chatting with a Jewish acquaintance a few evenings ago, and he stated that Jews tend not to vote for their friends. This really seemed to sadden him, as it does me.

Ralph G.

Virtually all Jews care deeply about Israel and make no mistake about that. This is because not only for deep pride, but for also selfish reasons. Israel is the umbrella for Jews worldwide that serves as a protection so that another catastrophe does not happen again. A famous saying is "Never Again".
I am hoping, but call it wishful thinking that Barak Obama is using the strategy “get closer to your enemies than to your friends”.
Unfortunately my general thoughts are that there are only approx. 15 million Jews worldwide and approx. 1.2 billion Muslims. Considering if your objective as President is to maximize the well being of its citizens, who would you align yourself with? Former president Bush has alienated the U.S. and scored poorly internationally. For the sake of his people Barak Obama needs to take drastic action quickly or risk further marginalization. I only hope that he does not compromise principal values in doing so. I think if the United States moves forward by participating in Durban II, this will be one major setback for mankind. The entire civilized world should stand up and not attend this hate fest, and hence discredit the conference. Durban II is about hate mongering and eliminating free speech under the guise of xenophobia. We will have to wait and see as this unfolds.

Conservative Pedestrian

Melanie Phillips is actually doing an enormous disservice in this thread by concentrating on how Durban II would affect Israel and the Jews. The real, ultimate target of Durban II is not 'racism', although I am sure we have all noted how Moslems immediately tar any criticism, or debate about Islam, as 'racism'. Durban II's real target is the West and its peoples, nations, values, institutions, laws, beliefs. Durban II is aiming for the criminalisation of 'islamophobia' by its demand for a law against 'blasphemy of religion' (only Islam is mentioned) and for support for the Cairo Declaration of Human Rights in Islam to supercede the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Phillips has actually missed the real target and has marginalised the debate.

tommy

What is the 21st century version of lambs blood on the doorpost-- ??
It is looking as if it may come to that

Original Tony

Tas..10:12 pm..I agree totally..don't listen to what Obama says, just heed what he does.
Mugabe used the very same words when he first got into office, upon being questioned why he had back-tracked on a particular issue.
So all of you people who post here, remember these words...Obama cannot be trusted to follow through on his promises. Never!
With regard to this post by Melanie, it is evident that the world is being geared up to squeeze every last Jew back into Israel, which is where God wants them, so that at a time of HIS choosing, you will see all the nations around Israel humbled, like a Lion put amongst the sheep. I can't wait for that!!

Miranda Rose Smith

Dear Carl: Just exactly what excesses has Israel commited and when did it behave irresponsibly?

Bhaskar

One must take issue with 'An American' and his insane assertion that Obama is a Muslim. So it has come to this - crazy, ultra rightwing Americans who would never aceept a black man as their president are now spreading the rumour that their president is a Muslim. I wonder if this is a bizarre inversion of anti Jewish conspiracy theories sprouted by various lunatics - that a 'Muslim' president in the White House is the culmination of a worldwide Muslim conspiracy. Incidently duirng last Christmas I was in Argentina and met a very right wing gentleman who had connections with their discredited military. This man insisted that Carlos Menem (Argentina's Thacherite ex president who was born a Muslim but became a Catholic) remained a Muslim. This gentleman also went on to inform me that there was a Jewish conspiracy to create a Zionist state in Patagonia! I wish the conspiracy theorists (whether anti Jewish or anti Muslim) would get a life and move on.

An American

Ralph G,
I find it interesting that you malign President Bush...since Reagan...the only president along with his father, that has been a stalwart protector of Israel. Nutty Carter certainly wasn't/isn't on the side of Israel and Clinton was luke warm...Obama will be even worse.

Your reasoning...if you can call it that...irks me.

Bill M

An American,

I believe you are right and that there is a sinister agenda in play. It's taqqiyah.

Daniel Pipes has some interesting observations on this issue.

I am amazed that more people didn't jump on Obama's "slip" when he referred to his "Muslim faith" during an interview with George Stephanopoulos, who unfortunately corrected Obama by saying, "You mean, your Christian faith." Obama gave a knowing smile.

The fact is, Obama would never slip and say, "my Jewish faith," or "my Hindu faith." I am a believing Christian. I would never slip and say, "my Muslim faith." That would not even process subconsciously in my mind. But "Muslim" rolled right off this liar's forked tongue. He didn't even catch it himself. It took an "objective" "reporter" who was in his camp to correct him. (Why does Stephanopoulos still have a job after that? He should have been fired.)

I think what that slip did was expose Obama as to where he sees as his affiliation and loyalty. He also once stated that a particular Muslim prayer was the most beautiful prayer to him. Not the Lord's Prayer, not the teaching of the Beatitudes, not any of the Psalms, but a prayer to allah. If you where a Christian, would you select a prayer to allah as your favorite?

I do not believe Obama is a Christian. Trinity is not a believing church. It is a building loaded with racism, hate, and anger. Obama sat in those pews for 20 years listening to the opportunist JW spew his BS. No wonder he has no problem attending Durban 2.

So now we have this sleaze for four years and the damage he will cause for the lifetime of my children.

What a man of integrity.

Change.

phil

Adam aw shadapada face you are becoming a broken record ,do you have anything to say of consequence ?rhetorical of course .You are the MOST boring poster we have ,check out carl he does vary his invective at least and gives us a chance to laugh .you just remind me of soggy bread .

An American

Bhaskar,

I usually scoff at conspiracy theories too...believe it or not.

But, nothing fits...we have a sudden financial crisis two months before the election...

There is no paper trail on Obama...none. Who paid for all of his private High School and Ivy League schooling? His poor grandmother...his destitute mother and father?

All of the non-information on Obama should tell us something...someone did a real good scrubbing before he ran for President.

By God, when you want to be president of one of the most powerful countries in the world...you better put your credentials out there for everyone to see...Obama hasn't...

I'll believe that this is an 'insane assertion' when you show me his original birth certificate, his baptism record, his school thesis', etc. etc....

Prove it...and I will be happy to apologize

Good luck on your search.

George

Adam: "Perhaps she should spend more time on the disasterous, apartheid policies that Israel has been pursuing of late."

Adam, please specify what apartheid policies Israel pursues. And make sure that you only refer to what happens within the state of Israel, not what happens in the disputed territories.

Conservative Cabbie

Ralph G

"Unfortunately my general thoughts are that there are only approx. 15 million Jews worldwide and approx. 1.2 billion Muslims. Considering if your objective as President is to maximize the well being of its citizens, who would you align yourself with?"

Now I know that Pres Obama and his supporters would like to think of him as President of the world, but he isn't. There are approx 6.5 million Jews and about 3.3 million muslims in the USA. Those are the citizens he has to concern himself with, not the world population.

ahad

James Hovland, when you say "Jews ROCK", I assume you are the same James Hovland who posted at pajamas media that Israel's actions justify physical attacks on non-Israeli Jews around the world. So are you referring to rocks thru the windows of Jewish homes and synagogues, or the ones thrown at Jews by the racist thugs whose actions you excuse?

An American

Conservative Cabbie,

I disagree with your assertion.

Every American President spends a great deal of their time on international politics...it would come back to haunt the US, if they don't have the ability to see the big world picture...where the dangers lie for us. It goes without saying that just about every American president has also made big blunders in world politics.

Obama believes he is the 'Messiah'. We're not dealing with someone who believes he is an ordinary man... he doesn't have an ordinary ego. What normal man with Obama's lack of experience would believe that they could be president of one of the world's biggest powers? Does this fellow appear to have his head in the right place?

By the way, most American Jews and all of the muslims voted for Obama...he believes he has them in the bag...not to worry.

Obama has bigger fish to fry than just socializing the US...he believes that he can further socialize the world...

Look at Obama's prostelizing of 'world socialism' in Berlin...need I say more?

Adam B.

I see Carl, so Holocaust denial is perfectly OK is it? Did you even read Melanie's article?

Durban 1 was an anti-Semitic hatefest, nothing less. How ironic that an "anti-racism" conference becomes a raw expression of racism. This apparently is fine with you. But then I guess the Jew hatred wouldn't offend someone who repeatedly and pointedly refuses to condemn the anti-Semitic Hamas charter.

Adam B.

Adam's support for Obama, plus his lack of concern about the overt racism displayed at these "conferences", plus his hatred of Israel, are all part of the same world view. If you need proof about the left's lack of concern for the new anti-Semitism (and indeed, support for it), Adam and his lies about Israel are a fine example of it.

An American

Bill M,
Thank for your follow-up on the Muslim issue.

Yeah...sometimes what you can't see tells you more about a situation or a person than what they make up or allow you to see...

It's truly interesting that no one can find these documents. And that we had this financial crisis exactly eight weeks before the election...

I believe if the real truth came out...everyone would be in total shock.

We've all been conned...big time.

AF Austin, Texas

Dave M. Thanks for posting. I read Melanie's articles and posters like you and really enjoy the wonderful perspectives....Keep it up. I don't feel so lonely.

Conservative Cabbie

An American

"And that we had this financial crisis exactly eight weeks before the election..."

OK, we're probably due for our first tiff. Are you really trying to say that Obama's 'socialist' buddies manufactured the economic crisis to get Obama into power? That Hannity-esque statement is part of the reason that the right in America are struggling electorally. American conservatives have the right answer on fiscal conservatism, moral values and foreign policy, but it is people like Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck and Ann Coulter who give conservatism a bad name. Conservatism is the most positive of all political creeds, it is not a hate-filled political system and until American conservatives realise this, there will be many more Obama's before there's another Reagan.

Leave conspiracy theories to the idiotic left and fight liberalism on the strength of the argument. And if I catch you watching Hannity or Beck again, I'll be very cross. You've been told.

RJ

Jim Comfort,

If you say that you are "fooled" by Obama's policy turnaround, you are a fool.

Everything about Obama's past, from his associations to his worldview made crystal clear that he would be hostile to Israel, would curry favor with Muslim tyrannies that seek Israel's destruction and would try to 'fundamentally change' the US.

America is the world's great hope. If we're not careful, we will let Obama turn us into morally disgusting and cowardly Britain.

The Republicans must win the House back in 2010.

beowulf

And from our Scottish universities.
http://news.scotsman.com/scotland/Spirit-of-Sixties-revived-as.4971848.jp
Note comment by a politics and sociology student, obviously two very necessary subjects, unlike science or engineering etc. that could help get this country back on it's feet.

ahad ha'amoratsim aka ahad

"We've all been conned...big time."

Plenty of us were not conned, but when we tried to warn people, we were called every name in the book and several that aren't.

An American

Cabbie,

Honest...I'm not a kook...but, I'm beginning to believe that Soros and/or the Saudis might have manipulated the stock market...don't ask me how...but there have been just too many coincidences...If it is true...we most probably won't know how they pulled it off for a very long time, if ever..just like all the English and American upper-crust (Kennedy, Lindberg) that supported Hitler in his prime. But we didn't hear about it for almost 6 decades.

I'm not too fond of Hannity but do listen to Limbaugh and he's the one that was talking about this financial manipulation last week. It's all so very complicated in a market with that amount of money moving around...that very few people understand how it all works...certainly not anyone that Obama appointed.

Just curious..do you get conservative radio or TV in the UK?

Fox is talking up the 'socialism' aspect of Obama's latest trillion dollar stimulus bill...we've definitely gone over the edge and it's right where Obama wanted to push us.

Thank you for your reply...I alway's enjoy reading your comments even if you do chide me.

Michael of Charlotte

This is change I'm supposed to believe in? Appalling, even more so that I had to find out about this from a foreign news outlet. Where are the American news outlets on this one???

Conservative Cabbie

An American

"even if you do chide me"

Just want to keep you targeted on the main picture. The Limbaugh conspiracy stuff is what alienates independents and moderate Democrats/Republicans. They are needed for the GOP to win electorally, they can't win with an ever diminishing conservative base. Limbaugh/Hannity et al don't care about that - they make millions by being what they are, contreversial gobshites. It's entertaining but politically unsound.

"Just curious..do you get conservative radio or TV in the UK?"

We get Fox which I enjoy. Commentators like Chris Wallace, Brit Hume and Charles Krauthammer are better than anything we get in the UK. We don't really have the Glenn Beck/Sean Hannity type shows here so they are quite an alien experience and don't really suit the British mentality.

I too enjoy what you write, and any chiding on my part is meant in the best possible way.

Original Tony

Bill M 2:45pm...very well said buddy!

Jake

Our biggest enemies as Jews are ourselves. Throughout time, our issues all stem from trying to assimilate with non-Jews and be a part of 'society.' I am proud to be a Jew and those that don't accept it can go F themselves.

Israel as a state or government means nothing to me. It is our homeland and I will not let some no talen a$$clown like Obama or anyone else dictate the lives of my brothers and sisters.

An American

Cabbie,
I'm really surprised that you do get Fox there...I understand that Canada, just last year, was able to get it.

Of everyone you mentioned, I admire Krauthammer the most and am in line with most of his thinking.

I do believe that Obama and his socialist cronies will and have done anything and everything to be in complete power...they are a truly evil force.

Michael of Charlotte,
"Where are the American news outlets on this one???"

You are kidding...right?

The American news outlets are in Obama's breast pocket...listening to and loving his very heartbeat.

The American public will not hear about the Durban 2 Conference. Obama and the media will try their best to keep us drones in the dark on all matters of importance...better to have a trusting, ignorant populace that you can manipulate.

We should start calling him...'Obama the Arrogant'.

ahad ha'amoratsim

"We should start calling him...'Obama the Arrogant'. "

What worries me is that he will turn out to be our version of Ethelred the Unready, with Iran in the role of the Danes.

An American

ahad,
Please enlighten me on your last posting. Thank you.

Conservative Cabbie

An American

Our satellite network, called Sky, is owned by Rupert Murdoch who also owns Fox. It's shown on that network.

It's Krauthammer for me too. He is about as incisive as they get at analysing political news and can explain things really well too.

beloved

CC, the last thing the opposition wants is an open debate on the merits of socialism vs capitalism.

Socialists won't admit that is what they are, and they refuse to acknowledge that their policies are socialism. The closest they come is occasionally using the word Keynesian, and even then they qualify it.

As politicians, socialists sound like Wm. Buckley Jr during a campaign and vote as Stalin once in power. Almost every Democrat claims to be conservative at every opportunity.

Beck is actually the only one of the three you mention who is directly flushing the socialists out and using the correct vocabulary. Hannity has just now started using the word "socialist." Rush still doesn't use the term. Beck is about ten years too late, though.

The opposition has refused debate for a long time, and they successfully have hid their true beliefs from the American public. The reason, of course, is that they would lose every debate.

Those three news entertainers fill the place of the MSM by default. The MSM has abandoned their original purpose in favor of promoting the socialist agenda of the Democratic Party. Free markets, as you know, advance alternatives that fill market demands. The people voted with their dollars for Rush, Hannity, and Beck. Camille Paglia, a feminist author and professor, describes them as being in the tradition of vaudeville entertainment. She says that for the socialists even to mention censorship of capitalist talk radio and cable shows betrays the soul of liberalism.

Central Planners did not have power to stop us until now. Our newest battle in the war against totalitarianism is over free speech and press. If this upsets you, look away until the smoke clears.

beloved

PS Moderate and Independent are confusing entities, and appealing to them is a waste of time.

Moderate sounds so reasonable as though someone gives careful consideration to both sides of an issue and finds harmony in the middle. The truth is they claim moderation to avoid exposure of ignorance on the issues. They don't even know what the issues are, and even if they find a safe issue, they avoid confrontation. It is less confrontational to say, "I'm in the middle." Moderates stand for nothing and understand even less. Ask ten moderates to name the majority party in congress and they will say, "Obama" (a familiar name) or, worse, "The Supreme Court." They are in the middle because they are lost. They remind me of geese. Every day a goose wakes up to a brand new world. They remember nothing that happened yesterday. They forget past lessons and must learn them anew for today. For them, the past is as mysterious as the future.

Independent is too wide. Independent could mean anything from socialism to conservatism. Bernie Sanders is probably the only honest politician in the US. He openly claims to be a socialist, but he ran on the Independent ticket. Bill O'Reilly on Fox is a registered Indpendent, too. Which end of Independent do we appeal to?

That last q bugs me. If people must be appealed to in order to do their civic duty, they aren't worth having on your team. We tried moderation and independents at the last election and the people voted against them with good reason.

Paul L

It just gets worse. Sammy Benoit over on American Thinker reports:
"Obama Reportedly Picks Israel Hater to Lead National Intelligence Council"

The piece provides an astonishing insight into this man's warped, deluded mind.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/02/obama_reportedly_picks_israel.html

Conservative Cabbie

Beloved
"The people voted with their dollars for Rush, Hannity, and Beck"

Well that's good for them, they become nice and rich. The trouble is, the people didn't vote that way at the polling station which is why you have Obama in office. Only about 35% of Americans consider themselves conservative. How is appealing to that base alone ever going to win the Presidency? Conservative values are fine, I consider myself a conservative, but the hate-based conservatism of Hannity and Beck isn't. Conservatism is best when it is a positive force. Think Reagan or Nixon's appeal to the 'silent majority'. To win the Presidency in America still requires a broad church of appeal, I'm not sure you've grasped that concept.

"If this upsets you, look away until the smoke clears."

If your remedy for conservative electoral gain is followed by the GOP, I'll be looking away for a very very long time before they ever regain office.

"Which end of Independent do we appeal to?"

Well let me have a think about that one? How about the end that tends to favour small government, lower taxes, moral values and a strong American defence but who are less happy with dogmatic moral absolutism, intolerance and collapsing economies.

Conservatives have the right answers for America's problems but they need to stress what they are for, not always railing against what they are against. Their problem is not about policy, it's about tone.

beloved

CC, I answered you, but the post never showed.

I said No to moderates. Yes to Independents.

An American

beloved,

I'm with you. Until the American public understands the difference between socialism and what living in a Republic means...they will continue be led down the garden path to destruction by the likes of Obama.

Thank God for people like Beck, Limbaugh and Hannity. I only wish that Limbaugh would come down harder on socialism and how it is destroying us.

CC,
It's gutless moderates that have helped the left get us into this quagmire.

beloved

CC please consider this post.

Here's the outcome of a "Moderate" Republican politician and why Democrats push so hard for Republicans to be more "conciliatory, bipartisan, and reach out to moderates":

Specter could be 'toast' in 2010 election, pollster says
By Brad Bumsted
STATE CAPITOL REPORTER
Saturday, February 28, 2009

HARRISBURG --A new statewide poll shows 53 percent of Pennsylvanians -- and 66 percent of Republicans -- want someone to replace Sen. Arlen Specter.

Asked whether they think Specter, a Philadelphia Republican, has done his job well enough to win re-election or whether they'd prefer a "new person" in that job, registered voters by a 53-38 percent margin said it's time to give someone else a chance, according to the poll by Susquehanna Polling and Research. Eight percent were undecided.

The numbers might reflect Specter's vote as one of three Republican senators who enabled passage of President Obama's $787 billion federal stimulus package, said James Lee, president of Harrisburg-based Susquehanna polling. But they reflect long-standing dissatisfaction among Republican conservatives with Specter's record, he said.

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"Moderate" Republicans lose elections to Democrats who sound more conservative during an election. That blueprint is how the Dems gained majority power in Congress.

Those "undecideds" by the way are also "moderate" voters. They are undecided because they haven't the faintest clue what is going on, and you can't bring them up to speed unless you start at the beginning: "In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth..." If you manage to get to Nehemiah, a moderate will reply, "I'm not very political; it's all Greek to me!" Moderates graciously used to disqualify themselves from voting. Now they vote for the candidate with the brightest smile because he seems like 'a real nice person who doesn't fight with that other guy in all the political commercials I saw on TV.' All the Dems have to do to win moderates is give them the impression that a Rep candidate is 'a really, really meanie man.' Elections that cater to moderates swing on a nice-guy/mean-guy ratio. Rambo may be all-American but he isn't very polite. Kaptain Kangaroo, on the other hand, always uses his best company manners when he raises our taxes and assumes unconstitutional federal jurisdiction over independent citizens.