
For anyone who still thinks that Hamas is basically a social welfare organisation with a few nutty views; or for the many who believe (doubtless along with Jonathan Powell) that the civilised world should be talking to it; or for the yet greater numbers who think that the Arab civilians who died in the recent flare-up in Gaza were the victims of Israel, this clip of Hamas MP Fathi Hammad is necessary viewing.
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Luís Cardoso
March 15th, 2008 8:24pmGreetings from Portugal. There's a problem with the link. Keep up your great work.
Howard
March 15th, 2008 10:03pmThe world will start talking to Hamas soon. Jonathan Powell is right, and it is point I have made on your blog before. There will be no progress with talking to Hamas. Get real Melanie and start living in the real world.
Alcuin
March 16th, 2008 6:04amYour link did not work for me, but this does. Here is the transcript - try negotiating with that!
Fathi Hammad: [The enemies of Allah] do not know that the Palestinian people has developed its [methods] of death and death-seeking. For the Palestinian people, death has become an industry, at which women excel, and so do all the people living on this land. The elderly excel at this, and so do the mujahideen and the children. This is why they have formed human shields of the women, the children, the elderly, and the mujahideen, in order to challenge the Zionist bombing machine. It is as if they were saying to the Zionist enemy: "We desire death like you desire life."
The use of human shields to "protect" military installations is, of course, illegal under the Geneva Conventions and so constitutes a war crime.
George
March 16th, 2008 12:49pmTh link in the article doesn't work. Try this: http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1710.htm
Frank Pulley
March 16th, 2008 2:26pmDon't see much of this type of footage on Sky News or BBC News 24, do we?
Ravi
March 16th, 2008 8:58pmBBC LOVES the Death Cult Gazans. Why is our licence money spent on this pathetic article on Gaza (yet again!) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/7296750.stm
Paul
March 16th, 2008 10:42pmThe BBC doesn't use MEMRI because it's not a reliable, verifiable source. They use much more serious and professional sources, like unidentified "Palestinian witnesses", or "forensic experts" sent by Amnesty International to prounounce their conclusions before they've even begun their "investigations" (google "Derrick Pounder" and "Jenin").
pete woodhouse
March 16th, 2008 11:29pmFunnily enuff Howard you are totally right as you state in your post.........."There will be no progress with talking to Hamas.".........absolutely
London Calling
March 17th, 2008 2:32amWe must embrace our enemies as our friends and yes indeed keep them closer, but this takes wisdom,patience and virtue, but most of all a new kind of mediation and intellect that mankind has never known on mass. There is nothing particularly controversial about Jonathan Powell's words, for if you put your ear to the ground you will hear the voices of the multitudes of peoples who want change also and a positive way forward. Who is brave enough to lead the way? let the brave rise and be heard before we shout them down, otherwise we have shut our ears to the truth.
Roy
March 17th, 2008 8:14amHow anybody can tell our very own Melanie to get real!!! Our good lady should be running the country!! . . . Then the sparks would fly!!
A Chaffey
March 17th, 2008 10:47amReminds me of Franco's "Viva la Muerte" - long live death. That was really rather horrible, and so is this. There's an agenda here however. Friend of Israel don't want to talk with Israel's enemies. The point of is to justify this stance and their prefered choice - the ongoing low level confict. Despite other comments here, I'm not clear these bellicose comments in fact provide evidence of a war crime either.
Helen Oster
March 17th, 2008 2:28pmWell, what a surprise.............I spend about 1 -2 hours each day, responding to hate-filled diatribes on "Yahoo Answers", from people who apparently believe that ALL the problems in the Middle East are caused by Israel & the Jewish presence. I try in vain to disseminate the facts - that the "Palestinians" as a nation of Moslems, were a creation of Egyptian-born Yasser Arafat, in 1964, with the main goal of destroying the Jewish people living in the Land of Israel. - still the defined goal of Hamas, Hezbollah & the government of Iran today. I offer facts & figures that detail how many disputed pieces of land which are claimed by the "Palestinian" Moslems, were in many cases not owned, but rented from absentee Arab landlords. The land was then purchased by Jewish philanthropists & charitable organisations, piece by piece from these absentee Arab landlords. I try to raise awareness of how the Jewish effort in the 1800s to revitalise the land attracted a large immigration of Arabs from neighbouring areas who were drawn by employment opportunities and healthier living conditions. There was never any attempt to "rid" the area of the few Arabs that there were, or of those Arabs that immigrated into this area along with the Jews. I focus upon how this contrasts with the actions of the governments of Morocco, Egypt, Iran (then Persia), Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon Syria & Yemen, who caused thousands of Jewish people to flee the homes that had been owned & lived in by their families for generations. They ended up in pre-State 'Palestine'. (Even a cursory glance at the general Jewish population of Israel today, reveals a majority of dark-skinned Israelis, bearing testimony to their Middle-Eastern roots). Nevertheless, I continue to read the same messages of hate, every single day. Not just from "Palestinians", but from people who ally themselves with the "Palestinian" cause. In Jerusalem, out walking with my children aged 8 & 10, I've had stones thrown at me by Arab youths, but we've come to not only expect that here, but to expect the face of the civilised world to turn against us. The writing is on the wall for Britain, too. By 2010, if current census predictions are accurate, there will be more Moslems in Birmingham - the UK's second city - than non-Moslems. Maybe in 3 or 4 generations, when ordinary Britons are being accused of having "stolen" a Moslem country, those who are currently blind supporters of Islam & detractors of Israel, will recall how it all began.
David Guy
March 18th, 2008 8:02amThe Palestinian suicide 'fighter' paradigm is a Kassam missile: lethal in intent; inefficient in operation; often more dangerous to his own side than the enemy and can only be used once. The Israeli paradigm is an F16 fighter: multitasking; guided by the finest in technology and biotechnology (his brain and that of his officers); high payload; defends himself; learns from his mistakes and can be used over and over. Small surprise who comes out on top.