David Obameron bravely stands up to the victims of religious war

J St L

Indeed, so I might just vote Labour after all.

john Norman

Abject.Shabby. Incoherent.

Paul Freeman

Thanks for this, Melanie. I'm voting UKIP.

Lee Jakeman

David Cameron. Britain's last prime minister.

Just need to figure out who will be England's first.

Adam B.

That's what comes in not believing in anything - you believe in anything.

Norwegian in Bahrain

Dave should ask himself, how safe will he feel visiting any future Palestinian-controlled East Jerusalem, where Arabs nationals of all persuations will suddenly flock, right next to Jewish and Christian sites? An irresistable terror target?

cyllan

Paul freeman

i understand your point however ukip is not going to win elections

i wise man said when you have to choose two evils you chose the lesser of the evils, because the lesser of 2 evils is

the lesser of 2 evils,

a mass vote to ukip would mean another 4 years of labour, do you want that?.....

RR

He's just lost another voter. UKIP for me and many more I suspect.

TheDiggler

Don't make me laugh Dave. "Occupied" East Jersualem. That's rich!

Joshua

As I invariably refer to the occupied Malvinas, occupied Northern Ireland and occupied Gibraltar, I believe that I am every bit as courageous as Cameron.

Margaret Muller-Johansson

David Cameron will win I know it is a big problem when the majority of the people in this country are morons and don't know who to vote for but that is not my problem I am with the Boss with David Cameron

jason

Labour has cut military to israel 95 percent, likes goldstone report and is for labels against israel goods and trying to rally EU. There are huge differences and labour allows Israelis to be targeted by Hamas for arrest and tories have said they will change that law right away.

DDGG

Great, so who is left to vote for now that will actually make any difference?
The signs were always there. When Obama came over to the UK during the US election (as if to say he knew he already had the job in the bag) and Cameron could hardly stop gushing.
I seriously don't think my moral conscience will let me vote for any party in May.
Help!

Kojak

What a plonker!

Watt Tyler

cyllan represents the slave mentality that is prevalent in our society. The people are a measure on how good or bad a soceity is, and we know that our socity stinks.

So, the Tories are the lesser of two evils, are they? Well, who are you going to vote for when they become the worst of two evils - as they undoubtedly will (and rapidly so when we see the carbon taxes and further surrender to the EU). Are you going to vote for Labour again? They will, after all, be the lesser of two evils.

So much for Spectator reading types. I hope, like Winston Smith does, that the "proles" will be our saviours.

Marcus from the USA

So as British politics now stand,

Tories = anti-Israel
Labour = very anti-Israel
Lib Dems = very,very anti-Israel
RESPECT = Nazi Jew haters
UKIP = neutral in the Mid-East
BNP = very, very pro-Israel

The BNP/EDL hooligans are the only folks left in Britain that support Israel.

Homer J

If only I could vote for Melanie Phillips.

AAE

Well, another anti-Conservative feather in his cap then! Strange then that he was so keen to forge an alliance with the Ulster Unionists. People on this side of the Irish Sea may not be aware that in Ulster, whilst Republican enclaves fly the Palestinian flag, on the other side of the 14 mile "peaceline" (another dividend of the peace process!) the Unionists fly the Israeli flag.

Matt Pryor

Very, very worrying to read this. Thank you for sharing, Melanie.

SimonP

@ Marcus from the USA, April 6th, 2010 11:21am

"BNP = very, very pro-Israel
The BNP/EDL hooligans are the only folks left in Britain that support Israel."

There are plenty supporters of Israel in Britain who are not hooligans, and who would not tough the BNP and the EDL.

And there are many who are still skeptical about Griffin's about-face from his racist, Holocaust denial days.

Take a look at, e.g.,

http://www.jewcy.com/post/british_national_partys_proisrael_turn

http://www.nothingbritish.com/02/platform-bnp-are-no-friends-of-israel/

http://www.thejc.com/blogpost/bnp-leader-nick-griffin-friend-israel

And there's alot of other simmilar stuff you can find if you do a, internet search. Some buy Griffin's new stance; some don't.

At least he says, now, that he agrees Israel has a right to exist and defend itself against Islamic extremism. But is that really the same thing as actually being "very, very pro-Israel"?

Jez

SimonP,

The QT programme was a classic time to set the record straight.... if this was indeed wanted by NG.

Unfortunately the programme was a shambles..... old news, i know.

I strongly suspect that as the minutes pass- and the social structure of the country changes (evermore dramatically) then the rank & file UKIP, EDL (especially) + the BNP will become very, very pro-Israel.

The social realities in this country are a work in progress.... a living, breathing entity. It's constantly changing dynamic.

This is something that makes smaller parties much more effective in their approach regarding ever differing realities on the ground.

The old three (and i mean 'OLD') are utterly helpless to swerve, turn or move toward a changing situation..... because they are paraliysed by being so heavily sponsored by an establishment that seeks it's own replacement via the EU / Globalist model.

It would make a good book, all this..... but who'd publish something so far fetched?

LOL!

All the best.

Augustus

Protest votes for minority parties are no use in a British General Election. Even if 'new' conservatism under David Cameron
does not appear to be truly anchored in Conservative tradition, if Labour wins again
then the middle class will suffer and socialist ideals will
continue to drag Britain down. But if Cameron wins the middle class will have gained ground, and the multiculturalists and the socialists will have lost ground. History does show that
Conservatives are a more competent party to handle the nation's finances, and are more likely to support the working sector of society. And the working sector produces the taxes which favours everyone, including the weakest. A re-birth of a Brown cabinet will only result in a more extreme socialist Britin without any compromise with Toryism, and with every chance of a rebirth of the classic 'haves' and 'have
nots' values.

Joe Strummer

Well said, AAE. The Star of David proudly flies alongside the Red Hand of Ulster flag in many Unionist communities in Northern Ireland. It's also regularly seen at Glasgow Rangers Ibrox football ground.

Adam B.

No Marcus, the BNP is not pro-Israel - far from it.

Nice try though.

cityca

I was just leafing through Churchill's History of the Second World War, Volume 1.

The theme of the volume is:
How the English-speaking peoples through their unwisdom and carelessness and good nature allowed the wicked to rearm.

In Cameron's case, we could also add, 'and lack of political conviction'....

UKIP look more and more attractive.

Joshua

"If only I could vote for Melanie Phillips."

I'd settle for marrying her.

Matt Pryor

The fact remains that 80% of the parliamentary Conservative party are members of Conservative Friends of Israel. I find this encouraging.

I don't see the need to turn to smaller parties. UKIP are quite honestly a bit of a joke and I don't trust a word that Griffin et al say, especially when it comes to his views on Jewish self-determinism.

Ellen

Another poster writes: "The social realities in this country are a work in progress."

And this is the story here. There are about 250,000 Jews in the UK. There are at least two million Muslims at the most conservative estimate.

Open borders combined with the Islamic doctrine of Hijra mean that the mainstream politicians have more Muslim votes to chase than Jewish.

What benefit to any mainstream British politician to stand up for Israel when that trend is only going to continue?

That they might act on principle?

Don't make me laugh.

just Louise

Still, as "Call Me Dave" trumpeted in the Jewish Chronicle very recently, having for years kept under wraps the info - already leaked in its pages some years ago by an academic well informed about such matters - he has a Jewish great-grandpa, of which fact he is immensely proud (is there by any chance an election in the air?) ...
I don't trust "Call Me Dave" but I trust Labour still less, and I fear a vote for UKIP will mean five more years of Labour, with all it has done to destroy Britain as we once knew it.
So it's nose-holding and Tory-voting time once again ...

Gregory

I hope Joshua realises how lucky he is.

TomTom

Cameron needs those Muslim votes in Witney. After all his predecessor in that seat became a Labour Minister !

John Edwards

I'm not a Tory but David Cameron has merely stated the facts, quite reassuring if he is going to our Prime Minister. East Jerusalem is part of the Occupied Palestinian Territories under international law just the same as the West Bank and Gaza. This position has been confirmed repeatedly by both the International Court of Justice and Security Council resolutions.

These are the facts whether you like it or not. Israel may claim to have annexed East Jerusalem but this has no legal status whatsoever.

Larry70

and this comes as a surprise? Why exactly?

In other news it was announced by astronomers that the sun will rise in the east and set in the west for the forseeable future and the weather will continue to get warmer as summer approaches..

TGF UKIP

Anyone expecting any better or different would have been deluding themselves.

Cameron is an archetypal, One Nation, Tory patrician and as such is instinctively anti- Israel in the same way as he is instinctively anti US GOP and pro Democrat Party.

We have three main progressive social democrat parties in this country with not a hair's breadth between them on all essential matters.

Voting for the Cameron Tories and expecting a conservative government would be the ultimate self-delusion.

pete

BNP pro-israel??? HAHAHA now that's a first.

Why don't you guys go and ask the BNP members about their stance on israel?

And go and read BNP's foreign policies on their website.BNP belives iran should be allowed to acquire nukes and all the support from the West withdrawn from israel.

Anne Wotana Kaye 1

We cannot expect NuLabour to have any sympathy for Jewish citizens in Israel, when they have only scorn for British Christians. Yet another devout nurse, this time at the Royal Devon and Exeter Hospitals NHS Trust, has been denied the right to wear her crucifix. The wicked excuse being a patient 'could pull it off.' Would they stop a Moslem nurse wearing a head scarf or veil? We all know the answer is no. Unfortunately, Cameron is just a paler shade of NuLabour than Brown, and I think he would react in the same way as these NULsabour clones.

Adam B.

Edwards, when did the Old City of Jerusalem, including the Jewish and Armenian Quarters, become exclusively "Palestinian" Arab?

Is that the same "Security Council" over half of whose members are despotic tyrannies which have never been elected to anything and do not abide by any international law at all? I'm so impressed...

phil

When DC emerged I was very hopeful,now I see him as one who just waits to see what will attract votes ,and listens to those who make the most noise .I have lost trust in him ,but what can I do ,go for Brown ? Milliband ?What a lousy choice we have !-HAGUE -YES -DAVIS -MAYBE- the rest no.

phil

John Edwards
April 6th, 2010 6:16pm - quote- "I'm not a Tory"-
I do not think anybody thought you were , but we do know what you appear to be, and that is a bigot whose opinions are rejected time and time again as utterly unbalanced .You are thick skinned and stubborn but as I believe in free speech ,I suppose I must put up with you .

Truthtriumphs

William Hague is no friend of Israel.
In the debate in the House at the time of the 2006 Lebanon war in which Israel defended herself against aggression from Hezbollah, he described Israel's actions as disproportionate.
The outstanding member of the shadow cabinet is Michael Gove.
When it dawns on the Tories that Cameron is not up to it, he will surely be the next PM, and deservedly so.

Raymond in DC

It was only last week I was telling a friend that, given the way things are going, Europe would be unrecognizable in less than a generation. I was being optimistic. If the Conservatives are so feckless they have as leader someone who thinks it brave to use the phrase "Occupied East Jerusalem", they are done for. And deservedly so.

Someone send Cameron a copy of Gilder's "The Israel Test". Because right now he's failing it.

Susan

I've suddenly gained a lot of respect for David Cameron.

Adam B.

Susan, is the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem "occupied"? If so, from whom? I assume you base your admiration on something.

Raymond Douglas

Very, very worried about Cameron.Whilst there are many fine people in the Tory party , i.e. Duncan smith et al, Cameron worries the hell out of me. As a christian , I know where I stand with Labour. But with Cameron's tories ? Just do not know !

David, Thailand

How sad it must be to choose between three dangerous idiots to lead the country.