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Wednesday, 9th January 2008

Naturally, you've turned to a site written by a man in Finchley, North London, for analysis of the behaviour of voters in New Hampshire.

Instead of offering thoughts which I am not remotely competent to offer, here are some from people who do know what they are talking about.

This seems plausible, this is interesting, and this from my friend Robert George sums it up:

Anyone who thinks they know how the presidential nominating process is going to play out is full of sh**. 

Two months ago, John McCain's political obituary had been written; Rudy Giuliani led the national polls and Mitt Romney was the runaway leader in New Hampshire.Two days ago, Hillary Clinton's political obituary was being written: The dynasty was over, the queen was dead; the question was not whether Hillary should withdraw, but under what circumstances; George W. Bush was asking President Obama if he would consider starting a year early. And then people started voting.

Today, we have winners who, not much more than a year ago, everyone expected to be the frontrunners: John McCain and Hillary Clinton. Will they be the eventual nominees? Who knows?

The rest of his post is also well worth reading:
However, a few things New Hampshire showed:

1) Despite everything, maybe the Clinton name still means something in the Granite State (or maybe the MACHINE is better at stealing elections there, as one partisan Democrat hinted to me tonight).

2) Hillary Clinton is never so dangerous as when she is portrayed as the victim. Her popularity increased post-Monica; she "won" a debate -- and essentially the election -- in 2000 when Rick Lazio pushed a paper in herface and demanded that she "sign it! Sign it!" In that light, Hillary's "emotional moment" on Monday may have touched a chord with undecided women who decided to support her at the last moment.

3) On a related note, there was the Saturday debate: Hillary was asked about the fact that more voters "liked" Obama more than her. She responded, smiling, "That hurts my feelings." The crowd chuckled, Hillary said, "Barack is a likeable guy." But Obama almost sneered, "You're likeable enough, Hillary." It was an unnecessary snide line, delivered at a moment when he could have been gracious (Something like, "Senator, of course, you're likeable, and you have made history as the first First Lady to win office in her own right. Yes, I'd like to make history of my own, but we certainly praise the service you've given this nation.") . Instead, his actual abrupt comment was against character: At a moment when Hillary was being warm/likeable (Obama-like?), while he was being cold and, well, bitchy -- characteristics often associated with Hillary.

4) Finally, it would be dishonest not to mention the elephant in the room -- race. On MSNBC, Washington Post Eugene Robinson and NBC political analyst/polling expert Chuck Todd raised what is often referred to as the "Bradley effect": The Obama internal polls gave him a lead of 14 points (similar to the last CNN poll). Hillary's internal polls gave Obama an eleven point lead. Yet, she won by three points. The "Bradley effect" refers to the 1982 gubernatorial race of African American Los Angeles Mayor Tom Bradley who the polls showed leading by double digits the night before election day: He lost narrowly to white Republican George Deukmajian. In 1989, African American Lt. Gov. Doug Wilder was leading the Virginia gubernatorial race by about ten points; he won by less than one percent. A similar series of events occured in the New York mayoral race that year with Democrat David Dinkins leading Republican Rudy Giuliani in heavily Democratic New York City by double digits .

To be blunt, in contests involving black candidates, there often appears a hidden (or deceptive) vote in polling that works to the disadvantage of the black candidates. It doesn't always occur: Harold Ford's loss in Tennessee U.S. Senate race in 2006 was certainly within the margin of error of pre-election polls. But when all the pre-election polls were wrong (and not just by the margin of error) as they were in New Hampshire, one has to entertain at least the possibility of the "Bradley effect."

I don't know if that occurred Tuesday. But any punditswho say they definitely know what is going on this year are, well...you know.

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John East

January 9th, 2008 12:28pm

It seems clear cut to me. In cases where electors lie about their voting intentions in such large numbers the reason can only be fear or shame concerning their motives. It can only be racism.

Ross

January 9th, 2008 2:40pm

I wonder if part of Obama's problem was that he appeals especially to younger voters who are rather unreliable and perhaps stayed at home when it looked like he was certain to win.

Lee Jakeman

January 9th, 2008 5:45pm

If Hillary had lost, would people now be attributing it to "sexism"?

verity

January 9th, 2008 9:17pm

Obama is a handsome, well-presented, articulate charismatic chap. But he makes a mistake in presenting himself as "black", as this taints him with the definition of "black" which is now long dated. It used to be in the States that, no matter how pale you were, if you had any black blood at all, you were classified as black. America has moved well beyond this. But Obama presents himself as "black", which he is not. This is the most overt dishonesty, so far, but I think more elisions of the truth are going to become apparent.

susannah

January 10th, 2008 6:06am

I think it is about the elephant in the room. Either one is a first. First Black President, First Female President (I nearly put woman but that would be untrue).

Miv Tucker

January 10th, 2008 11:40am

Well, as a READER in Finchley, North london, i naturally want to hear the opinions of a local boy made good. Keep the faith, Steve!

Tariq

January 10th, 2008 3:03pm

The response to Mrs. Clinton's tears is telling. It seems New Hampshire women her age and older were most moved by those tears (and most angered by male commentators' cynical response to them), so they surged for her. My sense is that a generation gap is at work: Hillary appeals to women who, like her, were expected to take a backseat to their husbands and feel they suppressed their own talents in the process, whereas younger women, who have been much freer to make their own way in life, don't respond to her "journey in life / finding my voice" shtick, or to her victimhood. So Hillary must find a way to broaden her appeal to younger women if she wants to win -- and who can doubt that she does?

Roland Hulme

January 14th, 2008 6:04pm

I think people - especially people outside of America - place too much emphasis on race. Obama won in Iowa - the heartland of America (which is implied to be less evolved in the subject of race relations than other states.) There's this rumour repeated so many times, people assume it must be true - that America is a racist nation. I don't believe that. I believe it still has a long way to go - but the average American isn't racist. Besides, the only votes that will matter are the 'swing voters' who are slightly more evolved than the dyed in the wool conservative or liberal. They'll vote on various issues or even 'gut feeling' but I don't think race will play an issue.

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