Cows and sirens...

Carl

Strange story and very easy to think that it is easy to read between the lines. My vote is for a bolshy farmer but of course I may be wrong.

one foot in the grave

Apparently Harriet Harman said Lord Ashcroft was driving this fire engine at PM Q's today

EyeSee

Whichever way round it is, it is highly unlikely that it is a clear case of malicious intent. Maybe didn't forsee the possible consequences. But isn't it interesting that there is someone willing to pursue it, to make the arrest? In the House of Commons only police acting on blatant lies by Labour saw an MP arrested, as opposed to clearcut, deliberate fraud. Or the many other breaches of law that the government have perpetrated, thus proving in fact that they consider themselves above the law, while saying the opposite. The saying 'there is never a policeman around when you need one' no longer holds. There or not, his actions may not follow the course you expect, nor for that matter any representation of justice.

Kevinc

Clearly the cows' human rights were breached by the sounding of the siren - so they should have a good case against the fireman at the high court if they can find a decent/corrupt enough lawyer. But then the cows also breached the human rights of the farmer by trampling the poor auld sod to death, so his family should have a good case against the cows. But then fireman's human rights will be breached as a result of the case against him by the cows because he was only doing his job......etc, etc, etc, etc ad nauseum.

dearieme

Compare with this story from this morning's Telegraph.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/7357240/A-nation-in-need-of-anger-management.html

Jez

..... were you once mauled by a herd of farmers when you were little Rod?

I don't know, i'm picking up a vibe here.

Sean

What time was it? My mother always told me that if you heard police sirens or fire engine bells at 6am, 2pm or 10pm it just meant they were going back to base to sign off.

Eli

What about the road accident folks who called in the emergency? Surely there must be a cause of action for them too.

EyeSee

Eli sets me thinking; have we considered whether the road had been designed properly? Had the council erected suitable signage? What research to avoid this happening has the siren manufacturer undertaken? Should we have psychological profiling of all livestock, to better understand their behaviour in certain circumstances? Had the farmer conducted a risk assessment before going out with the cows? Has the diet of the fireman been checked in case he wasn't eating the government directed foods? Was the fireman ilegally working through a break? Is satnav involved? Has the fire brigade involved got a representative proportion of illegal imigrants working for them? You know after all this, the fire brigade will 'learn the lessons' and introduce 'training for using sirens and the needs of cows'. It sounds like an accident. But we are so incompetent in this country now and promote so many stupid people, that the accidents still happen but we make the aftermath worse.

Robert Taggart

Not wishing to be boring ! but... from our own experience methinks the emergency services disturb the peace rather too often. If this forces them or our legislators to curb the use of their 'look at me' tactics oneself would be most relieved.

Barry

In actual fact, the cows were tax evaders from Jersey and, with Ashcroft in mind, panicked when they heard the sirens.

Ian W

If the fireman turned his sirens on to get cows out the way then there could only be one result - a stampede - which would clearly endanger the farmer.

Does this "firefighter" think that cows know the correct procedure for sirens?