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Thursday, 12th November 2009

Never meet your enemies; you might end up liking them. I’ve just got back from The Spectator Parliamentarian of the Year awards and the buggers had sat me next to James Purnell, about whom I was a bit snippy in print not so long ago. It was the usual measured, level-headed stuff about him being an agent of Satan, whore of the anti-christ etc. The problem I have with Purnell is not just his Blairite politics, but his former incarnation as a wonk for John Birt at the BBC, working in the fabulously hopeless corporate centre. I think I may have spewed all this out a while back in the mag; certainly I remember feeling that I might have made a wrong call when he resigned his office in an annoyingly dignified and selfless manner. “But I bet he’s still a bastard,” I consoled myself, then. But I hadn’t met him. It’s incredibly depressing to report that he was excellent company and made the best speech of the day – self-deprecating, dry and funny. I suppose he could still be an agent of Satan. I suppose that’s what Satan wouldn’t do, isn’t it – make his Legions likeable?

I was once very rude about Edwina Currie in print, about her book and the bit where she said how happy she was to wake up after a night with John Major feeling “warm and sticky”. I think I said that this was the most disgusting thing I had ever heard from anyone. A few days later I turned up to do a tv politics programme and discovered, upon arriving, that it was presented by Ms Currie. I prayed to God she hadn’t read my piece and clearly she hadn’t, because she was the embodiment of absolute charm for the two hours we were together. When I was about to leave she approached me with a big warm smile, held out her hand and then suddenly withdrew it, saying: “Oops, better not. Still sticky.” Classy.

Harriet Harman was also at the awards today, of course. And Mandelson. I kept well away, just in case.
 


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ed hall

November 12th, 2009 10:01pm

No Celtic fans there I trust ?

Lungfish

November 13th, 2009 12:24am

stunned silence

Fearless Frank

November 13th, 2009 12:41am

Next time bring a long spoon.

Paul B

November 13th, 2009 6:10am

Any Celtic Bhoys there?

EyeSee

November 13th, 2009 8:47am

You are too wide with your ideas of Satan's hordes Rod. It doesn't, for instance, extend to whoever Millwall happen to be playing at any given time. People can be stupid/unpleasant because they believe in the politics of harm (for others of course) but not call Hades homes. However, it is undoubted that Harman and Mandelson have more than a whiff of sulphur about them. And Tont Blair? Does the phrase "trust in me" ring any bells?

James Murphy

November 13th, 2009 9:31am

Worryingly true Rod, - no doubt a shadowy part of each of us depends on our enemies for a sense of self-righteousness. After all, as a species, we do so love to hate. Conversely, to find one likes one's enemies in the flesh, despite their principles, rather shakes the moral ground beneath one's feet. - Your piece also reminds me of Jimmy Durante's ludicrously likable saying, to wit: 'I never met a man I didn't like' - and also William Blake's troubling dictum that 'I find that even the worst men one comes across usually have some saving grace..' Of course, one wouldn't need to extend this generous logic as far as Harperson...

Ray

November 13th, 2009 9:36am

One of the most 'annoying' things about Lady Thatcher that must have grated her legion of detractors was the fact that in her personal (as opposed to her political) dealings with her colleagues she was tenderness and concern personified.

No wonder the BBC had such an issue with portraying her crying over the deaths of British servicemen in the Falklands.

rod liddle

November 13th, 2009 10:09am

Eye - yes, you're right about that, and it does extend to anyone Millwall might be playing. I find it comforting to think that people who have rotten ideas must themselves be rotten, but this is obviously a naive mistake.

Iolanthe Seacole

November 13th, 2009 11:41am

Were you pissed, Rod? You know, all beer googles and stuff. Just take a quick squizz at the comments made by readers about these awards on Coffee House. Enough to sober one up pretty quickly hey?

Bill Henderson

November 13th, 2009 11:41am

"I kept well away, just in case."

Real Wall wouldn't!!

rod liddle

November 13th, 2009 12:18pm

cheers Bill...............

Matthew Wilson

November 13th, 2009 1:11pm

Speaking of Millwall, Rod, have you ever rubbed shoulders with David Haye down the New Den?

Haldane

November 13th, 2009 1:18pm

Just re-read his resignation letter calling for stonger regulation and an 'active' state. Even on his depature he was mouthing the same old dangerous statist claptrap. that has done so much to destroy our liberty, our way of life and the moral and intellectual standards of this country. Jo Stalin could be charming and Rupert is so cuddly!

rod liddle

November 13th, 2009 1:54pm

I'm sort of in favour of statist claptrap, by and large.

No, never seen haye down The Den, except for the Wimbledon game.

workie Arctic Roll ticket

November 13th, 2009 2:18pm

Its easy to be charming (sure it wasnt smugness?) when you know that even if your party isnt in Govt, society will still be run in the same statist over regulated manner (nods to Haldane).

Btw, did the Speccy dinner have Arctic Roll for pud? It's being reborn and I'm sure cutting edge Speccy caterers are aware...

Baron Pipin II

November 13th, 2009 2:18pm

The immortal gullibility of the human nature, what else; you share a pint with the guy again, and you rejoin the red flag brigade in no time. For me, anyone who’s idolised by screaming hordes of whatever age or colour warrants a permanent place on a sell list. No exceptions.

workie ticket

November 13th, 2009 2:23pm

..its not The Den...you left The Den years ago. New Den it is although I must say I preferred the away accomodation at the old place - a proper prison-like hate fest..marvellous.

Lungfish

November 13th, 2009 3:43pm

Funnily enough I just met Quentin Davies, he was looking for a bloke over the road from me. Didn't talk politics but he had florid features and a friendly manner, still won't be voting for the turncoat though!

James Murphy

November 13th, 2009 3:54pm

'I'm sort of in favour of statist claptrap, by and large.' Oh Rod, you're such a contradiction, you naughty boy! This, I suspect, is a luxury you can afford...

Nick Peters

November 13th, 2009 6:32pm

James Murphy: "Your piece also reminds me of Jimmy Durante's ludicrously likable saying, to wit: 'I never met a man I didn't like' - "

Actually this quote was from Will Rogers, the cowboy philosopher. It is inscribed on his tomb in Claremore, Oklahoma. I even own a deliciously bad-taste highball glass bearing this information and a terrible picture of the tomb. How I got hold of it....another story.

James Murphy

November 13th, 2009 7:05pm

'Another story' Nick Peters, which it behoves you most certainly to tell! If not here, then on the coffee-house wall...

David Ossitt

November 13th, 2009 7:36pm

Rod Liddle.

“I suppose he could still be an agent of Satan. I suppose that’s what Satan wouldn't do, isn’t it – make his Legions likeable?”

Rod you had been wined and dined; you were flattered to be in such august company, you had your head turned by the glamour and like a hormonal teenage girl you let the naughty man almost seduce you.

You were right the first time with your, “But I bet he’s still a bastard,” think yourself lucky that you did not go the whole way with this nasty man and that you escaped still chaste and pure and before he could get into your frilly knickers.

You have been lucky escape with your honour; as it were, intact.

Juan Kerr

November 13th, 2009 11:03pm

OK Rodders we get the message: underneath all the swagger and vitriol you're just a big soft toleration monkey.

Rod Liddle

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