Blue Obama-lite

Uri

Agree. Frying pan or fire for us all. I hope the hung parliament is short and not sweet. What happens after that is 'interesting'.

Archie

"So what?" indeed, Miss Phillips. A pathetic man who can't even attain a decent lead over the worst government in the memory of man; and what are we to make of this woman supposedly advising Cameron? http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/15/anita-dunn-a-corruptocrat-flack-and-a-mao-cheerleader/

Dixon

Good article and just the right response to the silly headline momentarily at the front of this site.

No notes...but no speech writer would have included the litany of gaffs that Cameron came out with. Its a simple, basic, axiomatic principle that if you dont want someone to think of something, dont mention it. What did he do...mentioned every negative interpretation of his promise of "change" that most people are likely to consider. Ie, saying "not" some vague change of one set of politicians for another actually makes people think exactly that! The addition of "not" at the start is immaterial. What people hear is the substance of the statementl "some vague change of one set of politicians for another".

Cameron is quite clearly clueless. and to end by invoking patriotism as a reason to vote for him...well thats got to be the last refuge of the hopeless!

We need the Tories to lose this time around, so they will really start to face up to the need to grasp that litany of nettles that you mention Mel, then maybe we can hope for real change to start somewhere down the line, about another decade.

Tom Dickon-Harry

Ah, they just stole the Royal Mint's slogan, "Change you can believe in."

d1carter

I just read in the American media that Anita Dunn, Obama's first communications director is now working for Cameron. Surprise!

Frank P

I've been waiting for that all day Melanie. As always, straight for the jugular and the essence distilled in the pungent prose of a few apt phrases. Thank you, I can retire to bed and sleep soundly, now.

It does, however, leave us on the horns of a dilemma: we simply can't allow Brown and his thugs to continue, but if Dave ain't the answer, then who is? Apparently Daniel Hannan's party piece on the fringes of the conservative dog and pony show at Brighton yesterday didn't raise a mention anywhere in the UK media today, although it featured heavily in the US media. I was beginning to look to him as a possible alternative to CMD at some stage, but commenter Vulture attended the 'Tea Party' and reported back on the Coffee House thread today (vide 10.47am on thread entitled "The Tory lead is down to two points, Cameron needs to deliver a brilliant speech" by James Forsyth); Vulture's report is somewhat depressing, to put it mildly.

Cameron is hell bent on the course he has delineated; imho it is not a subterfuge with intent to transmogrify to traditional conservatism or even progressive conservatism once in power; he really means to take the banner of the Long March and continue with new legs, whilst concurrently ceding to increased Islamic encroachment. Prepare for Dhimmitude! We're already in the early stages. CMD of course is preparing for Higher office in the EUSSR and the more streamlined gravy train than the one he currently enjoys. Gramsci would have enjoyed his speech today. His disciples now have achieved a complete rout on both side of the Atlantic. Your last sentence is a Parthian shot and a bullseye to boot. Bravissimo!

Tony Allwright

Cameron's story about the man who impregnated his welfare-dependant girlfriend reminded me of a chart I spotted in an new report to the US Congress entitled " Fourth National Incidence Study of Child Abuse and Neglect".

About 150 pages in, you can find this stunning chart.

The report comments that “The rate of Harm Standard abuse for children living with two married biological parents [shown in gold in the chart] ... is significantly lower than the rate for children living in all other conditions of family structure and living arrangement ... The rates in the highest and lowest risk groups differ by more than a factor of 11”. Eleven!

This illustrates a simple choice, really. You are either pro diversity in parental lifestyle choice for adults, or else pro-children. One or the other. You can't be both. Naturally, since by comparison with freedom for adults, the welfare of children is irrelevant unless white Catholic priests are doing the abusing, nearly everyone opts for the former.

Cameron is clearly opting for the former in his public approval of unmarried parenthood. It is a deeply malevolent position for such a prominent politician, a likely future prime minister no less, to take.

And hypocritical, considering he has given his own children the best chance in life by marrying and living with their mother. Why is is so eager to deny this opportunity to other defenceless children?

Roy

An excellent summing up, as usual, by Melanie. He is determined to say no more, he can't see the wood for the trees.

Major Plonquer

I disagree. In fact, I think the latest poll numbers (2%) are about the best possible result. Hanging's too good for 'em.

For me things have already CHANGED too much. For example. when did the Conservative Party become the Liberal Democrats?

And when did the UK become the Salvation Army?

Did I miss something.

150 Wat Tyler

Diversity Dave's last refuge: phoney patriotism

Samuel Johnson and Enoch Powell are no doubt slyly winking at each other in their graves.

And the pretend baroness didn't 'destroy' the real patriot, Nick Griffin, on Question Time, either.

Let's see the pretend baroness debate the issues one to one with him, without the other hostile panelists, the biased host, the loaded audience and 500 traitorous 'anti-fascist' halfwits outside - and with him being allowed to speak for more than two seconds without being shouted down.

The Conservative Party conserve nothing.

Mustapha Bunn

Think 'Cameron', think 'waste of space'.

Jan Pompe

From the antipodes it looks like a change from Gordon Brown to a very little else of the same.

What's to choose between Labour and Labory?

TomTom

Peter Hitchens has his wish fulfilled and David Cameron is the instrument by which the Conservative Party will be destroyed.

Retired Dave

Mel - spot on as usual.

Many of us have said for a while that if the Cons place themselves as NuLab Lite, the electorate might just vote for the real deal.

The only hope for Cast Iron Dave's crew now - is a massive gilt strike and fall in the pound - might just make folks realise how bad things are. A lot of people seem to think things are on the rise, and don't understand that a very bad storm is coming.

On the other hand it may just make some people realise that a vote for UKIP and Libdem is a vote for Labour.

Where has the Conservative Party gone when you need it????

Merlyn

The Islamic Forum of Europe (IFE) — which believes in jihad and sharia law, and wants to turn Britain and Europe into an Islamic state — has placed sympathisers in elected office and claims, correctly, to be able to achieve “mass mobilisation” of voters.
This is what was posted in the Daily Telegraph today. All the parties are stitched up! The conservatives want to be seen as multi-culti too.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/labour/7333420/Islamic-radicals-infiltrate-the-Labour-Party.html

mark

Nightmare scenario for Conservatives. Win a narrow majority, limp through 5 years, be booted out having implemented difficult fiscal policies but without the energy or will to pass any other meaningful legislation.

Nightmare scenario for Labour.... the same. Some elections just are not worth winning. 1992 finished off the Conservatives for a generation. This year's may do the same for Labour. Cameron is more Kinnock blue than Obama lite

Larry A

it's naive to think that a party of elites and know-nothings like the Tories would ever be any better than woeful Labour, on every front. It's the same in the States, with the Republicans and Democrats. Actually expecting a change of political parties who aren't any different to one another to change anything is the height of folly. Nothing ever changes, change has to come from the grassroots or not at all. God forbid anybody acknowledge that.

David Newcastle

Sadly, so true.

mark

Retired Dave

"Many of us have said for a while that if the Cons place themselves as NuLab Lite, the electorate might just vote for the real deal."

Good point. Funny thing is the left were saying the same about Blair 15 years ago. Didn't happen. People just did not bother voting in 2001 and 2005. The real danger is voter apathy, that is when 150 Wat Tyler's "real patriots" may be in with a chance.

Paul Weston

Is Cameron really trying to lose the election, or is he titanically stupid?

Melanie points out all the policies and issues that he, as a natural conservative, really ought to be talking about.

Yet those precise policies are now articulated only by the BNP and UKIP, who are of course, garnishing ever greater support as a result.

Is Cameron a Leftist plant?

phil

And so you believe we should stick with Labour ?-probably the worst government in living memory-I find DC very childish in his approach ,particularly at question time ,but the thought of 5 more years of Ed Balls and his wife fills me with horror .
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I would prefer to hear from you the policies that you wish to see from the Tories, like a taxation one that encourages entrepreneurs ,yes those that produce jobs and innovation ,a way of reducing waste on quangos,a way to regenerate the youth clubs that provide a place to grow for the young and that will give them a sense of pride and purpose .How about a better direction of our police forces with less documentation and more help for those that wish to live in a peaceful society ,perhaps even a policy that will lessen the huge divide between communities that we are experiencing .
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I just do not want to hear tittle tattle about the problems of a young couple being the reason not to eject this appalling government.This thread has produced our new way of pouncing on those in authority and enjoying the ability to criticise and mock without an ounce of construction ,just what I see every thursday on Dimbelby,s question time from the audience -I would of course prefer you to be there every week to dispense your usual measure of common sense ,but sorry I do not think this article reflected that grounded sense that I am used to.

Rachael

Of course Call Me Dave wouldn’t mention Islamism.

Another poster touches on the Telegraph’s revelations about the Labour Party this weekend (if you haven't read that link, please do), but the Brussels Journal has been exposing the strange goings on in the Conservative Party for months:

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/4319

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/4171

All very odd.

And totally untrustworthy.

Kiwi

To quote Albert Einstein:
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

Tasman

How many conservatives are there in your conservative party? Not many by the sound of it. Surely time for a party revolt.

De Rigueur

Quite agree Melanie.

But hang on you will be voting conservative anyway, like the vast majority of posters here. (Even if they say they'll vote UKIP.)

What the Tories have to do is attract the trolls who voted Blair in last time and had voted Tory before Major lost them.

Hence the fluffy-feel-good-NHS-stuff. Please try and keep this in mind chaps.

PS: Verity's iron-like grip on logic will not appeal to the soft Mondeoman and his waggish wife.

YOU KNOW IT MAKES SENSE!

DougS

Melanie, I think that you've made a case for voting UKIP, which I've already decided to do.
They're the only acceptable party that opposes the corrupt, wasteful, undemocratic EU and the AGW alarmist scam.
I believe that a massive increase in votes for UKIP will send a powerful message to the mainstream parties, whatever the result of the general election.

De Rigueur

DougS: "I believe that a massive increase in votes for UKIP will send a powerful message to the mainstream parties, whatever the result of the general election."

So you don't care if that treasonable wrecker Brown and his gets in again - just so long as someone gets your "powerful message"?

What an exercise in futility.

PS: Agree with most points here, especially Verity's, but the time has come to get rid of the socialists. And Dave is not one. Really.

Liz

Surely Conservative politicians read the Spectator? Can't they see the general mood of the voter? I've yet to read a post from someone who really believes in David Cameron as a worthwhile leader. As far as I'm concerned, the Conservatives lost the plot when they ousted Thatcher and replaced her with sheep. It seems that the only strong sense of purpose being offered in England these days is from either the BNP or militant Islam. How utterly woeful things have become.

Rachael

It's a Hobson's Choice election, all right.

If Brown is given five more years he will rig the voting system - in cahoots with the Limp Dims - so that no one else can ever do anything - not even a breakaway real conservative party.

And so I may be forced - sickbag in hand - to vote for the same party as Peter Oborne and David Blackburn - you all remember him, don't you? The 'journalist' who gets most animated when penning spivvy defences of Binyam Mohamed and Lord Ashcroft.

Whoever's in power on May 7 we lose.

Our taxes will have to make up for Lord Ashcroft's shortfall over all these years and we can all pay more benefits to Mr Mohamed. And David Blackburn - along with the Conservative Party's David Davis - will still not tell us why anyone should take at their word someone who sees fit to travel to war zones using a false passport.

FrankFisher

Wel I'm not voting for this kind of soggy social democrat garbage. This is not conservative thinking, it's not right wing, it's no alterative to Labour. And if not voting for Dave means Brown will win, so be it. I'm not prepared to vote for the lesser of two evils any more. I reckon this country needs to be taken down to rock bottom before it will see what needs to be done to turn around. So be it.

To hell, and hopefully back.

Daibhidh the Celt

Archie:
Thanks for posting the Malkin link.
Just shows how deranged leftists like Dunn have become and how widespread their particular pathology has infested our own decaying democracy.

John Richardson

'De Rigueur'

'DougS' is correct.

I too hope (and expect) that a large vote for UKIP is the (least worst) outcome of the next G.E.
Should UKIP achieve the above it will have been done : in the face of MSM contempt ; despite the lies of the BBC ; without money being spent ; without 'popular' figures ; without a large established electioneering machine.
This would be more of an achievement than to deliver a speech without notes.
We could add that the 'established' Parties all offer Foreign Rule as inevitable.
Should the Nation vote UKIP anyway, it would demonstrate that democratic political representation can not be completely hijacked by a corrupt Party Duopoly.

General Elections are not a process that decides who's turn it is in Office.

Instead, they demonstrate the will of the People.
Otherwise they are not legitimate.
It's not the voting, it's the choosing.
Without choice, voting is irrelevant. Simple.

There are two 'treasonous wreckers' on offer. I contend that hoping Cameron is lieing about his value & intentions is futile. He aint.

Too often, those who support Cameron on the right, seem to suggest that the very act of taking vengeance on Labour/Brown is in itself worthy.
Haven't they noticed labour are exhausted and secure in the political dispensation they are passing on ?
Some, like Blair, having wrought disaster, seem eager to get out and earn some 'real money'.
Cameron in No.10 does not worry them.
All this without the obvious consequences of the Conservative Party being in Office when the £ chickens come home to roost.

At present the Party Duopoly does not offer a choice.
Voting for policies you hate is not the answer.

A large vote for UKIP would demonstrate the People do not lend legitimacy to the Party Duopoly.
Then, after 'events' it would be game on.

Charlie

"So it was delivered without notes. So what?

Why does a feat of technical virtuosity become an election-winner? "

Well, after watching the Name and his teleprompters I suppose it is something to be proud of.
An accomplishment to redden the faces of the Americans.

Michael White

My amateur refresher of the last election result tells me that the Conservatives achieved more votes than Labour (in England), and that was with the right-of-centre Michael Howard and his proposed annual immigration limit. With the slight adjustments to the internal voting borders, which (slightly) favours the Tories, and less biased media, exactly the same voting might have seen them get a hung parliament or even to power. The point is that England THEN wanted a right-of-centre policy change. So why does David Cameron not recognise this in his strategy? I was very disappointed that he came across as a self-appointed appeaser - not unlike a Peter Hain type character. Unless this is all a sophisticated smoke screen to garner votes from a very complex demographic nowadays (thanks to Labour), then we're done for. David Davis would have been a far better choice that Dave in my view, always thought it.

Regarding the pregnant girl – an astounding viewpoint - try taking a bit of responsibility by being there to raise the child and then living within your means, mate. A sop to this couple will invite an avalanche of similar claims, as has happened so often in the past. It just raises the bar.

Ian Parker

My goodness. I was asking over two years ago if Cameron was really a Labour plant. I even posed that question on 'ConservativeHome' with the predictable squeals from the well-known groupies there. When I explained the serious reasoning behind my question, they had no rebuttals, of course.

Now, the question is even more proved. Cameron has totally alienated the core Tory vote. At a time when they are reviled as a corrupt, duplicitous, self-enriching, nation-destroying bunch of crooks, Labour find themselves faced with the Hollow Man Cameron. They could not have planned it better.

Dixon

We are already at the point where members of the EDL ( not even BNP ) are being raided by the police under "anti terror" legislation. The same legislation that will be used to enforce the diktat of the IFE and sharia in this country when it comes. (BTW Mel, why havent you covered the IFE story yet?)

Clearly, the present version of the "opposition" needs to collapse and completely dissapear to make room for something up to the job in prospect. Anyone who really objects to the way this country ( and all of Western society, let us not forget, particularly Holland ) has been going must hope that Dave loses this election resoundingly. Only then is there any hope of real change.

Vishal

So, is the Labour/Brown version better??

The Tories are damned if they do and damned if they don't!! Be radical and the liberal media jumps on them. Come up with decent ideas and Labour steals them.

Only one question really: do you want to see 5 more years of Labour/Brown spending irresponsibly? Then fine, go on, vote Labour. Otherwise, give the Tories a chance and judge them on performance in government.

DougS

De Rigueur
March 1st, 2010 12:52pm

Who can spot the difference between GB and DC?

Apart from DC tackling the budget deficit a bit earlier, there's virtually none!

I don't see any point in keep voting for parties with policies you don't believe in.

Chris

All true. And this article of yours here:
http://www.melaniephillips.com/articles-new/?p=721

The Australian article deserves a wider audience.

A straw poll in the pub, in my marginal Tory/LibDem constituency, shows both parties being damaged by UKIP.

Lifetime Tory voters see no reason for supporting Cameron (other than hatred of socialism and Brown). That takes some incompetence.

Simone

You certainly speak for me, Melanie. I'm just so, so disappointed. I expected better. I kept thinking: only a few more months of this bullying, pc, incompetent and traitorous Labour government, and then the Conservatives will put everything back in order.
But now it doesn't look as if they will.
Others say that we should vote Conservative anyway, and hope that our views will be accommodated over time. I just don't know...

Baron

Sadly, private Fraser got it spot on.

Baron

Cast your mind back to the time of the last election. Growing displeasure with the Government foreign policy, millions of the streets, and yet Blair got in with comfortable majority. Why? The money was flowing in easily.

The same will be true come the next election. The great unwashed doesn’t give a toss about any of the shenanigans, bullying and stuff, it will cast their votes by the clinking of pounds in their pocket. If the economy shows signs of revival, and the money begins to trickle in again, the vast majority of the electorate will go for the devil you know. Why should anyone switch to get a blue replica of what we have, ha?

Daniel Lionsden

The conservatives are now obsessed with appealing to the 'centre ground' of politics; unfortunately that 'centre ground' is a dismal piece of turf dictated by the MSM, especially the BBC, far to the left of the genuine centre.
As many here have said, a hung parliament, even a small Labour majority, is now probably the least worst option. Should the tories win, they will no doubt be demonised from day one. I expect the BBC would recommission a new series of Yes Minister and other satirical programmes so noticeable by their absence over the last 13 years. Popular culture will immediately forget everything about this current government, as happened in 1979, and the entire problems of the country will be blamed on the Conservatives, with, of course, the Labour party being seen as the saviours.
This might not be so bad if the conservatives realised this and were prepared to push through the severe reforms necessary. If they are to be hated they may as well give their enemies cause for it. But Cameron appears prepared merely to nurse the progressive agenda for five years then hand it back to Labour to carry on.

SimonP

Change from red to blue, while everything else continues down the same route. Except for the economy, right? Or maybe not.

Hamish Monro

Rubbish. David Cameron will make an excellent PM. It is vital that we get rid of the awful Government now. But the will be a Labour win if Melanie Philips and other continue to rubbish him.
Shut up, all of you - and give him the support he needs. Loyalty is a precious thing.

Augustus

Re: 'the change we've got to bring...'

Would it make any difference if he grew a ponytail?

James Murphy

No, Melanie, like all idealists you're naively missing the psychological point. Politics is the art of the possible. 'Hopey-changey', Dave may be, but at the very least his will be a right-of-centre hopey-changey thing! Thus, too, his errors and shortcomings will all be weighted in the right direction. A slow, subtle escape from the Marxist wolf in Nulabour sheep's clothing is the best we can hope for in the current world of British politics. Indeed, I suspect you are (for some strange reason) being a little disingenuous here. What else would you have the impotent protest vote do? Throw our hands in the air in despair and vote for five more years of the hideous Brown and his PC cronies?

John Steadman

Another gem from our host.

Mary

Out of interest I subscribed to the Tory e mail list and thus have access to the "Blue Blog". On the Blog people are screaming at David Cameron what they want him to do - along the lines of Melanie's article.To think that Cameron would ignore such a rich resource when he is slipping in the polls and make a frankly off-putting speech like he did on Friday simply beggars belief.

Margaret Muller-Johansson

Vote for a change
"Vote for Cameron"
he deserves to win

logdon

Obama tanks in the US and Cameron thinks that's the way to go?

Read Glenn Beck, Pajamas Media, Red State Morning News, Newsreal, Front Page or any other conservative blog for objective analysis from the not the MSM media and you'll soon be disabused of the fallacy of the Obamot's invincibility.

He is now being perceived as being dishonest, racist, partisan and worst of all in the US, a socialist.

Here's one from Civitas which I believe is key

www.civitas.org.uk/wordpress/2010/02/23/immigration-minister-goes-%E2%80%98bononkers%E2%80%99-on-the-today-programme/#more-2112

Or the PDF they just produced which challenges the myth of immigrant benefit.

NotChallengingMythsFeb2010-1.pdf

The silence of the Tories on this one issue alone suggests cover up, political correctness before national interest and a craven unwillingness to dismantle the edifice of Babel created by Labour.

In other words a whiff of dishonesty, precisely the factor which has holed Obama's best laid plans below the waterline.

A we know best, top down attitude which ignores the pleas of the very people he is pitching to for their votes.

At a point where Brown is regarded as little more than a little man with zero competance and an over compensating ego, the Tories should be watching Labour disappear in the slipstream.

They're not. It's not working. Twelve weeks to touchdown and it's looking neck and neck.

We are screwed.

London Calling

Dear Melanie,

There’s change and there’s change and then there’s small-change, the latter being the result of no notes.Obama’s best speeches were written for him, it was the delivery that secured its impact on the listener.

Cameron’s speech started well until his eyes started swirling and his tongue darted in and out to the words ‘Twust in me, Twust in me’ ;o … all in all though he gave a good speech, however the lacking in substance of Tory policies will require a lorra lorra notes until polling day…;)

PS
I know Gordon Brown didn’t kill Archie in Eastenders, But I do think it was Cameron who punctured Boris Johnson’s bicycle though…

Ed

But then New Labour was a continuation of Conservatism anyway. And so the circle is complete.

cityca

Above all, I feel that the UK has become such a nasty place under Nu Labour.

Cameras everywhere, generating income and causing everyone to spy on everyone else.

The only thing they don't have the ability to do is actually identify criminals caught in the act.

A plethora of council jobsworths, spying and interfering in everyone's lives, except of course, those creatures damaging their own tiny children.

Tick boxes - if it's ticked, job done, except of course, it isn't. All that's done is the f...... boxes are ticked. Is common sense no longer taught anywhere?

PCPs - i.e. politically correct police - the unlamented former Chief Constable Ian Blair being a perfect example. Profile, arrest, stop and search. Bloody hell yes. If someone's carrying a knife , a bomb a gun, your job is surely to protect and serve or whatever the UK equivalent is of that. Do it ffs!

Don't arrest 80 year olds who heckle Tony Blair at Nu Lab party conferences. Arrest those who seriously want to destroy our quality of life or indeed our lives.

Have the balls to stand up against radical Islam. Don't you know most Muslims want the same thing? When are politicians everywhere going to wake up and shown what they are made of instead of kowtowing to the Imams of hate?

Show some principles. Let us see the real David Cameron, not some homogenised, pasteurised, half fat inoffensive, all things to all men politician. No one will vote for that and Brown will get in again.

wrinkled weasel

I was going to write about the Cameron speech on my blog. I decided to look and see what you had to say. Best I could do now is cut and paste your entire commentary, so I wont bother. I particularly liked "the nihilism and injustice and bullying of political correctness", something I have returned to, using those very words, time and time again.

You are right of course when you say the Tories are just a whiter shade of pale.

There is nothing remotely radical about their agenda and depressingly, this is a limp grab at power for the sake of power. I like to think we are a bit brighter than the Americans, who were fooled by a bit of inverted racism, a slick campaign and a platform of "change" that was never going to happen anyway. Cameron's blatant theft of Obama's election cry is doomed to be binned, like junk mail, because it is just as useless and just as annoying.

mhayworth

UKIP will have 500+ candidates running in this election. If we don't get off our butts and campaign to get them in, there won't be enough of a country left for us to care about which one of the left wing lib/lab/con is still pretending to be in charge. A vote for UKIP is NOT a vote for Labour. Wake up for God's sake!

just Louise

Talking of "the appeasement of radical Islamism", last night's Dispatches programme on Channel 4 showed how fundamentalists have infiltrated the Labour Party leadership in Tower Hamlets, how they conned Met Police head Ian Blair into cooperating with them (he even told their rep when anti-terror raids were imminent, yesterday's Torygraph revealed!!!). Apparently, the fundamentalists' trick is to infiltrate political parties - any party will do - and influence policy ...
Will the Cameroonians be similarly conned? I wouldn't put it past them.

Trumpeldor

Melanie,

We are observing the same phenomenon in Belgium and in France
The UMP of Sarkozy is practising a center left policy whereas his supporters are from the right
In Belgium,the supposedly center right MR is shifting to the left too
I really have no clues about the real motivations
Might I suspect heavy arab subsidies in order to maintain a strong immigration from North Africa ?
In any case,politics does not leave vacuums and new center right and patriotic parties are appearing on the political arena

Martin

I guess it's easier to not use notes when you have nothing much to say. The frightening this is that he's a PR man, a self confessed spin doctor; opposition is what he's ideally suited for and he looks second-rate at best. Imagine what a disaster he will when he's in government and has actual responsibilities!

phil

How sad to see on a predominately right of centre thread so many suggesting we go like lemmings to a disaster and retain this awful excuse for a government .So many suggestions to vote for ukip who have no chance of winning ,but will attract votes away from the Tories and ensure a Brown victory.The world is giving its own verdict by smashing the value of our pound and trying hard to tell us to wake up to reality .
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Brown and Balls are the pied pipers who will lead us to our doom and those of you who think a smack on DC,S face had better realise that its your own faces that you are smacking .If you let Labour win again you will answer to your children for what you have done to them .I so wish Churchill was here again to tell you people that we are Brits ,strong and brave in the face of adversity and not a bunch of cry babies ,wake up before you ruin yourselves !! ..

Rachael

I've no doubt the Cameron clique despise him but Richard Littlejohn sums up some coherent reasons why people would vote Conservative (more than the party, anyway):

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1254697/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-Browns-Britain-2015-Queen-fled.html

Do read Mel's piece above this one that links to her article in The Australian.

There comes a point when the mockery and sneering of the Lefty media just become irrelevant. It seems to be happening in Oz and it may well happen in America with the next Republican candidate.

And where are the Cameroons? Ah, yes, back to this piece - copying Princess Obama.

Ronnie

Phil.

I think it's very interesting to see our correspondent and her followers treating the coming general election as if it were a bye election. Calling for a protest vote against a government that has not yet been elected.

They'll be calling Dave a CINO next. Yes, Conservative in Name Only.

Rachael

"our correspondent and her followers"

And Peter Hitchens. And Simon Heffer. And Janet Daley. And Leo McInstry. And all the rebels in the Conservative Party. And their followers. And the abstainers. And the UKIPers. And so on and so on.

phil

Ronnie
March 2nd, 2010 3:20pm I am getting used to so much of what is posted here ,has anyone suggested a policy for DC that they would like to see except me? ,apologies if I missed one -So much disparaging of anyone who raises his head above the parapet ,so much nonsense about protest votes from those who will really have something to protest about if and when Mr and Mrs balls replace Mr brown ,they will not be going on foreign holidays with what our pound will buy for a start ,but if you feel up to reading the coffee house wall ,you will find a group who truly love themselves trashing everyone in their sights whilst patting themselves on the back until the bruising is off the Richter scale ,never an ounce of common sense or pragmatism -how is our nation going to progress whilst this climate of sarcasm and innuendo fills most of our airwaves and media -I used to believe in the inherent sense of we Brits but I am losing it rapidly ,we are going to get just what we deserve .Margaret MJ and a few others I absolve you ,I know you care .

Humf

Ken Clarke's activities on behalf of "Dave's" shot at the trough show a determination to subscribe us into the federal EU (with our money of course).
First his quiet mission to reassure Barosso followed by a a quick grovel to Ms Merkel.

If our parliament is "hung" it would be a natural result, and especially fitting for those who wish to hand it over!

Ronnie

Yes Rachael, all the people who love being in opposition to Labour governments.

Achille

But no one told Cameron that Obama is a sinking ship(sheep)?

How is it possible to be that out of touch?

Rachael

"Yes Rachael, all the people who love being in opposition to Labour governments."

It wasn't just Melanie Phillips then, was it?

MARGARET

I am not sure how true it is that no party can change much while we are part of the EU with the self amending Lisbon treaty controlling us, but it would seem the only hope is for the UKIP to get us out of it and give back our freedom to have a party which is allowed to give us change. After that we can vote Conservative again.

Ian C Walker

..Melanie Phillips you take the words out of my mouth! David Cameron has ruined any positive future for Britain (cannot say thew 'Great' anymore!. We now have no alternative to the looney left! Shame on you Mr Cameron! If you cannot rescind what you have said then we are doomed to an increasingly dark future.