The Dispatches scandal

d gray

Is it true the policeman who had Channel 4 with inciting racial tension was a muslim.

James

The more Muslims there are in a non-Muslim country, the more they will be able to re-construct their homeland. Parts of Britain now resemble Pakistan or Bangladesh or Somalia. It's time to admit we made a very big mistake allowing Muslim immigration and now have to find ways of reversing it. Otherwise the horrendous problems Melanie describes above will simply get worse.

Ellien

Of course, the six figure libel damages will be coming out of the public purse.....it's not as though those officers of the West Midlands Police or the crown Prosecution Service will have their pay docked.
I agree that this is a political issue and one for Westminster - urgently. Public services are meant to be accountable, not wasting our taxes on ridiculous court cases.

Dave_G

I saw the programme and to be honest it left me seething. If i made such remarks against any ethnic group I'm sure I would have felt the whole weight of the law upon my shoulders.
The actions of the WMP certainly need to be looked at and those involved in this ridiculous episode should be held to account. But who is there in Parliament to ask the right questions? I suspect no one.

Chris

Why am I not surprised that the cuckoos in the nest get bolder, and are left to get on with their undermining of the indigenous population? Part of NuLab's client state, they are untouchables. The gloves have to come off, decisively - and soon.

mikeNZ

Melanie
you are factually incorrect.
The WM police and CPS do not pay the bills.
The British taxpayer does!!!!

heads should roll for that alone as for the corrupt behaviour biased towards Islamic males both against females but greater society.
That is even more serious.

PaulR

In my opinion, this incident is far and away the most alarming example yet in the UK of the ability of Islamic extremists to hijack public institutions and due process to silence free speech and exceptional, legitimate investigative reporting. It is almost incomrehensible how the CPS and the WMP were able to issue such a bombastic drive-by judgement of the programme in the form of that outlandish press-release that unquestionably stifled public debate at the time and diluted the impact of the programme's findings. While I am certain that heads will roll in both organisations it gives me no pleasure to see our ancient liberal institutions literally decapitating themselves in their attempts to mollify an enemy masquerading as a victim. And by all accounts, an enemy within.

Ben Elford

During the last decade, we've become inured to the perversity of the police, who are supposed to maintain order in society, turning their backs on their duty in order to pursue supposed thought crimes.

This case, though, is particularly shocking. It raises questions about whether those who head the West Midlands force should remain in office.

Austin Barry

There is a tremendous disconnect between our leaders, who appease Islamists at every opportunity, and the general public who are seething about the clear and present danger which mad multiculuralism has wrought on the UK. There will come a tipping point. As Israel goes so goes the rest of Europe.

josegarcia

it is probably too late now.

muslims dont dictate policies yes (at least officially).

but when they are 30%+ of the population(and on current demographics it will be in our lifetime),
is goodbye britain forever.
at some point in the future they wont even need british political parties to get to power.

Verity

Ben Elford - [this] "raises questions about whether those who head the West Midlands force should remain in office."

Of course they should not! Nor should they be eligible to receive their full pensions for "early retirement". And nor should they be accorded letters of "recommendation" when seeking other jobs. In other words, they should be finished by their own deeds.

Nor, having "voluntarily" sacrificed their jobs through malfeasance, should they be eligible for 100% free care under the NHS for the rest of their lives. There should be a percentage - say 25% - that they should be obliged to meet out of their own bank accounts. From now on.

field

D Gray -

No - if memory serves, he was a Hindu.

Which is pretty irrelevant. Doesn't matter who is constraining your liberty - Hindu, Muslim, Christian or Jew.

This was an utterly outrageous case and we need a full public inquiry into because this represented a very serious threat to our civil liberties. It is all very well that this case has ended with a satisfyingly grovelling apology from the Police and CPS. But journalists are not going to forget this case. Next time they come across Islamic extremism in the UK might they not be concerned that the PC PCs will be on to them like a ton of bricks?

I argued strongly against the West Midlands Police when this issue first got an airing and I must admit I did so with some trepidation not knowing whether by doing so I was committing some public offence.

Geoffrey Dron

Isn't it better, for intelligence purposes, to allow these extremist mosques/groups to stay in place and infiltrate them?

EyeSee

I see today (Friday) that the West Midlands 'Police' are to ban chin straps worn down. Apparently an Assistant Chief Constable thinks they do it to 'look hard', He is obviously ignorant, stupid, lacking in any knowledge of police matters and careless. If you view Her Majesty's bodyguard, the Horse Guards, you will see that they wear their chin straps across the bottom lip, as detested by the ACC, wearing as they do similar shaped (though plumed) helmets. I do not feel they do it to 'look hard'. It seems however, compulsory to be a cretin to reach high office in the entirely misleadingly named, police service.

Hannah

This appalling case just shows how far the balance has moved. Officialdom now works against ordinary people.

The failure to clamp down on these preachers is of itself disgraceful, but to actually end up in effect defending their actions, which is what this document amounted to, says stuff the normal standards of Western law and order.

The point is not to terrorise us and blow us up - that is the means to and end.

Seeing how weak we are only encourages the Islamists to keep pushing for more. If they let off some more bombs, then for spineless Britain it becomes a matter of us dealing with their ‘hearts and minds’ – in other words, we must be judged by the standard of the bombers and those who incite them.

An incident like this tells them they are winning – you can spew more hatred and you’ll get away with it. More hatred equals more bombs equals more grovelling equals the further destruction of our society to be replaced with an Islamic Caliphate.

Britain's response to Islamism is to hold the viper to its bosom, get bitten and then pine: "Oh, what did I do to upset you? How can I change your 'heart and mind'?"

Don’t you get it? This poison is about changing you – until you’re on your knees.

david steinberg

The mere reporting of threatening,hate filled speeches, word for word, by the press has now been defined as racism.
Every time civilians are murdered by Islamists the concern by the elites is not for the victims but for the risk of 'backlash' against the Muslim community.
Is it now far more important to cover up the activities of extremist Muslims than to deal with them directly?
And then there is all those Saudi billions in grants and endowments to oil the PR machinery that allows the British public to be led down the road to perdition.
Next time you fill up, think about the REAL cost of a litre of petrol.

Rob d

And absolutely momentous inditement of our general policy of appeasement of Islamo-facism so I searched the BBC's website for "undercover mosque" - and, you guessed it, not a peep, not a whisper, about this latest development, just all the old stuff reitterating the original now proven unfounded pusillanimous objections to it. Par for the course.

oliver

I am completely disgusted with this case, and glad that the West Midlands force got a bloody nose (even though it's at our expense).

But this is just one diseased cell of the cancer that it has exposed: the same police that don't investigate your burglary and fine you incessantly for failing to cross a yellow box junction sufficiently fast, are the same police that spend lots of your money devising green ribbons to show 'solidarity' with muslims after the 7/7 attacks; that make a show of taking their shoes off before raiding an Islamist's home, and who in the Met employed Bob Lambert to 'build partnerships' with Islamist groups such as the "Islamic Human Rights Commission" as part of the failed attempt to understand said groups and therefore adhere to the Islamists' stinking 'covenant of security'.

I won't complain to the West Midlands police website because they would then have my email. Paranoid? Maybe; but I don't trust them an inch. They don't work in my interests.

Dee Ranged

Official shameful capitulation by the police to a dreadful culture that aims to eventually subdue us.

Andy Gill

This case should become a cause celebre in the fight against Islamocreep.

Herbert Thornton

There are remarkable parallels between the behaviour of the West Midlands Police and Crown Prosecution Service in Britain and the behaviour of the various Human Rights Commissions in Canada.

It is encouraging to read that in Britain, a court has awarded damages to a victim of these organisations and that Melanie is urging that the implications of the situation be discussed in Parliament.

Whether there will be any parallels to this in Canada remains to be seen.

John Tanner

Nice to know the Spectator editorial limits for publishing comments. What was it - unflattering references to intelligence services and their recruitment policies re linguists (which is an issue on the back of this case), or Cat Stevens, aka Yousif I-word, being paraded out to sing and loll us to sleep? Or maybe just the general tone? Or perhaps just too close to the truth.

Really Spectator I had expected something better. The UK bubble is looking increasingly fragile from overseas.

Still appreciate Melanie's articles and the Spectator generally. The UK just hasn't woken up yet under BBC thought-control. Read Walid Phares "Future J-word. T-word strategies against the West" and the Hugh Kennedy book.

Do you have Intelligence service links? Let's hope you have and the PC rot hasn't sunk too deep. I still suspect it has.

field

Re thought control -

I read on Jihad Watch that CBS and Reuters among other had been censoring the "J word" (Jihad) from their reports of what Osama bin Laden said about the continuing struggle against Israel. Interested, I checked on the BBC website and lo and behold they also had censored this all important word.

It's not surprising that a programme like the Dispatches one should be targetted by the PC PCs. in a context where all references to Islam's ideology of violence are being suppressed by the main news channels.

Oliver - Paranoid? No - prudent.
Which is a very sad commentary on where we are. In the past it was the fellow travellers of totalitarian movements like Communism and Nazism who were of interest to the security services. Now it seems to be ordinary citizens and journalists.

Paul

Geoffrey Dron - "Isn't it better, for intelligence purposes, to allow these extremist mosques/groups to stay in place and infiltrate them?"

Excuse me, but I thought that was what Channel 4 did! Surely, now is the time to use the evidence from that infiltration to prosecute these vile imams, and then deport them?

Sir Winston

The important thing here is not whether the libel damages will be paid out of the public purse. What's important is that the traitors lost this battle and that the tide has turned. Now let's really take and hold the initiative until the country is completely liberated.

Geoff Miller

Dont hold your breath Melanie.

Our politicians have few people amongst them with anything other than their own personal self interest at heart. That and their cringing appeasement for the Islamic block vote and Islamic political funding.

The news about Asian policemen, council workers and "community leaders" who would deliver women escaping violence and coercion is old. Old enough for someone in Government to have stood up and demanded action. Old enough for the police to investigated and taken action.

Nobody has.

The same will go for the Despatches farce.

Any decent policeforce would have investigated with an open mind and be well upon the way to convicting/expelling the preachers of hate.

They have done nothing.

NOTHING!

I live in France - by contrast about 3 years ago a few Islamic preachers of hate were arrested in Brest and Nantes. By ministerial decree (Sarkosy as it happens) they were rounded up and expelled for France.

No appeals, no "Human Rights", no public funding of legal reresentations.

Just the "bums rush".

If France can do that so could the UK.

The question on all our lips is - why not?

What game is our Government playing?

Whatever it is it isn't in our interests.

Verity

Geoff Miller asks, quite rightly, "What game is our government playing at?"

It is the same game the toxic British socialists have been playing at for around 10 years: the destruction of Britain as a nation state and its conversion into a cog in the One Worlder machine. Look at all the unelected quangoes imposed on the taxpayer in Britain. They're all busy with the One Worlder agenda. Blair imported Muslims as a rod to control the British with. Not because we needed people to do jobs the E Europeans would have been only too delighted to do. But they needed real aliens, with an alien believe system, with special privileges, to try to break the back of British identity.

Frankly, they're winning.

C Powell

One other point worth making: it is not surprising that it is the West Midlands Police which is at the heart of this. Remember that it was the West Midlands Police which was implicated in many of the miscarriages of justice involving the Irish in the 70s and 80s. Quite why this police force should prove so spectacularly useless and damaging: undermining the rule of law in once case and free speech in this latest case I don't know.

London Calling

Rightfully so, The public apology and libel damages awarded to Channel Four’s Dispatches programme over Undercover Mosque, and Melanie’s call for implications that flow from this, should be discussed in Parliament as a matter of urgency.

I fully encourage an inside view from within the walls of our society, who pose a threat to its citizens at home and abroad.

For the Police to be above the Law, I am mystified as to when we as a nation proceeded to the point that we castrated the truth and in doing so persecuted the innocent.

More documentaries please, they are more educating than the repeats of drool that brain drain the masses into a vegetated state of unknowing.