The stupidity of Yasmin Alibhai-Brown

Insular Japanese

Yes, she is indeed very stupid. And so are the Old Bill for arresting Mr. (Old) Compton. Is he now headed to Queer Street?

Truss Wrodbrochen

Compton's mistake was to make his remarks online. He should have stood outside YAB's house with a placard calling for her to be beheaded and going to hell. On current form Plod wouldn't have raised a finger.

Archibald

I agree totally.

It was an utterly dreadful joke, but what is utterly clear is that it was a joke. The fact that he was actually arrested is, frankly, horrifying. When taken with the ruling on the #TwitterJokeTrial, it is very concerning indeed.

If she chooses to press charges, it will be interesting to see how 'the left' reacts, as many seem disgusted the silly chap was arrested, and are already rightly up in arms about #TwitterJokeTrial.

However, some were circulating the story in what I think is a horrifyingly idiotic way when it first broke, apparently motivated by the fact the idiot who tweeted was a Tory.

On twitter, journalist Johann Hari, retweeted by the likes of Sue Perkins, was taking up the role of 'The Boy Who Cried Wolf' just in time for panto season, saying this:
"Tory Councillor (Gareth Compton) calls for stoning of Muslim woman"
Johann also aided people being able to complain:
"You can complain about the Tory councillor calling for my female Muslim friend to be stoned to death here"
However, he clearly is a bit of a hero when it comes to fighting wrongs, so we shouldn't be too harsh:
"Yasmin and I have both had loads of death threats for standing up to Islamists"
He doesn't explain if any of these people were arrested or if they complained about these threats, he was too busy over-reacting to his own over-reacting stance at this stage, reaching a delicious frenzy of self-righteousness.

Personally, I think he should be ashamed of himself for the words he chose to represent the story. He clearly knew exactly what he was doing, but yet happily attempted to stir up a huge over-reaction from those who follow him on twitter. Many would have read the line and not the attached article, and as we know context is everything. I think he abused the power of his position with such nonsense.

If we took this approach to free speech, as this and the #TwitterJokeTrial verdict seem to be suggesting, then Cameron's time would be better spent lecturing students in the UK about the benefits of democracy, rather than farting about in China.

What disturbed me most was when YA-B was on radio after giving her reaction to events, she claimed her teenage daughter had gone to bed fearing her mum would be stoned after receiving notification from friends on the matter, and YA-B didn't know what was bothering her until the next morning. This seemed to be a motivating factor in her anger.

While you can understand the anger of a mother, I was a teenager once, and I would suggest that pursuing a case because her daughter is a bit suggestible isn’t really the best start point, surely.

But there should simply be no case to answer anyway, likewise with #TwitterJokeTrial.
I agree totally.

It was an utterly dreadful joke, but what is utterly clear is that it was a joke. The fact that he was actually arrested is, frankly, horrifying. When taken with the ruling on the #TwitterJokeTrial, it is very concerning indeed.

If she chooses to press charges, it will be interesting to see how 'the left' reacts, as many seem disgusted the silly chap was arrested, and are already rightly up in arms about #TwitterJokeTrial.

However, some were circulating the story in what I think is a horrifyingly idiotic way when it first broke, apparently motivated by the fact the idiot who tweeted was a Tory.

On twitter, journalist Johann Hari, retweeted by the likes of Sue Perkins, was taking up the role of 'The Boy Who Cried Wolf' just in time for panto season, saying this:
"Tory Councillor (Gareth Compton) calls for stoning of Muslim woman"
Johann also aided people being able to complain:
"You can complain about the Tory councillor calling for my female Muslim friend to be stoned to death here"
However, he clearly is a bit of a hero when it comes to fighting wrongs, so we shouldn't be too harsh:
"Yasmin and I have both had loads of death threats for standing up to Islamists"
He doesn't explain if any of these people were arrested or if they complained about these threats, he was too busy over-reacting to his own over-reacting stance at this stage, reaching a delicious frenzy of self-righteousness.

Personally, I think he should be ashamed of himself for the words he chose to represent the story. He clearly knew exactly what he was doing, but yet happily attempted to stir up a huge over-reaction from those who follow him on twitter. Many would have read the line and not the attached article, and as we know context is everything. I think he abused the power of his position with such nonsense.

If we took this approach to free speech, as this and the #TwitterJokeTrial verdict seem to be suggesting, then Cameron's time would be better spent lecturing students in the UK about the benefits of democracy, rather than farting about in China.

What disturbed me most was when YA-B was on radio after giving her reaction to events, she claimed her teenage daughter had gone to bed fearing her mum would be stoned after receiving notification from friends on the matter, and YA-B didn't know what was bothering her until the next morning. This seemed to be a motivating factor in her anger.

While you can understand the anger of a mother, I was a teenager once, and I would suggest that pursuing a case because her daughter is a bit suggestible isn’t really the best start point, surely.

But there should simply be no case to answer anyway, likewise with #TwitterJokeTrial.

John Steadman

Yes, "incredible". But it is happening, and happening more often. And any of us with least regard for freedom of expression should be terrified by all this. We expect the sixth-form socialists and their ilke to try it on now and then, but that the Law should take a blind bit of notice should bring home to all of us that something quite sinister is afoot and there's hardly a politician or public figure of credible stature got the guts to start asking loud, persistent and feather-ruffling questions.

Andrew

The police clearly have too many officers if they can spare time on trivia like this. Time they were cut back to the level where they only concentrated on serious crime.

Andrew

If someone sent a Twitter message saying they wished I was dead, would that be a crime, or does this only apply to journalists? And does it make a difference I wonder, how many followers you have? Clearly the law around Twitter has a lot of unanswered questions.

Naomi Muse

It is amazing indeed.

I find her totally tedious and turn off the 2330 newspaper review on Sky if she's on it making her inane comments.

The comment made about her was about on her level and therein lies the error. She will dine out on this furore for years.

The best thing to do is not to commission her to write or appear.

Archibald

My comment seems to be duplicated for some reason, should anyone wish to fix it.
If they don't, I'm tempted to stone Rod to death, although I've pulled my shoulder a bit so he'd probably be able to get away quite easily.

WetherspoonThree

I agree with everything that has been written here so far. What a dreadful woman.

dearieme

I propose that every policeman above the rank of inspector be sacked immediately. And half of those below that rank, selectively.

Everybody must get stoned...

"posted a message on Twitter to the effect that maybe YA-B should be stoned to death..."

He shuld'a just left the last two words off... No worries man, pass the spliff wuld'ya...huuum, haaaaaa...

Fergus Pickering

I think the joke was OK. Many a person must have found the same thought flitting through his or her head.

Woodbine "I've got an Alibi" Willy

Rod -
This post is an unacceptable incitement to hate crime.
You've mentioned the dreaded YAB, and now I have no choice but to hate her.
I expect a knock on the door from the joke-plods any time now.
Thanks

Edward McLaughlin

How do you mean Compton was only joking?

Thanks for spoiling the weekend Rod. I was getting into that.

merlinthepig

I wholly agree, Rod.

By the way, I heard your attempt to make commom sense and reason heard over the blusterings of libtard morons on Radio 5 last night. I wonder why you bothered, frankly. It was exasperating.

Edward McLaughlin

Reports that Yasmin Brown's middle name was stolen at about 9.15 last night.

I was having an afterclass drink with my fellow Esperanto students. Didn't cop though.

How about you?

Sue

Why the hell does she continue to bite the hand that gave her asylum, time and time again, like a prissy school prefect with woolly arguments and a misplaced sense of self importance.

Keeping quiet

Alibhai Brown by name...

Ian Walker

Heard you on the radio, Rod, and I nearly crashed the car through screaming at the idiot professor you were up against.

His brilliant professorial logic seemed to be that YA-B's comments were OK, because of the context they were in, and yet Mr Compton's comments were no OK, because he couldn't be certain that they would be considered in context.

Of course, it's all about the powers that be trying to get some control of the new media, which is why they are twisting this old law, which is conveniently a strict liability offence (which is why "common sense" can't be applied) to this stupid new purpose.

Tom

This is how thought and 'hate' crimes work.

They're drafted in seemingly well-meaning language but are then abused in incidents like this to twist and distort meaning.

The result is that people become scared to say anything at all in response to people like Yasmin 'play the victim' Brown.

Which, I think it's clear to all, is what she wants.

Cases like this show why New Labour's thought crime laws must be repealed.

Lucashyde

I have always detested this jumped creature. Years ago she puffed herself up to say, on Question Time I think, that "No, she was not British" nor did she want to be. Well, why the hell are you here then?
I then read an article she wrote describing herself as a Muslim intellectual. Maybe I am very mistaken but should one be able to describe oneself as an intellectual, or should that be left up to others to describe you as such?

Boxer

Compton made an offensive remark, plain and simple. The question is whether this might have spurred some deranged person to commit a violent act against YAB. This is a line between freedom of speech and personal security that is delicate but cannot be ignored. I think the arrest of Compton may be overboard, but the condemnation of lack of civility goes without saying. You can disagree with YAB, you can hate her. But the more people accept threatening remarks as OK for our disagreements, even under the guise of humor, then we have something much more troubling. Let's not go in that dark direction.

Hannah

Oh God, she's such an idiot. And also a terrible writer. Why is she even famous and asked to come on radio?

Will the Independent please sack her? (by sack, I mean fire her... oh no, not fire her in that way, I mean dismiss her from her job). Stupidity has no limits.

Peter crawford

There is nothing in British law that says you can't put ants in somebody elses pants. Nothing in Sharia law either. So why are the monumentally useless Police arresting a man for putting ants in the pants of YAB ? Unless it's on animal cruelty grounds. Fair enough.

Frank P

The most horrifying element of the whole story is that there is apparently nobody in the Met. who has the nous and balls to tell her to fuck off. Or better still - nick her for wasting police time.

Scott Burgess (of the erstwhile Daily Ablution) who regularly cleaned her clock, in conjunction with Joan Hari's; where art thou?

Frank P

Nicholas (7.43Pm)

As ever - magnificent! Sorry,I hadn't seen your post when I yelped earlier. If I had, I wouldn't have bothered. Your comment is comprehensively crushing. Hope the subject sees it. How now Brown cow?

Elementary My Dear Ahmed

Rod, it's impossible to exaggerate the Political Correctness of the West Midlands Police here in Birmingham and the resulting tolerant attitude they show to much real crime and anti-social behaviour. Ordinary policemen and women still talk about the Police Rugby Club dinner of several years ago. I don't drink nor have any interest in rugby football, but I'm pleased that this culture exists. At this official dinner, an officer said something about lesbians playing in the policewomen's rugby team- this was supposed to be an enjoyable dinner for rugby playing police officers. You won't be surprised to learn that an ambitious promotion chasing officer, on the following Monday, wanted the policeman who made this "lesbian" remark charged with whatever the crime is for saying this. My informants tell me that the cost of investigating this official complaint was immense, and that morale amongst the police continues to accelerate downwards. As ever, given the choice of patroling the area of Birmingham where I live, or going to arrest a tweeting councillor, you can always rely on the West Midland Police Chief Constable to make the politically correct choice. Grrrrr......

Nicholas

Boxer, thanks for coming in to do a live demonstration of the sort of idiots responsible for our current bad laws, faux men and risk-aversion hysteria. If you really believe that twaddle I suggest you write a book about the dangers of crossing the street or those naughty butterflies who flap their wings in Thailand and cause houses to collapse in Rotterdam.

DougS

Anybody know her attitude to stoning women? She seems, by her ridiculous statement, to be avoiding expressing an opinion.

And what does she mean by "Western politicians" - not every politician was in favour of the wars that have led to the deaths of innocent civilians. So are these politicians 'allowed' to have a view?

As Rod states, her pathetic 'argument' isn't even worthy of a rebuttal.

She is as far removed from 'intellectual' as it's possible to get!

JRR Catstrangler

And don't forget that the spineless Tories actually suspended him!
When, oh when, is Geert Wilders going to set up his British branch of the Freedom Party?
As they might have said in that galaxy long ago and far away - "Help us Obi-Wan Wilders - you're our only hope!"

Edwin Greenwood

Boxer at 00:25 today:

"The question is whether this might have spurred some deranged person to commit a violent act against YAB. This is a line between freedom of speech and personal security that is delicate but cannot be ignored."

Nonsense. You can't order society on the basis of fear of the remotely possible behaviour of the deranged.

I intend to travel into London later today. But then again, there might just possibly be a homicidal maniac with a samurai sword lurking between here and the railway station, waiting to attack passers-by at random. Should I then cancel my journey and resolve to spend the remainder of my life barricaded in my home, resupplied from time to time by the brave footsoldiers of Ocado?

Barbara

Ah, yes, Alibhai-Brown: that champion of the underdog who boasts about her son going to "one of the best public schools in London". Several years ago I heard her chortling proudly in an interview that he "now sounds like one of the roooooling classes".
Ruling classes are clearly OK, as long as they consist of her and her own family.
Is she by any chance a friend of Diane Abbott?

WetherspoonThree

I should like to say something in the defence of the police in this matter...but I have to admit its difficult.
However, they do not make the laws. They do, however, have a duty to enforce them, even when they might suspect that they are 'foolish' laws which can be exploited by 'so-called victims' for their own political ends. It might be better if the police could exercise discretion or a bit of common sense but I doubt they are encouraged to do so. I assume the Crown Prosecution Service will have to decide what action will be taken.
What saddens me about this ridiculous episode is that it happen on the same day that two men were convicted of a so-called honour killing of 21 year old women who sought help from the police. The court was told that the victim's well founded fears for her life, including details of her attackers which were sent to the police; failed to save her.

You could weep.

Don Birnham

Yasmin Alibhai-Brown?

Stone me!

JJR Catstrangler,

I'd actually join the PVV!

Frank P

Wetherspoon Three

"However, they do not make the laws. They do, however, have a duty to enforce them, even when they might suspect that they are 'foolish' laws which can be exploited by 'so-called victims' for their own political ends."

If you wish to defend the police, you have chosen a piss poor example with which to do so.

Indeed, they have a duty not to be deflected by self-serving and malicious complaints that have no basis in fact, even within the ludicrous legislation passed by the previous Marxist mob. Moreover, the top level of police management have input into such legislation while it is being framed and they should have insisted that such law was unjust and unworkable in any free society. If the politicians persist, then even in these days of toadying to the politicians, police still have discretion and YAB should have been gently told that there was no evidence that a criminal offence had been committed and that should have been the end of the matter. It is the waste of public resources in this case that is the crime. Unfortunately the type of police officers capable of exercising such discretion now seems to now been bred out of the system.

What you are describing in that paragraph is a police state, controlled by the ilk of the Yasmins of this world. She shouts 'shit' and they jump on the shovel. Utterly disgraceful pandering to 'political correctness'.

Ray

As with that guy being prosecuting for tweeting about security at Robin Hood Airport, perhaps we should all tweet for YA-B to be stoned. Not because we want to see the old leftie subsumed in a mountain of half-housebricks, but because it would deluge the plods in a tsunami of people in need of a visit from their hate crimes unit.

Nicholas

Wetherspoon Three, yes, indeed. But the police used to have very real discretion, the constable's discretion, that even a Chief Constable could not overrule. It is unclear just when and how this was abandoned to top down directives in response to complaints . Also the act of formal arrest was an ultimate sanction that usually followed a preliminary investigation, made up to the point where the constable could decide that a crime had probably been committed and that a particular person or persons was reasonably suspected of being responsible. Nowadays it appears to be a default, knee-jerk preliminary to any police investigation into even the most trivial of matters, as was the case here. Again I am unclear as to when and how this change came about.

These two changes are both highly significant to policing and to the public's relationship with the police. I suspect New Labour and their police apparatchiks to have been behind these changes but I am not sure. I cannot recall any parliamentary debate about it. It may be that the police custom and practice has changed incrementally in general parallel to their increasing lack of accountability or that there are training imperatives linked to health'n'safety or litigation nonsense. Or indeed the ubiquitous power-grabbing of the CPS may be responsible. Perhaps even more likely the police fear the accusation of "doing nothing" in response to high-profile complaints from professional political troublemakers and rabble rousers like YAB (q.v. Damien Green)

Whatever the reason(s), it/they deserve some serious scrutiny and parliamentary questions. A useful Police Federation document 'The Office of Constable' (2008) that explores some of these aspects in the face of increasing politicisation and external control may be found here:-

http://www.polfed.org/OC_Final.pdf

The officer(s) who decided to arrest Compton in response to YAB's complaint ought to be required to justify their action but in reality they probably just ordered other subordinate constables to effect the arrest, perhaps on a risk-averse perception that any failure to act would be further grist to this loudmouth's mill. Those are key issues that deserve probing in order to understand just who is calling the shots in policing us and why. Hopefully Rod may follow up on this topic with his usual clarity of purpose.

Eddie

Yes, Wetherspoon three - the police have to use discretion. If they didn't there'd be more people in prison than out!

The problem is that the agenda here is dictated by the PC race relations and diversity/equality industry. So, a white man makes a joke on twitter referencing an Asian woman, so he gets arrested. Would it really have happened the other way round? YAB is SO rude about the white working class (who she clearly sees as untermenschen) in her column! Is that OK then?

Just remember: NO-ONE has EVER been evenso much as arrested, let alone charged, for incitement to hatred or violence or murder after calling for the violent death of Salman Rushdie! Despite masses of evidence.

If this MP gets charged and punished for this, I'd happily donate to his appeal fund and march against YAB and other PC maniacs who want to rob us of freedom of speech and expression.

Archibald

I started to watch Casualty on the Beeb last night. Ten minutes in to yet another pile of poorly constructed, badly acted, mind-bendingly predictable nonsense, I openly wished I was dead. And I wasn't even joking. Perhaps I should go and hand myself in?

In2minds

The comments above are split between the stupidity of Yasmin Alibhai-Brown and the stupidity of the West Midlands Police. Both YAB and the WMP would cite their 'duty' as the reason to do things this way. Both are wrong, but concentrate on the WMP. It was the WMP who tried to prosecute Channel 4 for 'inciting racial hatred'.

Channel 4 showed the rabble rousing imams of the Birmingham Green Lane Mosque railing against kuffaars, homosexuals, jews and women and spitting hatred of almost everything yet the WMP decided to back the imams. Channel 4 sued the WMP, and was awarded £100,000 which they gave to charity.

At the time the Assistant Chief Constable (Security and Cohesion) was Anil Patani. He was, I think, the chief investigator for the Bezhti riots when Sikh extremists trashed a theatre. There is also the postal vote rigging case which Richard Mawrey QC said: 'would disgrace a banana republic.'Anil Patani was in charge of conviction policy at this time.

Also several women’s groups, particularly in the Midlands and northern England, say they are often reluctant to go to the police with women who have ran away to escape violence because they cannot trust Asian police officers. Zalikha Ahmed, director of the Apna Haq refuge, says: “We have to be careful with them especially the Asian ones. We don’t visit the station when certain Asian officers are on because some of them are perpetrators, and one of them on record said that he would not arrest someone who used force on his wife. Some of them would just expose us for what we do.” Another worker in a women’s group in the North, who requested anonymity for safety reasons, said: “We had instances when a [Asian] chief inspector offered his help to a family by tracking a girl down – we were appalled."

Cabbie

@Boxer.Are you a little punch drunk? YA-B needs these hits. Producers and editors love a bogey(wo)man. Isn't that right Rod? Invitations to studios and pieces commisioned; now not just by the Indie!

Initially and charitably I thought of Edward G in Little Caesar and the immortal (para)phrase...she's "gettin so she can give it, but she can't take it no more". But bollocks. This is a Labour cyberthrust cos he's a Tory Cllr.

I was going to post before lunch but reading this gave me heartburn. So now satiated, I'd like to posit the following:

1 It was nothing more than a quip by Compton;obviously.
2 It was picked up by the Labour werewolves who engineered viral complaints. Fair enough. That's politics nowadays.
3 We see a disproportionate response.

Disproportionate from the police and very worryingly from the Conservative Party ( who apparently have suspended him indefinitely whilst they investigate what has transpired).

I am worried about the Conservative Party and their lack of collective 'back bone'.

The all-pervasive PC culture and Left-politicisation of the police has created a public sector department of social workers in uniform.

For YA-B to play the race card ( apparently she states that his 'stoning' quip was racially motivated) is reprehensible. His allusion to stoning can only have been a reference to the barbaric muslim sharia proscription adopted and supported by some bearded misogynists. This allusion cannot be racist because any and a variety of races adopt this man-made religion for themselves. It is not specific to a UK passport-carrying subject originally from Uganda.

With regard to the Communications Act 2003 and specifically section 127, I would bet the farm that there is no reasonable prospect of prosecution relating to this. As a blogger Rod Liddle, you will be aware of this as well as the case law DPP v Collins. At every stage and especially in relation to the Law Lords Appeal Court ruling in relation to the definition of 'gross offence', it is clear that this will go nowhere.

The legislation at first sight appears to be poorly drafted, (Our MPs are there to scrutinise not just to pig themselves in the collective trough) but like all legislation, it matures as a result of a combination of SIs and case law.

Everyone concerned with our freedom to express ourselves freely and responsibly should read in detail the Law Lords Judgement in this test case as well as to pay close attention to the legislation passed, on our behalf, by our MPs.

Perhaps everyone concerned about our freedom to share information and opinions freely and responsibly should consider adopting a digital form of direct action? I'm Spartacus? I'm...? Do let me know fellow free thinkers?

I'd stop short, myself, of throwing fire extinguishers off a building but would support:

a) Placing YA-B in a public stocks and allowing three old colonels in blazers to to tickle her feet with rolled-up copies of the Spectator until she expires.

David Ossitt

I urge you all to go to her web site and read.

It is full of anti western comment of the U.S.A. in particular.

Also, look on Wikipedia, it will answer a few questions.

paulg

What was he referring to narcotics or bricks? Lets be honest in this day and age in our culture most people would assume narcotics, it’s open to interpretation.
Moreover, if it’s incitement that he has been charged with it’s a ridiculous way to commit homicide.
A 21 Century westerner would see stoning as barbaric and medieval, and thus ridiculous so clearly the comments were uttered in irony, especially in the light of M/s A/B comments previously in the day.
If I was him I would opt for a jury trial and see if 12 people think he is being serious or ironic.

paul

M/s JAB daugher rushed in fearing her mother would be stoned? we can only surmise that this was a regular occurance in JAB's household.For the daughter to think this way

Jimmoque

Er, one thing I do agree with, though, is that wars to improve Afghani behaviour are likely to be a waste of money and lives. They can all stone each other - as long as they do it over there.

Mr Sponge

She is soooooo out of date.

Playing the race card - how old is that ?

This woman married a white guy to blag a British passport.

She is the offspring of wealthy pakistanis who paid for her to go to a good university. An awful snob and swivel eyed Leftie - just like the rest of the chattering classes.

I don't know about stoning but I am sure she should be expelled as an undesirable - back to where she belongs.

Perhaps someone with good access to the media archives could go back over some of her anti-white/British comments and get her arrested.

Nick tucker Brown FRICS

Rod, I see that you are speaking out for the demolition of churches, what are your veiws? My veiw is that if they are not fit for the purpose of serving their community 7 days a week then they need to be found other uses outside the Church and looked after by the taxman if they are just being kept for their arcitectual and nostalgic value. role

uk Fred

All that this proves is that YA_B is a perfectly normal leftie with absolutely no sense of humour whatsoever. Had she had a sense of humour she could have made mincemeat out of Gareth Compton. As it is, she comes across as a self-righteous, bozo with an ego the size of a solar system and as much common sense as Stephen Byers late and (not) lamented SpAd Jo Moore.

Fish in a barrel Rod. Fish in a barrel. Surprised you didn't barf at the stink coming from the barrel, though.

Anne Wotana Kaye 1

Rod,
Why have my postings been removed? Are the stone throwers collecting by your office door preparing to stone the opposition?

Fergus Pickering

Yes, why have Anne's postings been removed? By you? And why?

Fergus Pickering

Yes, why have Anne's postings been removed? By you? And why?

DeeJay

I am not so sure that boxing in its televised form any longer has the same attraction. But a no holds TV debate, over 15 rounds, between the veteran journalist, the delightful Yasmin Alibhai-Brown and your own redoubtable 'pugilist', Melanie Phillips would surely make great late-night entertainment. Harry Hill could be the MC.

Avon Calling

Intellectual behemoth Alibhai-Brown's

Touchiness's Renowned in Country and Towns

When faced with perceived Adversity

Takes refuge in Vibrant Diversity

robert taggart

'I am Gareth Compton' !

Dave Deedozy

This is the woman who sat on the Matthew Wright panel and did nothing when Wright and that idiot Charlie baker mocked the death of a young man in Scotland. Would she have sat there dumb if the young man had been black and Wright had mimicked a Ugandan accent?

Jabez

To refer to this intelligent person as stupid, is the apex of stupidity Mr.Liddle. I have just read the article about the politician Harry Battenberg and his PR job in the Caribbean for Granny and the rest of the profligate royals. You should read it Mr. Liddle and realise that not only you but the rest of the staff at your right wing rag are not only sycophantic prejudiced royalist but naturally ignorant, stupid and dumb.