Night closes in

Linda Smith

Why do the Islamic States dominate the UN Human Rights Council?

Vision Aforethought

@Linda Smith: They are using our own democratic bodies to challenge the very way of life that created said bodies in the first place.

Crafty or what?

Winston Smith

And so it begins......

As the British people were not asked on the waves of immigration to the UK after the War which drastically changed these shores. As the British people were never given a say when Heath took Britain into the corrupt body that is the EU destroying British Industries. As the British were never given a referendum(although promised one) on the Lisbon treaty, so to will the British people have no say in UN legislation passed that makes any criticism of Islam a criminal offence.
The very fact that Muslim countries are behind this, with their wealth and of course led by the 'daddy' Saudi Arabia, is beyond belief. Tell me again, the UN is listening to Islamic Countries(saudi Arabia) go on about Human rights legislation when churches are not allowed to built in their country as well as possession of the Bible illegal?
It was clear for all to see that the Incitement to Religious Hatred Bill of 2005, followed by the subsequent banning of the Blasphemy Laws were all about the protection of Islam over all others.
Ask yourself a question, how many people in the UK no of this current situation on the street? Is it being reported in the Newspaper? Are the headlines "Free speech under threat" all over the Newspapers? No, they aren't and they won't be. Sadly it's all about money and this is the 'catch' for Sharia Complicit finance - "We'll lend you billions of oil money and in return you let us control your laws and Islamise your countries."

The people will still be oblivious to this fact though. It doesn't interest them. They know nothing of what awaits them. to think that our Politicians would sell out their own countries, that their ancestors fought and died for. It's really quite sad.

Linda Smith

@Vision Aforethought: I wasn't asking for what purpose do the Islamic States dominate the UN Human Rights Council? I was asking "how do the Islamic States get to dominate the UN Human Rights Council:?

Who set up the cockeyed system that allows this to happen? What's the point of a Human Rights Council that's run by the worst Human Rights offenders?

journeyman

There was a United Nations prep-com meeting last year,where the vote went 85 for,45 against,40 abstentions,to criminalize the defamation of Islam.
The O.I.C(57 Islamic Nations )Russia,China and many other non-aligned nations, plus some African and South American countries have managed to maintain a majority and out vote the democracies.
I,thanks to the free press, like Brussels Journal and Europe News have known about this for over a year now,but as usual the main-stream-media have attempted to keep it as quiet as possible.
Isræl and Canada will boycott,but other countries are wobbling back and forth,threatning to boycott but not doing so.
The meeting of the Human Rights council was a humiliating,capitulation to the Islamic lobby,and defeat for the cause of International Human Rights.
Another subject the general public and media seems oblivious to,is the historically momentous integration begining 2010 of Morocco,Algeria;Tunisia,Egypt,Jordan and Turkey into the European Union. This treaty is known as the Barcelona Declaration 1996.
It will secure population and labour shortages,secure gas and oil supplies and expand the Euro-Med pop block.
As written in the treaty,xenophobia,racism and religious intolerance to be erradicated and cultural enrichment promoted,assisted by govermental,media,cultural and educational organisations.
I fear I will end up like some former Soviet dissident,pinning counter-revolutionary leaflets on trees and running like hell.

Roy

Fully agree. A good assessment by Winston Smith. The British people have been let down time and time again with no knowledge of what is taking place until too late. Sad to say the least, its a diabolical disgrace. Further silencing of the people by another cast iron padlock being put in place to control the last remnants of free speech.

Peter Kimber

I was dismayed to read of the conference at All Nations Christian College Conference which is hostile to Israel and regards the Old Testament promises to israel as having passed to the Christian Church. As an Evangelical I regard all God's covenants as non-negotiable, so the promise to Abraham that his descendants woudl be blessed and a blessing to all who blessed them stands, as does the converse that those who curse them would in turn attract God's judgement. I would have thought there is strong historical evidence that that promise endures. I am particularly sorry that Colin Chapman takes the position he does since I admire much of his writing..

Peter Kimber

Raymond Joseph Douglas

Saw a shocking report about malmo in Sweden about a combination of leftist agitators and Muslims, have caused mayhem over the visit of the Israeli Davis cup tennis team ! Apparently malmo will have a Muslim majority in the near future . As they say in Sweden "as goes malmo, goes Sweden !

Gil

But surely the atheist Left will rise up against this, no? Those protectors of persecuted minorities in countries like Iran will surely say 'this will not pass', no?
Sadly they won't. What's in it for the Left to antagonise Islamists?

Ronnie

Linda Smith, you just answered your own question.

Rhoda Klapp

So when they say Islam is a religion of peace, will that count as stereotyping?

Mr Melrose

Winston Smith - you should try reading the Guardian or The Independent - no shortage of stories re the current government's facination with control of all aspects of our lives there.

As far as Heath destroying British industries - I think you will find that was Mrs T - changing British industries of the 70's early 80's around was dirty and expensive and required lots of management training (despite our industrial designers being the best in the world)- far easier to pick some fights to show how tough you are, ditch the whole lot, and concentrate on finance, services and outsourcing.

Jan

I watched Question Time last night and was amazed that whenever the Muslim panellist asserted any type of "right" for Muslims (for instance her ridiculous assertion that the Muslim Council does not represent Muslims) there was a knee-jerk spontaneous applause from the predominantly white audience. One felt as if they would have been shamed by the idea of not applauding -- i.e., seen as "racist." And that is when I realised that we have traded in our souls and intellect, and our freedom to judge ideas on their merits, without fear or favour, in exchange for the very dubious benefit of being seen to be PC and inclusive and not "colonial". This is the way to hell, and sadly we are walking along that road voluntarily and misguidedly.

Vision Aforethought

@Jan: You are so spot on. I watched QT a few weeks ago, and it was so obvious that the whole 'show' was stage managed to respond to specific demographic groups in a particular manner. When a polite, educated and Jewish looking/sounding lady began to make a very good point, the camera moved on to the next questioner (in the audience) and the panel responded to that person instead (possibly) because his/her question was more 'in line' with the BBC's leftist dictat.

Nannette

It's time the UN was dismantled and replaced with an organisation of united DEMOCRATIC nations.

The UN should have put into place criteria for member states, but the morally bankrupt and corrupt organisation is responsible for too many of the worlds ills.

Can anyone name just ONE country where they've brought peace instead of war?

JJS

Two good posts from Jan and Vision. Yes, I have found that the bias of Q/Time is staggering. Have you noticed how carefully the audience is structured? And how a woman in a Muslim head scarf will always be given a chance to pose a question? You are very right, Jan, about the way we are headed to trouble.

Carl

UN Watch - sponsored by guess who?

just Louise

How will this UN Diktat square with UN concerns for the status of women? What a betrayal of the brave and brutalised Muslim women who have spoken out about the appalling consequences of living under a primitive patriarchal tribal-based lawcode this will be.
We live in grotesque times.

Woody

When the question came up on QT last night about the Luton army parade, at which a Muslim group raised highly provocative if not libelous placards, the lefties (including "comedian" Mitchell) yelled "we must defend free speech". Charles Moore was the only panellist who got it right. Why, at least, weren't the placards banned? It is obvious the police have been ordered not to prevent Muslims demonstrating, no matter how provocative, and instead round up any whites who protest against such protesters. I think my protest will take the form of boycotting Muslim shops. Then I suppose a another law will be drafted to deal with that sort of thing.

John.

Is there no organization we can join, no native British leaders willing to stand up and assert the right of the indigenous British people to opt out of islamo-fascist-influenced bodies like the present UN and the EU? We need to have laws that the native British people want and that give them the right to choose exactly who they would like to allow to live in their own country and who they would like to expel and damn the collosal financial damage that the Muslim countries can inflict upon us. How can our own people have become so inredibly conditioned and brain-washed as to now be applauding their own oppressors and an increase in that oppression? What can be done? Can informative leaflets be distributed to every indigenous British household pointing out in no uncertain terms precisely the dangers that threaten to overwhelm us and telling them what can be done to counter this imminent threat? Obviously the newspapers and the politicians have betrayed, and are betraying, us. So we need to do something radical off our own bat. Who knows of who can begin to help?

Zikomo

Don't know Carl.Who would be sponoring UN Watch?

Original Tony

Mel..your second sentence is wrong. It is not the "defamation of religion" that the UN is proposing to criminalise, it is the "defamation of ISLAM".

This makes a HUGE difference, because if religions like Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism etc are also included in this proposal, then it would be a uniform, fair application.

But the proposal does NOT include the criminalisation of defaming Christianity, Hinduism, Judaism and Bhuddism but ONLY ISLAM!!!!

This is where it becomes twisted; a point I feel was missed, but well done on the article anyway.

Sam Armstrong

Jan
March 13th, 2009 9:17am

I watched QT too... didn't you think that Baroness Warsi (the Muslim panelist) was arguing for good things though? Such as the abolition of groups like the Muslim Council. In essence she argued that Muslims are individuals who can represent themselves, they don't need groups of thugs to barter on their behalf - bravo I say. We need moderates to come out and say things like this. The real shocker was a few weeks ago when whasserface, Galloway's friend from Respect, banged on about renationalising EVERYTHING in the UK, and like lemmings, the naff, wealthy, desperate-to-be-cool audience in Bath applauded....

But you are right in general about QT. The studio audience is sickeningly narcissistic in its liberal stance. You can have a white person say something really rational and maybe one or two hands clap, but then a member of one of the minorities comes out with something totally angry and irrational and the house is brought down by rapturous applause. (This is not to say that all white people in the audience are clever and all ethnics not clever, but the above example I have given occurs regularly).

The answer to this lies in the application form for QT. I suggest you have a look at it to see all the various bits of info you have to give about yourself. They obviously select the audience according to the profiles they build up on their database. Naturally of course it's in the interest of diversity.

Cecil

Carl - sponsored by Ostritches'R'Us.

MD

It is interesting that Peter Kimber makes his point in this particular context. Supremacism is a particularly nasty doctrine / mindset which strangles debate at birth. The approach allows Islamists to claim authority to deny the large-scale integrity of Jewish lineage (Jews living in Israel aren’t real Jews, they’re descended from X, Y and Z, while real Jews supposedly converted to Islam). They use the line in order to deny Jews' continuity of residence in and right to a state in the land of Israel. It’s an example of how the teaching and preaching of one religion can be defamatory to others.
It's also supremacism which encourages ducking and diving and obscures logic and fact. Why, otherwise, would Islamists give a platform to a bunch of equally irony-free Neturei Karta revisionist headcases (no problem with their lineage, obviously) to spout the sponsor’s line? You can't avoid the comparison with Goering who, in much the same context and with equal arrogance declared that he'd be the one to determine who is a Jew.
Here’s an idea for an awfully PC approach which might both offer some comfort to the silent majority and have the effect of separating the humanitarian sheep from the goats. It would be for Hi Hi Hazel to get religious leaders from across denominations to commit to a social contract outlawing the use of supremacist language and teaching on the basis that it defames religion. This would have the knock-on effect of focusing comparative debate on functional, cultural and factual points - the importance of family values, women's rights, the admissibility of armed struggle and refugees' rights, for instance.
While it may provide space for common ground to be established, it may also turn out that some houses have been built on firmer moral foundations than others.

An American

Why don't we all just do what the rest of the world does.

Ignore the UN.

One of the few things that I really liked about McCain's campaign promises was his promise to basically ignore the UN and form a coalition of democratic countries to deal with our problems.

We need a strong leader that withdraws the US from the UN. It would collapse without our monetary support. My guess is that 75% of Americans would back him...cheer him for that brave move.

Several days ago the UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon called the US 'deadbeats'...this is after we pay 20% of their operating budget at $5 billion US taxpayer dollars per year.

The US needs to kick the UN along with their two-bit dictators and Islamic extremists out...I don't care where these 'US haters' go...just leave our country, we could use the real estate.

Why should the US continue to support the UN? We have absolutely no say in anything that happens there...we're nothing but their despised kicking-boy and we pay big bucks for that priviledge.

The UN's 'dark side' has turned our good intentions and laws against us.

Dixon

Its got to get a lot worse...to the extent that everyone knows of someone persecuted, criminalised, imprisoned or killed by this leviathan...before it can be made better.

I am on the downslope of years and dont mind the prospect of becoming eventually a martyr to freedom. It would be a vindication of my lifes work in The Arts!

Bring on the fatwas! Long live Van Gogh. Long live Fortuyn. Long shall live all of us who follow in their footsteps. I might mention, you do have to do a lot more than post anonymously on internet blogs, doing so in public fora, in person, to qualify. The problem is that the opportunities keep diminishing as publishers, exhibitors, producers increasingly cower.

Winston Smith

Mr Melrose,

I don't read the Guardian and the Independent as I found that their continued pandering to the minorities, showing favouritism over the majority is where the problems lie with our government. The Guardian and the Independent are full of journalists who have written, through many articles on their favouritism of the destruction of the UK and every aspect of our society. They are the papers of NuLabour, full of the champagne socialists in favour of the many laws and legislations brought in by the government that have utterly ripped apart the foundations of our society. I did used to read the Guardian when I was younger(mid to late twenties) and when I found out they were a serious left wing/anti British paper I moved onto what was then a centrist paper(The Independent) only to find it was heading the same way, with the likes of Robert Fisk's obsession with Palestine and Yasmin Alibhai-Brown, a Ugandan refugee, welcomed into the UK with open arms only to write of her hatred for White men. I really hate to say it, but you'll find that it's the glitterati of the Left Wing papers who'll spend their evenings at soirées with the Nulabour Politicians and their supporters.

If you also re-read what I've written I stated :"....when Heath took Britain into the corrupt body that is the EU destroying British Industries.", I didn't mention that Heath destroyed the Industries, but by taking the UK in the EU the whole process brought the destruction of UK Industries. If you know your history, you'll know that what Heath promised the British people regarding Fishing(amongst other industries) was in fact a lie. The EU destroyed the Fishing Industry. Heath originally stated that Britain would have its 12 mile safe zone where no other EU ships could enter, but this drastically changed when they were allowed in. Worse still the EU set the rules, Britain honoured them but other countries didn't. Norway for example didn't allow any fishing boats in its waters. Also the ship size that was imposed was honoured by Britain, but other European countries didn't, meaning bigger fishing vessels raping the British fishing zones.
The entry into the EU was the worst thing Britain ever did. We were lied to by the government(no change there) and our society, broken, is what it is because of government. I certainly won't deny that Thatcher played her part in its destruction, but the axe started to chop away at the tree as such, when Heath took us into Europe. I think Thatcher's legacy in the UK will be the destruction of British coal mining. Now there's no doubt that there will be many who support her in her decisions, but the reality was that the shutting down of hundreds of coal mines utterly destroyed communities all over the country and in Wales. It also began the assassination by government of Britain's ability to sustain itself. Of course, we can also look at privatisation, selling off of our industries to Europe and the destruction of the Trade Unions as what Thatcher will also be known for. I also don't deny that the Trade Unions got fat and greedy and too powerful, but the concept of protection for workers disappeared with them. Government's allowed Trade Unions to get to powerful, but I believe this was part and parcel of their plan to destroy them.

A confidential document prepared for the Foreign Office was made public in 2001, thirty years after its publication(under the 30 year rule), warning Britain of the dangers of going into Europe and frighteningly it spoke of: substantial restraints on Britain's self-government, the public becoming increasingly alienated from the government as it became more bureaucratic and remote, with more decisions being made in Brussels and more public anxieties with loss of British sovereignties. This dossier also reported that these effects wouldn't become apparent until the end of the Century.

The warnings were there in 1971 of the gross error of ever going into Europe. The gross errors are also being spoken, right now, of what will happen in the UK(and the West) by the likes of Melanie Phillips and many others of the dangers of accepting Sharia law, Sharia finance and the Islamisation of the UK. There are many people talking but no one is listening and the shouts of 'racism' and 'Islamaphobia' are getting louder and louder as people are realising their country is under great threat with the exceptionally possible situation of future Islamisation. This article by Melanie, the Durban II summit and Islamic Nations dictating to us on Human Rights is the first step towards the loss of our liberties and freedoms. People are being warned, but who's listening?

wolf

Community Cohesion?
A Nation of Tribes!Well done!

Winston Smith

LOL@ those who watch Question Time.

I gave up on that show years ago. If you want to watch Politicians lie, yet again then watch Question Time. If you want to listen to some ex editor of a Tabloid whitter on about the usual left wing rubbish, then watch Question Time. If you want to look at an audience with an exceptionally biased minority ratio then watch Question Time. If you don't want to know why the UK is being destroyed on a daily basis by our politicians and liberal left then watch Question Time. It's without a doubt the most liberal left wing, minority bias, anti British programme out there and oddly enough on the Bolshevik Broadcasting Corporation!

I'd rather read the Internet to get an honest picture of politics in the UK and what's going on. You'll never ever find that on the BBC. That's a guarantee!

Alex Bensky

Yes, indeed, the resolution isn't intended to protect all religions from "defamation," just one. After all, many Muslim countries, and all the Arab Muslim countries, engage daily in the most vicious and false criticism of Judaism. Somehow if this resolution passes I don't think that will end.

wolf

I think Chrisopher Hitchens will be banned next from entering our ach so democratic land

tommy

These guys do not subscribe to the "Universal Declaration of Human Rights" and produced their own "islamic declaration of human rights" sometimes referred to as the "Cairo declaration of human rights"
which is quite explicit in its definitions

Article 24...All the rights and freedoms stipulated in this Declaration are subject to the Islamic Shari'ah.

Article 25...The Islamic Shari'ah is the only source of reference for the explanation or clarification to any of the articles of this Declaration.

Comparison of both UDHR and CDHR
here
http://tinyurl.com/5btmpe

wolf

I think Christopher Hitchens will be banned next from entering our ach so democratic land and the old DDR will become a nostralgic memory of "Paradise Lost"

wolf

I think Christopher Hitchens will be banned next from entering our ach so democratic land and the old DDR will become a nostralgic memory of "Paradise Lost"

Original Tony

Cecil 1:19pm...brilliant post! Could not have said it better!

Crawford

What angered me, but didn't surprise me, about QT last night was the way in which almost immediately the Muslim community became the victims!!

The verbally violent and sickening language of the Muslim protesters was almost side stepped.

As for the request to call them "protesters" and not "Muslim protesters", well what was that about? It was crystal clear that's what they were!

We need to wake up and wake up quickly!

gary

I agree with Nannette. We need a United DEMOCRATIC Nations. Something like this...

http://www.UnitedDemocraticNations.org

gary

logdon

Irony of ironies. QT was arguing the semantics of free speech. At first it was fine for the bearded ones with their attendant black clad houris in a segregated bunch behind them to hurl abuse at returning Poachers. Hoisted by their own petards of whether returning troops should be grossly insulted in such a manner after serving Queen and Country they then wriggled. So, like a surreal comedy the wave of blame was neatly shifted onto the easier target of politicians. Funny but no mention of free speech for Walter Wolfgang, Brian Hoar or even Geert Wilders. The conclusion can be reached that, as far as open expression is concerned, if you're Muslim come into the parlour, if not you are a nasty white nutter or racist. Hence the irony of this UN censorious move with our 'free speech' liberal elites voting just like turkeys for Christmas.

Bill Corr

Woody mentions the supine and contemptible behaviour of the Luton police, ignoring the very obvious fact that every police officer is grimly aware that one non-PC error of judgement in a "sensitive" situation spells career death or something very close to it.

Raymond Joseph Douglas tells us that Malmostan will soon have a Muslim majority. True but the sapheaded Swedes have nobody but their own silly selves to blame; as trusting, gutless, gullible Eloi they chose to invite the savage Morlocks to live with them in clean and civilised Sweden and can now repent the folly of the Swedish political class at leisure. The Kurdish heroin dealers and Somali rapists have found Sweden a most hospitable haven and the gates are still wide open.

Rather more to the point, for those of us thinking about our children and grandchildren, is that current demographic extrapolations indicate that immense resource-rich Russia will have a Muslim majority by 2050 unless Putin and his successors can figure out a way to increase the non-Muslim birthrate.

Think about it.

logdon

"Crawford
March 13th, 2009 3:44pm
As for the request to call them "protesters" and not "Muslim protesters", well what was that about? It was crystal clear that's what they were!"

The whole point of their protest was Islam. Nothing else. That was the central raison detre of the revolting spectacle. Their aim is a shariah compliant Britain. Therefore removing that central plank made the whole thing meaningless. However that core premise was lost on the idiots on the panel and audience who attempted to conflate legitimate dissent with a mob of ingrate Muslim immigrants intent on the destruction of our country. Disneyfying these people by removal of the central tenet of their objective of conquering us is ridiculous but par for course for the multiculturalist rose tinted spectacle bunch. El Beeb has form time and time again for this and it's been going on since 9/11. Try listening to Radio Four. A strange schizophrenic mix of the token quintessential Britishness of The Archers, Gardeners Question Time with the rest of it's output which could be straight from the transmission masts of Al Jazeera. As a soothing balm try http://www.biased-bbc.blogspot.com/ where QT even has it's own special section!

Jan

Crawford - you're absolutely right and I missed that point in the rest of the holier-than-thou liberalism going on during QT. Suddenly the Muslim protesters, with their hate-filled slogans and their anti-British virulence, were the victims! And the brave troops who went to fight (whether the war is something they personally agreed with or not) were the bad 'uns. This kind of inversion is the hallmark of the Islamic hearts-and-minds campaign, and as we are all asleep, we do not realise how it works. How it works is this: the virtues of which we are proud (freedom of speech, desire for inclusiveness, etc) are seen as weakness and used against us. Crafty but effective.

Oliwagino Alefava Yihiri

The other day I had a bad hair day so I wore a head scarf, the lefties in my community was nice to me, everywhere i go in the gym, the shop etc, they smile and treat me like a muslim queen, believe me they never look at me before because I look like a normal ethnic minority western christian person, but my "bandanna" or the hair scarf made a difference, maybe next time I will wear a burka how exotic, I know i will get an attention from the left wing liberals, when people mention that they watch about QT, the first thing come in my mind was the naive leftwing liberals, their mentality is different, they like anything muslim and eastern
but when Sharia Law comes in to Britain i don't know what they are going to do?

Probably run away...

Bailey

Linda Smith:

The OIC (Organization of The Islamic Conference) is made up of 57 Islamic nations and they are voting together as a block which has made them very powerful...at least at the UN.

I am not sure how they came to dominate the UN Human Rights Council by I suspect they paid off the right people.

I agree that we should just ignore the UN...however, our political and media elite most likely will not. They are still in love with the 'idea' of the UN, however, it does not work any better than the League of Nations did in the last century.

One thing I know for sure...DO NOT expect the government aka politicians to protect you in any shape or form. They have abrogated that duty on both sides of the Atlantic.

It is you...the John and Jane Doe's of the world who will make the difference. You can't wait for somebody to come along and do it for you. You have to do it.

I am not advocating violence, but I am advocating annoying the hell out of them. Send emails...make phone calls...park yourselves on doorsteps...march...get organized or join an organization.

If you do nothing...they take it as approval of their rule.

One thing is crucial...you have to keep yourself informed. If you depend on staying informed by watching television...you will never get the whole picture...you may not even get A picture. They have an adgenda and if stories do not fall in line with that agenda...you will not be informed OR you will get a twisted version of the truth.

Suffolkbor

I commented on one of the threads here some weeks ago about Question Time and said that I believe it should be renamed "Waste Of Time ".

If the panel were to be set up to consist of a wax dummy for the host and half a dozen effigies as panellists whom are applauded when spouting left/liberal claptrap by a pre-recorded machine then no one would honestly know the difference .
The only other change to the overall format would be for the camera to pan to where the audience should be but instead has been replaced by two static panoramas of people in two basic postures ;
1. In rapturous applause following left/liberal glib soundbite .
2.In grim disapproval with arms crossed against chests at any comment that is not a left/liberal glib comment.

Watching Question Time is as about as satisfying and enlightening with regards to the serious issues of today as taking lifetime membership of a society whose sole function is to determine whether the Pope is a Catholic.

An American

Bailey,

I agree with everything you say.

If we love this country, we cannot just stand by and wring our hands...we have to get active politically. I'm in the process of looking into different avenues to help stop Obama's far-left's destruction of America.

Have you heard of Glenn Beck's 912 Project...which is asking people to come together to fight for America.

So many people are logging onto The912Project.com that I've haven't been able to access it, but will continue trying.

I'm also sending dozens of tea bags with messages to the White House on April 1st.

Everyone....Send your teabags and messages to:
The White House, 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., Washington, DC 20500.

I'm also waiting for a Tea Party in my area to go to to protest.

Also, I hear that there are now Conservative house meetings with like-minded people to try to have an impact. I might try one of those myselfI've sent emails to Republican Congress people and the Democrats from my state, but feel like I am wasting my time on that end...They could care less what American citizens want, they are just going ahead with this madness.

I do plan on monetarily supporting Conservative Republicans that have been true to the cause...but there are very few of them.

Most Republican politicians just don't get it as they continue to belly up to the hog trough to spend and waste money we don't have.

I've also signed protests against abortion, for coal, etc.

Everyone...any other ideas or organizations I can look into...would like to hear about them.

I'm tired of venting...I want to take action before its too late.

An American

Dixon,

You're probably right...it has to get worse before anything can be done to destroy the UN. I can't imagine what it could be but I'm sure the 'people' at the UN can come up with some handy reasons.

It was a bleeding-heart liberal American that started the UN (sorry, can't think of his name)...that's why we have all those despots on our shores. And it should be up to the US to dismantle the UN.

david skinner

Suffolkbor, beautifully put. I must hang my head and confess in shame that I was tenpted to speek three times on Any Answers. Both Any Questions and Question Time have become a total irrelevance.

david skinner

Whilst we seem to be concentrating on Islam's attempt to silence all dissent, are people aware that even as I type the government is pushing through Clause 58 of the Coroners and Justice Bill that will silence all dissent towards homosexuality? As soon as this is up and running, the Muslim Council of Britain, in the name of Equality will also claim the right to revisit the equivalent incitement to hatred bill that they were denied in Jan 2006. Meanwhile Britain sleeps, goes on Caribbean cruises or just whistles a little tune

Linda Smith

Picking up on a previous thread "We are all Hezbollah now in the FCO", the Jerusalem Post today posted:
"Today the United States comes and says to us: You are terrorists and we are willing to forgive you for what has been, under the condition that you recognize Israel," French news agency AFP quoted Nasrallah as saying. "
"Nasrallah stressed that the Lebanese people are "capable of defeating this entity (Israel) and can make it disappear," and therefore, Hizbullah will not recognize Israel "not today, not tomorrow, not even in 1,000 years."
What the hell is the British goverment doing talking to Hezbollah?

Susan Hill

Yesterday I met 4 extremely nice sane women - white, middle-class, midde-England, educated, Christian (or at least nominally) and all late middle-aged. They were members and indeed regional officers of the WI, that great British institution which has long been more than jam and jerusalem - in the past it has campaigned for some sensible things. These women had all been to meet with some Muslim women. Their motives were 'peace and mutual understanding.' They came away brainwashed by these people into changing their minds about all sorts of things from British soldiers to the Christian church and they had clearly been fed one long propaganda talk about how Muslims should have their own huma rights and freedoms and laws in the UK, how they were treated badly, everyone they met was racist de blah.de blah. 'We really must understand these people better and give them more rights,' was the message I got. And there is more. The WI has in the last few years been targeted for infiltration by left-wing, pro-,Muslim activitists and agitators, all under 30, all with one agenda - they have joined ostensibly 'out of interest and to meet people' - but the average WI meeting is on no interest to them. They are there simply to promote the militant Islamist point of view and to brainwash well-meaning citizens. (Eco-fascists have infiltrated and indeed now dominate the WI in a similar way.)
Forty years ago when I lived in parts of the W Midlands and remarked that the increase in immigrant Pakistani and other Muslims would bring trouble I was abused as an Enoch-Powell racist and told to join the BNP where I belonged. A lot of good, kindly, gentle, generous, tolerant English neighbours genuinely believed that these Muslims would arrive, settle and become fully integrated within a generation, by which they means become absorbed into our culture, take on our values and out laws and practise their religion peacefully alongside those of us who follow our own. How wrong they were and how badly they have been betrayed. It all happened as Powell foresaw, To refresh people`s memories, he did not say he WANTED there to be 'rivers of blood in the streets,' he simply anticipated that this would happen. It was extreme language. But what were the July bombings if not 'blood in the streets.'
And this latest pressure on the UN was also entirely predictable and consistent with the Islamist agenda.
It is now, I am afraid, far far too late to do anything about it. They have won and they will dominate the world within a couple of generations, aided and abetted by all Western governments who have cow-towed and given in to them in the name of racial equality, tolerance and multiculturalism for too long. There is nothing tolerant, egalitarian or multi-cultural about Islam.

Augustus

Susan Hill - Good post. and now you can seen what people like Geert Wilders are up against.
Funny how only those who criticise Muslims publicly are the ones who need 24 hour protection.

Past Time

I have just been reading of Sir Laurens van der Post's time in a Japanese POW camp and I think you should all ponder what he says, and then be prepared to do what must be done:

"It has been a strange war but only people, who have seen what the Japanese are really like as conquerors, can appreciate what the world has been saved from and what a good war it has been."

Margaret Muller-Johansson

Susan Hill, I agree with you, the majority muslim supporters in Britian today are those from white educated middle class leftie background, they think the Islamic extremists are going to IMPROVE and INTEGRATE, they will not integrate because they think the western culture and value is horrible, I think the muslims are all the same it doesn't matter wich colour of skin they have or where they live in the world they just don't like us, the leftie educated sleep walking people in Britain think we should be nice to the muslim immigrants and all that, Why?
Why we have to be nice to a people who want to kill us all?

Lizzy

So true, Oliwagino Alefava Yihiri, Susan Hill and Margaret Muller-Johansson. The multi-cultural ideology wins over all common sense.

The left in the UK and Europe, along with the Obama administration in the US have only shown Islam how weak they are.

Bob Smith

Look at what has become of mult-cultural Lebanon.

Good luck GB.

Terry

UN = United Nazis

Dissolve it. Or suffer a new Dark Age

Shiva

My comment on this thread was not published, I wonder why.. is it because I speak for Hindus suffering under Jehadi atrocities. Regardless of whether u publish this or not, I once again say that Melanie ps do not single out Israel alone as a victim of Jehad... The Hindus of India are too on this list..

Michael Paul

9-11 has triggered a Stockholm Syndrome in the West, particularly amongst the so called liberal left who's whole ethos is built on cringe anyway. If there's to be an antidote, then a basic and universal awareness of this peculiar condition is neccessary.

Penny

Shiva - I commented on your post. Or is there another that might be missing?

Either way - I agree: we should hear much more about the situation in India.

gary

People...it's easy to criticize. It's much harder to propose a solution to this problem. Here's mine...

www.UnitedDemocraticNations.org

Any takers?

gary

Shiva

Penny, the situation in India today is that Hindus are bound and gagged (both by Jehadi threats as well as hate law legislation which could see u behind bars should u even think of commenting on these kind of issues in India. But Jehadis make all kinds of threats against Hindus all the time and no one in India dare even raise an eyebrow in response.. extremely one-sided). Where do Hindus go from here?? What does the future hold for them in their one and only homeland in this world (just like Israel is the one and only home for the Jews in this world). The way things are going there, I predict that India will be on the road to irreversible Islamization by the end of this century.