Against Manicheanism

THX1138

Andrew "Press TV" Gilligan "lacerates" the BBC for having islamic extremists on Radio 4 while he takes blood money from Press TV the mouthpiece of the Iranian Government the biggest islamic extremists of the lot.. Irony is most certainly dead at The Spectator!

Abu Siyaasah

Quite right. Double standards are not considered 'double' in Auntie's epistemology.

I notice the Beeb haven't posted the transcript yet...

ed gein

The islam/islamism split is a media fiction which allows them to delude themselves.

No more no less.

skydog

''The IFE is many times more viciously bigoted than the BNP, and blood-thirsty to boot''

And you've only just realised this?

''But it is perhaps beyond imagining if Any Questions were to broadcast from the BNP’s headquarters''

The BNP don't maintain an HQ. Possibly because the peace-loving retards pf the ANaL and their ilk would peaceably bomb or burn it to the ground.

NJM

Any Questions:
http://tiny.cc/LMVfx

wrinkled weasel

This is about the moral vacuity at the heart of the BBC which substitutes objectivity and impartiality for "fairness", a plank of political correctness which has as much real meaning as the rest of the nihilistic liberal claptrap the BBC comes out with.

The move to give these extremists a platform is not noble or clever. It is born out of intellectual confusion.

Mrs Mugabe

Not sure Rod. Think how support for the BNP shot up after that ludicrous idiot Griffin was allowed to appear on Question Time. I remember remarking to Robert at the time, the Beeb has well and truly shot itself in the foot on this one. Unfortunately, giving these people airspace has the effect of bestowing them with some sort of legitimacy. As the sainted Margaret so pithily commented "just starve (them) of the oxygen of publicity on which they depend".

Noa Zrk

Rod

An excellent analysis.

For the BBC freedom of speech should means the right of all to express and hear views without fear of threat, intimidation or mediation.

The BBC used to be the benchmark and arbiter of such values, now it has none.

HairyNoddy

Never mind that the mere presence of these cretins in Britain completely justifies the existence of organisations like the BNP.

Maggie

I heard that Any Questions. It was a sort of bloodcurdling display of unmediated ochlocracy. Three of the panel, the chairman and the baying mob lined up against the aimiable Ken Clarke. It was absolutely horrible. Afterwards, I felt like going out and buying a gun in case any of those savages came anywhere near me.

Dixon

Of course Rod you are being diplomatically disingenuous. That is, I am assuming that you are well aware of the fact that the biggest bone of contention in the blogosphere is the persistence of this fantasy that "Islamism" is distinct from "Islam". The only real distinction is that which is analagous to the distinction between people who categorise themselves as "c of E" and people who actually go to church. Or between those who go to church for weddings chritenings and funerals and those who live it 24/7. The "extreme" Muslim is one who most truly embodies the core of Islam. The "moderates" are Friday Muslims who, under the provision of "takfir" are argued by the others as not being Muslim at all.

radgie gadgie.

We need a party that will deal with a BBC which has complete contempt for those who fund it.

Baron

The notion that any public organisation that interprets events could be impartial could only be entertained in a country that favours statism, presided over by the enlightened cabal of the few, rather than the vibrancy of thought by the many. It has worked here because the capacity of the great unwashed to endure it seems limitless. This, of course, is a fallacy. When pushed too far, their endurance can snap, and the consequences that result may not be very pretty.

Murdoch may be missing on a golden opportunity. If he were to buy Channel5 and ‘fox’ it, the advertising revenues would be mouth watering.

Mrs Mugabe @ 7.12:

Not unlike your husband you seem to be unable to figure what causes what. It wasn’t the airspace that gave NG legitimacy. It was the around 1mn of the great unwashed who cast their vote for the idiot that did it. If he didn’t get the votes would the BBC have obliged?

Mrs Mugabe

Baron, I apologise. I see now that perhaps I should have added the word 'unwarranted' before the word 'legitimacy'. Would a polite response to my shameful blunder have been too much to ask - you colonialist pig?

Mr Grumpy

'There is much in moderate Islam which I find repulsive and, uh, extremist – its views about homosexuality, for example, and apostasy.'

Then why, pray, do you call it moderate?

Baron Pippin II

Mrs Mugabe @ 7.02

steady on, Grace, this ain’t the CIF blog, it’s the Spectator, and the blog of the soft spoken and gently indecisive Liddle.

more to the point: in the good old days when pigs colonialist had a say the good burghers of your country didn’t starve. A weird choice in this unfair world of ours, don’t you think? Freedom on an empty stomach, or a belly full with Smith in charge.

still, may I respectfully suggest you stick to what you know best like seizing farms and stuff?

Ramos Bickerdike

THX 1138

Look here, do you think you have this irony thing quite worked out?

St Bruno

Here we go again!
A piece by Rod Liddle descending into rabid rants by people who, basically, just show their love of Islam and the ultimate demise of Britain as we know it.

I have come to the conclusion that Mr Liddle is just an agent provocateur for the There’s Nothing British about the BNP while conveniently forgetting that there is also nothing British about Islam in any of it’s forms.

gareth

Rod doesn't know what Manicheanism is - as this article demonstrates.
The dumbing down of life continues with conflicted socialists blurring the meaning of words.
The split between moderates and extremists doesn't exist Rod if they both follow the Qu'ran literally - which is in fact what all Muslims do.

Tendryakov

I feel I should point out some blatant Islamophobia in this programme. In order to promote that common stereotype of Muslims that they are easily angered, excitable and shout a lot, the BBC repeatedly dubbed canned shouting, whistling and catcalling in the background. I've seen the same tactic used in Question Time programmes broadcast from solid white Middle England, where they try to promote the stereotype that middle-class English people are restrained and reasonable, in which case they dub on subdued quiet applause. Occasionally, they even dub canned silence, to suggest a very thoughtful audience. Something's got to be done about it.

sinister

jesus you lot are paranoid!