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The BBC - Americans are liars

Tuesday, 11th September 2007

I'm listening to Victoria Derbyshire on FiveLive as I write. The question of the day: "Do you believe the Americans? Are things improving in Iraq?"

The programme has been on for twenty three minutes so far, and there's not been a single voice allowed on air to suggest that the facts presented yesterday by General Petraeus are not simply made up. That's right: the BBC has so far devoted an entire programme to giving people the opportunity to phone in and say that the Americans are lying.

Not one call has been aired suggesting that there might, just might, be some improvement as a result of the surge. 

And that's absolutely not because that's the view that all callers to the programme have taken. I know that for a fact - because I called in to redress the balance. And have I been put on air? Of course not. 

It is thus an editorial decision to air only calls which say nothing is improving and the Americans are lying.

We pay our licence fee for this.

UPDATE: Hugh Sykes. the BBC's Baghdad correspondent, is also saying the same thing - that violence has simply been displaced.

FURTHER UPDATE: 9.29 - a man has been allowed to say it is right to stick it out in Iraq and that we are all safer as a result of American efforts in the war on terror. Greeted with incredulity by Victoria Derbyshire: "Do you think the people in Madrid, in Bali, in London feel safer now". Aha. Terror is the Americans' fault.

ANOTHER UPDATE: This is sheer genius. According to one caller, the Americans want Iraq to be a mess so that when the Democrats win the Presidency, they will be stuck with it and suffer the electoral consequences in 2012, leading to another Republican President.

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Tiberius

September 11th, 2007 10:09am

Stephen, Christopher Booker has been railing against the excesses of officialdom, especially the EU, for over 15 years. His revelations, apart from a few relatively minor successes, have done nothing to change matters for the better. Please don't waste your life getting hot under the collar about the BBC. With the number of established institutions we have (New Labour, the TUC, the EU, and the BBC are the easy ones to list and some might add the police, the judiciary and the UN), all with their compass pointing anywhere but north and buttressing each other from uncomfortable zone of intellectual rigour, we are I feel simply going to have to wait for some huge fundamental event to undo it all.

j0nz

September 11th, 2007 3:52pm

"Iraqis untouched by US surge" is the headline on this BBC article http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6988828.stm

Cleanthes

September 11th, 2007 4:08pm

I'll give you some REAL data to back up your claim here Stephen: http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?sortBy=2&threadID=7246&start=15&tstart=0&edition=1&ttl=20070911160419&#paginator The Have your say page on this is very very very clear that it is working and that it is the right thing to do. The BBC are utterly shameless.

Guy

September 11th, 2007 4:56pm

Victoria Derbyshire: "Do you think the people in Madrid, in Bali, in London feel safer now". It appears that Victoria Derbyshire thinks Americans have the power to anger terrorists over events that have not yet happened. I am, after all, assuming that the Bali she referred to the Bali bomb that took place in 2002, several months before the invasion of Iraq in 2003? Great to see our licence fee being so well spent on such incorrect and biased drivel.

Lee Jakeman

September 11th, 2007 11:29pm

Tiberius: Am I alone in thinking that the "huge fundamental event to undo it all", that you speak of, will be an English nationalist revolution?

Tiberius

September 12th, 2007 9:04am

Lee: I don't think it will be direct action that causes the unravelling, even the non-violent option. It is some unknown unknown bigger than Black Wednesday or 9/11 that I have in mind. I did, of course, omit the NHS from my list, which consumes approaching 100 billion pounds, and cannot give me an appointment on the day I request one. The conversation went something like, " we don't have any appointments left today and we're closed this afternoon, so you'll have to call tomorrow if you want an appointment tomorrow. Either go away and get better or die..." - yes I made that last sentence up. I pay more in tax than any other type of expense, and the NHS consumes more than any other public service of that tax. Yet, as Dr Dalrymple reminds us, only prisoners can see a doctor on the day they wish in Britain today. And Blair said he would fix this - hysterical, eh.

Tiberius

September 14th, 2007 6:02pm

Thought I'd just post the conclusion to my NHS appointment story. I rang in and was told I would be put on the list of calls to be made by the triage nurse within the hour. I told them I was as busy as them and may not be free when the call came back, but "it's the system". I was duly on the phone when she called, and so I called them back when the hour was up. I said I had fortold the event so could I now speak to te triage nurse. "No; she will call you and you only get one more chance. You have to make yourself available to receive her call". She rang; I asked her how things were in the Crimea; of four doctors, one has one free appointment next Thursday. I gratefully accepted it and finally realized why the NHS is the envy of the world. Then I had to ring Powergen and the tax credits office...

Nick Good

September 21st, 2007 12:23am

Cant read the comments properly, there's a darn Mercedes-Benz add in the way, that won't move!

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