The Durban demarche

Michael B

"A horrible omen."
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That's the gentlest thing that can be said about this reversal while still remaining responsibly descriptive.

An American

When far-leftie Susan Rice and that 'nutcase' Powers came on board, I had hoped that Hillary would be able to stand her ground and handle them...

It looks like Obama put Rice and Powers in these positions to undermine Hillary...

If this is really what is happening...she won't last long or will completly capitulate to Obama's cronie's far-left, anti-Israel agenda. If nothing else, Hillary is a survivor.

None of this bodes well for Israel.

marsouin

Durban will not be just anti-Jew, but largely anti-white , anti-Western, and anti-liberal. I vividly recall Durban I on BBC radio. When Mugabe, the tyrant thug of black Africa, came before the crowd to speak, he railed with indignation against his critics as part of a Western, racist conspiracy. The crowd roared with approval. And, to my then naive surprise, the BBC correspondent spoke approvingly of Mugabe’s remarks. Durban II will simply be a repeat for the international league of race-hustling poverty pimps to show their stuff. And for the Western media, ridden with the malignant narcissism of white guilt, will enable this moral sewage all they can.

Dan Schwartz in Sayreville, New Jersey

The decision to engage with ‘Durban 2’ looks like the first scalping of Hillary. It is a horrible omen.

Underestimate the Clinton/Schumer Machine at your own peril.

...Although, Arkancide is off the table for the time being.

Dan Schwartz in New Jersey

Lord Mark Malloch-Brown...

Ah, yes, we remember him, when he called out "Rush Lim-bow" when he was exposed as a corrupticrat at the UN.

"Rush Lim-bow" is right up there with "Jenjis Khan" when it comes to Talk Radio sound bites.

Lauren Knapp Resnik

Melanie you’re spot on, in perfect time, always with consistent eloquence and lethal debate tactics! We love you over here. Just a reminder to the world: half of America vehemently opposes Obama's actions. This conservative half includes myself and is the only reason I have not lost complete faith in the U.S. Please remember that this prestidigitator as US President does NOT represent America, by any means. He is a travesty to the entire US Government and western civilization. There are still millions of pro-Israel, powerful US citizens who fight daily to defeat this dysfunctional, twisted, “progressive” mindset.

Kimberley McKaig

Hillary Clinton is a figurehead, Obama's minions are strategically placed to carry out the real agenda of the left, and she'll be "left" holding the bag. Oh, well, at least her speeches will garner her a pretty penny after she resigns in frustration. It's all good.

Shezza from Oz

This appears to be a terrible omen. However, the quicker Israel understands where it stands with regards to the realpolitik of the world the quicker Israel will make decisions based on National self interest and not in delusions

Franker

This is Obama's revenge upon the Clintons for their campaign against him.

JJS

The sole purpose of putting Clinton in her position was to give it a veneer of "historic" respectability, all this so that while Obabma follows his agenda (Islamisation of the west — he was "placed" there as part of the grand scheme) it will look to the outside world as if his actions have the imprimataur of mainstream America. Chillingly brilliant.

gary ashton

shezza= spot on

Rob-NY

I believe that Durban II will be an attempt to rationalise a "world without Israel" and prepare the world for a nuclear Iran. We must watch this meeting carefully

RUTH

Don't Palestinians deserve human rights?

Mr R

Obama has signed a presidential determination allowing hundreds of thousands of Palestinians to resettle in the United States. Sure, what can go wrong when we allow hundreds of thousands of people who have been, as Mark Steyn memorably described, "marinated" in a "sick death cult," who voted for Hamas, and 55% of whom support suicide bombings live here and at the American taxpayers' expense:
By executive order, on January 27, (Federal Register on February 4) Obama has ordered the expenditure of $20.3 million in urgent migration assistance to the Palestinian refugees and conflict victims in Gaza to resettle in the United States.
Few on Capitol Hill took note that the order provides a free ticket replete with housing and food allowances to individuals who have displayed their overwhelming support of the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) in the parliamentary election of January 2006 at US taxpayers expense.

Let's review some of Obama's most recent actions since he was inaugurated a little more than two weeks ago:
• His first call to any head of state as president was to Mahmoud Abbas, leader of Fatah party in the Palestinian territory.
• His first one on one interview with any news organization was with Al Arabia television.
• He ordered Guantanamo Bay closed and all military trials of detainees halted.
• He ordered all overseas CIA interrogation centers closed.
• He withdrew all charges against the masterminds behind the USS Cole and 9/11.
• Today we learn that he is allowing hundreds of thousands of Palestinian refuges to move to and live in the US at American taxpayer expense.

So we can't pay our own bills. Our economy is dying, hundreds of thousands of people are losing their jobs, and now we will pay to move terrorists and their supporters to live free in our country? What about the thousands of our brave soldiers who gave their lives to fight these terrorists? Obama insulted the Medal of Honor Award winners at their Inauguration Ball by being the first President in over 40 years to not show up and now he inviting their very enemies to come live in our country at our expense? Why not just send all of our weapons over there and allow them to kill us now? It will be less painful!
Now you see why the founding fathers wanted to protect us from a president with divided loyalties! Now do you see why congress and the Supreme court should have made Obama show proof of natural born citizenship.

ann

RUTH - where did anyone say they don't? It is the Arabs, not the Jews, who abridge the human rights of others. Stop talking nonsense.

An American

Ruth,

Does Hamas give human rights to its own Palestinian citizens?

Apparently not if you belong to FATAH, etc...its ok to maime, torture, kill anyone who isn't in the Hamas party.

Perhaps the Palestinians in Thugdom should clean up their own filthy back yard before insisting that others clean it up for them.

W.B. Harris

It was (? Not sure) reported about this Israeli Humour at UN – whether true or not – doesn’t matter, but the truth is REALLY BIG with what was denied in the following story/joke and then the closing comment!

The Palestinians have NO right nor genuine claim to where Israel is located – even their Allah agrees. History bares this out.

An ingenious example of speech and politics occurred recently in the United Nations Assembly and made the world community smile.

A representative from Israel began:

“Before beginning my talk I want to tell you something about Moses. When he struck the rock and it brought forth water, he thought, 'What a good opportunity to have a bath!'

He removed his clothes, put them aside on the rock and entered the water.

When he got out and wanted to dress, his clothes had vanished. A Palestinian had stolen them.' “

The Palestinian representative jumped up furiously and shouted, “What are you talking about? The Palestinians weren't there then.' “

The Israeli representative smiled and said, “And now that we have made that clear, I will begin my speech.”

This is why there is a movement to destroy Israel – the anit-christ movement world wide wants to eliminate the earth of GOD’S chosen people. What’s going on now is a crusade heading completely the opposite of those of centuries ago.

It will never happen, but it will have tragic consequences for millions of innocent people who’ve been brainwashed by this sinful movement.

When one panders with evil, shall be destroyed because of their deceit.

Open your eyes, speak out and take action to soften the eventual calamity of destruction that is about to hit us full force.

An American

Mr. R

You've just ruined my day...

Obama is now going to bring hundreds of thousands of brain-washed Palestinian enemies into our heartland with our hard earned tax dollars?

Aren't these the same people who have been swearing 'Death to America' by the tens of thousands and dancing in the streets when we were attacked on 9/11?

These people know nothing but hate, war and living on the dole...what can they contribute to our society except what we see happening in the UK and Europe...They can, however, add hundred of thousands more votes to Obama in the next elections.

It's becoming clearer and clearer with each day... that Obama has a deep abiding hate for America and intends to destroy us...

The best way to destroy a country and it's people is from within...

Many bloggers believe that Obama will be voted out in the next election(s)...No way...They don't understand what/who we are dealing with..The Messiah will manage to stay on until none of us will recognize what was once our beloved America.

Ruth,

Mr. R's blog news should make you happy...our neighborhoods will be filled with all these Palestinian refugees in the near future. And we won't be allowed to complain when they start screaming their Jihadist rhetoric, insisting on sharia law...you know, you can cut your wife's head off if you're having a bad day... and burning our cars...not politically correct, you know...

We'll be told to suck it up... our 'Messiah' Obama wanted this for his fellow Muslims and believes Americans deserve it.

God...we need your help.

Conservative Pedestrian

Mr R: Pass this word urgently to every American:

Hussein Obama's Administration agreed to participate in the preparations for the Durban II Conference and, in violation of the Congressional requirement that the US Constitution's First Amendment be preserved from any attempts by previous Durban Conference to threaten it, Hussein Obama's representative at the Durban II preliminary discussions has agreed to clauses which imperil the First Amendment.

The full article in National Review is linked to from here:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/024900.php#respond

The Oath of Office for the Presidency of the USA requires the President to swear to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." Obama's action, in agreeing to US particpation at the Durban Conference, in so far as US agreement to its provisions (Article 4 and 5) would threaten the US Constitution, are grounds for his impeachment.

RUTH

An American, Mr R and Anne.

You all come mighty close to race hate with the comments you have posted above.

AA - you say the Palestinians should 'clean up their own filthy back yard', as it they are dogs.

Mr R - you think the US should exclude Palestinian imigrants because they support suicide bombings and are 'marinated in a sick death cult'.

And Anne, you seem to think Arabs 'abridge' the human rights of Jews, a month after Israel killed 1300 Palestinians, maimed thousands more, refuses to lift the blockade etc etc etc.

I suggest you all listen to yoursleves a little bit more closely. Its OK here, because Ms Phillips' site seems to have become a home from home for crackpots, but in the wider world, views like yours are little short of repulsive.

RUTH

Dues - nobody's actually answered my question - no end of recrimination - but no responses either.

Simple question.

Don't Palestinians deserve human rights?

Suffolkbor

Mr.R :
Welcome to the club .
We here in Britain have been a sinkhole for the worlds belligerents for many years now
and of course none of us have been asked what we feel about providing their upkeep through our taxes .
You simply would not believe the number of gangsters , terrorists and assorted pond slime that pour through our non existent borders .
British soldiers are fighting and dying in Afghanistan whilst those that despise us and wish to enslave us get a free ride in our ancestral home and the full protection of the Europaen Human Rights Act .
Your C.I.A. recently described Britain as an Islamist swamp .
Oh happy days .

Adam B.

Ruth, the answer is yes. And your point is?

JJS

RUTH - simple question: Does Hamas grant Palestinians human rights? I think you'll find the answer is no.

Adam B.

Ruth, the casualty figure was not 1300. Why not make it a million?

Perhaps you should listen to yourself.

Mr R

Not fair. Anti-semites get to post their filth, but when I refer to responding their fetid outpourings as the housekeeping equivalent of drawing attention to dog mess on the sidewalks, so others can see it for what it is, this does not get through the moderation process? Sorry; that's not right.

RUTH

Mr R - if the moderator allowed your comments regarding dog's mess on the sidewalk, I d hate to think what he struck out!

Adam B - what was the precise casualty figure please? Everywhere is 1300, and 420 children. Do you know better?

Please tell...

patricia

JJS - Palestinians elected Hamas, who provide social services, education, jobs and security against overwhelming odds.

Unless you define human rights as the right to bomb humans, I think you should agree that Hamas gives Palestinians a lot more respect than Israel does.

Linda Smith

Patricia (20 Feb 1:28pm) After some of the the Gazans elected Hamas, Hamas murdered their opponents. Hamas continue to murder and terrorize their opponents in Gaza, one of their favourit social services being shooting non-supporters in the legs. Is that the sort of security and "democracy" you support?

Of course people have the "human right" to bomb other humans. It's called self defence. Ever heard of the Second World War? Maybe you think Britain should have surrendered to the Nazis instead of bombing them?

JJS

Patricia - Israelis elected their government, who provide social services, education, jobs and security (to Israelis both Jewish and Arab, by the way!!!) against overwhelming odds.... SO?? What's your point?

Clearly you define human rights as the right to use children as [Palestinian] human shields -- so, again, what point are you actually trying to make? Or has your Jew-hatred completely corroded any logical thought processes you may ever have been capable of?

You're proving, thank Heavens, that your hatred is so rooted in something other than logic and the facts, that you do my job - of trying to expose it for what it really is - for me. Thank you.

patricia

JJR - Good Try!

You start off well, shifting the blame neatly onto Hamas for keeping their children at home in Gaza during the bombing, where they were most likely to get killed, instead of packing them off to their grandparents in the shires, like we did when the Nazis bombed London.

But you let yourself down with a series of personal insults in your closing paragraphs. Shame.

Linda - have you heard the one about people living in glass houses throwing stones? Guess not.

Would remind you also that it was Hamas that cleaned up Fatah corruption, which is they which is why they were voted in to power and Fatah was voted out.

Linda Smith

Patricia: From your comments it would seem you are a Hamas supporter, ie a supporter of militant Islamic fundamentalism. As the militant Islamic fundamentalist project for world domination is not one that I subscribe to, I regard all your comments as terrorist propaganda and dismiss you as a "useful idiot".

Adam B.

Ruth, the casualty figure you quote was the one provided by Hamas, the neo-Nazi organization which advocates the extermination of the Jews, kneecaps its opponents and shoots people in hospital beds and throws people to their deaths from rooftops - an organization towards which you demonstrate a truly grotesque affection. In the Italian newspaper Corriera della Sera, a Palestinian doctor commented (anonymously - he didn't want to be killed by Hamas) that the figure provided by Hamas, and is oft quoted (without having been verified) by gullible haters of Israel like you was inaccurate - he estimated it was between 500-600, with an overwhelming majority being men aged 17-23. He also said many of these men had been forced into fighting the Israelis in the streets by Hamas, being threatened if they did not comply. He also commented that half the hospital beds in Shifa hospital were empty, scotching the lies that the Palestinian hospitals were overwhelmed and couldn't cope. But you carry on believing your hateful narrative - you will anyway.

JJS

Patricia, your response to my post was childish in the extreme. It was also dishonest in that it misquoted what I had said. Who taught you to "argue" like that? (I know the answer.) I'm afraid I cannot engage with you if you are going to respond in that way. When hamas treats Palestinians with the respect you demand that Israelis treat them with, then perhaps there will be no need for wars. Your hatred, I'm fear, will continue unabated.

An American

Ruth and Patricia,

I am always mystified by women like you who seem not to care about how Muslims treat all women.

My question to you is why are you so concerned about Palestinian's/Mulsim's human rights when these very Muslims refuse to give simple human rights to their mothers, sisters, wives and daughters?

Why do you alway ignore this important basic human issue?

Suffolkbor

An American:
The question that you asked Ruth and Patricia concerning the Muslim attitude to Womens rights is an interesting one .

One of the things which is really hard to fathom about Western Women who rush to the defence of the Islamic view of the world is that the treatment of Women witin that ideology is never questioned at all .

We all know how aggressive Feminism has been during the last 40 years concerning rights for Women and yet the silence from feminists about Islam,s treatment of their gender is deafening .

You will hear nothing on the subject from any of the Feminist groups whom , I believe , either have a tacit agreement with their leftist Brothers who have allied themselves with the Islamofacists not to encroach on their territory , or secretly harbour a desire to be dominated by Men from such an opposite culture to our own Western one .

I believe that Germaine Greer was once asked why she did not profess any great interest in Muslim womens rights as regards to domestic violence .
The reply she gave was a simple one .
" It is their culture , isn,t it ? "
Can you imagine the reaction being the same to European or American men if they advocated regular beatings of their wives or held to the belief that a womans ultimate happiness is beneath her husbands feet ?
Totally bizarre !

An American

Suffolkbar,

Thank you for your reply.
Yes, I've seen liberal, educated western women marry Muslims and take on the shroud and become completely subservient...it must go back to some romantic notion of living with a macho caveman...He likes to beat me...showing all that emotion must show how much he really loves me...I'm not a psychiatrist...but it would take one to understand some of these women.

Whatever the reason, it shows that liberal women like liberal men are hypocrites through and through.

An American

Ruth,

Where are you?

I would appreciate hearing your answer to my question on human rights for Muslim women?

RUTH

American, JJS, Linda Smith etc etc.

You all assume automatically that anyone who speaks up for the rights of Palestinians is a Jew hating, self loathing, fundamentalist friendly, shroud covered convert to some unspeakable cult.

And then, once you have cleared the air, you start with the insults.

I don't know what simplicity tablets you all take for breakfast, or where you go to find your unique concepts of justice and human rights.

I do know that logic, humanity and history mean nothing to you.

So maybe I should get with the plan and use this site to spit venom on anyone not quite like you and sidle up with an unspeakably unpleasant hiss to anyone who is.

An American

Ruth,

Your reply to my question was frankly pretty pathetic...where is the venom that you attribute to me?...I only asked you a simple question, which you didn't answer.

I didn't say or infer that you were, your quote: "Jew hating, self loathing, fundamentalist friendly, shroud covered convert to some unspeakable cult", etc....

My question to you about human rights for Muslim women was not answered.

Perhaps you can try again. I look forward to your reply.

Linda Smith

Ruth "I do know that logic, humanity and history mean nothing to you."

Apparently they mean nothing to you, Ruth.

The "Palestinians", ie the Arabs living in the British mandate of Palestine, are the authors of their own misery. They were given a state of their own under UN Resolution 181 of 29 November 1947. The Arabs refused and declared war.

The rest is history, depending which side you are on.

"Human rights" ideology is relativity gone mad. Why don't you speak up for the rights of the Germans and the Japanese not to be bombed in World War II? Or perhaps you'd rather we had lost?

Linda Smith

Ruth: You haven't answered An American's question to you of 20 Feb 09 8:56 pm re your failure to speak up for the rights of Moslem women.

"Why do you always ignore this important basic issue?"

Your selectivity is showing. I think its called antisemitism.

Sweetie

Ruth, of course Palestinians deserve human rights but they dont even get it from their own government. While we are on the subject, can you name me just one Moslem country that does uphold human rights?

peter

Sweetie - upholds human rights - what, you mean like Israel does?