Rod Liddle: Enemy Of The People

Wily Seatrout Cole

I hope you ARE going to be editor of the Indy. About the only thing to look forward in these dull depressing days. Then I could cancel my subscription to the loathsome shite Times, having already dispensed with the loathsome shite Telegraph and Guardians in the past.

Dixon

Reminds me that a coprophagist MP is one that likes to table a motion. In a restaurant.

At first I thought you had really made it big-time! Better than even getting a fatwa issued calling for ones death. Thats an ambition of mine but not something so easily achieved. The editor opf jawareport is continually begging for one but it never comes.

Now, having read about the pathetic detail of this parliamentary stool I realise its not such a big achievement after all. I mean, anyone could get an EDM moved against them by THAT woman, not least her dietician if she ever looks in a mirror.

All in all, not bad, but not much better than the character assassination once performed upon me by the Sunday Mirror.

Lady Loudmouth

Gratifying to learn that Paul Flynn is so cavalier with his signature. And you want a drink with him??

Old Slaughter

The Telegraph truly jumped the shark when they covered John Mortimer's funeral by printing a front page massive blow up of his very fit but tearful granddaughter.

Even if she had a publisist and was in on it, The Telegraph is now like the Daily Sport in dark glasses.

John Steadman

I feel I must comment on your description of Diane Abbott as a "self-publicising, hypocritical pantomime dame"!
Pretty good.

Oxy Seacole Moron

Every Day its Moron?

Oxymoron that is.

Diane Abbott MP

Actually no EDM about you has been tabled. Surely you should have checked the order paper before you wrote this post? You are going to have to show a little more regard for accuracy if you really want to edit a national newspaper.

Harry Paget Flashman

Paul Flynn sounds like a hoot.

More power to your elbow with regards to the Independent, with you at the reins I might even start reading it. Anything would be better right now than the complete mess a bunch of sub-standard, lefty (and Celtic supporting - you might appreciate that)Jock journalists have made of the Scottish edition of the Times we have to endure up here.

Lady LM

Er........whoops! The pantomime dame est arrive

Joe Strummer

Diane Abbott MP - An MP demanding accuracy and integrity ? Oh dear. Are MP's expenses as accurate and precise as they should be ? No, don't bother answering here, just have an EDM about the issue instead.

Occasional Ostrich

Oh, dear Rod.
Why do I get the impression that somebody ELSE hasn't read your article before posting here?

porkbelly

@Diane Abbott - then what did you ask Paul Flynn to sign? The bar tab?

rod liddle

I spoke to your colleague, Abbott. And I said that it had not got through the table office, which is what I was told.
So are you saying you didn't write one? Are you saying you didn't ask Mr Flynn to sign it? Are you saying it wasn't laid before the table office?

Going to do something useful with your life and sign Harry's?

Dixon

I stopped reading the Indy when "Alex" moved to the Telegraph. I then stopped reading the print Telegraph when "Alex" became boring and repetitive. I then stopped reading the Telegraph online when they exhibited their utter lack of a spine by ceasing most pointedly to publish anything by Mark Steyn. Appalling treatment of one of the few journalists of integrity in the Western World.

If they do get a Liddle bit better, I promise I will take another look inside the Independent, online version anyway.

This is the thing. In the 21st Century what are newspapers good for? Apart from wiping ones rectum after a good EDM.

David Lindsay

Rod Liddle's editorship of a national daily newspaper would give a voice to the alliance of the traditional Right and the traditional Left against the neoconservative war agenda and its assaults on liberty at home, including, with Alexander Lebedev as proprietor, against any new Cold War with Russia.

A voice to the socially and culturally conservative, strongly patriotic tendencies within the British Left's traditional electoral base.

A voice to those who recognise that we cannot deliver the welfare provisions and the other public services that our people have rightly come to expect unless we know how many people there are in this country, unless we control immigration properly, and unless we insist that everyone use spoken and written English to the necessary level.

A voice to those who refuse to allow climate change to be used as an excuse to destroy or prevent secure employment, to drive down wages or working conditions, to arrest economic development around the world, to forbid the working classes and non-white people from having children, to inflate the fuel prices that always hit the poor hardest, or to restrict either travel opportunities or a full diet to the rich.

And a voice to many, many more.

I therefore look forward to that editorship at the earliest opportunity.

Craig Strachan

So no interest in editing the Independent, then?

wrinkled weasel

I liked the "enemy of the people" tag.
It suits you.

I have, however, decided to spare you the Ceaucescu treatment when we, the people, finally take control of the United Kingdom; you shall be kept in a museum (quite humanely), along with Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, YAB, a selection of promiscuous homosexuals from the BBC, Dawn Primarolo, David Lammy and Jonathan Ross as examples of late 21st Century Nihilism taken to its logical conclusion.

We will not insist that children visit the exhibits - this will be left to the discretion of each individual school, but pupils will be required to demonstrate an awareness of the dangers of getting into positions of authority by merely agreeing with the zeitgeist.

Jez

It's a shame the sixteen year old Rod Liddle couldn't see yourself now.

I think he'd be very impressed at the anti-establishment notoriety... but probably not the 'real world' say it how is stylee that's almost got an act of Parliament banning you from stuff.

Face facts- if you hadn't pushed it to the limit then you wouldn't have had the Guardian writing that origional story in the first place.

Catch 22.

(you could always claim asylum somewhere due to persecution of conscience- Sangette maybe?)

;)

Ken

Interesting. No one has yet called you racist for the "fundamentalist African savagery.." phrase.

Are you losing your touch?

Beer Moth

Is this what our MPs busy themselves with - the manipulation of people's careers and the restriction of free speech?

Baron

If you get it, the editorship of the Indy may turn out to be your graveyard, I still reckon. The Guardinista loonies will not let go until they bury you. Never underestimate the power of heart warming fanaticism.

If anyone can breathe even a droplet of a difference into the lookalike mainstream media, you it is. No argument about it.

Instead of giving us the number of the EDM to stop you being the editor, tell us what we can do to back your getting the post. How about a petition on the Number 10 blog in support of it? Does anyone know how to set itt up?

Noa Zrk

I will be writing to my MP requesting that he raise an EDM (if we haven't already sold it to the French) against Marcious Prigsbollocks being allowed to give weather forecasts without a licence, or having contributed to an indigent MP's funds, or simply mis-leading the great unwashed.
Failing which perhaps I can raise the matter with this chap Flynn, before the price of ale goes up.
On balance though perhaps I should seek an EDM protesting against Ms Abbott sitting too closely to that nice Mr Portillo on the sofa. People will talk if it continues, or can we just petition the BBC for a bigger sofa?
Oh and by the way Rod, good luck with the interview, hopefully there'll be one less to claim tax credits; unless that is, as I suspect, the Indy doesn't pay a living wage and you continue to have to moonlight at the Speccie to be able to buy a nostalgic copy of the Socialist Worker.

Ricky

You are a top guy Liddle and an excellent journalist. Why on earth do you want to save the dreadful Not So Independent?

GaryO

Folks might be interested in this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2010/jan/20/rod-liddle-paul-flynn

It really is funny how people take your rants seriously! They don't know that you have many personalities lurking in that head of yours. A different one for us here, a different one for BBC interviews and again a different one for Sunday Times and I'm sure you'll have a different one for Indy.

I have never even seen the Independent, let along taken the trouble of reading it. But if you get the job, I might just take a peek - promise.

Jez

One more step closer!

http://www.editorsweblog.org/

This is honestley too good to be true!

Seriously- keep your head down and see it to the finish line!

David Ossitt

“And also lock up homosexuals for life if they so much as touch one another in a manner which could be construed as homosexual. This is fundamentalist African savagery”

Come on Rod, we can’t have you calling some Ugandan Muslim fundamentalist nutcases, African savages, or can we?

Possibly you might extend that to the Ugandan witch doctors; who are, even now using young children’s body parts to help their supposed magic, and surely savage is a true description of those who frequent these witch doctors, you might even go further and agree that those rich Ugandans who would not dream of putting money into a major building without first ensuring a live body or three are interred beneath, are as savage as the next man.

Dixon

David Lindsay, I agree with much of what you say but not the anti-war rhetoric, especially the "new cold war" line. After all, its the Russians who arfe engaged in a comprehensive modernisation of their nuclear weapons inventory. noone else. Whilst the Russians are steadily introducing new land-mobile ICBMs, submarine launched ballistic missiles, bombers and air launched nuclear weapons, the Americans have plans to develop none! In fact, their most up to date ICBMs were all retired and scrapped twenty years ago. Their main ICBM force id forty years old. So who really, if anybody, is rattling their sabres?

Dixon

So I take it, David Ossit, you think they should be allowed to get on with al these things without condemnation.If you cannot condemn anything without condemning everything that ultimately means you condemn nothing, which is a passive endorsement.

What a wally!

Wilhelm

Diane Abot MP

What does the MP stand for ?

Monstrous Pomposity or Malevolent
Pretentiouness ?

Which is it sweetheart ? and tell the truth ?

David Ossitt

Dixon

“So I take it, David Ossit,[sic] you think they should be allowed to get on with al these things without condemnation.”

Don’t be daft; I was being ironic, of course I condemn it.

Paul Carlin

Do, please, take this position if it becomes available. I'd look forward to your Editorials on the Unacceptable (and frankly repulsive) Face of African savagery.

Austin Barry

Surely only Mark Oaten is the resident expert on EDM.

David Alexander

Austin Barry

That would be Early Day Movements.

Mrs.Josephine Hyde-Hartley

I trust my M.P. will be supporting this EDM no.575 - without my needing to ask. But what I'm really wondering about is whether an editor of a newspaper can do anything to help make sure on-line newspages such as this Spectator site which kindly enables absolutely anybody to comment spontaneously and freely without being "registered" don't disappear.

From one's current position it seems there are fewer and fewer on-line comment facilities which enable people to freely join in the general dialogue. The Independent on-line used to let us comment freely but like the Timesonline it has altered the way its comment facility works. Surely this must be a great loss one way and another.

Mrs.Josephine Hyde-Hartley

I'm just testing this..

Mrs.Josephine Hyde-Hartley

I hope you get the last two comments I sent because I didn't "copy" them and now I can't be bothered to try and remember what I wrote in them. Honestly..

Tron

You have got to feel sorry for Diane Abbott. She spent years hating Tony Blair and waiting for Gordon Brown to save the Labour Party. We all know how that turned out.
Then she got all excited about Obama only to find out he was all talk, just like Blair.
Only the Labour Party and the BBC would give her the money to send her son to Private School.

Lee Jakeman

Labour politicians are used to signing things without reading them. The International Declaration of Human Rights and the Lisbon Treaty come readily to mind.

Why don't you mischievously raise an EDM calling for a posthumous pardon of Adolf Hitler (you could say that he had an unhappy childhood, was abused etc.) - and then sit back and see if any Labour MP's sign it?

paulg

Well it appears to me that you would be the most notorious editor in the country, which can only be good news for a small dying on its feet liberal newspaper.

The Russian who is acquiring the newspaper will have a commitment to liberalism that will probably be only skin deep, hence the notoriety of the political establishment trying to ban you from getting a job that you have not been offered to a newspaper that he does not own. Is something of a plus point!

It really is a pointless exercise arguing with Diana Abbott you can never win against a woman who has set her mind against you. Far better to get the EDM proposed, infer that she wants you hanged, thus getting the liberals on your side, then invite her out for a drink. Surely a notorious old rake like yourself could talk her round in the end.

Ray

"The Spice Valley of Lambourn for Chicken Pathia and nan bread".

Isn't that one of the 'benefits of multiculturalism' that you were blogging about the other day, Rod?

fourdayswisdom

Thanks, Rod, for not shirking from the nauseating African-homosexual thing. Please also let rip, expletives included, on witch-burning in Kenya. When I first read about this, I thought it was a sick spoof. Unfortunately it is not--google the repulsive truth

jon ryan

Ricky asks:
"You are a top guy Liddle and an excellent journalist. Why on earth do you want to save the dreadful Not So Independent?"

Nothing to do with the £520,000 salary is it Rod?

rod liddle

Look, much as I enjoy talking about myself, this blog was really meant to be about the vile persecution of homosexuals in Uganda and what we can do about it..............

Jez

Mrs.Josephine Hyde-Hartley,

"The Independent on-line used to let us comment freely but like the Timesonline it has altered the way its comment facility works. Surely this must be a great loss one way and another."

Ha. I know what you mean. I suspect my comments once sent to 'Timesonline' now spontaneously combust on entry! :))

@ jon ryan / ricky,

Two words; 'wider' & 'picture'.

An absolutely (as an opinion) utterly liberal leftist / quasi Marxist, corrupted to the core media industry has, since the early eighties had a complete monopoly. (Remember that Spectator award ceremony last month? Soz Fraze)

I used to watch a programme when i was 15ish on BB2 called 'Reportage'.

Agi-prop?

Strewth, there were more watered down articles in Pravda at the time. The sort of post University graduates that were given this specific 'slot' (and similar ones like this) are now grown-up... and their ideology is still the same but presently more 'mainstream friendly'- and now they're in influencial positions in the media / politics etc.

The problem is that the country in 2010 is really looking for a narrative from the media to tell it how it is without a knee jerk swing to Attilla the Hun / Vlad the Impaler sort of thing.

*That's* why there's a 4000 strong liberal-left facebook page 'wailing on' about this and that's why several 'flyers' have even abused the core of British democracy to bring this up in- er, Westminster?!

That is how bad the system has become.

Just hang in there Rod. If this doesn't happen, then you've smoked out the illiberal left and exposed them for what they really are.

Peace out.

Micky D

Anyone bothered about whether Rod becomes editor of The Indy or not ...needs to get a life ..That means you Mr Hundal most of all.

Jez

Ladies and gentlemen, i rest my case;

http://www.newstatesman.com/uk-politics/2010/01/rod-liddle-class-middle-pinter

"Would you have Rod Liddle, the ubiquitous columnist and former editor of Radio 4's Today, in your house? Would you leave him alone with your daughters?"

Useful link here;

www.libellawyer4u@suethabastard.co.uk

or

http://www.urban75.org/info/libel.html

"There are two versions of defamation, libel and slander. Libel is when the defamation is written down (including email, bulletin boards and websites), and slander is when the incident relates to words spoken."

Wilhelm

Rod

Here's a bit of advice from an old friend. Once you get the job of editor in chief of the independent,

Fire everyone.

The first firing should be Yasmin Ali Baba Brown and get it filmed and stick it on YouTube , it'll get a million hits. Im just being helpful.

Wilhelm

''And also lock up homosexuals for life if they so much as touch one another. This is fundamentalist African savagery.''

There is nothing wrong with this statment.
It aint African hospitality now is it ?

In the liberal race always trumps women and gay people.

Adam

Paul Flynn wastes taxpayer's money signing expensive EDMs he doesn't even read.
Harry Cohen had absolutely appalling expense claims and can't be taken seriously at all.
The left wing of the PLP are Neo-Imperialists.
Diane Abbott went to Cambridge University.
It is nice to know that MPs want to guide Rod Liddle's career.

David Short

How about an EDM calling on all Labour MPs who purport to be socialists not to send their children to fee-paying schools, particularly if they use taxpayers' money to afford to do so. The BBC licence fee is now officially called a tax and a certain MP is given dollops of it to appear on a very boring late night political programme hosted by another outsider who is sucking on the teat of the BBC licence-payer.

Alexandrovich

Blimey Jez, the Statesman doesn't even realise that being 'mad, bad and dangerous to know' is a compliment to most of us on here!

Fergus Pickering

Rod, re what the black savages of Uganda are doing to homosexuals. There's sweet Fanny Adams we can do about it?

Old Slaughter

Ugandan discussions in Uganda?

Edwin Greenwood

Ken January 20th, 2010 5:31pm, wrote:

Interesting. No one has yet called you racist for the "fundamentalist African savagery.." phrase.

Are you losing your touch?

---
But it does get a disapproving mensh on Pickled Politics, though:
< http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/7236#comment-191403 >

Mike

Get rid of Boyd Tomkin and his useless book reviewers too when you get there.

EyeSee

In response to Mr Liddle's plea; John Lennon said in song once 'stop the killing, do it now' and I think that is what we should be saying. The UN (Useless Naturally) was supposed to sort out a baseline of acceptable behaviour by nations I thought? Killing homosexuals because they are homosexual is wrong, quite clearly. We may refuse to debate issues such as homosexuality in this country too, but for your view to include murder? I don't think so. To be clear, I think our society's reaction to the occurance of homosexuality is wrong, but it exists and as much as the general population they are probably a pretty decent bunch. You might as well decide to murder people who like the colour red.

DeeJay

What do we do about the appalling attitude towards gays in Uganda and, indeed, the rest of Africa? You might have thought that there were liberals in the christian churches that would be sympathetic, but alas, I fear many are just as bigoted as the general population. But its not just gays, Rod, I know a women who has to smuggle thousands of condoms into Uganda every few weeks because there is such a shortage locally. Unfortunately, she sometimes has to explain Ugandan customs why she needs 25,000 packets for a two week holiday. Get off Diane Abbot's back...its a bit like shooting fish in a barrel...concentrate on the hyprocrisy spouting forth from you own Dear Melanie!

Andy Gill

If you get the job, I hope your first act will be to fire Robert Fiske.

Tiberius

Can't do anything about African savages etc. unless there's oil.

David Ossitt

Wilhelm.

“The first firing should be Yasmin Ali Baba Brown”

Oh yes please; tar and feathering and/or flogging first though.

radgie gadgie

The Indy has Fiske AND Yasmin Ali Mentary Brown? So thats why I stopped reading it.

National Front Disco

If the Independent really wants to live up to its name, it must appoint Rod Liddle-a true independent-to be its editor in chief. God bless you Liddle.

Anne Wotana Kaye 1

Diane Abbtt MP: Sorry you cannot go to the ball as the pantomime queen. That role is saved for Lord Mandelson. If you are a good girl, ansd roll your eyes upwards, as you do on Thursday evenings on TV, we will let you be the pumpkin in Cinderella.

Baron

You taking any lessons in Russian, Liddle?

if need any help, give us a shout, parniska.

daniel maris

I'd certainly be prepared to give up the Telegraph - especially these days since it seems to have gone squidgy on so much except for public sector bashing.

It woudl be great to have Rod make the Independent what it originally claimed to be: an organ of free thought.

I gave up the Guardian for its support of undemocratic leftism, the Independent for its absurd policy of pretending the Royals weren't important (this when the monarchy was in virtual meltdown), and the Times for sucking up to the Chinese dictatorship so Murdoch could extend his media empire there.

I'm a floating reader!

Jeremy Hayes

A would-be national newspaper editor who begins an article with "There's a few...."

Call me old-fashioned, but I'd have thought that being able to use correct English might have been part of the job description.

Alexandrovich

Baron, if you do give Rod any help, brush up on your transliteration parnishka.

daniel maris

Ok - just to make sure Rod doesn't get the job. Who should his dream team be:

1. Women's Editor

2. Chief Political Editor

3. Columnist.

4. Financial correspondent.

5. Cartoonist.

6. Sports Editor.

And for a bonus point - what should his first leader be about?

Baron

Alexandrovich @ 1.23:

thought I could show off, and you have to tell the world the serimyazhnuyu truth. OK, help please. How do you do this transliteration thing, then.

Anyway, you blogging from Russia? Putin knows about it? Happy with it?

James Murphy

Rod, having previously won the award as one of your stupidest and bitterest critics (now reformed) - I feel I am ideally suited for any sinecure you may wish to offer me on your newspaper, 'The Independent', ("it never was, were you?"). For as little as fifty grand p.a. I will pen a vicious weekly column calumniating whomever and whatever I please for the hell of it. I will also guarantee to do no research (facts are for losers), and can confirm that I am barely computer literate, having no knowledge whatsoever of Microsoft Spreadsheet Office 2010. I do, however, vigorously support the rights of consenting adults to fiddle with each other's bits as they see willing, regardless of colour, creed, or gender - whether in Uganda or Yeovil. - I am available for interview at your convenience. SAE and photo enclosed.

Baron

daniel maris @ 2.40:

I don’t see your idea in the negative at al. On the contrary, I believe that we could actually help Liddle getting the job, you know.

The selection of his team must reflect the diversity of our society drawing on the strengths of the many cultures attracted to this sunny, generous and well-governed country and even those from without our borders, but ensuring that locally natured talents are also represented, I reckon.

Women’s editor: Jeremy Clarkson, Bernard Manning ain’t available; Chief Political Editor: Nick Griffin or Ken Dodd, if the latter still with us, and the former doing time; Columnists: Robert Mugabe, col Gaddafi and Ahmadinejad, all unpaid; Financial correspondent: Bernard Madoff (the American must let him out, we have an extradition treaty, don’t we?); Cartoonist: Tracy Emin, but only when drunk; Sports Editor: Maradonna, an absolute must; Environment editor: Gore or George Monbiot, if Al’s too expensive, which he must be by now.

Liddle’s first leader should be either about breeding pigeons or knitting. The latter should be preferred what with the cold weather, snow and stuff. It may also help his career in the years to come.

Malcolm

Hey, monkeymfc, would you describe the 11 and 12 yr old sadists in the news at the moment as say, "human filth"? And their actions as say, "European savagery" inherited from their imperial & biological antecedents? Or will you default to the same instinctive denial which let all the child protection agencies involved allow these boys to fully manifest their bred in, and innate evil?

What's really troubling here is that there is a whole generation of babies (bcoz that's what these 11 yr old boys are) in this country right now, who simply have no concept of conscience or morality. It has been thoroughly bred out of them...

They honestly told the police that the only reason they stopped trying to kill their victims was because their arms had started to hurt. They simply couldn't conceive what they had done wrong. I find that deeply troubling. That this generation of young white boys are meant to be the future of Britain should give all of us pause.

It raises all sorts of questions about the state of white Britain, just what it is they are teaching their children, where the country is headed, and whether or not the ethnic community should be appreciated more for propping up and re-building the excuriated moral carcass of Britain.

Discuss!

rod liddle

Malcolm: see above. Human filth seems reasonably accurate to me.

David Ossitt

rod liddle. Malcolm:

If anyone had listened to today’s Any Questions followed by Any Answers you would have heard the caterwauling and handwringing from those who always pop up after cases like this.

As usual; they claim that the two perpetrators are the real victims, what a load of bollocks.

ROBERT TAGGART

RODDY, ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE ? WELL, YES ! SOME PEOPLE... D. ABBOTT... KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK !!

A.MacAulay

Accolade, with perhaps a prize handed over by a "personality", bottle of Champagne and a Jumbo-Pack TP, for journalistic exposure of our, oh so full of sh*t politicians: Public Enema No.1

Mutha Superior

Rod, Hannah Poole over at Al Gruaniad suggests a biopic of your favourite Crimea heroine.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2010/jan/25/mrs-mandela-south-africa

ginger

Diane Abbott - if you're still reading this,
never mind about the rolling eyes but PLEASE
do stop waving your arms around.

Vin Clark

I've been an Indie reader for many a year and I'de be thrilled to see you as editor.

skydog

Lady Loudmouth:

''Gratifying to learn that Paul Flynn is so cavalier with his signature. And you want a drink with him??''

If Flynn is a cavalier with his money then certainly!