Intermission

Paul from Amsterdam

Thank you Melanie,
Same 2 you.

Lynn

Hag Sameach!

Merlyn

Thanks for all your posts.

Frank P

That was Quick, Melanie.

Peter North

Slacker. Real bloggers never quit. ;)

phil

Hag Sameach to Mel and everyone else

Original Tony

Thanks for keeping my brain alive Mel, happy Easter and Shalom to Israel

Kayson

God bless you Mel. You need a break!

Pickwick

Missing you already.
Happy Easter and Passover.

Murad

Thank you Melanie for making us aware of those subtle things that occur every single day and have a profound intact on our future, destiny and the future of our children and this nation, and indeed the world. Only yesterday it was declared that 12 Terrorists have been detained because they were training in militia camps set up on British soil receiving British welfare money and preparing to fight the British to take over. Is this tolerance or stupidity? How come in a "democracy" if elected politicians surrender the country to the enemy they are not tried for treason? Anywhere else they are. Even in Britain 60 years ago they were.

logdon

The best blog on the web. Respected (by the sane). Knowledgable (by any account).
Truthful (in the face of enormous mendacity).
And best of all a thorn in the side of the shariah seeking islamists of Britain who together with this Quisling government had an easy run. Not any more due to the valiant efforts of Melanie and her peers who, despite all the taqiya ridden lies of her opponents fight the fight without fear or favour or threat of the violence increasingly in common useage by her detractors. Here's the latest from Obama's new buddies in the Middle East. Maybe he'd bow to this also?

http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.2958/pub_detail.asp

April 9, 2009
Video: A Kuwaiti Professor’s Call to Jihad Against America

The Editors

“’Terrorists’ are the world’s most God-fearing people. They are the most honorable people in the world; the best people in the world.”

“So whoever talks about dialogue – cut off his tongue!”

“Anyone who contradicts the Koran is an infidel.”

Onetrouser

Happy Easter to all and have a great break. That's important enough to turn of your computers... for one day. :)

Leslie

Happy Passover,and Happy Easter to everyone.

Pip

You deserve a break (but missing you already lol)

Best wishes Melanie

Margaret Muller-Johansson

God Bless you Melanie,
Have a peaceful Passover
Shalom

Susan Hill

Happy Passover and Happy Easter Melanie... the two are very close. Jesus celebrated Passover. People forget

phil

Hag Sameach to Mel and everyone else -it means happy holiday and includes all those celebrating Easter too of course .

Adam B.

Have a Happy Pesach to all Jewish readers of good will, and a Happy Easter to all Christians of good will.

Suffolkbor

Here we are and Easters here
And I was hoping for some sun ,
but cloud and drizzle are forecast ,
so I,ll have an extra hot cross bun !

As we say in Suffolk;
Cheers Bor!

Gautam

Happy Easter and Happy Passover to you, Melanie. And to all those who adore Melanie. May your tribe increase!

ben

Happy Passover and Happy Easter to you all. And thank you, Melanie.

hadrian

Susan Hill- How right you are! Are we not, indeed, told that 'Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us.'?!
Psalm 122v6-9.
Blessings to All.

JW

Melanie you're an antidote to group-think, a la the Obama worshipers. You're keen insight is like that of a lonely prophet who speaks the truth in the face of a US & UK foreign policy based on delusional thinking. Thanks for generously sharing your brilliant columns. Happy Passover.

Crawford

Amen, Hadrian. What a wonderful truth about Christ. May eveyone embrace it!

And may Psalm 122:6-9 be in our hearts.

Thank you for standing against the tide Melanie. More power to you when you return.

Easter Blessings to all!

Bob.India

Hi Mel. Looking forward to your return with all guns blazing. Have a good holiday.

Marian C

Mel, Happy Passover and a Happy Easter to you and your family and to all the readers/writers on this site

Augustus

Thank you Melanie, and a peaceful Pesach to you and all Jewish readers.

Happy Easter also to all Christians. May the hope in the empty tomb that Mary found on that first Easter morning sustain our mortal life in His presence. For life is a gift that we may enjoy in this world and the next.

Derek BLADES

Ms Phillips.

Your latest attack on President Obama and his community work with fellow Afro-Americans coupled with your apparent approval of Israeli Foreign Minister Lieberman shows how far you have lost it. Surely now is a good time to call it a day. Please think about extending your intermission indefinitely.

I nevertheless thank you for your kind wishes for a Happy Easter. I reciprocate and suggest that we all contemplate the terrible things that were done on these days 2009 years ago and which mark the origin of the Christian faith. May we resolve to banish all religious nonsense - Christian or otherwise - from political life even if some are too feeble-minded to banish it from their personal lives.

chris hartnett

Thank you Melanie for keeping the flame burning in these strange and dangerous days. Our faith will ensure a victory-there are a lot of people of goodwill out here who love and respect your continued integrity.Thank God for the best and the bravest commentators across the media who still can speak truth to power-and you`re in the vanguard Melanie!Enjoy your break.

phil

the disgusting BLADE has defecated on our thread of peace and goodwill-I pray that he will take his own advice and push off forever .,but I am sure Mel has enough sense to ignore an ignoramus like him .

Adam B.

Derek "I get paid by the Chinese communist dictatorship" Blades can't help himself - remember when he made some inappropriate and hateful comments on the thread marking the tragic death of David Cameron's son? Here, everyone wishes each other happy holidays - and he attacks religion and Israel.

What a sensitive soul.

W. B. Harris

The Truth shall set you free!

Thanks Mel for standing against the winds of adversity and being the lighthouse in a darkening world.

Easter and Passover are one of the cornerstones to life and definitely a very solemn time each year to remind us who we are and what GOD has done for us.

It is the same GOD whom we need to keep praying for wisdom and HIS guidance during these troublesome times.

How great is GOD, HE holds the future and will honor those who will honor HIM and seek HIS Grace.

Thank you Mel for all your concerns, your willingness to be the “Town Crier’ for us, by being our lighthouse.

With love Mel – wishing you a marvelous, refreshing and a renewing of your spirit during Passover.

jose garcia

i found this short documental about persecute Christiansin Iraq.

tens of thousands have been displaced in a few months, 15 killed by their own iraqi muslims in 2 months.

where are all the anti war and anti refugee protesters?

Mosul has been "purified "of Christians, how many more in the name of the religion of "peace"

http://www.opendoorsuk.org/donate/march.asp

Ros

jose garcia: Haven't you learned yet? No one but no one is interested in any other peoples but the 'Palestinians'. It's no big deal how many Christians are 'purified' worldwide. They just don't, tragically, fit into the mindset of moral blindness that afflicts our so-called 'caring' leaders.

Adaminejhad is on his way to Durban II, no doubt accompanied by the UK, the EU and Obama whose administration has given credence to Iran, so that whatever comes out of Adaminejhad's mouth will be ignored or spun. 'Forgive him, he knows not what he says...'

Chag sameach.

Derek BLADES

jose garcia (Thank you for using your name and not a silly pseudonym.) asks "Mosul has been "purified "of Christians, how many more in the name of the religion of "peace"?"

Sorry Jose, I can't answer that but you mentioned that 15 have been killed so far and my guess is you can expect a few more deaths over the coming year or so. Nasty I agree but you should remember that born-again Christian Bush was directly responsible for the deaths of thousands of Iraqi Moslems.

All religions are equally inimical to the good conduct of world affairs. What does it take to prove the obvious?

Linda Smith

This thread began with expressions of goodwill to all. Over the following days sectarian comments seeped in, followed by surreptitious attacks, until the thread had morphed into the habitual war zone.

Derek Blades posted "All religions are equally inimical to the good conduct of world affairs." He doesn't say what constitutes the "good" in his opinion. He doesn't say how he will persuade believers to give up their beliefs which underpin their politics - by force perhaps?

These threads illustrate the illusion of attaining peace in the world. Here we go again. Plus ca change! Hi ho! hi ho! it's off to war we go!.....

Adam B.

Sure Derek Blades - Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Amin, all motivated by religion.

An American

Melanie,

Thank you for your insightful take on what's happening worldwide. You tell it like it is. I especially appreciate you taking the time to write about the US and its politics.

Happy Passover to you and yours.

Happy Easter to all my Christians friends who blog here. Please pray for America during this trying time.

Alan

Hag Sameah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Derek BLADES

Linda Smith asks me what, in my opinion, constitutes "good conduct of world affairs". I would say that the secular governments of most of the EU Member States, Canada, the US (under Obama), South Korea, Japan, Turkey, Vietnam, Australia, New Zealand, Venezuela, Botswana, Argentina and Chile (the list is not exhaustive) have all shown restraint and good judgment in their exercise of foreign policy. Different in details but good overall. What they have in common is that none are enslaved by primitive superstition.

An American

D BLADES,

Give it a rest...this blog is about people giving Melanie and fellow bloggers kind wishes for Passover and Easter.

You are the kind of lowbrow that would get up at a Christian or Jewish funeral and give an anti-God speech while throwing in a few critical barbs about the deceased...

I shudder to think what the world would be like with people like you in power...but, please believe me when I say...it won't happen.

hadrian

Derek Blades-
I take it you believe in an ultimately impersonal universe in which personal existence has no meaning, purpose or value. That so one finds your moral outrage utterly inexplicable.
That aside, don't you think it a shade disingenuous to suggest 'religion should kep out of politics'? Secular Humanism is as much an article of faith as any theistic world view and has caused as bloodshed and slaughter and hopelessness throughout the globe.Your idea is simplistic but blatantly biased.Think a bit more deeply, man, or you will be ruined in the end.

hadrian

Furthermore, Derek,
For your information I do not recall George Bush Jr, whatever you may think of him, actually killing 'thousands of Iraqi Moslems'. They were doing it perfectly well amongst themselves along with that old SECULARIST cynic, Saddam.
Bush, arguably, may have got his response to Sep 11th wrong and I for one as a Calvinist Christian opposed the whole thing from the start, but it is entirely unfair to blame Bush's religion ( which is dubious anyway) on his actions there.

shockwaver

melanie
i am a frequent reader but infrequent commenter at your site. thanks for your clear thinking articles, especially those dealing with U.S. politics. Sometimes those at a distance can see the whole picture better than those close by.
don't stop. we need you.
happy Passover.

Linda Smith

Dear Ms Phillips
I have occasionally wondered if you read the comments posted on your blog. In case you do, I would like to thank you for standing out as a beacon of good sense in a sea of cant and hypocrisy.
With best wishes
Linda Smith

Linda Smith

Derek Blades: restraint can be construed as weakness by one's enemies.

Jenny

Derek Blades reminds us all to give thanks this Easter that we do not live societies shaped by people such as Stalin and Mao that tried to eradicate God with scientific atheism such as the USSR and China - those two societies show us just where Dawkins & Co would lead us.

And let us be grateful we are not living in Egypt on a day like today when Christians must mute their celebrations for fear of Muslim persecution that our Wester mainstream media refuses to report.

People died to give us the freedoms we are so privileged to enjoy. Let's celebrate that and not let Blades hand us over on a platter to the enemy.

beowulf

Hey Mel, hope you enjoy your vacation. When you get back, check this guy out.
http://ajewwithaview.wordpress.com/
Very interesting post about Tescos.
To everybody else here, enjoy a well earned rest, I'm a born again Pagan (incidentally the Roman word for heathen), but you do what you like, each to his own, no problem.

An Stern

Derek Blades' criticisms of Ms Phillips are quite out of order for at least three reasons as far as I can see.

Firstly, it has never been a crime to know, as Melanie does, that you are unassailably right, all of the time.

Secondly, there is no law which prevents a commentator from regarding those who don't believe in her with the deepest contempt.

And thirdly, no statute exists to ban a columnist, however humourless, from zealously and relentlessly espousing her personal manifesto of moral purity. It may make you worry, but it is not against the law.

This is a free country Mr Blades, I suggest that you back off.

phil

derek blades has been left in no doubt of the deep disgust we posters feel for him-I admit that I despise his thoughts on most things but I would have thought on a thread dedicated to sending good wishes for Easter and Passover he would have kept his detritus to himself -perhaps in future he will feel surplus to requirements and not demean us all by his presence again .

Pip

"Have you seen this? It is the fascist blueprint to create a police state and legalize gulags. This is not a spoof. This is Obama's "civilian army's" MOB."

http://www.rogerhedgecock.com/resources/HSA%20-%20Rightwing%20Extremism%20-%20Climate%20Fueling%20Radicalization%20and%20Recruitment,dated%207%20April%202009.pdf

Unfreakin unbelievable, the Obamanoid fascist misfit is about to use this 'tool' to destroy your freedoms using the above as tool to do so, drip drip effect, wake up, please.

source: http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/04/obamas-real-terrorists-targeting-patriots-and-the-right.html#comments

Hurry up back Mel :-(

canuck

Blessed Easter & Passover to you and your readers.

stanley Jerusalem

Phil - I would sooner engage Blades rather like keeping a Traffic Warden chatting and thus preventing them from penalising motorists and I consider it a privilege to engage the likes of the obnoxious Blades, Carl, George and Silicon Nitride on the grounds that while they engage with the likes of we who can take care of ourselves, they are prevented from pouring their bile into the ears of others who may not have our level of defence against their insidious cant, hypocrisy and racism.
To all the other and nice posters and of course to our Eminence Grise respectively, a Happy Easter and a Chag Same'ach.
May your matzot never go soggy.

journeyman

My thanks to Warrior Journalist--Melanie Phillips for all your good works.I am in debt to you.
When the tide turns against the "self-flagellating cultural suicide of left-liberalism and denial " and the sanity of self-preservation rules again,we should all get together for one great wopping booze-up.
Happy holidays..journeyman

phil

stanley Jerusalem :)I avoid the matzoh .it causes the stuff in the recipe I gave the man from the 1800,s who calls himself hazlitt.hope he enjoyed the lunch and holiday destination -hope also everyone had a good holiday ,and now back to the grind .

Andre

Susan Hill - well said - we, Christians and Jews should never forget our common origins. I am increasingly moved by Mel's blogs and concerned over the future of the free world. Have started calling myself a judeo-christian - it sounds better than zio-catholic. Happy passover and happy easter

Alissa

Happy Easter and Passover to you, Melanie. Thank you for all your great articles.

Carl

Andre - I call myself a Jedi. It doesn't mean that I really can be one.

stanley Jerusalem

Andre
April 14th, 2009 11:25am
"Have started calling myself a judeo-christian"
Beware of all-embracing nomenclature. You set out to please, and finish up pleasing no-one.
If your mum's 100% Jewish, then you are too. If you wish to be catholic, Like Pope Gregory of calendar fame or the last Cardi nal Archbishop of Paris, then, fine, you are Catholic, but you are still Jewish. The French geezer actually asked for someone to say Kaddish at his funeral.
[Wikepedia or Google will assist].

hadrian

Stanley-
It depends what you mean by 'Jewish'. My reading of the O.T. is that it was primarily a matter of COVENANT rather than bloodline. Of course that is the religious aspect of it. The racial one means you must have some Jewish blood in your background. However it is actually a highly dubious concept that ANYONE can have a 'PURE' racial pedigree. I, for instance, can claim some Celtic blood but Anglo-Saxon as well and heaven knows what else is lurking in the genealogy! And we're all Adam's children in the last analysis! 'Race' is a concept I dislike, it's too elusive. We're all of the human race, that alone is indisputable.

Mike

Hopefully Melanie is giving consideration to a suggestion that the Muslim world's apparent grievances, are not necessarily because of their religious and cultural differences with the 'West', but because of the real issues of intervention and occupation.

logdon

Some good news on your return, Melanie. This just in from Harry's Place....

Jeremy Bowen guilty of breaking guidelines on inaccuracy and impartiality

Your View, April 15th 2009, 10:58 am

This is a guest post by Chas Newkey Burden

Breaking news: The BBC’s Middle East editor Jeremy Bowen has been found guilty by the BBC Trust’s Editorial Standards Committee (ESC) of breaking BBC guidelines on accuracy and impartiality in his coverage of Israel. (This is the news I mentioned that was due to break tomorrow morning. The announcement has been brought forward.)

This has been a long time coming. Time and time again Bowen has distorted and twisted his coverage of the Middle East. To list all the examples would be a mammoth undertaking......

http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/04/15/jeremy-bowen-found-guilty-of-inaccuracy-and-impartiality/

BBCpdf here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/assets/files/pdf/appeals/esc_bulletins/2009/mar.txt

Wm. Hazlitt

logdon,

The complaints against Mr. Bowen read like examples of blind bias. The BBC feels that Mr. Bowen should have included some such in his article and report to demonstrate balance (between the truth on one hand and blind bias on the other?). What Mr. Bowen wrote was in essentials accurate, as a cursory read of the literature will show.

Janine

Jeremy Bonehead is a total disgrace.

Carl

Wm. Hazlitt - the apologists hate the BBC, they hate all media that tells the truth about continued Israeli aggression and brutality against Palestinians. They are reduced to the state that they will argue whether it was 110 or 111 Palestinian children killed in the latest act of aggression and claim, because it is well nigh impossible to get an accurate number that it was actually none. (Numbers used for example only). However, when it comes to largely ineffectual rockets being fired at Israel, they will happily claim that there are thousands.

logdon

@Wm. Hazlitt
April 15th, 2009 3:59pm

I don't need to read the fine detail of the literature, I watch the biased buffoon Bowen on BBC news. Read Harry's Place for his many deceptive transgressions.

logdon

Hazlitt

I am not alone.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1170239/BBC-rebukes-Middle-East-correspondent-Jeremy-Bowen-anti-Israel-comments.html

Worried

Bowen is a liar. And he is the only person I have ever accused of being so in a public forum, because I know it to be the truth mainly from his body language that reminds one of a car salesman who informs you that the lemon you're about to buy was formerly owned by a little old lady and had never been over 30mph. In view of the effect his nasty dishonest persona has on the incredibly easily swayed British left or 'chattering classes', he needs to be exposed and disposed before his broadcasts generate more terrorists and therefore, innocent victims - on all sides. Thanks to this report from the thankfully becoming enlightened BBC, his Waterloo may be on on the horizon. Baby steps, baby steps!

No comfort making such a remark about a sentient being, but the lies have to stop NOW, before the bad guys get nukes and use his verbage as an excuse to put the nail in the coffin of Western freedom by taking out a major city and disrupting our economy and therefore the stability of nations.

Wm. Hazlitt

Worried

You "know" Mr. Bowen to be a liar because you feel his body language reminds you of a car salesman?

You say he "generates" terrorists by his broadcasts. You mean every time he broadcasts, a terrorist (many terrorists?) springs fully formed from...his head,or...? Picture the scene to yourself somewhere in Gaza ("Mr. Jeremy Bowen of the BBC says the Israelis are bombing us." "We are being bombed? It's the Israelis who are bombing us? If only I had known this sooner. Without Mr. Jeremy Bowen of the BBC I would not have known(mistakenly believed)that I had cause to take up arms.")

You say the "bad guys" when they get nuclear weapons will use his words as an excuse to destroy a city and disrupt our economy - try to picture the scene to yourself, with the "bad guys" in counsel ("We want to destroy a city and disrupt an economy, but we have no pretext." "Ah, but Mr. Jeremy Bowen has posted another interesting report from Gaza." "Mr. Jeremy who?")

Go and read the Editorial Standards Committee's report.

You clearly have your worries. But I do not think Mr. Jeremy Bowen need be one of them.

Archie

A very belated Happy Passover and Easter to all! ( I hope this doesn't meet you on the way back, Melanie!)

Worried

@Wm. Hazlitt. You don't get my point. Or you do, but are being pedantic. :) The issue is that here in the UK (not sure where you recide) terrorists who have actually detonated or tried to detonate bombs in this country (and elsewhere) have claimed they have done so based on what they have been upset by on television. Now Israel is bombing in order to defend itself, so I don't care a monkeys if THAT offends anyone. But what is unacceptable is this mans general bias that makes the Israelies out to be the bad guys, simply because they have a more advanced capability and he (despite being a 'reporter') doesn't agree with the politics either. In fact, contemporary Israel fights wars with a way more ethical methodology than we (US, UK), where we simply saturation bomb the Taliban. But as pointed out on this forum many times in the past, why are there no people like Bowen over there? I tell you why, because Bowen and his ilk have an agenda, and that is to discredit any entity that threatens their socialist ideals, which happen to have a nice similarity with Islam - which is, through several modifications to the UN charter quietly slipped in over the last few months and British 'human rights' law, slowly undoing our democracy here too. (Unlike the industrious Jews who create opportunity, employment and hope. But of course, people like that who blend self depreciating humor, intelligence and trust are either envied or misunderstood, so forced into a corner, and when they fight back, people complain.) I believe it's called a lose lose situation. Never again.

It's the British way to put down the successful, the honest, the brilliant. It's why all our good people emigrate, and we're left with the tosh who roam the malls or monitor CCTV cameras while the ship sinks. And it is sinking.

Worried

(And a belated Happy Passover Melanie!)

joe g

Hope a Happy Passover and Easter was enjoyed by all.I was pleased to hear that Bowen's biased reporting has finally been held up for scrutiny. The middle east is a terribly sad area but both sides of the story need to be told. Israel's dilemna is that it can never win as it is a democracy that holds state powers and is responsible for it's actions on the world stage. Palestinian's live under fractioned terrorist parties pretending to rule by will of the people but should their terrorists act against Israel they say'not us guv, can't stop them, they act independently from us, they have their greivances with Israel'. What is a terrorist other than someone who knows their opinions are not accepted by the majority of society at large or on the world stage so they will inflict these on us by violence for disagreeing with them.Biased reporting paints an unbalanced picture of what is really happening and only frustates a genuine outcome ever happening. It only creates a self fulfilling victim culture and more hatred and ignorance.Hope you had a peaceful break Melanie.

Luton Fever

Judeo-Christian???

That's an oxymoron.

Either you are a Christian or a Jew.

Either you believe in Jesus and accept him as your savior (Christians) or you believe him to be a heretic and false messiah (Jews).

No other two religions contradict each other as much as Christianity and Judaism.

A beginner's course on theology will do you some good Andre.

Wm. Hazlitt

Worried

Go and read Mr. Bowen's article and a transcript of his report. What he says is in essentials accurate and in no way merits the censure of the BBC Trust.

I think you will find that the criminals who set off bombs in this country are motivated not by Mr. Bowen's reporting, however accurate, but by the slaughter of their co-religionists, men, women, and children - a false motivation for evil acts, I grant you, but nevertheless an understandable one (or at least more probable than a reaction to Mr. Bowen's reporting).

On a point of fact, Israel is not bombing only to defend itself.

I well believe you do not "give a monkey's".

If you wish to make claims for the ethical purity of the IDF, read the archives of B'tselem before you presume to do so.

The fact that the UK and US commit crimes does not excuse Israel - remember it is the "ethical" one.

There are few reports of the crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan because we in this country have well-behaved media - which is to the benefit of Israel, as any unbiassed review of the coverage will confirm. The fact that Israel's action in Gaza is indefensible cannot be laid at the door of those reporting it.

It is curious, at best, to equate socialism with Islam.

Your guess at Mr. Bowen's politics is based on no evidence that I can see, and is beside the point.

Neither Mr. Bowen, nor socialists (a dying breed, but nevertheless democrats), nor Muslims generally are doing anything to undermine our democracy.

You appear to be addicted to generalisations. I certainly know many people who are trusting, intelligent, and humourous. Many of them happen to be of the Jewish faith. Your point is what?

All the good people have left the UK, have they? and we are left...oh, dear.

You certainly appear to have your worries, but so far none that you have expressed are well-founded.

phil

Worried should we take hazlitts view or that of the BBC trust who wrote a comprehensive judgement on bowen .hazlitt is no Edward Marshall Hall and does bowen no favours with his nonsense .

stanley Jerusalem

Pedantry may well be the last refuge of a hypocrite. he strains at gnats but simultaneously may be found swallowing camels.
Also sprach Zarahazlitt.

Carl

I trust that Jeremy Bowen will be allowed to continue with his open and honest reporting. The fact that people try to have him silenced speaks volumes.

Wm. Hazlitt

Stanley Jerusalem

What is the pedantry and what the hypocrisy, what the gnats and what the camels? And what has Nietsche to do with anything? Your resounding phrases all sound terribly impressive, but they would benefit from some content.

Have you or any of your friends read Mr. Bowen's pieces, or the BBC Trust's report?

phil

Carl
April 16th, 2009 12:16pm

I trust that Jeremy Bowen will be allowed to continue with his open and honest reporting. The fact that people try to have him silenced speaks volumes.---to you of course carl jones !!-your support of him speaks volumes too .

Pip

Ha ha ha! A mere mention of Bowen's lies and deceit, and the radicals come crawling from underneath their (radical) rocks, onto here.

Kenny

Ah, Carl and Bowen, what a pair of discredited brothers they make.

Suck up to Bowen some more Carl and he might show you a copy of The Balen Report.

Has Bowen been reprimanded now in case that report is ever leaked?

I mean, it would be terrible if he was mentioned in that report too.

Steve.W

Over 80 posts but no article, is this a record?

Wm. Hazlitt

I repeat the question: has anyone of you read what Mr. Bowen wrote or what the Editorial Standards Committee wrote? Mr. Bowen's reporting is accurate and the Committee does not reach the conclusions you appear to assume.

Carl

Dear me, reporting Israeli brutality must be suppressed at all costs - that is the only way most of you will be happy.

Adam B

The very fact that someone like Carl, (who has expressed admiration and support for the racist and genocide advocating Hamas terrorist group) thinks Bowen is a fair and good reporter, says it all. Bowen and the BBC appeal to every rabid Jew hater.

stanley Jerusalem

Wm. Hazlitt
April 16th, 2009 5:12pm
"has anyone of you read what Mr. Bowen wrote"
The licence-paying British public have been fed lies for too long and you have the effrontery to suggest that he is a "Sea green incorruptible."
May you both be subjected to the derision you both so richly deserve for your manipulation of the truth and the seditious filth and propaganda that Bowen spews and that you so warmly encourage.I trust you remember what happened to the "sea-green incorruptible."
The pedantry comment refers to your 9.05 posting.Thank you for noticing that mine seemed impressive. From you, hazlitt, I take that as a criticism worthy of disregard.
phil, I trust all the Pesachdikke kelim have been stached for another year of treif!
Be well, Chaver!

An American

Carl,

I'm beginning to come to the realization that you are in actuality...a Comedian.

Carl

Adam, as always lacking any form of coherent argument, launches personal attacks instead. Says it all really, you can no longer hide the truth so the next tactic is to smear people who tell it.

phil

An American-I knew you could change your mind when confronted with good evidence :) regards phil

Wm. Hazlitt

Stanley Jerusalem

I will take that as a "No" -you have not read Mr. Bowen's articles and you have not read the BBC Trust's reports. How then can you comment on either?

You also omit to tell me what was pedantry and what hypocrisy. I have to conclude that your sounding phrases were indeed empty of any content other than bile.

phil

stanley Jerusalem thanks I have to admit never stashing them -I also admit to being one of those Yidden who loves his heritage but follows his own path on the laws .Treif tastes nicer and my path changed when I was a teenager on my first trip to France -I was given my first entrecote medium rare and realised there were better things to eat than my mums 10 hour stew of bolar :)zsei gezunt chaver -hazlitts still chewing on the sibbilies having finished ,you know what .

phil

Wm. Hazlitt-just for the record I read it in its entirety -it is plain for all to see at least for those who left school able to read ,that bowen was condemned -it is rather pointless coming here where most are well educated to spin your childish lines -we do not believe them as even you must realise by now .I would rather write to you more pleasantly but sadly I cannot summon the good nature to turn the other cheek to your incessant twisting of facts .

stanley Jerusalem

Wm. Hazlitt
April 17th, 2009 10:52am

'Stanley Jerusalem
I will take that as a "No" '

Take what you like, Sunshine, but do try not to assume.
Even you must be aware of what 'assume' signifies?

Adam B.

Carl, the content of my post was to inform readers of your admiration and praise for Hamas, a racist, anti-semitic terror organization. What does that say abou you?

Carl

It says that you Adam are probably a lonely person, quite happy to overlook the deaths of innocent Palestinians at the hands of the IDF in order to gain some "friendship". Do you condemn the IDF for killing innocent Palestinians?

Wm. Hazlitt

Stanley Jerusalem

...um..."assume" has several meanings - from the context, any speaker of colloquial English may deduce that I was using it in the sense first attested in the late 16th century to "suppose". So, as well as spraying bile without feeling the need for any justification, you pick random words to make obscure points about...?

Adam B.

Carl, nice try. a) I'm not at all lonely. b)Your question is stupid. I may as well ask you whether you condemn British forces in WWII for killing civilians? c) Your support for anti-semitic terrorists of Hamas and Hizbollah is disgusting.

Carl

Adam, I see that you condone the IDF killing innocent Palestinians. Says all I need to know about you.

phil

cazrl you reveal your stupidity with every post you send ,but I think that is your kick ,you enjoy the pain .Adam B has many friends on these threads and many who admire him ,all you have is messages of disgust for what you write .but you like it and I suppose so do we .

stanley Jerusalem

Wm. Hazlitt
April 17th, 2009 4:41pm
"Stanley Jerusalem

...um..."assume" has several meanings - from the context, any speaker of colloquial English may deduce that I was using it in the sense first attested in the late 16th century to "suppose". So, as well as spraying bile without feeling the need for any justification, you pick random words to make obscure points about...?"

Oh just that in your criticism of what I wrote, your definition of "Assume" really does end up with your making an
"Ass" of "u" and " me." That's all really. Not too intellectually demanding for a late 19th Century essayist, one hopes.
Still it's good to know you have a decent dictionary on your desert island but no 21st Century supplement.

stanley Jerusalem

phil
April 18th, 2009 12:42pm
"but you like it and I suppose so do we ."
I don't, phil.I think it stinks. But I still won't waste 'ink' on replying to it. It's just there to watch others rise to the bait. No content. Just bile and perversity. Not really worth the bother.
Oh and by the way, if you'd gone to Jerusalem instead of La Belle France, you might still be eating Kosher today.We have sirloin, entrecote and even Foie Gras [but no crackling I'm afraid].

Wm. Hazlitt

Stanley Jerusalem

Oh, dear G*d! Is that really the best you can do?

stanley Jerusalem

Wm. Hazlitt
April 18th, 2009 6:34pm

"Stanley Jerusalem

Oh, dear G*d! Is that really the best you can do"

Tut tut! 3rd Commandment William!

Adam B.

Carl, Israel does not deliberately kill civialins. Therefore i do not condemn Israel.

Hamas deliberately targets and kills civilians, and rejoices in it.

Sad that you have no moral compass to see the difference, nor an intellect to understand.

Let me repeat the question, do you condemn Britain for killing civilians in WWII?

phil

stanley Jerusalem I think we have demonstrated that we do not always need to be serious ,and carl provides light relief and for me ,laughter-he would be far more annoying if he ever wrote anything sensible .enjoy the gelechter-just see him as a shnorrer trying to be noticed -I do .You seem to have hazlitt in check as his input is becoming more childish every day -possibly the result of the chai kak mit sibbilies he has been ingesting ,and definitely not in a restaurant in Jerusalem .Crackling is available in the town of offen yam .maybe he went there after all .

stanley Jerusalem

phil
April 19th, 2009 10:54am
"You seem to have hazlitt in check as his input is becoming more childish every day"
Sadly, that's probably the effect I have on everyone.

Carl

Adam B - I regret that you are in denial. The IDF has been proven time and time again to deliberately target civilians, including Peace Activists and Reporters. As you are unable to acknowledge this, I will treat all your submissions with the contempt an Apologists deserves.

I have no interest in discussing WW2 with somebody like you.

stanley Jerusalem

Carl
April 19th, 2009 4:55pm
I think I may have been at school with either you or your father. There was this git who sat with a sneer on his face the whole time and every 10 minutes or so would come out with some obnoxious comment apropos nothing in particular without a shred of supporting facts to back up what he said.I never knew till today what had become of him.
He was a yiddified mamzer too.

Adam B.

Anything but answer the question Carl. Go on, why not answer? Because it would show your "reasoning" to be garbage?

Israel has NOT been proven to do the things you suggest at all - only in your hate-filled mind Carl. Hamas, who you support, has been proven to target civilians, and even boasts about its crimes. Hamas is racist. It is anti-semitic. You support it.

What's that make you?

Wm. Hazlitt

Adam B.

There have been many reports over the years of soldiers of the IDF doing what you deny. It seems to me the truth of such incidents could only be proved beyond reasonable doubt in a court of law. Such cases seldom come to court. There may nevertheless be credible witnesses. In the few instances where westerners have been targetted, the IDF has been reluctantly forced to admit that such incidents do occur.

However, the main point surely is that the high command of the Israeli forces has publicly explained its tactics, and those tactics clearly involve actions which it knows must be highly likely to cause civilian casualties.

It may be that we find this less shocking than we should because our own armed forces use similarly criminal tactics.

Carl

Wm. Hazlitt - the aim of most of the posters here is simple: They want to shut people like you and I up and stifle all criticism of Israel. They will, as we see, use personal attacks and insults, anything in fact to drive critics who dare tell the truth away.

stanley Jerusalem

In the cold light of morning I was going to apologise to the other posters for my intemperate language at 5.08pm on the 19th but after reading Hazlitt again I wish to withdraw the word 'git' and replace it with 'stupid git' to include him too.

Adam B.

Wm Hazlitt, our armed forces, as well as the Israelis, use tactics which target terrorists. It is impossible, as you well know, to target terrorists who hide themselves in civilian population centres, without causing any harm to civilians at all.

Your solution would be to effectively give everything to the terrorists, as opposing them might harm civilians. Our armed forces, as well as the Israelis, do NOT target civilians.

Hamas targets civilians deliberately, and openly rejoices in killing civilians.

I notice that Carl's support for a racist, anti-semitic terror group which actively sets out to kill civilians does not cause you any consternation. Instead, you wring your hands about how we respond to these murderers, but don't address the cause - Hamas' targeting of civilians whilst using their own people as human shields. It seems your "concern" is rather selective.

Don't you see Carl's hypocrisy?

Wm. Hazlitt

Adam B.

The argument was used in Lebanon in 2006 that Israel was simply attempting to target Hizballah fighters who perfidiously placed their rocket launchers in built-up areas. Curiously, the US Army conducted an investigation after hostilities ended (to see what it could learn from Israel's experience of fighting in built-up areas), and found that Hizballah stored and fired its rockets AWAY from civilian areas. There is also the question of statements by senior military officers describing the "Dahiya" doctrine - whenever the IDF deemed itself to have been fired on from a village or quarter, that village or quarter would be deemed a battlefield and not a civilian area, and demolished by concentrated ground and air attack. This has little to do with targetting terrorists, and everything to do with the other avowed aim of teaching the civilian population a lesson by collective punishment. Then there is the question of the cluster bombs dropped in their millions over built-up areas just prior to the ceasefire...

On the question of human shields, why did the Israeli courts have to ban the practice in 2005?

On the question of IDF soldiers deliberately targetting civilians, if we ignore for now the massacres of 1948, start with Qibya and work forward to the present day. There is sufficient information in the public domain to keep you busy.

As for Hamas, we have had this discussion before. To repeat, for what it is worth, I abhor the terrorist acts of Hamas and other such organizations. Hamas, like the IRA, tries to have it both ways. In Ireland, politicians understood that it was in everyone's interests for them to go along with the fiction and talk to the IRA's political wing. The Hamas "political wing" is the duly elected Palestinian government (thanks to US blundering). There are those in the Israeli security services who take a similar view to the politicians in Ireland and Britain. To condemn Hamas is justified; to leave it at that is not.

There would seem to be hypocrisy on both sides.

stanley Jerusalem

Well Mr Hazlitt, Abu Mazen wants a two state solution to the Israeli- Palestinian problem but has one reservation. He won't recognise Israel's right to exist as a sovereign state. So we have just the one sovereign state then, Palestine. Hmm, going nowhere fast.And naturally Israel is blamed for being intransigent. Let's sum up. Hamas don't recognise Israel or Fatah but would like to wipe them out. Fatah don't recognise Israel, the UN do recognise Israel but blame her for intransigence. Personally I think Simon Cowell should be British Prime Minister and Barack Obama Miss World. How's that for a solution?

Wm. Hazlitt

Adam B. I seem to recall that you are one of those who tails other contributors shouting "Answer my question. Why don't you answer my question. Are you going to answer my question."

Am I to take it that having had your wee shout here, you have trotted off to the next blog to shout at someone else there?

I don't think you have quite grasped how debate works.

Adam B

WM Hazlitt, I have replied and it hasn't been posted. Can't frankly be bothered to type it all out again.

Wm. Hazlitt

Adam B, Fair enough - that I can sympathise with.