The view from America

Butterfly

I can hear Gordon Brown now:

"Just ae sort ae bigoted man ae' used tae vote Laba."

C. Gee

Who would the "native" Britons prefer to be replaced by, since they are not breeding? Muslims from Pakistan or Poles from Europe? And would their preference make the slightest difference, even supposing they can make it known?

Sam ARMSTRONG

OK so at the last count roughly 3m Muslims in Britain versus a roughly 90% indigenous population and who gets to speak their mind and the truth? Not the 90% that's for sure. How utterly mad is that? I have to say, that you can't really blame the Muslims for having a pop at us can you? I mean, we are forced to wear signs on ourselves saying 'Kick here'.

Whilst America retains a certain clarity, it is being changed fundamentally by a government that only got in on 51% of the vote, so hardly a landslide. Yet the changes that are taking place are all from the same page as the changes that have been inflicted on Britain.

Were there really any winners in the last US election?

K

Astonishing. But, regarding your signoff, is the implication that it's mildly absurd to call a Muslim a racist? Racism is alive and well in every community.

Mr. Mabutoh Afunfa

You can't say all immigrants are the same, people from Poland, Columbia or Uganda are not the same as The Bangaladesh, Pakistan or Somalia the difference is the first three don't ask you if you are Islam when they meet you but the last three ask you if you are when they meet you.

Jon_Boy

The change in america has been instigated through the universities. The same arragant drivel you always heard coming from Europeans mouths since the sixties is now being adopted by the younger generation of americans. this is mainly due to indoctrination by left wing and jihadist supporting academics within their uversity system as was and is the case in much of Europe. Too many imature western intellectuals playing at communist and too many vsiting and then stayng on so called middle eastern studies intellectuals sponsored by Saudi fronts and Muslim brotherhood fronts.

Dave M

The whole immigration issue over here has me baffled. What I can't grasp is why do people complain about immigration and then go and vote in Labour? Or if the issue is raised as William Hague tried to do, people turn away from that Party? This is why David Cameron hasn't dared challenge Labour over its immigration shambles till recently. Equally amazing is the fact the lady Gordon Brown dismissed as a bigot was actually going to vote Labour anyway.
Somehow I have this uneasy conviction Labour is going to cling onto power. Add together all the folks on incapacity who fear change, thousands of illegal immigrants, electoral postal vote fraud and so forth and the situation swings away from a Tory majority.

Sam ARMSTRONG

C. Gee - excellent post. Demographic decline must be addressed more.

I estimate that overwhelmingly the British public would want to be replaced by themselves. We wouldn't mind a little bit of Polish or Pakistani replication here, since we are a tolerant lot.

But by and large we aren't aware of demographic decline. Instead, the women of today are steered carefully clear of issues surrounding birthrate and how it affects society and guided instead towards how they can please themselves. Men are encouraged into feckless behaviour too. So families are declining.

Millions of babies are conceived each year by English women, only to be murdered on discovery of their existence so that the parents may spend a few more years in a nightclub.

It's all about awareness and perspective. There is no perspective on demographic decline because the topic is suppressed.

What would happen if it were no longer suppressed? What would happen if a government went out of its way to address this, educated Britain via TV documentaries and books and newspapers and rewarded steady and reliable 2.4 kid families?

You'd kill the issue in a generation, that's what would happen.

Dixon

A Muslim, a racist! What? Whoever would think such a thing?

Gary Wintle

A hung parliament is the only thing that can save Britain. Electoral reform to a proportional system is needed now to diffuse the powers of the corporate/banking/sectional interests.

And, frankly, I will not vote for a party that sells homeless shelters to rich property developers and calls homelessness a "law and order" problem.

The Tories tax cuts for the rich and support of (and funding by) foreign Hedge Funds and non doms are foreign and un-British) are indefensible.

To support young families, it is vital that government brings about a massive drop in house prices, but Cameron wants to raise them, showing his is the party of greed.

Kennybhoy

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Kennybhoy

Mr. Mabutoh Afunfa,

God bless you sir!

Thomas

Am I allowed to ask for clarification on what is endorsed here? Is it the assertion that economic migrants should be strictly controlled to ensure that economic resources are fairly distributed among the population? And is it therefore that religious affiliation and skin colour are not the concern?

Graeme

Will people stop mentioning the Poles and other eastern Europeans as the main source of Immigration. They are not. Immigration is the net flow and not the inflow by the internationally recognised One Year rule. The majority of Poles stay for less than one year and therefore do not qualify the the term immigrant. In the 3 years 2004 to 2006, the were over 600,000 Immigrants by the one year rule and just 33,000 were EU national; this is Eastern Europeans and Germans, Frenchmen and any other EU national. The other 95% were New Commonwealth and Other Foreign and NOT Poles. Go and research it on the Home Office Website. www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds

GaryO

I wonder what Mr Quarban's view is on immigration from Muslim countries, especially Pakistan and Bangladesh. See the way I see it is that if we are to need foreign workers, I'd much rather they be Europeans, who on the whole share our culture, religion, outlook and predominantly comprise of single healthy young men and women who do not bring with them their cultural or religious mores and put next to no burden on our social services. And best of all, when there is no work, they go home just as quietly as they came.

What we do not need are immigrants who bring with them their own baggage of values, often diagrammatically opposite to ours, many with large extended families who'll require help from social services from the word go.

I fear Mr Quarban is playing politics.

BTW, I'm not voting.

Ian Veitch

Article was penned by John F. Burns, not "Barnes." He is one of NYT's best, so you should properly credit him.

Augustus

Dave M - We all know about the miserable economic failures of the socialist states such as the USSR, Cuba, and the DDR, where most of the population lived in poverty and shortages. A ten year wait for a Trabant, and ten years hard labour if you
dare say anything about it. One would have thought that after the fall of the Iron Curtain the scales would have fallen from the Left's eyes. But nothing is further from the truth. In spite of the overwhelming proof of the failures of socialist politics the ghosts of redistribution et al are all around us. The Left simply can't let go of their Utopian rhetoric and can't let go of the power that drives the socialist bureaucratic agenda. The monster's appetite is never satisfied. Because we have been subjected for fifty years or more to this newspeak of rights, equality, and solidarity, we on the right have
found it difficult to bring our own philosophy across without sounding revengeful. That is the real problem. The Right is searching for a voice.

Bill Gibbons

Quite right, Mr. Qurban. What has this election given the UK? Five more years of Third World colonisation. Five more years of two illegal wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Five more years of bogus asylum seekers. Five more years of capitulation to the faceless bureaucrats of the EU. Five more years of NUJ -controlled media. Five more years of politically correct madness. Five more years of bankers' greed. Five more years of increasing crime gun and knife crime against a defenceless citizenry. Five more years of taxes based on the global warming hoax. Five more years nearer an Islamic state. The UK deserves what it gets. They must be mad, literally mad. I'm only too pleased I emigrated (to Canada) when I had the chance.