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Monday, 19th July 2010

Must admit I’m thoroughly enjoying the government’s fury that decent, white, Christian, blind people keep getting chucked off buses because Muslims object to them. Apparently there is something in the Koran warning that if you brush up against a blind person, or get his saliva on your hand, it is haram – which means no virgins for you, matey. In the list of bad stuff Allah really hates it is equivalent to simultaneously eating a gala pie while rogering Graham Norton and reading a piece about Hamas by Melanie Phillips. (Any of you tried all of that? There always comes a point where you have to put the article down to concentrate on the last few crumbs of the pie).

Or maybe I’ve got it wrong and it’s the guide dogs they object to. There are stories in the Daily Mail today about Muslims shrieking in fury when guide dogs walk past them and various pressure groups insist that they receive lots of complaints. Thing is, how do the blind people KNOW its Muslims shrieking?

Still, I suppose the government is right to insist that guide dogs should be allowed wherever the owners want them to be – and that further, dogs accompanying sighted people should be allowed onto public transport, unless they are untermensch pit bulls called “Moaty”. And the Muslim Council of Britain is right, too, in its sensible and measured advice to what must be a vanishingly small number of fanatical anti-dogist Muslim objectors; don’t worry about it, dogs are ok, if you’re really worried just have a wash. The MCB is depressingly sensible these days.


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Oedipus Rex

July 19th, 2010 11:46am

How on earth does the guide dog get to lick the driver?
And since I'm sure there have been may who have rogered Graham Norton surely the possibility that one of them might deposit their saliva, or gala pie even, on the driver is more likely.

You miss one interesting part of that report - the new LibDem transport minister, Norman Baker, is a crazed loon who wrote a 'conspiracy theory' book on who killed David Kelly that makes Oliver Stone's JFK seem like dry academic history.
He might end up, say, banning all blind passengers for belonging to a covert fifth column with links to Mossad, the CIA and a canine cult on planet 9. Or even banning all muslim drivers for spreading a devious coded message read through subtly shaped beards.

As for the MCB...they have still a lot of catching up to do re. being sensible - but it's a welcome move in the right direction.

William Boyd

July 19th, 2010 11:54am

It's funny about dogs and the Muslim world. They're indeed nowehere to be seen in the oil sheikdoms but they're common enough in Egypt and the Maghreb.

Never tried rogering Graham Norton whoever he is whatever a gala pie is for that matter but reading Melanie on Hamas is reallyhard work I can vouch for OK. She's off again on Gaza today which apparently she reckons the CIA has researched as having a higher GDP than Turkey's. I have posted a majestic rebuttal including a quote on Mel from your witty self Roy and if it doesn't make it there be forewarned I shall cross post it here.

Cheers.

anne allan

July 19th, 2010 12:00pm

'How do blind people know it's Muslims shrieking?'
Er..... language .... the word "Allah'? Tripping on the edge of a burka?

Sir Graphus

July 19th, 2010 12:07pm

I once worked with an American fellow who bought the Daily Mail every day. Here was a chap who knew nothing about the UK, but was gradually learning about it by reading the Daily Mail. What stories he must have told when he got back to Houston; “did you know that in the UK ...”

toby gnome forward

July 19th, 2010 12:27pm

shome mishtake, shurely?

Tiberius

July 19th, 2010 1:01pm

I recommend trying to walk your dog past a burqua.

You'll fail because she will take a wide berth. Her children, however, will want to pet your dog.

I couldn't possibly say whether mom or kids are the more enlightened.

Oedipus Rex

July 19th, 2010 1:05pm

..."simultaneously eating a gala pie while rogering Graham Norton and reading a piece about Hamas by Melanie Phillips"...

I'd rather go blind, Rod

Noa

July 19th, 2010 1:11pm

If you were a bus driver in Sheffield wold you want a slavering, crazed, lascivious David Blunkett waving his under age pass at you?

Would you not sieze the first excuse that came to mind, a lack of rabbits, a ban on inter-species sex and relationships, wearing a burqa, to kick him off?

The dog excuse was heaven sent. Word of it's efficatiousness has obviously been passed around by the 'real MCB', or Municipal Collective of Busmen to assist in the banning of such trouble makers elsewhere.

Now they've been told to stop by HMG drivers will have to find as new mehod of keeing dog threatening loons off their buses. Tazers maybe, or a bucket of Kentucky Fried chicken wielded by a blond incomprehensible geordie?

biggestaspidistra

July 19th, 2010 1:25pm

it is empowering for the muslim busdriver.

allan russell

July 19th, 2010 2:08pm

As a guide dog owner i do understand what some owners go through. the Sheriah Council issued a fatwa to muslims in the UK instructing them that guide dogs were working animals, which their religion allows contact with, and not to refuse access to them. If it's an issue then don't get a job in the service industry, note the word "service" in that comment.

Harry Calder

July 19th, 2010 4:55pm

Sorry Rod, but I’m tempted to be on the Muslims’ side on this one. Can’t stand dogs myself. Was on the train recently, and someone came on with an absolutely huge mastiff, It wasn’t on a lead, and the owner allowed it to go around sniffing all the passengers. When this veritable Hound of the Baskervilles came over to sniff me, I was pretty near crapping myself, I can tell you. If it means turning orthodox Muslim to keep these menaces off our public transport, I’m frankly tempted to convert. (I’d go easy on guide dogs, mind you.)

Carl

July 19th, 2010 5:07pm

Majestic post Mr Boyd. Sadly my poor effort about MP being outraged that Palestinians have hopes and aspirations was not published.

Augustus

July 19th, 2010 5:22pm

Islam has a morality standard for Muslims, and another standard for unbelievers, which is always to the advantage of Muslims. And in a Muslim country this is stimulant for unbelievers to convert. And if other religions try to impose and preach their ideas, Muslims are duty-bound to defend their faith with agression. An example of this double morality standard is when Islam
is mocked or shown in a bad light in some way, even if only in caricature form. Muslims will use violent means to attack such acts, but Muslims are perfectly happy to deprecate Jews and Christians in Muslim journals and on TV, and to attack a perceived enemy state. Saudi Arabia finances the building of mosques all over the Western world, but under their own Sharia law the building of non-Islamic religious structures is not allowed. Muslims
apparently don't see the irony in these double morality standards. That's because this double standard is the most important part of the traditional growth of Islam itself, and the repression of the Judeo/
Christian religions in competition with it.

Baron

July 19th, 2010 7:53pm

jealousy, young Liddle, even if wrapped up in wit, doesn’t suit you.

William Boyd @ 11.05.

not for me to defend Melanie, but were it not for her the only take on Gaza would be that pumped out by the ‘objective’ BBC and the biased MSM – screaming kids, preferably carried to a hospital, and wailing women cursing the Israelis against the background of bombed out houses. When you have a minute have a peep at www.rootsclub.ps. Then we talk.

Augustus @ 5.22:

well said, my blogging friend

rod liddle

July 19th, 2010 9:47pm

Baron, I'm not young. I think you should retire somewhere quietly with your Mel posterbook and enjoy yourself. It wasn't a dig at her, obviously.

Tiberius

July 19th, 2010 10:57pm

You are young, Rod, because you're very close to my age.

Don Birnham

July 20th, 2010 5:15am

In the list of bad stuff Allah really hates it is equivalent to simultaneously eating a gala pie while rogering Graham Norton and reading a piece about Hamas by Melanie Phillips.

Do they allow this sort of behaviour on a bus? Wouldn't it block the stairs?

steve mann

July 20th, 2010 11:16am

Are we not getting a bit tired of all this-
Muslim cashier at take out refuses to handle alcohol- yet "The corner shop" owned by many Muslims openly sells the stuff.
Muslim chef in a Police canteen will not handle Bacon yet handles other non Halal meat.
and so on-
And now this "Blind dog" fiasco.
I appreciate tolerance for minorities-
How about tolerance by the minorities for the majority.!

Verity

July 21st, 2010 6:25pm

The point that everyone has missed is, it doesn't matter what the muslim bus driver wants or thinks. He's just an employee who has to enforce the policy the owners and managers have devised.

As it is unthinkable that the notion of banning guide dogs would even cross their minds, I think we can say that this aggressive muslim driver needs a reprimand and an official warning on his record. Two strikes and he's out.

Linda Smith

July 21st, 2010 9:00pm

Rod said "I'm not young." He looks pretty young in the pic at the top of this column, Has Rod got another picture in his attic?

Hadrian

July 21st, 2010 9:45pm

I see my contribution to this thread has bitten the dust so I'll try again jist in case the problem was technical and not objection to the sentiment, however astringent.
I said that, given the largely ignored and unreported plight of Christians in countires dominated by Islam, it seemed this form of creeping islamification on our very doorstops and bus platforms demanded more than glib facetiousness in response. We keep being assured the demographics will ensure islamic ascendancy is impossible. With the immigration record of recent governments and their patent reluctance to protect our borders one fears that is very cold comfort. No guarantee of future waves of islamic migrants. And an oddly revealing way of looking at islam- it's safe because it's a minority!!
As for Graham Norton, fom what I've heard he is actually quite a chaste individual, despite his ribaldry.

Rupert Fotherington-Smythe

July 22nd, 2010 12:33pm

..."simultaneously eating a gala pie while rogering Graham Norton and reading a piece about Hamas by Melanie Phillips"...

I'd rather go blind, Rod

Oedipus Rex: If you do that, you will go blind.

MR

July 22nd, 2010 3:24pm

Well Harry, your comment just proves how little you know about dogs ! I agree that the owner should have had his dog on a leed, but you can only blame the owner for and that not the dog ! In most cases the owner is responsible for his dogs behaviour. And I think, you probably should be more frightened when a person comes towards you, because you never know what they have in mind! I myself have a very friendly Golden Retriever and I must say, I often prefer him to humans that I get to know. I hope you will never need rescuing Harry, because if you do, a rescue dog would probably be good enough to risk his life and come and rescue you !
Dogs deserve a little bit more respect and how the dog smells, looks and behaves is totally up to his owner ! Muslims who are living in Western countries should not enforce their laws, if we go and live in their countries, we also have to adapt and so it should be!

Eddie

July 22nd, 2010 5:11pm

Couldn't they just put guide dogs on buses in little 'doggy-burkas'? Or...Durkas?

Surely not even the most devout and conservative Muslims could be offended if they couldn't actually SEE the dog?

In fact, they'd be absolutely equal with the blind owner of the guidedog!

Horrah! True equality dawns at last!!!

Verity

July 23rd, 2010 8:48pm

Eddie - I think you miss the point. It doesn't matter whether muslims are offended by our ways or not. Presumably they know the way to the airport.

That driver should be sacked. Drivers do not formulate company policy.

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