It seems Rowan Williams is more self-aware than we may have given him credit for, judging by this headline on his Guardian piece:
It's adults, not young people, who are a public menace.Indeed you are, Archbishop.
As for the piece itself...if you though his thoughts on sharia showed how he lives in another world, this one is just as bizarre. Here's what one of the commenters writes:
Yesterday after a hard morning's toil at the allotment I stopped to pass the time of day with a like-minded artisan. We discussed a recent killing in our village of a middle- aged man who was confronted by four young people early on New Year's morning. In the ensuing scuffle the man fell over and banged his head on the kerb. The four young people are out on bail. The widow is frightened to return to her work in a garage because these splendid examples of Britain's youth have made it clear that they will make her life a misery if she as much as shows her face.Nor is this an isolated example.I rarely venture forth after dark because it is quite apparent that gangs of young people seem to be roaming the streets unchecked. I live not in an urban wilderness, but in pleasant seaside hamlet which has a new village green with goalposts and other facilities. There is a football club with adjacent premises where young people can congregate and make as much noise as they like. There is tennis club supported by local business men. A cricket club is there for all to use. We have youth clubs belonging to the four churches in the village. Within two miles radius there are three parks. I could go on, but no doubt you have the picture.
The problem lies not with adult behaviour toward young people but rather with the attitude of our legislators who have nurtured successive generations that believe they can do anything they like without check or hindrance because quite honestly that is what they do day after day.
My fellow allotment holder is an ex-seaman who is used to violence. He carries a hammer with him which he says he will use if confronted. At a guess I would put his age over seventy.
Now that is what we have come down to in my village.
In my opinion Archbishop there is something very seriously wrong for which you and those like you should bear responsiblity.
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skydog1
February 26th, 2008 2:08pm''My fellow allotment holder is an ex-seaman who is used to violence. He carries a hammer with him which he says he will use if confronted. At a guess I would put his age over seventy.'' Better to explain from the dock than the grave mate! o|--)
Scipio
February 26th, 2008 3:46pmThe effeminate A of C needs to be drummed out of office before he does more damage to Protestantism in England since the reign of Bloody Mary.
cityboozer
February 26th, 2008 3:52pmBut isn't Williams making exactly the point that was shouted down from Dave's hug-a-hoodie speech?
Jesse Gross
February 26th, 2008 7:31pmAs a United States of American, my oppinion is that your friend should carry one of the guns that was sent graciously by our citizenry durring the second world war to help people protect themselves from the NAZIs, instead of a hammer. But from what I am beginning to understand about the current situation in Britian, you guys seem to have elected the NAZIs anyhow.
misha
February 26th, 2008 8:31pmIndeed, I was visiting in Warwickshire and Devon this past summer,and there were times that I was far from comfortable among crowds of young people, both on the streets and in the parks at Stratford. My beloved Stratford!I was staying in a country hotel well outside of town, and every morning very polite young men and young women rode by upon their lovely mounts, as I walked the lanes and steets of the tiny village. Never once did one of them fail to nod or speak a smiling greeting. They were well turned-out and well mannered. Ah, the England that was the dream and reality of my youth as I traveled there often with my family. Alas, the reality of the streets of Stratford was a different story. There was a time on the bus to Charlecote that I was so taken aback by the loudness and rudeness of some teenage girls that I could have been in some awful area of an American city of the northern states, instead of being in the heart of England. I resolved to bear the cost of a taxi back to town. But town was little better; it was filled with rude and surly youths-such foul mouths I have hardly heard outside the mean streets of New York! In Devon I was mostly in the country, where to my relief, good manners were still the norm, and very few young people resorted to the vile language that was to be heard from Chipping Campden to Bath, and beyond. I have wathched this slide into uncouth behavior over my many visits to England over the last twenty years, and it saddens me, as it seems to have gotten worse each visit. Mind, I do not say that the situation is any better in America. I miss the old England where one could rely on peace and quiet, good manners, and kindliness almost anywhere one ventured.
Austin Barry
February 26th, 2008 9:20pmWhat an extraordinary chap. How looking at himself in the mirror each morning as he combs the small insects from his beard, he expects people to take him seriously is quite remarkable. One suspects that he should be in secure accommodation.
Nicholas
February 26th, 2008 10:11pmThe comments under the article are fascinating to read and make it apparent what a 10 year journey we have had under New Labour. A completely dysfunctional society most of the causes of which can be attributed to socialist engineering rather than societal evolution. Well done all you lefties, I hope you are proud with what you have achieved. "It can only get better" - yeah, right.
Verity
February 27th, 2008 2:58pmAustin Barry - Wonderful post!
Lee Jakeman
February 28th, 2008 12:55amThe archbishop is living proof that some people immature with age.