Persistently Validating Extremism
Policy Exchange has produced yet another extremely important pamphlet on radical Islamism and the grievous and indeed lethal errors in government policy towards it. Entitled Choosing Our Friends Wisely by Shiraz Maher and Martin Frampton, it is a devastating critique of the centrepiece of that policy, a strategy called Preventing Violent Extremism (PVE). Recently, it was reported that there was a strong feeling in parts of the security establishment that this strategy had been a disaster; defining the problem as only ‘violent’ extremism’, the government had failed to grasp that the core problem is actually religious/ ideological extremism which produces a continuum of divisive, antisocial or threatening views which provides the sea in which violence swims. The strategy should therefore be changed to ‘Preventing Extremism.’
This is a case I have made many times, not least in my book Londonistan. It is not clear whether or how this argument has resolved itself within government – although from a speech made recently by the Communities Secretary Hazel Blears, it looked as if the PVE camp had succeeded in fending off the PE proponents. No surprise there – a change to Preventing Extremism would take clarity of vision and a great deal of courage. Now, though, the Policy Exchange pamphlet has dissected the disaster that is the Preventing Violent Extremism strategy – which, through its unbelievably stupid belief that non-violent extremists can be used as the antidote to violent extremists, is actually radicalising a new generation of Muslims, sometimes with the very funds that are supposed to be countering radicalisation. It says:
Non-violent extremists have consequently become well dug in as partners of national and local government and the police. Some of the government’s chosen collaborators in ‘addressing grievances’ of angry young Muslims are themselves at the forefront of stoking those grievances against British foreign policy; western social values; and alleged state-sanctioned ‘Islamophobia’. PVE is thus underwriting the very Islamist ideology which spawns an illiberal, intolerant and anti-western world view.
Political and theological extremists, acting with the authority conferred by official recognition, are indoctrinating young people with an ideology of hostility to western values. This strategic error on the part of officialdom is born of a poverty of aspiration: the belief of the authorities that they cannot reasonably ask angry Muslims for much more than a pledge not to use violence in Britain. The effect has been to empower reactionaries within Muslim communities and to marginalise genuine moderates, thus increasing inter-community tensions and envenoming the public space.
Among the disastrous results of this policy is the state funding of Islamist-influenced organisations, such as the United Kingdom Islamic Mission, the Muslim Council of Britain and the Islamic Society of Britain. The Metropolitan Police is selecting advisers against Islamist extremism who have Islamist agendas, including one who supports the creation of an Islamic state and is the subject of an Interpol ‘red notice’. Tower Hamlets council has awarded a grant to the Cordoba Foundation, an Islamist pressure group which gave a platform in turn to Hizb ut Tahrir. Authorities in Lambeth are partnering a hard-line Salafist from Brixton Mosque in the belief that this constitutes the best antidote to violent extremism. And so on, and preposterously on.
The report also touches upon the fault line in government between the Communities Secretary Hazel Blears on the one hand and Justice Secretary Jack Straw and Foreign Secretary David Miliband on the other, revealed when the latter two chose to turn a blind eye to the Islamist speakers at the Global Peace and Unity conference in October 2008 which resulted in ministers overriding Blears’s objections to appear at that event. While Blears has attempted to inject a modicum of realism and common sense into the government’s anti-Islamist strategy, she appears to have been squashed by Straw in particular, who by all accounts acts as a powerful force for bad in throwing a protective arm around the Islamists within the government tent.
The report exposes the fact that the ‘Radical Middle Way’ – a group of influential international and national mainstream scholars and thinkers – run by Muslim youth organisations and backed the Foreign Office, Home Office and Department of Communities and Local Government -- appears to be more radical than middle. It relies on importing dubious foreign clerics for its roadshows challenging ‘violent extremist ideology’, and invites speakers such as Kemal el-Helbawy, previously a spokesman for the Muslim Brotherhood, and Catherine Heseltine, the self-described ‘National Campaigns Manager’ for the Muslim Public Affairs Committee-UK(MPACUK), which was found by the All-Party Parliamentary Inquiry into Antisemitism to be one of ‘a minority of Islamist extremists in this country [who] do incite hatred towards Jews’.
If this is the ‘middle way’, just what is extremism?
It also exposes the lethal ignorance and muddle about Islamism within the Local Government Association. In one of its publications, for example, the LGA minimises the problem of Islamist extremism when it says:
...terms such as extremism and radicalisation also have their limitations as many historical radicals are now praised in classrooms as brave shapers of civil society. It must be made clear that the threshold is crossed when extreme and radical views are expressed or threatened to be expressed through violence.
According to the report, this particular text was supplied to the LGA by Dilwar Hussain, head of the Policy Research Centre based at the radical Islamic Foundation.
Most worrying of all, however, is the way in which the lethally flawed PVE strategy has been comprehensively absorbed by the police. As a result, the police are working with extremist Islamist ideologues and radicals – a strategy which, as the report says, can alter the balance of power within Muslim communities and impede their integration into wider British society. In addition, the police are themselves now reflecting some of this radicalism. Thus the Association of Chief Police Officers has said the police must
ensure that ‘genuine grievances that contribute to violent extremism are addressed effectively and perceived grievances rebutted’.
But what are ‘genuine grievances’ that must be thus rebutted? Criticism of Islamist extremism? The existence of Israel? Evidently so – as demonstrated by the extraordinary decision by the West Midlands Police to report Channel 4 to the broadcasting regulator Ofcom over fears that its investigation into hate preachers in some British mosques might have harmed ‘community cohesion’; or by the cautionary tale of Sgt Amar Shakoor of Strathclyde Police who signed an open letter on behalf of the Strathclyde Muslim Police Association condemning Israel’s actions in Gaza.
As Professor Tom Gallagher of Bradford University’s Peace Studies Department has observed, ‘However diligent a search in the annals of Glasgow police history, I doubt if it will be easy to discover a precedent for a serving officer taking such an overt political stand.’ As Gallagher noted, the danger of such actions is that it may lead to a serious loss in confidence in the impartiality of the police, with the result that ‘Glasgow´s investment in anti-sectarian work’ will go ‘up in smoke’.
All this explains the debacle in the last few days over Dr Daud Abdullah, deputy director-general of the Muslim Council of Britain and a member of the Mosques and Imams National Advisory Board, the government-appointed body that trains supposedly ‘moderate’ imams and is designed to curtail the activities of extremist clerics. In January, Dr Abdullah briefed the home secretary, Jacqui Smith, and communities secretary Hazel Blears on the situation in Gaza and its likely impact on social cohesion in the UK. But as the Observer reported, it has now emerged that he was one of 90 Muslim leaders from around the world who signed a public declaration in support of Hamas and military action – and advocated attacks on the Royal Navy if it tried to stop arms for Hamas being smuggled into Gaza.
It also provides the context to make sense of the extraordinary double standards being employed by the Home Office in barring entry to Britain of the Dutch anti-Islamist MP Geert Wilders while intending to let in Dr Ibrahim el Moussaoui, a member of Iran’s proxy army Hezbollah and one of the former heads of al-Manar Television, the terrorist body’s official media wing, who has described Jews as ‘a lesion on the forehead of history’. Now the Centre for Social Cohesion has said it will seek a warrant for his arrest if he should enter the UK.
The reason for a strategy of such egregious and lethal stupidity is the refusal by the British establishment to acknowledge that the driver of Islamist extremism is not ‘grievances’ but religious ideology. The result is a strategy which has made Britain the laughing stock of the world – and which offers up its throat to its Islamist foes.
PVE: Persistently Validating Extremism.
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Jerry
March 11th, 2009 1:52amIt is the way of the world that people learn best by personal experience. Things have to happen to people before they change their views. Before such personal events, attitudes toward others' aggressive acts are at least partially determined by "NOT ME." "I'm not part of that victimized group. I don't look like them. Attacks on me would be irrational."
In this regard, thank you, Melanie, for the George Galloway article. I wonder how he has changed, if at all. Perhaps he can find a way to blame the Jews for the attacks at the hands of the local Egyptians in Sinai. Can we have an update by someone who knows?
GutClean
March 11th, 2009 1:58amYes, completely agree. I spent time some years ago in Saudi working and living as a 'local' (i.e. not insulated in a compound) and amongst Muslim 'moderates' from the UK and I can absolutely confirm that their 'moderate' views (for example the conviction that Shariah law is God's law and thus should also be the UK's law) are the germ-seeds for violent extremism and a spreading cancer.
The reason why so many people accept this naive tolerance of extreme moderate views incidentally is essentially because they've been indoctrinated to by our schools and the National Curriculum ... but that's another story which nevertheless urgently needs addressing.
Winston Smith
March 11th, 2009 2:35amHmm.....
Interesting read. I suppose many people on here are asking, what on earth are we supposed to do when the people who are supposed to protect us have allied with our enemies?
One thing as well which sums up the governments stance on radical Islam was on the programme undercover Mosque the Return, when it was found out that the government is doing nothing about the pumping of Wahabism(reformed Islam) into the UK's faith schools and Mosques?
And yet yesterday we have these same "radicals" protesting in Luton with posters such as "Anglian soldiers go to hell", while being protected by police as the soldiers, back from Afghanistan and Iraq parade past.....
Britain, great place to be if you hate it, loathe it and want to see its destruction, yet a living Hell for those who love it and are proud of being British. I wonder when it will be a crime to be British in Britain and by just being so will be an attack on those not?
I can still leave the UK, but I feel sorry for the elderly who can't. This is what happens when you create a society that doesn't teach loyalty to the country.
Jason from AZ
March 11th, 2009 4:04amUK - you once led one of the greatest empires in the history of world. Now, due to your immigration policies, desire for "multiculturism," and dreadful politicians during the past two decades, you will have gone from an enviable empire and world power to just another third world Islamist state.
Sad to see you go UK. If it makes you feel any better, most of European neighbors from France to Sweden are not far behind. I just hope we in the US have learned enough from your mistakes to avoid your fate.
seb
March 11th, 2009 6:36amI believe that the technique of applying arselikhan to 'non-violent extremists', as though extremism is not a sort of violence, was first documented by Tom Wolfe in his book 'Radical Chic and Mau-Mauing the Flak Catchers'. The useful idiots are, of course, the UKs well-meaning flak-catchers from whom the 'peaceful' Mau Maus extort the usual concessions. Secular democracy, except if you're a Mau Mau. Rule by one and only one set of laws, unless of course you're a Mau Mau. Tolerance and the separation of state and religion. Unless of course you're a Mau Mau. And so on.
EDDIE
March 11th, 2009 8:05amThe process of denial in this country has emboldened some Muslim extremist to think they would be supported in their demonstration against returning troops, when in fact they suffered a real PR disaster.
Muslims are allowed to travel to the conflict area and to fight against this country. A so called temporary resident is rescued from Guantanamo and tells a series of uncorroborated stories about his torture which may or may not be true and these stories are disseminated by the media as fact. On the other hand what was he doing in Afghanistan in the first place?
The recent terrorist killing in Northern Ireland has been thoroughly condemned by past IRA members and they actually visited some of the bereaved families to show their strongest support for police action.
In this country, I cannot remember much of a response to the atrocities at King Cross or all the other attempts at mass murder. Surely silence or even a muted response might be seen as complicity?
Finally, I am confused as to who is a terrorist. Presumably killers in the UK are deemed by the media as terrorists and those who kill Jews are Insurgents?
Paul from Amsterdam
March 11th, 2009 8:11amOne thing is for sure. Almost all people from the continent I speak to, from Denmark to France, from Holland to Germany, see GB as already totally lost. Once so great now in the abyss of multicultural appeasment and Islam.
just Louise (Louise that was)
March 11th, 2009 8:50amThat incident in Luton yesterday, when Muslim extremists in Islamic robes insulted the Royal Anglian Regiment coming home from a tour of duty in the ME, was a repulsive spectacle. A bunch of women in black burkhas and beak-like nose coverings that made them look like sinister crows were also there. Not surprisingly, tempers among the spectators welcoming the Anglians home flared - with consequent arrests. Tellingly, some Sikhs (a noble people who fought loyally for Britain in several wars, with spectacular courage) were also in the crowd, warmly applauding the regiment.
Isn't it time those "moderate" Muslims the government is so fond of talking about started to shout a bit more loudly about the actions of people like the placard-wavers?
Of course, we'll be assured (by our dhimmi officialdom) that they were but a tiny unprepresentative minority of Muslims in this country. If they are not British subjects, isn't it time to kick them out?
In my youth I used to thank the Almighty daily for making me British. In those days it truly felt like the old cliche, that we who were born British had won the lottery of life. Not any more. Now I look longingly across the Herring Pond - and to the Antipodes. To our posters in those places, please heed what's happening in Europe and spread the word that your countries must restrict Muslim immigration. Australia's ex-PM John Howard had the right idea. On present evidence, it is not only bad for the Jews. It is bad for everybody who relishes freedom.
Worried
March 11th, 2009 8:52amAnd in related news...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/defence/4968576/Muslim-extremists-shout-abuse-at-British-soldiers-during-home-coming-march.html
GaryO
March 11th, 2009 9:35am"Islamist extremism is not ‘grievances’ but religious ideology"
That sentence should be carved on the foreheads of all our politicians, bbc and Guardian jouralists and of course, Rowan "Sharia" Williams.
Larry
March 11th, 2009 9:48amJason the US is learning nothing, in fact under Obama your dhimmification intensifies.
Original Tony
March 11th, 2009 10:22amI agree with Larry, the US is on its way out as well, under Obama.
I am so glad the crowd supporting the Anglian Regiment turned on the Muslim protesters; it is just the begiining of what is about to happen all over this country and the rest of the free world.
For protesters to be able to carry placards that wish our soldiers a ride to hell should at the very least result in arrests and passport searches. If the person is found to be a permamnent resident he should be deported and a naturalised citizen stripped of his citizenship.
Sam Armstrong
March 11th, 2009 10:44amJason from AZ
March 11th, 2009 4:04am
Another sick wreath from America, really helpful, thanks. Beautifully written too. In fact Sweden and the Netherlands are further down this road than the UK. France has 10% Muslim population, Britain 2%. So perhaps maybe go on some French and Swedish blogs as well, and leave your condolences to them first? Cultural domination by the US means they have impeccable English, so you should be understood.
As for your own country, maybe flick back through some past Melanie blogs to see just how far you have travelled down this same path. It's much much further than you think. The answer is no: you are not learning from our mistakes, in fact I read yesterday that even though Obama is not exactly an Anglophile, his team have done a little ideological shopping in Britain. Be very afraid.
just Louise
March 11th, 2009 12:14pmOriginal Tony, can you imagine how quickly thge police would have moved if the protesters had been BNP members at some Muslim parade? They would sharply have dealt with them. These Muslim fanatics should have been moved out of sight, and a writ slammed on them for breach of the peace if they refused. They have affronted the British Army and its war dead.
John Streather.
March 11th, 2009 12:57pmFor nearly 120 years after the conquest of Granada the crypto-Muslims in Spain continued to practise Islam throughout the Spanish possessions,to wear Muslim dress and to speak Arabic - all this in spite of having promised to abandon all these practices in order to remain in Spain. In addition to this, they colluded with North African pirates in sacking, burning and pillaging Spanish coastal townns and villages and carrying off the inhabitants to sell them in the North African Muslim slave markets. We see the same deliberate lack of assimilation and allying of themselves with our deadliest enemies amongst the Muslims in present-day Britain. They or their parents and granparents have all been allowed to settle here without the native people of these islands ever having been consulted and without their consent. In 1609 King Philip 111 decreed that all the moriscos, (the crypto-Muslims), should be expelled from the Spanish realms. By 1614 300,000 of them had been deported to live amongst their co-religionists in North Africa. No one harmed them or wished to harm them; they just didn't want them in their country any longer. Can we learn anything from King Philip 111? All raiding of Spanish towns and villages stopped after the last Muslims had left Spain and no more Spaniards were carried off to be sold - unless the Muslim corsairs managed to capture European ships at sea - which they unfortunately did with some frequency.
Dixon
March 11th, 2009 1:08pmSo long as the heir to the throne endorses these fruitcakes..."Duchy Originals" indeed...no-one in government has much room for maneouvre.
Original Tony
March 11th, 2009 1:17pmJust Louise...good point...the BNP would have been given short shrift if they had acted like that at a Muslim parade. I am so sick of the hypocrisy and think I must start a petition to send to the Home Office. Who will join me?
Jack R
March 11th, 2009 1:57pmYes, 'persistently validating extremism', and persistently normalising it; today, the commemoration of five years since the Madrid train bombings, receives little attention in the media outside Spain.
John D
March 11th, 2009 2:33pmThe heir to the throne believes in so-called 'global warming' and that he can tame Islam by being 'defender of faith'.
Has any monarch ever sold out his own people like this?
Keith
March 11th, 2009 2:45pmWhen the Govt. introduced the Religious Hate Legislation and started shovelling out money to organised religions they appear to have polarised every group and now we have the spectacle of all the organised religions scrabbling after their rights and the cash like urchins searching for pennies in the dirt.When all the legislation and measures are added together I believe they represent a hate crime not only against non believers but even those who believe in a Supreme Being but are not attached to any religion because they find the doctrine represents low standards.This is a funding trap because the demands of the religious for cash will be insatiable.
Winston Smith
March 11th, 2009 3:19pmA couple of points:
1. There are no Muslim fanatics or religious extremists, there are simply Muslims who follow the teachings of Muhammad and those who don't. Which asks the question; "If you don't follow the teachings of the founder of your religion, how can you be a follower?"
2. Just Louise asked; "Can you imagine how quickly the police would have moved if the protesters had been BNP members at some Muslim parade?"
The answer would have been the Police would have arrested the BNP supporters for Inciting Religious Hatred. It would have been all over the newspapers, the Muslim elders and councils of Britain would be complaining to the Government and there would have been no riot police turning up at the sign of trouble.
3. This despicable protest in Luton should have been dealt with as treason as it is nothing less. However there will be no action against these protests as the Saudi Arabians would not be happy.
The sad fact in the UK is that when it comes to British people protesting about the death of the UK, the police are there to hamper, break up and even stop them. However when it's a case of Islamists marching through the UK such as banned outfits like Al-Muhajiroun(at the Luton protest) or Anjem Choudary marching through the East End demanding Sharia Law and Islamisation it's ok, no problem there.
We are allowed Freedom of Speech if it benefits Islam(recent marches and Hezbollah Dr. Ibrahim el-Moussaoui allowed to come to the UK to speak) but if it's against Islam then it's a no no(Geert Wilders or any BNP march).
And the government and people wonder why the BNP are winning seats throughout the UK? Looks like Luton(although 19% Muslim) will be another BNP stronghold.
If only the government listened to their people, instead of the minorities, this country would be such a better place and not full of angry, disheartened people who know their political elite and establishments have abandoned them. That truly is a sad situation indeed.
Australians for Non-Bigoted Thinking
March 11th, 2009 3:41pmWhat seems so sad, is the strategy that has led to this sorry situation, has been generated from such a SMALL MINORITY of perverse, arrogant, imposing and manipulative ‘they who know what is best for us’ leftist ‘academics’ and propagandists, that have gained the power and to some extent the minds, to affect the whole nation.
This minority of twisted and treasonist malcontents, has used PC strategy to gag free speech, so that any objection to extremism is construed as 'racist', thus allowing matter that would have hitherto been deemed truly racist and against the basic human rights of fellow man (not to be confused with 'human rights law'), to become normalized into the British psyche, just so they can surreptitiously infect their anti-western cannibalising virus upon the unsuspecting populace.
Ultimately, Britain could be sent down a path of at least unrest, and at the most civil war, entrenched Islamification of the worst kind (Sharia Law), and a destruction of the pluralistic, open and sophisticated society that Britains took hundreds of years of reformation and the spilling of brave blood to create....
...Two words...A Tragedy, I just hope you can avert...
P. S.
Keep up the good work Melanie. It is the logical, rational and eloquent voices like yourself, that may help influence the powers that be and the general populace, to alter the direction of this impending doom, that appears to be insidiously engulfing the once Proud and Great Britain.
Linda Smith
March 11th, 2009 3:58pmThe lethally stupid Britain that "offers up its throat to its Islamist foes" is the same lethally stupid Britain that criticises Israel for keeping its border with Gaza closed and for building a wall to protect its citizens against suicide bombers.
Lethally stupid Libdems passed a motion at their Conference condemning only Israel and not Egypt for the situation in Gaza. No mention of Egypt in the text although Egypt has a border with Egypt. (available to view on line)
Lethally stupid Britain has not withdrawn from the religiously ideological Durban II conference.
John.
March 11th, 2009 4:09pmJack: You're too right. Not only does no one pay any attention to this anniversary of the horrific Madrid train bombings but also no one seems to realize that not content with having been chased out of Spain once, the Muslims now claim it back! - as if it were ever theirs to claim! I have heard them say on the TV that "in 20 years this country will be ours". Which country is that? Spain? No, our own coountry of GB! How much longer are our so-called parliamentary representatives going to bury their treacherous and infinitely stupid heads in the sand? And how much longer are we, the native British going to put up with them and their pusillanimous nonsense?
Oliwagino Alefava Yihiri
March 11th, 2009 4:45pmThe labour government created the extremist in this country, they give them everything, they treat them like kings and queens, they even allow them to make bombs in their council flats so they can destroy the British infidels, I could see a lot of anger in the communities no one trust no one because of the mess the labour created, sooner they go better, we don't want to have a civil war and if we do I don't think this politicians will sit their cozy offices in downing street or Westminster, in London I feel sometime we are surrounded by Talibans no we are surrounded by British Islamic extremist what is the difference? it is the same Sh*t!
Herbert Thornton
March 11th, 2009 4:52pmWe all know that the Labour, Tory and Liberal parties are not interested in this topic, so why don't we ask ourselves - what political party does have the courage to speak out against this cancer that is feeding on Britain and to offer the only policy that will cure it?
There is no doubt that it exists but why is it that so few dare speak its name?
Margaret Muller-Johansson
March 11th, 2009 6:02pmJohn, the left wing British liberals and the Labour are behind all this, Did you say how long the British natives are going to put up with them?
Well, the British natives have to stand up for their rights first, I will like to see protest in the streets and people holding posters saying, Muslim extremist don't hang around infidels land for too long just like the Koran says
Suffolkbor
March 11th, 2009 6:23pmI could not help but be struck at how closely the Police guarded the Islamist protesters at the Anglian Regiment parade in Luton yesterday .
I no longer trust the Police as it has become quite evident that they are no longer impartial and invariably side with Muslim extremists as other posters here have noted .
I wonder what would happen if sometime in the near future Britain did become an Islamic state,to our boys in blue ?
Would they obey their new masters and police us with due reverence to sharia law ?
Would they follow orders to round up Jews and dissidents who who may be incarcerated or executed ?
I believe firmly that they would and that they would carry out these duties with unfettered enthusiasm and ruthless effiency .
Winston Smith
March 11th, 2009 6:32pmHerbert Thornton,
The job of any Political Party is to listen to the people. That is the most important aspect of their job, not because if they do it will guarantee them re-election but more importantly because the Government are employed by the people and not the other way around, which has been all too much the case of late.
It was a Labour MP warned "that we must listen to the supporters of the BNP is we ever hope to win their votes."
Although the above is blatantly obvious, at least one of them had the intelligence to address the issue.
I won't be voting for NuLabour, the Conservatives or the Liberals. Firstly because all are one and the same. Secondly because they're all in it for themselves, to get wealthy on the bonuses of being in government and nothing else. And lastly because not one of them has any respect for Britain, it's people, its heritage and its culture.
I have never, ever voted for "that party" but after the loss of our liberties, the government's appeasing to Islamists, the change of the British demographic because of zero immigration controls and of course control from Brussels, I really have no choice. The government don't realise this or the other political parties. We want our country back, our manufacturing industries and to be self sufficient again, not turn into a 2nd World country.
Rodders
March 11th, 2009 11:39pmWinston Smith: You're right. Me too.
John.
March 12th, 2009 2:51pmWinston, we certainly do want our country back again and also the right to say who we would be prepared to give the priviledge of living here amongst us. Since the end of the 2nd World War when most of the hordes of deeply unwelcome people we now have to tolerate, poured in, the actual native people of these islands have never once been consulted as to whether they wanted their land to be delivered into the hands of alien people who hate and despise them, their national religion, culture,traditions and history. And we certainly have never given our consent to this, nor would we have done so had we ever been asked about it. It has been plain from the start that most of the indigenous British have been against this ever-increasing invasion, but all protests to MPs have been ignored and any voicing of opposition in public is now punishable by law. So, what can be done? We never had to be humiliated, as we are now, in order to board planes, we never went in fear of our lives walking the streets of our larger cities at night, the young weren't in danger of becoming drug addicts, we weren't supervised by electronic equipment morning, noon and night - none of this happened because before this massive influx of people of less admirable customs, religions, and so-called culture, there was, by and large, trust between the indigenous citizens and a well-founded expectation of good-will and friendly co-operation between people. Cars were left unlocked and so were houses. Now that drug addiction, rampant religious fanaticism and racial disharmony are so widespread life has become insecure and unenjoyable. We really do need to claim our own country back and find some legal way of stripping all undesirable so-called British citizens of citizenship. If the Spaniards managed to rid themselves of the enemy within in the early 17th century, surely we can manage to do it now? It is said that we need all these people to do jobs spurned by the native British. Were National Service to be re-instituted on a non-military basis this worry could easily be addressed. We are told that we owe people from the former empire a debt. Whatever for? For building hospitals, schools, universities, law courts, railways, roads, irrigation systems and dams, introducing a lingua franca, the rule of law and health care all of which had previously been unimaginable? For spending all the revenue raised in the colonies in the colonies themselves and never outside the colonies? This post-imperial guilt is sheer twaddle. I can find no reason whatsoever for having allowed all these unwelcome people to invade our land. Now that they have become so insolent and unabashed as to publicly admit that their aim is to posses themselves of our islands and that their religious duty is to either convert us to their religion or kill us, it is clearly time to act. The only action I can discover is to support the party which we have all been taught to despise and avoid. Who else is willing to do one single thing?
tommy
March 12th, 2009 5:46pmFirst the definition of moderate muslim must be clearly understood and the only benchmarks/sources for this are the koran and hadith.
Mohammed is the person that sets the standard as he is the one all must try to emulate..
BANG goes the religion of peace fairytale
Aaron S.
March 12th, 2009 7:22pmOne suspects that schoolbooks in maybe two centuries will tell the 20th/21st Century story of Great Britain in this way:
"Following the Allied victory in the Second World War, Great Britain's economy expanded for some time before the country slipped back into the cultural lethargy that had afflicted it since the early 20th Century. As native birth rates declined, large influxes of Muslim migrants helped compensate for the shortage of workers.
"Fearful of violence from its blossoming Muslim population, the government increasingly agreed to the cultural and political demands of the migrants. Traditionally Muslim languages gained official recognition as native British culture entered what is now seen as its 'Expiry Phase'.
"British authorities tried several gambits to mollify Islamic religious aspirations, but after violent civil conflicts, and a final surge of mournful native music and art, waves of Englishmen left their ancient home and emigrated to remaining Anglo cultural strongholds such as North America, Australia, and ironically Ireland.
"The remaining Muslim majority celebrated their hard-won freedom from British oppression. Great Britain today is regarded as a wellspring of northern Islamic culture, and also features a vibrant artistic sector from the remaining Anglo minority, celebrating the 'integrative' opportunities born of the island's new religious and cultural heritage."
Winston Smith
March 12th, 2009 9:51pmJohn.
March 12th, 2009 2:51pm,
What you've written could have been written by me elsewhere. People in the UK are not stupid to see that the change in our culture and rise in crime is certainly down to uncontrolled immigration after the War, no Britain in the UK was ever consulted on.
More importantly the "because of the Empire" answer you gave is spot on and I use it many times over. We have no colonies now. Those former colonies are now in charge of themselves, such as Zimbabwe! we did go to Africa and bring them into the 1st World, with health, technology, science and education. If anyone owes anyone it certainly isn't Britain after what it and it's people have done for billions throughout history.