The official indulgence of Islamism in East London

Austin Barry

Whenever and wherever our ruling elite see the green flag of Islam, it waves the white flag of surrender. Why?

Noa

"Say what you will about the BNP, prosecutors have never accused its members of involvement in the mass murder and mass rape of British citizens. Not that they would hold back if they had the chance, I am sure".

Really? And what Sir, is your evidence for that assertion?

Robbo

You certainly do go too far in your quote that BNP members would indulge in 'mass murder and mass rape of British citizens...'. I would suggest that the British people are increasingly seeing through such offensive lies like that constantly peddled by the media in this country. If you have proof of such guff please produce it. Otherwise, shut up.

Baron

Nick, good stuff, better late than never.

normanc

A good article but I too take umbrage at the willingness to caricature BNP supporters as mass-murderers and rapists straining at the leash. How many people voted BNP at the GE? A million or so?

Staggering to think there are that many aspirant Pol Pots, Hitlers and Stalins (why are all the bad guys always from the extreme left wing?) out there.

Jez

Ha.

I see what you've done there. Nice one.

St Bruno

I am sure you and some of the readers of this bit of nonsense will have seen the following. I can’t put words in other people’s mouths to make them say what I wish them to say. You have done a good job here managing to cover quite a lot of ground and mentioning lots of important names.

Pastor Joseph Goebbels said...
I am writing on behalf of the Church of Adolf Hitler (pbuh), formerly known as the Nazi Party.

Having decided to transform ourselves into a religion, we have abandoned all political ambitions, and intend to concentrate on our objectives of spiritual tranquillity, non-violent world conquest and peaceful extermination of the Jews.

Since we are now a religion rather than a political movement, we demand the following rights and privileges:

- An end to Naziphobia in the media, especially war films showing the Nazis in a bad light.

- Tax exemption for all places of worship including airfields, munitions factories, extermination camps etc.

- Destruction of all blasphemous cartoons of Adolf Hitler(pbuh) produced in the Second World War.

- An apology from the British government for the campaign of Naziphobia waged by Winston Churchill, and the hurt feelings inflicted on the Afrika Korps at El Alamein by the Naziphobic bigot Montgomery.

- An apology from the American government for the insensitivity by the raging Naziphobe Eisenhower for failing to forewarn Nazi community leaders of the D-Day landings, which caused much distress among the peaceloving Nazis occupying Northern France.

- Burning 'Mein Kampf' must become a hate crime.

- Application of our parallel legal system known as 'The Gestapo' within westerm countries.

- Affimative action to promote Nazis to high positions in the security services to maintain community cohesion.

- The occasional Blitzkrieg invasions of sovereign states should NOT be portrayed in the media as being typical of Nazis as a whole, rather they are the work of a tiny minority of extremists who have hijacked a peaceful spiritual movement.

Peace in our time and Heil Hitler!
- Pastor Joseph Goebbels

Still Thinking

"prosecutors have never accused (the BNP's) members of involvement in the mass murder and mass rape of British citizens. Not that they would hold back if they had the chance, I am sure."

Surely the author is saying prosecutors wouldn't hold back from accusing the BNP of mass murder etc -- not saying that the BNP wouldn't hold back from committing these crimes.

You don't have to support the BNP (and I certainly don't) to notice the very different way the establishment, including the media, treats these two lots of extremists. Nor to notice that the many atrocities committed and supported by islamists around the world are in a different league from a BNP or EDL punch-up.

Andrew Boff

The nastiness of politics in the subcontinent seems to be brought here by home grown commentators, not the mosque.
If Nick Griffin is wondering where he went wrong, he may be thinking that perhaps his divisive message should be tuned to the readership of the Spectator, not Barking.

In2minds

Islamophobia, BNPophobia, it's so hard to tell one from the other!

Kiran

No, Nick Cohen does not seem to be a BBC basher. I am sure that much of the liberal/left tendency apparent in our broadcast media fits comfortably with his world view. Only recently he praised Channel 4 News because it reporters were unashamed to be openly left wing.

A typical example of this would be the 23 November report by Sarah Smith (the C4 News Washington correspondent) in which Oklahoma politicians campaigning against Islamisation were dismissed by her as Islamaphobic. This, presumably, is an instance of praiseworthy reporting refreshingly free of hypocrisy that Cohen so admires.

I, on the other hand, am weary of the righteous, moralising, 'humanitarian', Liberal/Left stance of most of our intelligentsia (and inevitably our media). They see no virtue greater than their precious 'tolerance'. And yet, as Cohen must surely be aware, the Left has so much to be ashamed of in its own blood-soaked history. While this history is shrugged off I find the continual earnest tone of Left leaning TV journalists and reporters (using world events to give the public an education in Liberal/Left values) completely intolerable.

Richard of Moscow

"I am not a BBC basher. I know it has many fine reporters."
It must have changed a heck of a lot since I left the UK in 2005. Back then, BBC News was full of cretins like Matt Frei, Orla Guerin, Fergal Keane...
Can anyone name these new, fine, and honest reporters? It's a genuine question; It'd be handy to know of a reliable English language news source.

revolution

There is not another Thatcher on the horizon who would have the courage to start deporting these deluded dangerous aliens.
Even the silliest labour stooge must be able to see the hell they have created for future generations in Blair's Londonistan.

Tancred

Isn't this the same mosque that had weapons seized in the early 2000's? And, no, I am not confusing it with Finsbury park - it was pretty effectively covered up but I lived nearby at the time and heard it from police officers directly.

We are in 2010 - nearly 2011.

The Islamisation of the East End has been going on for a long time. Churches burnt/vandalised, cemeteries vandalised, vicars beaten, non-muslims attacked for "trespassing".

The British population, and the authorities, are in full retreat.

Postal voting fraud is an industry in Tower Hamlets (now Banglatown) - but hands are tied.

I saw all of this 10 years ago and left - maybe, in another 10 or 20 years time, others may see it as well.

Mercian

Future generations will come to regard Labour and the Liberal/Marxist Left as the worst traitors this country has ever known.

To compare the 1 million+ decent, patriotic, British people who voted BNP to murderers and rapists goes way too far. Where is your proof? There is none. It is pure racial hate speech.

To have openly invited millions of un-assimilable and aggressively anti-British aliens into our country who now look set to turn the native British into a minority in their own lands is an ethically/culturally genocidal crime on a massive scale.

I imagine that one day you and you ilk may be dug up and your rotting heads placed on a spike near to Tower Bridge - if any of us survive the Jihad that is....

gareth

Thanks Nick.

gareth

btw everybody - in case you haven't seen this yet, there is a link below. It's getting millions of hits on you tube - just sit back and smile. Merry Christmas!!

http://cjunk.blogspot.com/2010/11/food-court-choir.html

wrinkled weasel

Mercian has a point. It is the liberal left who have brought us to this. But we are a democracy. In the end, democracy will be our downfall, for Islam will prevail through sheer weight of numbers and postal votes.

There is truly no solution that politicians can apply. None of them have the wit or the will to allow a re-alignment hegemony. The default will be the creeping, then the actual domination of Islam. Whilst we operate in a system which criminalises people who speak out against this madness, and while members of the establishment inexplicably encourage them, Islam will march on unhindered.

What is most worrying to me is that we are even behind the fight back as Europeans. Can you imagine British politicians suggesting we ban the burka in public or the building of mosques?

It will end in war and street fighting because the appeasers will shout the loudest until they themselves have the enemy at their doors.

Jez

thanks gareth.

btw, thanks.

Jez Sullivan

Im a working class prole. Im off to live in Germany once Ive got the language sorted. The Politicians and liberal elite here hate me. They've made housing unaffordable and taxed me to death.

Damon Hager

So, BNP voters are just decent, misunderstood, working-class British patriots, are they?

What piffle. And those Germans who voted for the NSDAP in the 30s? Just misunderstood and well-meaning too, no doubt.

Gah. The BNP are nasty little fascists of the worse sort, and anyone who votes for them is an evil, knuckle-dragging degenerate.

Too many people are indulging in this "Say what you like about the BNP, but you must admit" excrement, without being taken to task.

Neither the BNP nor the EDL are compatible with *true* British values.

logdon

During the docu/drama, The Special Relationship, we saw an exultant Clinton urging Blair with the message that the future of both America and Europe would be dominated by 'centre left progressive politics'. He continued along the lines, the right will be denied influence for decades, destined for oblivion as this new wave sweeps the political narrative.

As both the US and Europe, once trapped in the headlight glare of these pumped up, self regarding charlatans returns to the sanity of self preservation, the right is now beginning a new ascendancy.

So much for Mystic Bill, who days after 9/11 proclaimed that the catastrophic terror inflicted upon New York was as direct result of the Crusades.

That was the prevailing mentality. A Millenarian Newton's Cradle where our past imperialistic transgressions are now reaping their just reward.

We bow to Islam because the left somehow feels that we owe them. All manner of convoluted distortion of facts are deployed, viz. (and talking of bowing) Obama's Cairo speech where the basis of knowledge, and technical achievement were Arab constructs to be merely aped by us European ignoramus's.

However this self defeating idiocy hasn't gone down too well in the States as the Mid Term's have shown and that trend is also gaining force in Europe.

Geert Wilders and Elisabeth Sabaditch Woolfe are now both on trial for 'hate speech' in their respective countries. They bucked the left wing system and for once told the truth. For this they are regarded as public hero's and the genie is out. Even Merkel, sensing this swing has declared multiculturalism a disaster.

Unfortunately politicians of this calibre are pretty thin on the ground, especially here in Britain as the Muslim vote gaining sycophancy still holds sway. But the worm is turning.

Islamic over reach is gaining headlines even within a 'play it safe' MSM and issues such as halal meat being forced upon us and Muslim grooming of young white females have hit front page headlines. Unthinkable only a few years back, these tales resound amongst a general public torn between true tolerance and even truer reality.

Left to the herds of bovine politicians, yes, we would dissolve in a whimper but even that cloistered class is feeling the wind of change as anger mounts. The expenses scandal did for them and it still resounds.

Lying cheats may be regarded as the terminology of collective punishment but that's what they feel out there.

Lying cheats who don't give a damn about Britain, merely their own grubby bank balances, is of another stripe and as our country suffers, rage rises.

It ain't over by a long chalk.

JRR Catstrangler

Earlier this year, Geert Wilders promised to set up a British version of his party over here. Has anybody any idea when he's actually going to do it? I reckon it could cause a real stir at the Oldham by-election and I'm available for leafleting! Come on Geert - do it!

michael

White flight, ergo ethnic cleansing before bullyings' paranoia destroys the value of your assets, continues a pace.

Drip Drip jihad , the Islamic assimilation of YOUR community makes a mockery of big society and nails the coffin lid shut of its civil predecessor ... multiculturalism.

Stuart Seacole Smith

Like Kiran (6/12, 12.49) I too am weary of left wing moralising. And as for this "I'm not a BBC basher, they've many fine reporters, but...", come on, grow some balls. When a nationally funded broadcaster habitually skews all output to the left, they all become skilled propaganda merchants, not fine reporters. I guess another example of fine BBC reporters (RofM 6/12 3.35) would be that oaf Jeremy Bowen.

N. Cohen's paragraph on accusations of rape etc was ambiguously and poorly written. I assume it referred to BNP prosecutors not holding back on accusing the BNP of such if the chance arose, but it could also be meant as assuming the BNP would do it given a chance, who knows.

Having said all that, the thrust of the article is very welcome. Cowardly kowtowing to islamofascism seems to have become a gruesome part of everyday life for mainstream politicians, and the horrible little toe-rags need to be called out on it every time they do it.

Jez

@ Damon Hager.

I'm afraid that's a weak reply (as an opinion).

If there are 1 million voters of any political party (in any election) then there is a problem / agenda that should be addressed- by the mainstream first at least.

Calling them names isn't even close to an acceptable counter- unless you're from the official Far-Left of course.

You mix voters 'of' the BNP and the BNP 'itself' in your post also. Again sloppy.

@ Nick Cohen,

There's a problem. This problem (for you and me) is that people aren't getting along here in the UK in the way they should.

Islam is becoming a hostile and dominant factor in every UK city. In London mass African, Eastern European, Middle Eastern immigration is also a massive factor right now.

The white working class are being obliterated from these areas through a thing called 'colonisation' and this triggers a thing called 'white flight'.

In these scenario's an area goes through a huge trauma- and there's a desperate panic toward the end.

They vote for the BNP.

At this time the ratio will be approximately 25% new comers 75% indiginous. The adjacent district (that will have burst it's borders) will be ethnically dominated by non indiginous communities.

The problem is; the more affluent whites / mix race Brits will be off (and away) before this even becomes an issue for their children / teenagers. The ones left behind will be pretty easy going and believe the media garbage of how fulfilling / diverse / trendy this immigration-cultural oblivon is and most probably be not politicaly motivated (unless there is a major confict of communities going on). The ones that are politically aware (and vote BNP) will now be about 30% of the voting electorate.

The 25% of the ethnic population will be approximately 30% of the voting electorate.

The other 40% will be (in a dying working class area) old guard labour / lib dem.

There will be an unprecedented onslaught against the BNP in the mass and local media- that puts anyone even saying they'd vote for the BNP in immediate danger from thuggish sections of the ethnic minority population.

Then the BNP lose.

Then the BNP go.

Then the area goes.

Like in Tower Hamlets.

But it's still a Labour seat- so job done media, Westminster and establishment elites.

And then when the dust settles there's more stories in the papers, TV that we need more immigration, the host culture is yet again demonised and undermined.

And them someone like you Nick, inside your media bubble realises.

And then starts off every risky peice about this disaster with comparing BNP (whether voters, supporters or members) to mass murderers and rapists?

The working class have been ripped to shreds by your industry Nick.

When the same phenomenon that is decimating the working class, Islam is now looking up and fixing its eyes on wider targets (because it has been allowed to grow to such an extent) you still cannot bear to even relate with the people at the bottom of the pile.

These are same people that you and your establishment mainstream have collectively demonised for the last 4 decades; the British working class.

Enjoy.

Patricia Shaw

NC - can you categorically confirm for those curious to know, that hatred, intolerance and racism are not part and parcel of what goes on in our more fervent synagogues?

organic cheeseboard

"i am not a BBC basher" -

given that you use your TV column in standpoint to launch anti-BBC diatribes at least once every two months, and given that you've now spent 2 of your not-very-many blog posts on here attacking the BBC, i think the evidence speaks for itself.

John David Barnett

The BNP lost all their seats in Dagenham.

logdon

"If you know anything about historical Islam you will know that Muslim immigrants mainly colonize, conquer, convert, and/or take over all the countries where they live and that historically, they have been intolerant towards any and all other religions, as well as towards free thought."

Phyllis Chesler

http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/12/06/jihad-chic-imam-rauf%E2%80%99s-gift-of-reconciliation/print/

logdon

Phyllis Chesler, no slouch on matters Islamic has this to say. Little by little the message is getting out.

'The propaganda campaign in favor of Islam is intense, subtle, clever, elegant, vulgar, massively well-funded, and incredibly well coordinated, synchronous, just like suicide bombings often are.

This �war by other means� is even more important, partly because it continues to �gentle� the West into submission by misinforming the public and partly because this kind of stealth warfare remains curiously and stubbornly below the radar of our intelligentsia and our media.

Let me say, as I always do, that most Muslims are not terrorists and are, themselves, in the clutches of very corrupt and evil leaders who are either old-fashioned tyrants or comprise a new form of totalitarian jihad. Some of the bravest Muslims in the world have been murdered by Muslim tyrants and terrorists, are sitting in Muslim jails, or are living in exile. However, the majority of Muslims have either been brainwashed or simply do not wish to risk their lives or those of their families by taking a stand against Islamic imperialism, colonialism, and intolerance.

They are like the Germans, Austrians, Poles, who did not wish to die in an attempt to assassinate Hitler or his henchmen; or, like many Europeans, who profited, personally, financially, from the Nazi extermination programs aimed at the mentally ill and retarded, the gypsies, the homosexuals, the �politicals,� and above all, the Jews.'.....

'If you know anything about historical Islam you will know that Muslim immigrants mainly colonize, conquer, convert, and/or take over all the countries where they live and that historically, they have been intolerant towards any and all other religions, as well as towards free thought.'

newsrealblog.com/2010/12/06/jihad-chic-imam-rauf%E2%80%99s-gift-of-reconciliation/print/

logdon

Apologies. The first post seemed locked into eternal oblivion so I posted a more comprehensive second one.

PS Does anyone know why a wp document when pasted turns gaps into those odd question marks?

Vernon Atkinson

Noa. "Really?And what sir is your evidence for that assertion?

It is not an assertion it is fact if you wish to contract that then lets's have the evidence if you think you have any.

Vernon.

Cow Poke

The soft totalitarianism of the liberal left - only a question of time before the Islamic wind hardens it into something more unpleasant.

David Quint

@Patricia Shaw, December 7th, 2010 11:24am. According to Wikipedia, Nick Cohen calls himself a Jewish atheist, and a Jewish grandfather and father would not per se make him Jewish by orthodox Jewish criteria. So I don't see why you think he is qualified to give the categorical confirmation you seek and I suggest you carry out your own research.

Patricia Shaw

Thank you Q.

Mel and Josh'll know.

Sam

@@revolution - Thatcher???

I am sure if you dig deep enough, you'll find that extremists such as Omar Bakri and his ilk were welcomed into UK (on political asylum) during Thatcher's reign.

The muslim community's complaints about them brainwashing muslim youths fell on deaf ears.

Perhaps it was overlooked because they were on "our" side against the Russian invasion of Afghanistan.

Its not just the white British suffering but also the majority of the Muslim community.

Alas, we reap what we sow.

DJKing

@Patricia Shaw, December 7th, 2010 11:24am.
Even in the most fervant synagogues you will not find anything anti-establishment or any world domination message that you hear in the Mosques. Did you even know that in all Jewish functions (weddings, bar-mitzva's etc) a prayer is read out blessing the Queeen and wishing her a long reign? I doubt there is another religion that does this.

Andy Gill

Terrific article. The British establishment has become thoroughly dhimmified. The left have become Quislings, and the intellectuals have their pointy heads stuck firmly up their ample arses.

Only the British working class, who see what is happening on the streets, understand that IslamoCreep threatens to transform this country into a heaving shit-hole of religious and racial conflict.